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WalkingRejection
July 23rd, 2008, 08:08 PM
I took a survey of Mew, Jirachi, and Celebi...and Mew won--hands down
so, new survey
Mew, or Arceus?
EDIT:
explanations are optional
chaos11011
July 23rd, 2008, 08:13 PM
Mew hands down should I explain why
FlyingMewtwo
July 23rd, 2008, 08:18 PM
Mew because it can learn every TM and HM, it's awesome and it's cute.
YOOM-TAH
July 23rd, 2008, 08:21 PM
Mew is not cute. Stop saying Mew is cute. It's ugly.
Arceus for sure. In fact, I never voted in the other topic. I'd put Celebi and Jirachi (and Manaphy) ahead of Mew.
FlyingMewtwo
July 23rd, 2008, 08:33 PM
Mew is not cute. Stop saying Mew is cute. It's ugly.
Arceus for sure. In fact, I never voted in the other topic. I'd put Celebi and Jirachi (and Manaphy) ahead of Mew.
Well hey, people have different opinions.
Sir Matt
July 23rd, 2008, 08:41 PM
Mew, it's more original, it's cute AND powerful (Thanks for pointing out the others people have different opinions, FlyingMewtwo),and, well, it's just awesome!
WalkingRejection
July 23rd, 2008, 09:10 PM
eh...Mew's not ugly, but I still feel it's a little overrated~
Hiroshi Uwishicarwei
July 23rd, 2008, 09:14 PM
Arceus is the Lamb of God. He is the PokePet created by God. That way, God was able to create the world with him.
Cassino
July 23rd, 2008, 09:24 PM
Mew, only because it was made back in the days when legendaries were few and far between.
JoWood
July 23rd, 2008, 09:39 PM
Mew is a more original pokemon, and although it is not a god among pokemon - it's mysterious as a legendary. It can transform, has a cute cry, and also has a predecessor. Mew rocks.
YOOM-TAH
July 24th, 2008, 02:09 AM
Well hey, people have different opinions.
I know, and I'm sorry if I sounded a little rude. Sure, Mew can be cute, but for the most part it looks like a hairless cat, which is one of the most hideous creatures known to man.
The Bringer!
July 24th, 2008, 02:20 AM
Mew is not more original than Arceus. Mew is a floating pink cat-thing. I don't think its ugly or anything, but it definitely isn't better than Arceus just because it came from "the good old days". I think Arceus has a decent design and is much more interesting than a floating cat.
YOOM-TAH
July 24th, 2008, 02:25 AM
Mew is not more original than Arceus. Mew is a floating pink cat-thing. I don't think its ugly or anything, but it definitely isn't better than Arceus just because it came from "the good old days". I think Arceus has a decent design and is much more interesting than a floating cat.
You are very very cool. I do feel people are way more biased toward the early-gen pokemon because they were the ones they "grew up" with. This comic (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=263) pretty much sums it up.
Kerotan
July 24th, 2008, 02:45 AM
I'm not a big fan of either. :\
But, I chose Mew because my friend forced me to. xD
I do think there are too many legendaries, some are just unnecessary. ^_^
The Bringer!
July 24th, 2008, 03:49 AM
You are very very cool. I do feel people are way more biased toward the early-gen pokemon because they were the ones they "grew up" with. This comic (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=263) pretty much sums it up.
I try =D. That comic is pretty funny, and it really is very truthful. I don't care for Arceus all that much, but I still prefer it to Mew.
[Technya]
July 24th, 2008, 08:15 AM
Mew. Cute, can learn all TMs and HMs and it's really cool. Arceus on the other hand is just way too overrated.
Hiidoran
July 24th, 2008, 08:56 AM
Well, at the risk of sounding conformist, I'm still going to have to go with Mew.
Arceus is cool and all, but Mew is just... Mew. I don't really have a reason. I suppose it's just a personal preference. But hey, if it was between Jirachi and Arceus, I would choose Arceus. ;)
Lentiano
July 24th, 2008, 11:41 AM
I'm going to have to go with P e n i s
WalkingRejection
July 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM
please take your ambitions somewhere else, this thread is for voting.
Tré
July 24th, 2008, 12:25 PM
well mine is mew...i think from the looks....it's not with its cuteness...but its for its kindness appearance..rather than the god of pokes...it looks like evil...not like mew...a pure god....xD...
well that's my opinion....xP
Sheruda Kachinuki
July 25th, 2008, 05:09 AM
Mew takes the crown. And as for me, Mew can shapeshift (in the movie) so Mew is excellent.
Skullie
July 25th, 2008, 05:19 AM
Lentiano,wtf? P L E A S E! Dont be such a perv.
Anyways...Arceus! :D!! *It can turn into a better looking pink!*
Mew comes in pretty close though!
Pwease! nintendo! Come out with event Arceus!
NOW! Im too reluctent to try AR :|.
Or hacks in general....
.emerald
July 25th, 2008, 05:29 AM
Arceus,better description & can change its type...
Mew is ok....
Euphoric Magikarp
July 25th, 2008, 05:33 AM
Mew, because we don't need a friggin god Pokemon.
.emerald
July 25th, 2008, 06:00 AM
Mew, because we don't need a friggin god Pokemon.
I agree, i don't want to call a pokemon "god"
But i still chose arceus..
Road
July 25th, 2008, 08:08 AM
Eh...Mew. Arceus is cool (heck, truth be told, I hacked to get one, but I made it an HM slave and then got irritated with its hacked-ness and released it), but Mew fulfills my likes more. Arceus comes in close though, with the ability to change its type. Its movepool isn't very large though, so Mew wins with that. :/
And cmon, when it's Shiny, its blue! And a nice shade of blue, at that. That's amazing right there. xD
Lol, can you tell I'm a Shiny Hunter? :3
Johnnyboi
July 25th, 2008, 11:39 AM
Arceus is ugly, I am gonna be oldschool here:
I grew up with Pokémon, I started playing Pokémon when the original games were launched in Europe, am I the only one that has noticed a quality drop in Pokémon with the Hoenn region and forward? Especially with the legendaries. Maybe it's just me... exept I don't think that really.
