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MasterZman
August 16th, 2008, 05:28 PM
There is a MissingNo in Ruby it is ? In Circle.
I have a few questions for you?
Q:How come when you capture him he dissapers i can't battle with him?
Q:Why dose he have pokemon data?
Q:How do you get him without Gameshark?
Those are my questions please anserw?

Inferno2991
August 16th, 2008, 05:56 PM
umm im not exactly sure what your talking about?

Azonic
August 16th, 2008, 06:22 PM
There is no MissingNo in Ruby.
There is no Pokemon data about him.
You can't get him without GameShark.

MissingNo. only exists in RBY.

DonRoyale
August 16th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Missingo is only a stupid question mark icon that ends up being a bad egg you can't hatch even if you try. The only benefit is it's crawling with the Pokerus virus (at least, Pokerus ran wild on my party when I carried one around).

It doesn't have data. Missingo can be used as a term to describe a "flaw" in coding in the game that a Gameshark or Action Replay (in my case, anyway) unlocks. It works differently in RBY, as I don't think it screws up your Hall of Fame, and doesn't evolve into Kangaskhan or Rhydon (with two Water Gun and Sky Attack :P)

In RSE, it's just...something you use to pass Pokerus around and nothing more. Otherwise, ditch the eggs, as they're useless past their infectious Pokerus abilities.

JX Valentine
August 16th, 2008, 09:47 PM
Technically speaking...

MissingNo. only exists in RBY.

This is correct. The only actual MissingNo. is the one called MissingNo. Every other glitch (including 'M) is actually a completely and unrelated glitch in the game with slightly different functions. They're simply called glitches, and to label them all as MissingNo. is a lot like calling every Pokemon Bulbasaur. =/ They occupy different pieces of hex.

That said, I believe you're talking about ?????????? (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F), or Decamark (if I'm getting the names correct). It has 'dex data because it's a placeholder to prevent the game from crashing. Bad Egg shouldn't actually be able to hatch into this glitch; it hatches into ?, another kind of placeholder which has a completely incomprehensible (read: gibberish) 'dex entry itself.

Either way, no, you can't get any of the RSE glitches without Gameshark or Action Replay, and MissingNo. is technically not in any other generation except RBY.

MasterZman
August 21st, 2008, 07:08 PM
And i was playing Fire Red and he wasn't a badegg it just caused my game to acted weird for a few secounds then i was able to use him in battle and he wasn't a bad egg.
MissingNo is my favorite pokemon I DON't care if he messes up your game cause my games are fine and i have him in most of them!
Oh one more thing if you go into the Battle thing in the Pokemon Center and you step on the battle platfom YOU BATTLE ????????(AKA: MissingNo) this can only be done with GameShark.

Ninja Caterpie
August 21st, 2008, 11:42 PM
Hey, you can get him if you got no Pokemon. But he knows no moves. And his name is only ????????.
Not Missing.No.

JX Valentine
August 23rd, 2008, 11:10 AM
*sigh*

I DON't care if he messes up your game cause my games are fine and i have him in most of them!

I highly doubt it, considering there's only one true MissingNo., and that was in RBY.

In any case, if you handle it correctly, then no, MissingNo. does not usually corrupt game data.

Oh one more thing if you go into the Battle thing in the Pokemon Center and you step on the battle platfom YOU BATTLE ????????(AKA: MissingNo) this can only be done with GameShark.

If it's not called MissingNo., then it's not a MissingNo. Yes, everyone and their mother seems to like calling it MissingNo., but as I've said before, calling every glitch you come across MissingNo. is essentially like calling every normal Pokemon you find Bulbasaur. There's different glitches with different effects and different names. Unless it's calling itself MissingNo., please don't assume it's just another one. Call it a glitch.

Further information for research purposes and resources to back this up:

Bulbapedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Missingno#Game_locations). Note that no other game is listed here except RBY. (You can find separate articles for each glitch at the bottom of the page. Note that every one of them has their own names and own pages, rather than sections in this MissingNo. page. While I don't claim that Bulbapedia's the forefront of Pokemon information, you'd think that, given the number of editors it's had, if the glitches were all MissingNo., someone would come along and merge each page, rather than bother to create new ones. Boggling logic, yes, but the point is that this serves as a visual for the fact that, given the fact that none of the glitches are remotely alike except in the fact that they're glitches, they probably shouldn't be labeled with the name of the most infamous among them.)

MasterZman
August 25th, 2008, 05:13 PM
*sigh*



I highly doubt it, considering there's only one true MissingNo., and that was in RBY.

In any case, if you handle it correctly, then no, MissingNo. does not usually corrupt game data.



