View Full Version : Milotic and gyarados?
dark_Uxie
July 20th, 2008, 06:06 PM
which one should i have because i have both a magikarp and feebas lvl 50(a lot of training XP) and im wondering whch one to evolve because i cant be bothered training them both up.
Ambellina
July 20th, 2008, 06:08 PM
I'd say Gyarados. He's water & dragon & he'll learn really good moves & he's very durable in battles (can take hits, & has a lot of HP)
Horizon
July 20th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Gyara is actualy Water/Flying, and will be much easier to get than Milotic, as you have to get as near to max beauty on the Feebas as possible (dry poffins) and level up.
dark_Uxie
July 20th, 2008, 06:16 PM
i already have feebas with max beauty I just needed to know which to lvl up cauze i dont wanna train them both cauze i only need 1 water type because thats my actual team on my trainer card in my sig and i dont need munchlax XD.
AJ™
July 20th, 2008, 06:39 PM
If you're using one of them for Battle.
Use Gyarados for a Physical Sweeper,
and Milotic for a Physical Wall, or Bulky Sleeper.
Banjora Marxvile
July 20th, 2008, 06:44 PM
Depends on the situation. On 1 hand you have a really powerful pokemon Gyarados, however one electric attack and it could be over. On the other we've got a Milotic that is like a wall. I'd have Milotic - less super effective types than Gyarados has. One electric attack = 4 times more powerful than normal on a Gyarados cos its super effective on both its types (Water and Flying)
.Eevee-Chan
July 20th, 2008, 07:08 PM
I say Milotic,a great wall and special wall.
Sheer elegance with an awsome movepool,plus TM;s!^^
dark_Uxie
July 20th, 2008, 07:25 PM
yh i think i will go with milotic.Its a good wall and t wont die easy.Feel free to close this thread XD.
.
July 23rd, 2008, 02:38 AM
Before you bash Gyarados, you have to realize that Gyarados is not meant to be a wall. Milotic and Gyarados are two completely different things. Gyarados is something you want in late game so it can rip apart a team with a single Dragon Dance. Milotic cannot do anything of that sort. In fact, Gyarados has a fighting resist, grass resist, and ground immunity. Milotic has none of those.
Syndrome
July 23rd, 2008, 03:37 AM
Dude Milotic= Uxie...a simple wall that cant do crap...plus gyarados is easier to get...just lvl up a magikarp,which can be found anywhere,unlike feebas
Sheruda Kachinuki
July 23rd, 2008, 04:12 AM
Well it depends on the user, Gyarados has a good attack power while Milotic has a good defense power
Chérii
July 23rd, 2008, 01:43 PM
Before you bash Gyarados, you have to realize that Gyarados is not meant to be a wall. Milotic and Gyarados are two completely different things. Gyarados is something you want in late game so it can rip apart a team with a single Dragon Dance. Milotic cannot do anything of that sort. In fact, Gyarados has a fighting resist, grass resist, and ground immunity. Milotic has none of those.x4 Weakness to the most common special attack is baaad. D:
Dude Milotic= Uxie...a simple wall that cant do crap...plus gyarados is easier to get...just lvl up a magikarp,which can be found anywhere,unlike feebas
-Milotic absorbs status.
-Milotic induces sleep.
-Milotic walls most sweepers.
-Milotic takes supereffective hits like a champ.
-Milotic has only two weaknesses.
-Milotic has a recovery move.
-Milotic can take a lot of damage and recover most of it off.
-Milotic deals decent damage.
-Milotic has good coverage.
And now, I dare you to call Milotic crap. Also, if you looked at the thread creator's post, he/she already has Feebas and Magikarp. Saying that Magikarp can be found anywhere is pointless at this point. Your point has been overruled.
I prefer Milotic. Gyarados is simply way too overrated and predictable. You get a single Dragon Dance in and out pops Aerodactyl, Cresselia, Forretress, Scizor, Suicune, Gengar... I could go on and on. =/
.
July 23rd, 2008, 07:32 PM
x4 Weakness to the most common special attack is baaad. D:
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-Milotic absorbs status.
-Milotic induces sleep.
-Milotic walls most sweepers.
-Milotic takes supereffective hits like a champ.
-Milotic has only two weaknesses.
-Milotic has a recovery move.
-Milotic can take a lot of damage and recover most of it off.
-Milotic deals decent damage.
-Milotic has good coverage.
And now, I dare you to call Milotic crap. Also, if you looked at the thread creator's post, he/she already has Feebas and Magikarp. Saying that Magikarp can be found anywhere is pointless at this point. Your point has been overruled.
I prefer Milotic. Gyarados is simply way too overrated and predictable. You get a single Dragon Dance in and out pops Aerodactyl, Cresselia, Forretress, Scizor, Suicune, Gengar... I could go on and on. =/
Wacan Berry is there for a reason. And considering Milotic cannot sweep (whereas Gyara can do both, wall and sweep) makes me choose Gyara over Milotic anyday.