Mew is nice and all, cute and pink, I probably like Mewtwo better though. But still, Arceus claims to be "the god of pokémon", well, stfu silly antler god, I'll catch you in a Pokéball, stuff you in box 15 named "uglybox", keep you there forever until you stop claiming to be a god XD
Red1530
July 25th, 2008, 02:10 PM
I have to go with Mew because of its possible move pool.
.Vaporeon
July 25th, 2008, 02:17 PM
I prefer Mew.It can change into any pokemon.
Rekky
July 25th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Well, let's take a look at the two Pokémon, will we? Mew, a cute, small, pink Pokémon. It is liked by both males and females of the human race (which is a hard feat to accomplish for a Pokémon), it can learn every move in the game, it is a legendary Pokémon, it was the protagonist of the first Pokémon movie (which will always have a place in our hearts), it is officially unobtainable in the games but it can be obtained through a glitch known as the Mew Trick (though why it's known as that, I have no idea as you can encounter any Pokémon you want so long as you know how to do it properly), it's stats are okay and everybody loves its cry. Arceus, on the other hand, is a white dog with a gold plate around its body, it can turn itself into any type and it is regarded as the God of all Pokémon. I think it was too soon for a God of all Pokémon and I really think that Mew wins this. There was really no competition whatsoever. Mew was the original God of all Pokémon and for me, it'll always be my favourite out of the two, and maybe out of all of the Legendaries, because its era was an era where catching a Legendary was actually an accomplishment and Legendary Pokémon were few and far between.
PkEpiph
July 25th, 2008, 05:29 PM
Mew is WAY better than Arceus.
YOOM-TAH
July 25th, 2008, 06:08 PM
For the record, Arceus is know by FANS as the "God of pokemon". Never once was it called the "God of pokemon" in any game or anything other than the words of fans. Just because it created the universe, doesn't make it a "God of all pokemon". I don't know of any pokereligion, there's no worship or belief system involved with Arceus. He's simply the divince creator, but not a "God" per se.
Fiery Dash
July 25th, 2008, 06:14 PM
Mew is the ancestors of ALL Pokemon
BUT Arceus is the one who created the universe in Pokemon world...
It's kinda confusing which is born first...
PS: Not talking about the in game appearance order...
invisible-chan
July 26th, 2008, 02:35 AM
Mew to the infinite power. It was one of the first gen legendaries which, I will admit, I am biased towards it. It was back when it was an amazing thing to get a legendary. It was the creator of all Pokemon. Arceus is, to me at least, just another uber. Soon next gen will have an even bigger and better Pokemon and everyone will fan over that.
ShadowNHL
July 26th, 2008, 04:04 AM
Arceus because it can be any type but also Mew is a pretty cute lovable pokemon that seem's to pull through for me but I have to choose Arceus
Nightning
July 27th, 2008, 08:14 AM
Mew, I trained one once... and people dont know just how cool they are untill they've raised one
Peanutz
August 7th, 2008, 02:49 AM
They both have unique traits.
Arceus, not being capable of learning any attack, can still learn quite a lot, and is supposedly stronger than Mew. It also can change types freely with different plates, and it's color and it's signature attack, Judgment, change as well. (Judgment changes to the same type as Arceus.)
Mew, on the other hand, CAN learn any attack. It makes a good HM slave, if ya ask me. =P
Nothing else is really that special about Mew, except the fact it's cute and the ancestor of all Pokemon.
Also, just a theory...but if Arceus created the universe...wouldn't that mean it created Mew as well...?
I personally prefer Arceus. In my opinion, Arceus is cooler and better of a Pokemon than Mew.
But, don't get me wrong, I like Mew, I just prefer Arceus.
So, don't say, "ZOMG YOU'RE NOT OLDSCHOOL YOU LIKE STUPID POKEMON ARCEUS SUX LOLXD!!!"
YOOM-TAH
August 7th, 2008, 03:19 AM
Mew is "believed by scientists" to be the ancestor of all pokemon, because of its ability to learn so many moves. It's not definitively the ancestor of all pokemon. Arceus created the universe, and an entity from which two (Palkia and Dialga) sprung, and another three (Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf). Palkia created space and Dialga created time. Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf created knowledge, emotion, and willpower. I'd say they, and maybe even Groudon and Kyogre, and maybe Jirachi, all came before Mew.
Also, to the above poster - Arceus is stronger than Mew. Mew has base 100 in all stats, Arceus has base 120 in all stats.
AdvanceMapper
August 7th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Mew, because Acreus LEARNS ABOUT 10 TM'S LESS THAN MEW.
Netto Azure
August 7th, 2008, 07:14 PM
For the record, Arceus is know by FANS as the "God of pokemon". Never once was it called the "God of pokemon" in any game or anything other than the words of fans. Just because it created the universe, doesn't make it a "God of all pokemon". I don't know of any pokereligion, there's no worship or belief system involved with Arceus. He's simply the divince creator, but not a "God" per se.
Then what about that "Communal Church" in Hearthrome City?
But to me they're equally good.
Catsupper
August 7th, 2008, 07:33 PM
Well i think Arceus is better cause its so SHINY
Ineffable~
August 7th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Wow, this one's tough. Arceus, because it can change its type, and it
has a great signature move.
Mew is my second favorite POKéMON. :)
Fuyuhiko
August 8th, 2008, 12:29 AM
I like Mew totally cool and small xD.
Z o M B ii 3
August 8th, 2008, 12:40 AM
Mew.
