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<3marie
June 29th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Ev's: 252 Atk/ 252 Speed/ 4 Hp
Adamant Nature ( +Atk -Spatk)
-Dragon Claw
-Flamethrower
-Earthquake
-Roost

I would love to have dragon dance on him, but it is just such a pain to breed into it, and im not sure which pokemon i would use for breeding it, since he is a male i would need to get a female bagon and then a male pokemon with dragon dance =/


Crobat (M) @ Quick Claw
Trait: Inner Focus
Ev's: 252 Speed/ 252 Spatk / 4 Spdef
Timid Nature ( +Spd, -Atk)
-Confuse Ray
-Toxic
-Mean Look
-Baton Pass

Crobat is just one of my favorite pokemon, but i dont think he is that good, as a baton passer he helps as he can go first with mean look and then get out of there for something that is super effective against the trapped pokemon. Also for the confuse + poison + mean look.


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Ev's: 252 Hp/ 252 Spdef / 4 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
-Curse
-Rest
-Earthquake
-Crunch

nothing special here, just a snorlax wall, curse for boosting defense and rest for healing, earthquake and crunch for good physical attacks.

Gengar (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
Ev's: 252 Atk/ 180 Speed/ 78Spatk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Defence)
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Substitute
-Focus Punch

McIcegar yay


Leafeon (M) @ Scope Lens
Trait: Leaf Guard
Ev's: 252 Atk/ 252 Speed/ 4 Def
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
-Swords Dance
-Leaf Blade
-Synthesis
-Aeriel Ace

a leafsweeper? XD. i used scope lens to boost the chance of crit on leaf blade, which is already powerful with swords dance.


Starmie (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Ev's: Spatk 252/ Speed 252/ Spdef
Modest Nature(+Satk, -Atk)
-Surf
-Psychic
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

Kirioroshi
July 1st, 2008, 12:16 PM
DD Mence is awsome. use a gyarados(with dragon Dance and Hydro Pump just in case you want a specsmence later) to breed with a female salamence.

Rest Talk Snorlax is also another good option that i like using.

Snorlax@Leftovers
Careful/Sassy
244Hp / 30 Def / 236SDef
-Body Slam / Return
-Crunch
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

i like body slam, because i like that change of paralyzing things

im not sure about the gengar thou, but i tend to use a scarf gengar with Hp Ice or Fighting.
fighting for weavile (focus blast isn't that reliable)

you don't have a decent physical wall. i suggest something like bronzong, skarmory, gliscor, forretress who can set up SR, Spikes and etc, over leafeon

You also don't have a rapid spinner. which can be troublesome if the opponent has set up layers of Toxic spikes. i suggest you change that starmie to a bulkymie.

Starmie@leftovers
Timid
172Hp/120 SAtk/ 216Spd
-Thunderbolt
-Surf
-Recover
-Rapid Spin


eh thats all i can say.

Tortured_Soul
July 1st, 2008, 01:42 PM
Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Ev's: 252 Atk/ 252 Speed/ 4 Hp
Adamant Nature ( +Atk -Spatk)
-Dragon Claw
-Flamethrower
-Earthquake
-Roost

I would love to have dragon dance on him, but it is just such a pain to breed into it, and im not sure which pokemon i would use for breeding it, since he is a male i would need to get a female bagon and then a male pokemon with dragon dance =/

I would rather a BulkyMence or CBMence here.

Salamence@Choice (Salamence@Choice) Band
Adamant/Jolly
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Brick Break / Earthquake

or

Salamence@Leftovers/Life (Salamence@Leftovers/Life) Orb
Jolly
220 HP, 12 Atk, 196 Def, 76 Spd

Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Roost


Crobat (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Ev's: 160 HP, 124 Sp. Atk 216 Spd
Timid Nature ( +Spd, -Atk)
-Air Slash
-Hypnosis
-Taunt
-U-Turn

Crobat is just one of my favorite pokemon, but i dont think he is that good, as a baton passer he helps as he can go first with mean look and then get out of there for something that is super effective against the trapped pokemon. Also for the confuse + poison + mean look.

