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YOOM-TAH
June 30th, 2008, 11:07 AM
I'd like to see a 5th generation, but I think they should release G/S remakes first.

I would like to see many more generations to come, but, eventually, people may not be able to catch all 721400051 of them.

This post in the 5th Gen Poll topic made me think of this.

Obviously Pokemon is going to want to continue for quite some time, as long as people are interested and buy the games. If they simply stop adding new pokemon at some point, at that point things will start to get boring and the games will start to seem like the same thing. Now, of course Nintendo can and will do other things to make the games new and exciting and different, and I look forward to that, but here's where my idea comes in.

How about they don't stop adding new pokemon, but in later generations (I'm talking quite a bit later) they make certain species of pokemon (ones that are less wanted/cared about/used) go extinct?

This I'm sure will get mostly "NO WAY" kinds of comments, but think of the pokemon no one ever cares about or uses. Plus, what they could do is start you off in the game and the Professor will be talking to you as usual. We know how each Professor from each game usually has some kind of thing they specialize in or are studying in particular. This one could be specializing in Pokemon Preservation, and as such it will be your job to save and breed certain endagered Pokemon. You won't be able to save all of them, and as such you will be forced to make choices. Then, each player could have a unique, or relatively unique pokemon environment as people will choose to save different ones.

Now here's the real kicker to my idea which is sure to get people "WTF"-ing. I think that the pokemon that are saved should not be tradeable to another game in which that pokemon went extinct. That way it gives people a truly unique connection with their own game.

Now, a few notes here to clarify certain things (and keep in mind I haven't thought this through too thoroughly, so there's bound to be tons of holes here and there.)

--Not all pokemon would be in the "pool" of pokemon from which to choose to save. I think Legendaries might need to all be fine.
--I'm still not sure how they would move forward after that. They could make it so that the NEXT gen after that uses the player's own data from the last one to create a world wherein the pokemon who went extinct in the previous one don't exist in the present one. Only problem here is that some people may have not played the previous one and so they wouldn't have data with which to move forward. I guess one solution for that is to hit an ol' randomize option and just go with a random world of pokemon.


With all that, I've come to another idea which is WAY less radical and might actually truly happen. (Thinking of things as I type them is interesting to say the least.)

Now, keep in mind that this is for WAY in the future when (/if) there's way way more pokemon, like 1000 or more or something.

Have 1 version of the game instead of 2. And just have each and every person when they start a new file get a random set of obtainable pokemon in their world. This would create WAY more interaction between players, because they'd have to trade much more with people to complete their pokedex. It would also make the game last so much longer in terms of truly completing the game.



Personally as I'm typing this, I see that the second idea is way better, and the first one I think could be used as more of a side-game.

Opinions?

sandcrawler
June 30th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Moar like mmorpg. If they can't expand the Poke-pool any farther, they should just go global.

YOOM-TAH
June 30th, 2008, 11:17 AM
^^That would be pretty huge and awesome but...I dunno. I really love that idea but I don't think it would ever happen.

Tenbinza
June 30th, 2008, 11:27 AM
The idea of certain Pokemon going extinct based on your actions does sound like a good idea. (Now if Jigglypuff went extinct, you wouldn't get it in future Smash Bros games - YES!)

And having a random environment with say....about 130 different Pokemon may be more managable than around .... 1954 (a random number I might add) Pokemon in the National Pokedex. Trying to memorise the abilities of of the first 200+ Pokemon is hard enough without Nintendo adding more.

KKN
June 30th, 2008, 11:59 AM
:O I wonder who posted that quoted message.

In my opinion, if the number ever did get up that high, the Pokemon world should be set up like the real world (Earth), not just 2 or 3 regions that you can venture through. This would definately make the games more adventurous and you could play for years and make plenty of new discoveries!

GKS
June 30th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Fans of the Pokemon going extinct won't be happy with it, any way I like the original Pokemon, the D/P pokemon like Bidoof and Starly haven't really impressed me in my opinion.

YOOM-TAH
June 30th, 2008, 03:10 PM
^^Well that's why you get to choose! :P

And hey, I like Starly. Staraptor is awesome, and he learns Close Combat.

And if it weren't for Bidoof we would have no pokemon to mercilessly make fun of! XD

Mitchman
July 1st, 2008, 12:20 AM
Yoo-tah u forgots magikarp and the all powerful splash! Also I would love new pokemon. I mean with the new shaymin I see nintendo thinking outside the box more and more.

.emerald
July 1st, 2008, 06:07 AM
^^is right....
but what if we forget the older gens, i mean the new one will displace the old ones...

Terri
July 1st, 2008, 07:39 AM
it's a good idea, it'll be something new as well, tho i'm not sure they'll ever do something like this

YOOM-TAH
July 1st, 2008, 12:34 PM
^^Yeah, again as I was typing it I thought of the second idea, and I realized that sounded much more plausible. I think the extinction thing could be used for a side game though.

iLike2EatPiez
July 1st, 2008, 04:33 PM
I think this would be a great theme for a game or two, but Nintendo wouldn't permanently switch to it, that's for sure. That would kind of change the whole concept of battling through gyms and beating the league to conserving Pokemon: two completely different things. As stated, though, it would make a great side-game.