It can transform.
It can learn all TMs and HMs.
It looks so innocent for an Uber.
'nof said.
Peanutz
August 8th, 2008, 02:09 AM
Mew is "believed by scientists" to be the ancestor of all pokemon, because of its ability to learn so many moves. It's not definitively the ancestor of all pokemon. Arceus created the universe, and an entity from which two (Palkia and Dialga) sprung, and another three (Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf). Palkia created space and Dialga created time. Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf created knowledge, emotion, and willpower. I'd say they, and maybe even Groudon and Kyogre, and maybe Jirachi, all came before Mew.
Also, to the above poster - Arceus is stronger than Mew. Mew has base 100 in all stats, Arceus has base 120 in all stats.
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I wasn't sure if Arceus is stronger than Mew or not. ^_^
Also, your theory has a good chance of being correct as well.
Mew couldn't have been alive to be the REAL ancestor of all Pokemon. That would mean Arceus would have evolved from Mew, along with the whole universe itself...
But, I think you're right. Maybe Mew is recognized for being the ancestor of all Pokemon because it can learn any attack...
We really don't have a true answer unless Nintendo reveals it themselves.
Katnip
August 8th, 2008, 02:31 AM
Mew is "believed by scientists" to be the ancestor of all pokemon, because of its ability to learn so many moves.
Hypothetically, if Mew is the ancestor of all pokemon, it still leaves us with one question: Which came first, the Arceus or the Mew?
Ruphire
August 8th, 2008, 02:46 AM
well if mew is the ancestor of all pokemon that would mean he created Arceus, Arceus created the world Dialga and Palkia created space and time Uxie , Azelf ,and Mespirit gave emotion Groudon created the ground Kyogre created the oceans Jirachi created the stars celebi created the forests... well im confused
Sushi.
August 8th, 2008, 03:02 AM
I would go for Mew because, I'm tired of people talking about Arceus as the ultimate pokemon god for the whole series :/
YOOM-TAH
August 8th, 2008, 03:33 AM
I would go for Mew because, I'm tired of people talking about Arceus as the ultimate pokemon god for the whole series :/
Tired of it or not, it IS.
ΜσdαΜϑrdεrεr
August 8th, 2008, 03:42 AM
I would go for Mew because, I'm tired of people talking about Arceus as the ultimate pokemon god for the whole series :/
IAWTC. :) I obviously voted for Mew.
Mew is bloody adorable. What does that mean? Mew > Arceus
Katnip
August 8th, 2008, 03:43 AM
well if mew is the ancestor of all pokemon that would mean he created Arceus, Arceus created the world Dialga and Palkia created space and time Uxie , Azelf ,and Mespirit gave emotion Groudon created the ground Kyogre created the oceans Jirachi created the stars celebi created the forests... well im confused
Well I was only saying that Mew is the ancestor so I could write, "Who came first, the Arceus or the Mew?" You know, like the pokemon version of "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" It's one of those questions you can ponder endlessly without getting a real answer. Maybe that's what Nintendo wants us to do.
YOOM-TAH
August 8th, 2008, 03:45 AM
Again, Mew is only THOUGHT to be the ancestor of all pokemon, on the sole basis that it can learn so many different types of moves. But I think it's quite clear Arceus came first and then Dialga/Palkia, then Uxie/Mesprit/Azelf.
Ruphire
August 8th, 2008, 04:09 AM
true its just one of those things you have to think about
Zennerick
August 8th, 2008, 05:12 AM
Mew is nice and all, cute and pink, I probably like Mewtwo better though. [S-HIGHLIGHT]But still, Arceus claims to be "the god of pokémon", well, stfu silly antler god, I'll catch you in a Pokéball, stuff you in box 15 named "uglybox", keep you there forever until you stop claiming to be a god [/S-HIGHLIGHT]XD
Ha! Nice one! In fact, I have an Arceus---*Sticks him in a box called "LonelyBox"*
Take that Arceus! Try and be a "God" now! Your in a computer!
Phoenix_Mew
August 8th, 2008, 05:25 AM
I voted Mew.
Why?
Look at my username.
Mew was my first love in Pokemon. I fell in love with her before I even knew she was legendary. (Yes, "she." Don't try to convince me otherwise.)
I have a Mew plushie and everything! (*brik'd*)
Besides, Legendary Pokemon are becoming a dime a dozen now...
PokeFan187
August 8th, 2008, 05:28 AM
Well This is a hard one. :\
Mew is cute and can learn every TM/HM, but Arceus IS The god Pokemon and can be any type.
BUT Without Arcues there would be no Mew.
So I'm Gonna have to say Arcues.
Flash11
August 8th, 2008, 05:50 AM
mew is the original "secret" legendary. I prefer it over arceus
A.B.
August 8th, 2008, 06:27 AM
Mew for me.
Arceus seems boring to me. Nothing really draws me to it.
.
August 8th, 2008, 06:28 AM
Dislike Arceus. It's definately not that interesting, sure, it gets all those plates to change it's type, but I still feel they could've done better. My opinion anyway.
Killer X 1296
August 8th, 2008, 04:15 PM
Wow, I thought Arceus was the God of Pokemon? Every since Pokemon Diamond and Pearl came out I liked Arceus and I am going to stick with my decision.
♥~*Abby*~♥
August 8th, 2008, 05:34 PM
I prefer Mew because Mew is adorable! :D
YOOM-TAH
August 8th, 2008, 05:43 PM
Besides, Legendary Pokemon are becoming a dime a dozen now...
I'd rather have a whole load of legendaries that have an interesting significance and storyline behind them then a few rare legendaries that are completely meaningless.
BeachBoy
August 8th, 2008, 05:55 PM
アルセウス for me, in other words, Arceus. Pokémon's own mythological Pangu, and the reason I select it? I suppose it's the background. It's actually mysterious, while Mew... eh, we kind of know everything about it. ._.; Arceus to me just has the right feel going for it.