Prof.Beezer
July 23rd, 2008, 08:51 PM
Gyrados. It's really worth having one on your team for it's attack power!
Hope this helps you decide.
FlyingMewtwo
July 23rd, 2008, 08:53 PM
You can't go wrong with the powerful Gyarados.
Syndrome
July 24th, 2008, 01:52 AM
Sure...milotic may be able to wall...but tell me how it would kill the opponets pokemon?
♣Gawain♣
July 24th, 2008, 01:48 PM
If you ask me, Milotic's even better than that ugly beast. 'Cause not only it's beauty, but also it's capabilities. If you know what are the best moves for Milotic are: Hydropump/Surf, Ice beam/Blizzard, Mirror Coat/Attract, Recover/Aqua Ring. It's super defensive against it's weaknesses. Although Gyrados is a sweeper, let us not forget it's low defence, one hit on Thunder and KO.
"Sure...milotic may be able to wall...but tell me how it would kill the opponets pokemon?"
Dude, Milotic's a fortress already, attacking with any Sp. Attack plus countering it with a wall.
Dude Milotic= Uxie...a simple wall that cant do crap...plus gyarados is easier to get...just lvl up a magikarp,which can be found anywhere,unlike feebas
And how dare you calling me Jacky(that's my Milotic's name and it's a male) a crap?
Chérii
July 25th, 2008, 01:38 AM
Sure...milotic may be able to wall...but tell me how it would kill the opponets pokemon?May I direct you to Milotic's 100 base Sp.Atk? May I direct you to the number of Pokemon that are weak to Water, not to mention the occasional MockBoltBeam? It's main purpose is to stall, anyways.
Oh, and King Tyranitar, I never said Gyarados was bad. But you have to admit, it's flying type isn't really useful. >:(
.
July 25th, 2008, 01:43 AM
May I direct you to Milotic's 100 base Sp.Atk? May I direct you to the number of Pokemon that are weak to Water, not to mention the occasional MockBoltBeam? It's main purpose is to stall, anyways.
Oh, and King Tyranitar, I never said Gyarados was bad. But you have to admit, it's flying type isn't really useful. >:(
Resistance to fighting and grass. Immunity to Earthquake and the ability to escape Dugtrio, not be harmed by Spikes of any kind is a very nice bonus.
YOOM-TAH
July 25th, 2008, 02:17 AM
Resistance to fighting and grass. Immunity to Earthquake and the ability to escape Dugtrio, not be harmed by Spikes of any kind is a very nice bonus.
It's still neutral against Grass, and even a 100 base Sp Def doesn't help its 4x weakness to electric, which is incredibly common. And it's weak to Stone Edge. Intimidate helps make switching in a little easier, but not much with that weakness to Stone Edge.
I'd take Milotic. Electric might as well not even be strong against it, since most people's electric attacks are special, and that Sp Def basically nullifies it.
Gyrados IS still good. Oh, and it doesn't wall, like you said. No one in their right mind would use Gyrados as a wall, because base 100 Sp Def is only good enough for an average wall, and its 4x electric weakness basically nulls that.
Luck
July 25th, 2008, 02:58 AM
It depends on the situation.
if you need a special wall, choose milotic, but if you need a physical sweeper, choose gyarados.
I like milotic more, seeing as how it has a stronger special defense and more equal stats than gyarados.
Gyarados doesn't have a good movepool, and it could be easily killed by an electric type because its speed is only average, while many electric types have a lot of speed.
Milotic is a great special wall, and can take quite a beating.
It can take care of a grass type with ice beam and can take a few hits with recover.
also note that gyarados has more weaknesses than milotic.
however, milotic is really hard to get, so getting a feeba will be hard, but rewarding.
The conclusion is that gyarados is terrible for defending purposes, and should only be used in attacking with strong moves like hydro pump.
oh, and...
Sure...milotic may be able to wall...but tell me how it would kill the opponets pokemon?
The most obvious reason...by attacking.
it only has average sp. attack, but can take a lot of hits, especially with its awesome sp. defense and restorative moves.
gyarados, however, has inhuman power but can only take 1-2 hits before its wings get clipped. Its not as fast as its hyped up to be.
.
July 25th, 2008, 08:54 PM
It's still neutral against Grass, and even a 100 base Sp Def doesn't help its 4x weakness to electric, which is incredibly common. And it's weak to Stone Edge. Intimidate helps make switching in a little easier, but not much with that weakness to Stone Edge.
I'd take Milotic. Electric might as well not even be strong against it, since most people's electric attacks are special, and that Sp Def basically nullifies it.
Gyrados IS still good. Oh, and it doesn't wall, like you said. No one in their right mind would use Gyrados as a wall, because base 100 Sp Def is only good enough for an average wall, and its 4x electric weakness basically nulls that.
And? A 2x weakness in Rock can still KO it. I'd rather take a 4x weakness over all the things I mentioned.