Perhaps they could give us choices like Growlithe/Arcanine or Vulpix/Nintales, Zangoose or Seviper, and other previously version-exclusive Pokemon. Or you could have to choose between "equivalent" Pokemon like the Pidgey line and the Starly line, so to let you choose between old and new generations.

What you were saying about moving it forward, though, if there were to be two games... I don't think they'd see reason to relate it to the old game at all. They'd just make a new region, some new Pokemon, and you'd start all over again with new choices to make.

Hm... What would they call it, then? The extinction-game, I mean. Pokemon Global Warming, anyone? Pokemon CO2?

YOOM-TAH
July 1st, 2008, 06:06 PM
Lol the name of the game was the least of the worries for this idea, for me at least. XD

And yeah, I don't mean moving forward as in the next gen or the one after. I mean once there's like 1200 pokemon or something, if it ever gets to that.

Glitter Stain
July 1st, 2008, 07:17 PM
What would the purpose of that be?

Tsuin
July 1st, 2008, 07:27 PM
I agree with both ideas, actually. There are so many pokemon who are just kinda there...they don't really see any use, and are just collected for pokedex completion. Getting to eliminate some of those would actually make the game more fun. And as for the second idea, that's even better. You'd have to trade with a ton of people for sure, but the pokemon games have always encouraged trading, this would just be a step up.

.emerald
July 1st, 2008, 08:00 PM
i kinda agree with ya'^ but remember, if there will ever be a 5th gen, the pokedex will be even harder to complete.....

a few people in the world already did(im one of them^_^"!)
how much more if a fifth gen is added.....

YOOM-TAH
July 1st, 2008, 08:14 PM
i kinda agree with ya'^ but remember, if there will ever be a 5th gen, the pokedex will be even harder to complete.....

a few people in the world already did(im one of them^_^"!)
how much more if a fifth gen is added.....

I say another 100. Seems to be working.

.emerald
July 1st, 2008, 08:36 PM
it will be harder if 100 more pokemon!!(let alone 50!!)

YOOM-TAH
July 1st, 2008, 09:02 PM
^^And that's a bad thing? More challenge is more fun!

Plus it wouldn't be too hard if you keep your date from your current game, now would it? Then you can just do some good ol' fashioned trading!

.emerald
July 2nd, 2008, 04:38 AM
i was reffering too the all so rare nintendo event.....

YOOM-TAH
July 2nd, 2008, 09:54 AM
Well you can't honestly think they're not going to add at least ONE more pokemon that requires an event. They've done so every time, not sure why they wouldn't now.

.emerald
July 9th, 2008, 05:16 AM
what if they did?
then we would use our passports again......like last time...*sigh*

it would be harder ill tell you that.

YOOM-TAH
July 9th, 2008, 08:36 AM
HARDER IS A GOOD THING!!! That's a huge flaw in pokemon games IMO is their lack of difficulty. (D/P got a little harder in some areas, but not the actual battles).

.emerald
July 14th, 2008, 02:00 AM
HARDER IS A GOOD THING!!! That's a huge flaw in pokemon games IMO is their lack of difficulty. (D/P got a little harder in some areas, but not the actual battles).

so, you've actually flown from country to country just for the NE???(you like challenges do you???)

Azonic
July 14th, 2008, 03:15 AM
Maybe they could start making different kinds of games for every new region they introduced. Pokemon Ranger and Mystery Dungeon were new for Generation III, and a good amount of fans were interested in it. The hero of the games had different objective, making the player intrigued to find out more about the game. :x

YOOM-TAH
July 14th, 2008, 12:06 PM
so, you've actually flown from country to country just for the NE???(you like challenges do you???)

Heck no. But you can always do something like use the GTS, or just wait. Completing the pokedex shouldn't be an easy thing. However, I will admit they need to make less Event pokemon next time. It should be ONE pokemon that needs an event, that's it. And it shouldn't take like 2 years to have one here in America.

Maybe they could start making different kinds of games for every new region they introduced. Pokemon Ranger and Mystery Dungeon were new for Generation III, and a good amount of fans were interested in it. The hero of the games had different objective, making the player intrigued to find out more about the game. :x

I'm ALWAYS up for that, as Mystery Dungeon 2 was my favorite pokemon game. Totally amazing storyline.

.emerald
July 14th, 2008, 09:31 PM
Heck no. But you can always do something like use the GTS, or just wait. Completing the pokedex shouldn't be an easy thing. However, I will admit they need to make less Event pokemon next time. It should be ONE pokemon that needs an event, that's it. And it shouldn't take like 2 years to have one here in America.


it figures.... so where do you use the GTS?? Pokemon.com???