Phoenix_Mew
August 8th, 2008, 06:30 PM
I'd rather have a whole load of legendaries that have an interesting significance and storyline behind them then a few rare legendaries that are completely meaningless.
Are you implying that Mew doesn't have a meaningful storyline behind her?
YOOM-TAH
August 8th, 2008, 08:12 PM
Are you implying that Mew doesn't have a meaningful storyline behind her?
Not at all actually. Just speaking in generalities about the newer legendaries compared to the older ones. There's so much more significance behind the newer legendaries compared to the older ones.
Ruphire
August 8th, 2008, 11:12 PM
I would say Arceus because it said in his pokedex entry he shaped the world with his thousand arms I mean think about it a thousand arms!!!! how cool is that
Haza
August 12th, 2008, 09:54 AM
I like them both but Mew will always have place in my heart, more than Arceus.
Professor Pine
August 12th, 2008, 07:23 PM
I love Arceus, it just is so powerful and variable!
I do like Mew as well...
Leon K. Fox
August 12th, 2008, 07:31 PM
I'm going to vote for Mew, because it's among my favourite Pokemon and I have such fond memories of it from seeing the first movie in the cinema when I was a kid and such, plus it's cute as all heck ^.^ it was also one of the first legendaries I learned about as a kid, alongside Articuno which is my favourite of the 3 legendary birds from back then as well
kaas
August 13th, 2008, 07:42 PM
Mew, because he is not so ugly as arceus. =_=
Macabre
August 14th, 2008, 07:40 AM
Mew. Because I'm old skool.
Inferno2991
August 14th, 2008, 08:39 AM
I went MEw not becuase i dislike arceus i just own a mew so maybe ill chnage my mind once i test run an arceus
Haza
August 14th, 2008, 09:11 AM
Battling wise Arceus is who I prefer, mainly because of the type change
Inoku Akamu
August 14th, 2008, 06:59 PM
I choose Mew because Mew came first in the Pokemon series and if the people say that Arceus is the "God" of Pokemon, they can keep that to themselves because I say, Mewtwo is the legendary God of Pokemon.
Nitrous Oxide
August 14th, 2008, 07:24 PM
I personally think Arceus ruined Pokemon lore.
YOOM-TAH
August 14th, 2008, 08:35 PM
EDIT - FORUMS SCREWED UP, SOMEONE DELETE THIS PLEASE.
YOOM-TAH
August 14th, 2008, 08:37 PM
I personally think Arceus ruined Pokemon lore.
Mind offering insight as to HOW he did that?
I choose Mew because Mew came first in the Pokemon series and if the people say that Arceus is the "God" of Pokemon, they can keep that to themselves because I say, Mewtwo is the legendary God of Pokemon.
Lol. "If the encyclopedia says that the Panama Canal was built in 1914, well people can keep that to themselves because I say, it was built in 1941."
Seriously, Mewtwo? Not only was he created by humans, he has "the most savage heart among pokemon."
El Gofre
August 14th, 2008, 09:03 PM
First I'd like to dispel a couple of things that constantly pop up in this kind of thread:
"I dont like arceus, it's not the real pokemon god. Mew is"
Wrong. Mew was never stated to be the god, whereas nintendo specifically call arceus the god on several occasions:
The pokemon that shaped the universe with it's 1000 arms
This pokemon was born before the universe even existed
At the heart of chaos, where all things became one, appeared an Egg
(A reference to arceus being born before the universe)
Also, arceus is classified as the alpha pokemon- Alpha means First
Mew is the ancestor pokemon- Ancestor means Distant Relative
It is therefore possible that mew is an old species of pokemon which all others are derived from, but he is most certainly not a god.
Next point:
"Arceus isnt a god, no god could be captured in a pokeball!"
-First off it's a children's game. I don't think Game Freak would be very responsible if the following popped up on the screen:
You found arceus!
Go Pikachu!
Arceus Smites you with divine powers!
You are dead, game over...
Whereas children will derive enjoyment from catching "The strongest pokemon ever". Its not about theology, it's marketing.
-Next, the arceus we catch is not the same form that created the entire universe. If you're a literal kinda guy, then the arceus that created the universe had many arms, where this one has none (Arceus can learn almost any move, but cannot learn anything that requires punching). Also, a god has to embody himself as something, so by becoming a pokemon he limits himself to that body's capabilities and requires plates to use different powers.
-Religiously, arceus loves all his creations and would rather submit to them rather than harm them, in a similar way to how jesus allowed himself to be incarcerated rather than go Godly on their roman asses- He has the power, he just doesnt use it.
-Finally, its a game and hardly possible for them to represent the divine scope of power a god could harness.
Now I've made my points, arceus gets my vote 'cause he's a llama :D
Luck
August 14th, 2008, 09:33 PM
I'd have to go with arceus.
His movepool is pretty good and can learn a lot of moves.
Mew is cute(about as cute as a shaved cat), but cute doesn't cut it for me.
now, as for the god pokemon debate, it points to mew whereas he supposedly made all pokemon.
remember everyone that it said(for arceus) it was just a myth.
Yeesh, everyone loves mew because "1T$ CutE" or because it can learn every TM.
I really don't think cuteness could win a battle. and it doesn't matter that it can learn all TM's, it is still useless if you can't give it a good strategy.
Now I've made my points, arceus gets my vote 'cause he's a llama :D
Llamas are awesome :D.
machomuu
August 14th, 2008, 10:56 PM
I feel that mew is better, not because it's nostalgic, but because it's original (SAY NOTHING YET). It is a floating cat named after the thing cats say, that's original; and no one really knows about it, it has never really shown it's powers, or really been studied (enter Team Destiny, my idea for the sixth gen game). but really, I can't say Arceus is the creator, not yet.