Crobat is best used as a lead, so consider that. It has the fastest Hypnosis in the game aside from Scarf. Taunt screws over Gyarados leads that want to DD (EQ/Waterfall varients) but more importantly stops the likes of Bronzong/Hippowdon from setting up in the beginning. U-Turn lets you switch out with damage and also can allow you to scout an opposing set.


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Ev's: 252 Hp/ 252 Spdef / 4 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
-Curse / Sleep Talk
-Rest
-Earthquake / Crunch
-Body Slam

nothing special here, just a snorlax wall, curse for boosting defense and rest for healing, earthquake and crunch for good physical attacks.

Body Slam for STAB, and consider crunch for the 3rd slot. Rest-Talk is a good choice on Snorlax, but if you prefer Curse, then go for it.

Gengar (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
Ev's: 252 Atk/ 180 Speed/ 78Spatk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Defence)
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Substitute
-Focus Punch

McIcegar yay

McIcegar without the Ice... I seriously don't like these sets. The only Physical move that Gengar should ever run is Explosion. If it suits, go for it, but personally I would go full sp. sweeper.


Leafeon (M) @ Leftovers/Lum Berry/Life Orb/Salac Berry
Trait: Leaf Guard
Ev's: 252 Atk/ 252 Speed/ 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Def)
-Swords Dance
-Leaf Blade
-Substitute
-Aeriel Ace

a leafsweeper? XD. i used scope lens to boost the chance of crit on leaf blade, which is already powerful with swords dance.

Scope Lens is banned. I have lonely yet aren't using any Sp. Attacking moves, so Adamant is prefered here. I'm not to sure on the set, but Aerial Ace seems...lacking. Also, Substitute over Synthesis please. There are so many Hail and Sandstorm teams out there that it is really just a waste of a slot.


Starmie (M) @ Life Orb/Choice Specs
Trait: Natural Cure
Ev's: 252 Sp, Atk, 216 Spd, 40 HP
Modest/Timid Nature(+Satk, -Atk)
-Surf
-Psychic
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt

If you're not using it as a Rapid Spinner, then you want Life Orb or Choice Specs. Thunderbolt covers Gyarados, and anything that Grass Knot would achieve a combination of Thunderbolt and Surf does better.



well there, edits in bold.

~T_S

DeoTheDemolisher
July 1st, 2008, 04:10 PM
Don't get into competive battling if your to lazy to breed something to get a move that could make all the difference in a heated battle.

Anyone who is anybody will see that set coming for crobat and probally switch into a wall to survive a hit from the "super effective pokemon".

Ok well snorlax is ever so predictable.

sub punching gengar is yuck! Try Denstiny bond on gengar that might work far better with sludge bomb for STAB and to take out annoying grass types.

Scope lens is to risky you might find yourself relying on the item to get you passed pokemon and you'll find out more than often it fails you.

Starmie is ok. Looks like your standard starmie to me.

All together your team is predictable and boring. But good nonetheless.
ALL these pokemon are SO common with new trainers making their first good team. I hope you see how boring it is to battle with all OU pokemon. Its just not fun.

Good team keep it up ;)

.
July 1st, 2008, 05:45 PM
Don't get into competive battling if your to lazy to breed something to get a move that could make all the difference in a heated battle.

Anyone who is anybody will see that set coming for crobat and probally switch into a wall to survive a hit from the "super effective pokemon".

Ok well snorlax is ever so predictable.

sub punching gengar is yuck! Try Denstiny bond on gengar that might work far better with sludge bomb for STAB and to take out annoying grass types.

Scope lens is to risky you might find yourself relying on the item to get you passed pokemon and you'll find out more than often it fails you.

Starmie is ok. Looks like your standard starmie to me.

All together your team is predictable and boring. But good nonetheless.
ALL these pokemon are SO common with new trainers making their first good team. I hope you see how boring it is to battle with all OU pokemon. Its just not fun.

Good team keep it up ;)

No one cares if it's predictable and boring. AT ALL. This post has some spam, and some helpful advice.

Focus Punching is a pretty good move on Gengar, from my experiances. But I guess Explosion could go over it. Sludge Bomb is pathetic on Gengar, it doesn't need two STABs in both Sbomb and Sball.

supersmashbro93
July 1st, 2008, 07:58 PM
breed a female bagon with a male gyrados that knows dragon dance he learns it naturally