Neko64
August 14th, 2008, 11:46 PM
Lol well you guys should all know which one I would pick! xD
Mew hands down. It's got to be one of the cutest Pokemon I've ever seen (AND has a cute voice too! x3).
I don't really care about moves or anything in game like that, strangely enough. o_O Though I guess it's just because I don't really battle with legendaries..they just sit in my pc box and collect dust over the years lol.
-Neko
YOOM-TAH
August 15th, 2008, 02:13 AM
Lol well you guys should all know which one I would pick! xD
Mew hands down. It's got to be one of the cutest Pokemon I've ever seen (AND has a cute voice too! x3).
I don't really care about moves or anything in game like that, strangely enough. o_O Though I guess it's just because I don't really battle with legendaries..they just sit in my pc box and collect dust over the years lol.
-Neko
I can name 50 pokemon I think are cuter than Mew. He looks like a hairless cat. Those are some of the most hideous creatures alive.
But just my opinion. No sense fighting it since I'm in the minority apparently.
moments.
August 15th, 2008, 10:16 AM
I think Mew is the best mainly because he is from the first Generation of Pokemon (which happens to be my fave) and he is compassionate to everyone
I just feel Mew is not the God of Pokemon, but he earns the respect and gives it to all Pokemon.
Guillermo
August 15th, 2008, 10:18 AM
I must say, Arceus is much more.....powerful
But Mew is just so AWESOME....i voted for Arceus by mistake :( i did a misclick
moments.
August 15th, 2008, 10:20 AM
Well power is one thing, but that shouldn't determine the better Pokemon.
Unless of course you are choosing Pokemon for a competitive battling team, which still doesn't need to apply.
WalkingRejection
August 15th, 2008, 07:39 PM
I'd be personally selecting Arceus
MAINLY:
-Because I'm tired of all the biased decisions for Mew because he's First Gen.(It was Great, but get over it)
Mew's not the 'God', he's the "Alleged Ancestor of all Pokemon"(At the close of the First Gen.)
Mew is not Cute, if you still think that, I'll show you his Sprite from Green and make you cry
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/greenspr/greenspr151.png
There's just something cool about Arceus...
(and as for the Pokereligion questions, I guess we'll have to wait for Gen 6)
Tyranitar.
August 15th, 2008, 07:58 PM
Lol I would choose Arceus since the name sounds kinda cool. And If it was Shaymin(Sky or Land) Jirachi Mew or Celebi I would vote Shaymin! Shaymin's aweseome.
Solyss
August 15th, 2008, 08:01 PM
Mew. I mean, Mew was made first, and it's not like they're going to STOP making new Pokemon, new legendaries, whatever. Why make Arceus a "god"? And since when should a freaking thing like POKEMON have a God? o_o And why would such a high and mighty Pokemon be catchable? I mean... if you "caught" Arceus, then you could basically rule the world, which that will all probably end up being the plot of Pokemon the over 9000 movie. ._.
Also, Arceus is freaking ugly.
Haza
August 15th, 2008, 08:29 PM
Mew. I mean, Mew was made first, and it's not like they're going to STOP making new Pokemon, new legendaries, whatever. Why make Arceus a "god"? And since when should a freaking thing like POKEMON have a God? o_o And why would such a high and mighty Pokemon be catchable? I mean... if you "caught" Arceus, then you could basically rule the world, which that will all probably end up being the plot of Pokemon the over 9000 movie. ._.
Also, Arceus is freaking ugly.
Its a kids game. What kid wouldnt want to say : I caught the God of Pokemon Billy Bob!"
And its not completely biblical, it was just a great Idea for a legendary...but that building in Hearthome City looks an awful lot like a church?
Luck
August 15th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Mew. I mean, Mew was made first, and it's not like they're going to STOP making new Pokemon, new legendaries, whatever. Why make Arceus a "god"? And since when should a freaking thing like POKEMON have a God? o_o And why would such a high and mighty Pokemon be catchable? I mean... if you "caught" Arceus, then you could basically rule the world, which that will all probably end up being the plot of Pokemon the over 9000 movie. ._.
Also, Arceus is freaking ugly.
first, it was still a myth.
second, even if it did create the universe, that doesn't make it a god(or else it would have a religion).
it just makes it the creator of the universe.
third, it can't be the god pokemon because there ARE pokemon stronger than it.
mewtwo and deoxys for example.
and fourth, Arceus looks awesome(to me at least) because its a llama. Mew is just a shaved cat.
but i think the building in hearthome is a church.
they say a lot of stuff and there is a glass window in the front.
i actually would've picked mew until i saw the pokemon green mew.
that just killed a small part of me when i saw it.
But seriously, how is Arceus ugly when he looks like this?
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6820/arceusxj9.png (http://imageshack.us)
Verguil13
August 15th, 2008, 08:53 PM
I think they are both overrated, but I'd have to pick Mew cause of the fact it can learn any TM and HM.
Akiyo
August 15th, 2008, 09:24 PM
I pick Mew. It's simple, refined, whereas Arceus is some ugly, mishapen... thing.
And I find the idea of capturing a god ridiculous (The fact that's for marketing doesn't make it any less so.). I mean come on, like some random ten year old kid is going to save the world, take on a huge group of criminals by themselves, and then capture god in a ball, and command it to battle. Wow. I think Pokemon went downhill after Gold/Silver, and almost every Pokemon after Celebi I consider ugly.
^^^My Opinion^^^
moments.
August 15th, 2008, 11:37 PM
Yeah I have to agree with some of you guys when you say Arceus is ugly.
He just looks too misshaped for a God.
machomuu
August 21st, 2008, 05:23 AM
if you think green mew is bad, you need to see green ghastly, haunter, oddish, gloom, vileplume, and charizard, their UGLY.
WalkingRejection
August 26th, 2008, 08:31 PM
if you think green mew is bad, you need to see green ghastly, haunter, oddish, gloom, vileplume, and charizard, their UGLY.
Stay on topic, please
Make your vote, and list your opinion
*Firestar*
August 26th, 2008, 08:42 PM
I couldn't choose.
Mew - DNA Pokemon. One of my fav legendaries
Arceus - I like the type change and Judgement.
MasterPokemon409
August 26th, 2008, 08:48 PM
I vote Mew. I adore Mew. And I adore hairless cats. :)
Amplified Ampharos
August 26th, 2008, 08:59 PM
Mew Mew Mew Mew Arceus I don't like ARceus because 1.It is impossibly to get without hacking for now(Notice the excessive use on AR's now) 2.It looks like a Deformed DOnkey 3. It said he created pokemon world with 1,000 arms yet he can't learn any punching moves
Saltare.
August 26th, 2008, 09:07 PM
Arceus
numbah 1.....Arceus pwns!!
numbah 2.....Arceus can be anytype
numbah 3.....Arceus can learn kick @$$ moves!
numbah 4.....Mew is a cat....Arceus is a kick @$$ goat with 1,000 legs....nuf said
Amplified Ampharos
August 26th, 2008, 09:16 PM
HE HAS ONLY FOUR LEGS!!!!!!!!!!!<.< >.> DON"T YOU GET IT????
YOOM-TAH
August 26th, 2008, 10:54 PM
Guys. Stop calling Arceus "God". It never has once said this in any game or anime or movie or anything.
Saltare.
August 26th, 2008, 11:30 PM
HE HAS ONLY FOUR LEGS!!!!!!!!!!!<.< >.> DON"T YOU GET IT????
nuh-uh! he has 1,000 well thats what it says in the pokedex. but you have to count each bump on him as 1 leg
Duskfall
August 27th, 2008, 12:09 AM
And yes, Arceus is stated as the Pokemon God. Alpha Pokemon (the first). Arceus basically created everything.
But, I voted Mew. Mew is possibly the greatest Pokemon ever, as it has a HUGE variety of movesets. Arceus has plates, but then again, do the plates come with moves? No. He (yes, Mew IMO is NOT a FEMALE) rocks!
Andelc
August 27th, 2008, 12:09 AM
Arceus is more powerful (and arceus is sweet name) is a but i think mew cooler,
Arceus just looks stupid, I mean look at its feet , its pathetic.
Amplified Ampharos
August 27th, 2008, 09:44 PM
He has 1,000 ARMS not legs yet no focus punch
Rekky
August 27th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Guys. Stop calling Arceus "God". It never has once said this in any game or anime or movie or anything.
Well, it has been referred to as the God of all Pokémon, which renders the quoted post null and void.
Anyways, I have a view on the Mew & Arceus debacle and I dislike what I've come out with, but it's a pretty reasonable explanation. Arceus was the overlord of the Pokémon world, it was the first Pokémon ever and it had the power to create an entity known as Mew. Mew came into the Pokémon world and gave life to every Pokémon there is. Some Pokémon were more important than others; Groudon was created and it made land while Kyogre was born and it caused water to rise. Meowth, on the other hand, was a Pokémon destined to roam the world in search of food.
Yeah, my view sort of resembles Christianity (which I don't really believe in and we won't be going into it in this thread) but without it or something similar to it, you get the Mew & Arceus debacle, where you argue forever as to who is the true Original One.
My favourite, however, is Mew. It was there first and it could learn every move in the game. Yeah, Arceus can change types but it usurped Mew's throne as the overlord of Pokémon for no real reason and isn't favoured by me at all thanks to that deed.
Nashton
August 27th, 2008, 10:53 PM
MEW is the original Legendary pokemon!!
all other legends after that are all wannabes
hahaha!
M O M U S U
August 28th, 2008, 03:30 PM
I'd have to say Mew. Not because it's from the original 151. It was not even catchable in the original games, unless you used the glitch.
I like it more because it looks kind. Arceus looks like hellspawn in my opinion, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Mew also can learn every move,and even though Arceus can change types, Mew is the only Pokemon besides Ditto who can learn Transform.
So, I'm not putting down Arceus, it is a great addition to any team, but I would choose Mew for the last spot in my party anyday.
Walrein
August 28th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Mew, Arceus is a pagan idol.
Pikazard
August 28th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Arceus because it can be any type in D/P.
Tater Tot
August 28th, 2008, 03:55 PM
I don't know how Arceus battles. So I'll have to go with Mew. XD
Parabolic
August 28th, 2008, 10:06 PM
I went with Arceus. I love the aesthetic properties of it's design and the epicness of the idea of it being the creator of all POKeMON. Also, the idea that it can change type based on the plate it is holding is really cool, in my opinion.
Dragon Dance
August 28th, 2008, 10:14 PM
Mew is the best choice because its cute and powerful.
SailorShadow
August 28th, 2008, 10:25 PM
I think the idea of a god pokemon was a bad idea, so I chose Mew. I mean, it rules out the possibility of any better legendary, since the god should be strongest.
Aurafire
August 28th, 2008, 10:31 PM
Yay Mew! He's way cooler than Arceus, and he learns every TM in the game...can't get more diverse than that!
Tenbinza
August 31st, 2008, 03:16 PM
Wasn't it back in G/S/C, Prof Oak said "But we don't know everything about Pokemon yet." So maybe Arceus wasn't dicovered during that time? - I'm not going to cast my vote yet.
agurcsik
August 31st, 2008, 03:18 PM
Arceus he totally pwns Mew cuz he can change type wit plates
eleven
August 31st, 2008, 03:20 PM
The original cuteness, Mew :cool:
~DarkAchu~
August 31st, 2008, 03:27 PM
wow plates *sarcasticly*, in pokereality if arceus changed type , lets say to fire, mew would use a water move, in the poke world he can learn any move, so MEW FTW!!!!
agurcsik
August 31st, 2008, 03:28 PM
my friend's mew used metronome and it got splash lol!
problem with mew is, that if arceus knew dark or ghost type moves it could easily destroy mew
~DarkAchu~
August 31st, 2008, 03:31 PM
Mew would just transform into arceus, in a matter of fact how do we know arceus isnt just mew in disguise lmao
agurcsik
August 31st, 2008, 03:33 PM
can mew learn roar of time? (there's no tm)
~DarkAchu~
August 31st, 2008, 03:37 PM
its said he can learn any move so yes he can even without tms just not in games he cant
Luck
August 31st, 2008, 03:39 PM
nuh-uh! he has 1,000 well thats what it says in the pokedex. but you have to count each bump on him as 1 leg
It also says arceus created the pokemon universe which was based on a myth.
come on, everyone knows that mew is the true creator, but that arceus is just that much better.
how about we all go on a limb and say that mew was there before the universe?
it sounds far fetched, but no one knows what pokemon need to live(pixels).
so come on, to end the debate already.
Crazed_One
August 31st, 2008, 04:26 PM
I say Mew, the possibilities are endless.
agurcsik
August 31st, 2008, 07:47 PM
arceus can learn roar of time in the game so i say he should win
arceus pwns all pkmn
machomuu
September 6th, 2008, 04:44 PM
Arceus
numbah 1.....Arceus pwns!!
numbah 2.....Arceus can be anytype
numbah 3.....Arceus can learn kick @$$ moves!
numbah 4.....Mew is a cat....Arceus is a kick @$$ goat with 1,000 legs....nuf said
he has 1000 arms, not legs.
Stay on topic, please
Make your vote, and list your opinion
I am, I'm stating that mew is cute :)
YOOM-TAH
September 6th, 2008, 05:30 PM
Well, it has been referred to as the God of all Pokémon, which renders the quoted post null and void.
Anyways, I have a view on the Mew & Arceus debacle and I dislike what I've come out with, but it's a pretty reasonable explanation. Arceus was the overlord of the Pokémon world, it was the first Pokémon ever and it had the power to create an entity known as Mew. Mew came into the Pokémon world and gave life to every Pokémon there is. Some Pokémon were more important than others; Groudon was created and it made land while Kyogre was born and it caused water to rise. Meowth, on the other hand, was a Pokémon destined to roam the world in search of food.
Yeah, my view sort of resembles Christianity (which I don't really believe in and we won't be going into it in this thread) but without it or something similar to it, you get the Mew & Arceus debacle, where you argue forever as to who is the true Original One.
My favourite, however, is Mew. It was there first and it could learn every move in the game. Yeah, Arceus can change types but it usurped Mew's throne as the overlord of Pokémon for no real reason and isn't favoured by me at all thanks to that deed.
1. No, that's just it. It has NEVER been called the God of all pokemon by anyone other than fans.
2. That's false. Arceus created Palkia and Dialga, and in turn Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. They all came before Mew. This has been stated in the game. Most likely (though unconfirmed) Groudon and Kyogre both came before Mew as well.
El Gofre
September 6th, 2008, 05:33 PM
arceus can learn roar of time in the game so i say he should win
arceus pwns all pkmn
Arceus cannot learn roar of time :|
squirtle rocks!
September 6th, 2008, 06:10 PM
mew definately a original pokemon can learn every move and its uber cute!
Luck
September 6th, 2008, 07:51 PM
arceus can learn roar of time in the game so i say he should win
arceus pwns all pkmn
only dialga and darkrai have that move, he can't learn roar of time.
and i think YOOM-TAH explained it very well.
1. No, that's just it. It has NEVER been called the God of all pokemon by anyone other than fans.
it has never been said by nintendo that arceus is the god.
In the pokedex, it only said that it created the universe.
Just because it created the universe, it doesn't make it a god.
besides, i don't know why people hate arceus just because its a llama.
I'd like to see how they would make a supposed "god" pokemon.
YOOM-TAH
September 6th, 2008, 08:18 PM
I'm also still amazed at the amount of people who keep saying "Mew can learn every move", which is very false.
Roronoa Zolo
September 6th, 2008, 10:15 PM
Mew = DNA pokemon
Arceus = God Pokemon
Hmmm tough choice.
I choose Mew.
Uber Cute.
It can learn Transform ^__^ *transforms into Arceus*
And just because, i got a legitimate one :D
MUSION
September 6th, 2008, 10:40 PM
I'm not all that keen on Arceus, but I HATE Mew, so Arceus wins :)
God Splice
September 6th, 2008, 10:46 PM
I would have to choose Mew.
I just would rather pick him over Arceus =/
Haza
September 6th, 2008, 10:50 PM
I would just love for the two of them to share the glory.
GKS
September 6th, 2008, 11:53 PM
Arceus, because it's way stronger than mew. It's base stat is 120 point higher than mew.
Arceus: 720 (highest of any Pokemon)
Mew: 600
zzz.sleeping
September 7th, 2008, 02:53 AM
Mew is cute! Arceus... Well not very cute..
But Arceus is strong STRONG
Mōnštȝr¿
September 8th, 2008, 01:50 AM
I would choose mew any day!
Blue Angel
September 8th, 2008, 02:22 AM
Mew, Arceus is limited by what it is holding.
Eeveon
September 8th, 2008, 03:55 AM
That title, is probably the best one here in the Pokemon General so far.
The choice between Mew or Arceus is a very good question.
Well, they pretty much are the same. Mew, is always Psychic type, but has the ability to learn any TM or HM. Same goes to Arceus, but that depends on what plate it is holding.
I think the real question should be: Who is the real God of Pokémon, Mew or Arceus?
Well, they said Mew was, when the Pokemon series started, but, it's really, Mew just mostly created the DNA of the Pokémon(Or something like that. :P), while Arceus, was the actual "creator" of all the Pokémon. As said in the Pokédex, Arceus created the world with its "1000 arms".
Luck
September 8th, 2008, 04:54 AM
That title, is probably the best one here in the Pokemon General so far.
The choice between Mew or Arceus is a very good question.
Well, they pretty much are the same. Mew, is always Psychic type, but has the ability to learn any TM or HM. Same goes to Arceus, but that depends on what plate it is holding.
I think the real question should be: Who is the real God of Pokémon, Mew or Arceus?
Well, they said Mew was, when the Pokemon series started, but, it's really, Mew just mostly created the DNA of the Pokémon(Or something like that. :P), while Arceus, was the actual "creator" of all the Pokémon. As said in the Pokédex, Arceus created the world with its "1000 arms".
I have to stop you there wind~.
even though it said (in canalave library) that the original one made two, it wasn't specific.
It can be either mew or arceus that created dialga or palkia.
and just because it created the universe with its 1,000 arms, it doesn't specifically make it a god.And remember that the myth has to be fake since arceus doesn't have arms, especially when it can't learn punching moves.The only true creator can be mew.
and anyone that thinks arceus is a god just because its description is"alpha pokemon" is stupid, just wanted to point that out.
but you have to choose between your likes and battle preference, because mew is supposedly "cute", arceus is a great decision for battling, what with its wide movepool, signature move, and of course plates.
the pokedex has yet to be accurate because it said mew can learn any move, where as it can't learn spore or spacial rend.
Eeveon
September 8th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Well, it actually can have "punching moves" because, it depends on the plate it is holding.
GoodPokemonTrainer121
September 8th, 2008, 11:37 PM
That's easy Mew he's so cute ^_^
NoBel_ToKYo ™
September 14th, 2008, 07:10 PM
personally i'd rather have mew be the pokegod. i mean, tbh, he's got the perfect personality to live forever! mew is entertained by almost anything. how would it ever get bored?
i also like mews look better, but arceus is most likely stronger. i still go for mew though
Confuse
September 14th, 2008, 07:20 PM
Mew, since most people have chosen it.
Why so many decisions?
El Gofre
September 14th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Well, it actually can have "punching moves" because, it depends on the plate it is holding.
No it cannot. The only change of movepool plates cause is that of draco meteor. Other than that, plates have no effect on what arceus can or cannot learn. He has no arms, and therefore cannot punch.
In reference to your earlier point, mew has the dna of every poke, that doesnt mean he created it. This reinforces the theory that mew was the first generic pokemon species from which all others evolved (Darwin-evolved, not pokemon-evolved), and is not a legend itself. I wrote the following passage last year:
Essay time lol.....
Like i said, i go from the info we get from the games.
First came arceus
Arceus made D&P who made time and space, therefore the universe (Just a lump of dark matter at the current time)
Now Arceus had something to shove planets and stars and stuff into
Onto these planets he put more pokemon to regulate and shape them, in the case of earth;
Kyogre and groudon to form seas and landmasses
Regigigas to pull the continents into shape
The 3 Dogs to regulate fire water and thunder, and so on with all the aspects of the
planet.
At this point arceus would have either gone off and populated other planets (Depending on if he did earth first, last or whatever) or gone to sleep up at spear pillar. Alternatively he may have created these pokes from himself, therefore stripping him of lots of power, (reducing him from a god to merely godley) so he went to sleep at spear pillar to regenerate until he was strong enough to populate the next planet along.
Now for the less concrete theories
As for the more mundane pokemon, this is the evolution bit. The world was populated by mew, a whole species of them. This would explain why it contains every piece of dna, because all pokes originated from them. Some mews lived in the sea, and evolved into water types. Others lived in the desert and evolved into the grounds, and so on. Mews slowly died out apart from the one that is left, who has sustained by living in the forest of the sevii island he is found on.
Now, to explain why there is only one left. Mew is like a stem cell, all other pokemon formed from him. Since it would have been created by the god of pokemon, its biomolecular make-up to be close to perfect, so its body would be so efficient cells would be replicated as soon as they were destroyed, therefore mew would not age. the only way mew would die is of starvation, or by being eaten (Perfect cells leaves no room for mutation or disease). Some mews were herbivores, but those in the sparce deserts would be carnivores. If they migrated out of the deserts, they would see other veggie mews and eat them. This surviving mew had settled on an island in the sea (The sevii one), and because it is alone mew would eat little, and because it is surrounded by water the land would be fertile and mew would have an 'everlasting' food source, therefore allowing this mew to survive until 'present day'
So while this one merrily sat around and ate, the rest of the world was affected by darwin; Evolve or die. After millions of years any pokemon recognisable as mew had gone, leaving the one we play hide and seek with.
There, done
.:Kanto:.
September 15th, 2008, 05:41 AM
I only know Mew, So meh. I've known about Mew since 2000.
Dukey
September 15th, 2008, 08:53 AM
Mew, he can transform, and because arceus is a goat
divine wrath
September 21st, 2008, 04:57 AM
mew is personally a lot cooler than arceus to me
Nightning
September 21st, 2008, 12:46 PM
i honestly cant choose. they seem to both hjave something to do with the creation of all pokemon. it seems that the only way the're pokedex entries can make sense is if they were the parents of all pokemon ...... CUTE!
Pachireecko
September 21st, 2008, 01:07 PM
Arcues in strenght...Mew in cutness...
SethCullen
September 21st, 2008, 01:12 PM
arceus. just use flamethrower,d-pulse,dragon pulse and judgement and whatever plate and your good to go.