If it's not called MissingNo., then it's not a MissingNo. Yes, everyone and their mother seems to like calling it MissingNo., but as I've said before, calling every glitch you come across MissingNo. is essentially like calling every normal Pokemon you find Bulbasaur. There's different glitches with different effects and different names. Unless it's calling itself MissingNo., please don't assume it's just another one. Call it a glitch.

Further information for research purposes and resources to back this up:

Bulbapedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Missingno#Game_locations). Note that no other game is listed here except RBY. (You can find separate articles for each glitch at the bottom of the page. Note that every one of them has their own names and own pages, rather than sections in this MissingNo. page. While I don't claim that Bulbapedia's the forefront of Pokemon information, you'd think that, given the number of editors it's had, if the glitches were all MissingNo., someone would come along and merge each page, rather than bother to create new ones. Boggling logic, yes, but the point is that this serves as a visual for the fact that, given the fact that none of the glitches are remotely alike except in the fact that they're glitches, they probably shouldn't be labeled with the name of the most infamous among them.)
ANY Pokemon that comes up as Pokedex number 000 is a MISSINGNO ok getit
any pokemon that comes up as number 000 is missingno!

ANY Pokemon that comes up as Pokedex number 000 is a MISSINGNO ok getit
any pokemon that comes up as number 000 is missingno!And you won't get me to belive it isn't him.
Oh Pokemon Comunaty NICE WEB PAGE you really jazzed it up with Pokemon Platanium!

JX Valentine
August 25th, 2008, 10:25 PM
ANY Pokemon that comes up as Pokedex number 000 is a MISSINGNO ok getit
any pokemon that comes up as number 000 is missingno!

Uh, no. If you read the page I gave you as well as this one (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F) (and the link at the very bottom of this post), there's a definite difference between the two. First off, the effects of both glitches, including the fact that Decamark does not duplicate items the way MissingNo. would. Additionally, Decamark only sports one type, can only be obtained by hacking the game, and is identified by the Pokedex. (MissingNo., however, was not.) Its moveset and stats are, likewise, not at all the same -- zeroes in everything, compared to the erratic stats of MissingNo. itself, and a moveset beyond the usual double Water Guns and Sky Attack of MissingNo.

Furthermore, allow me to pull a quote from the top of the page for MissingNo.:

Some other glitch Pokémon, even in later generations, have been referred to by people as a "MissingNo."; however, these aren't related to the Red/Blue MissingNo. in any way.

Yes, a lot of glitches are labeled with 'dex #000. That's because the Pokedex literally does not identify them. However, in actuality, the term "MissingNo." only defines the original glitch in RBY. That is that particular glitch's actual name according to the game. It does not describe the condition of missing a Pokedex number. Yes, that's what the term came from, but it's not a general blanket term. It's basically the difference between the terms "Bulbasaur" and "Pokemon." In this case, "MissingNo." is the species name, just like "Bulbasaur." It names a very well-known member of the group, but it does not name the entire group because the games do not name wild specimens all MissingNo. However, the blanket term for all specimens like MissingNo. is just "glitch," just like the blanket term for all unusual creatures with special powers like Bulbasaur's is "Pokemon." So, really, by calling every glitch (and almost all of them lack a 'dex number, actually) "MissingNo.," you're essentially doing the same thing as calling every Pokemon a Bulbasaur. Like I said, if the game does not call the glitch a MissingNo., then it's not actually a MissingNo. It most likely has different effects, stats, movesets, et cetera. You'd know about all of this if you spent some time studying them. (And yes, I've tested. I used to catch 'M and MissingNo. all the time. Though they're similar, I couldn't quite call them the same. Probably because MissingNo. didn't evolve into Kangaskhan the moment I used it for battling the way 'M did.)

For a better example, most fans do not identify 'M in RBY as the same thing, even though the two are both labeled as Pokedex #000. (They even actually look the same and are contacted the same way. However, they're acknowledged as not the same glitch.) Likewise, no one really considers Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur as being the same thing, yet it's got no actual 'dex number (or entry, for that matter).

But hey, if you don't want to believe it's not the same thing (even though I've presented you with a lovely site that says otherwise), then that's fine. I just found it odd that you claim to be a MissingNo. fanatic, yet you don't actually know the difference between glitches, apparently. (I was simply trying to tell you that your original question is fairly misleading because there is no MissingNo. in RSE.) Just don't expect us to assume you're the leading resource on glitches when there's research out there already concerning every glitch in the book. *shrug*

Edit: But in case you didn't tl;dr the above, and you're still possibly with me, have a glitch dex (http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex/) from one of the most well-respected resources for Pokemon glitch information on the 'net. Note the names, and yes, you can navigate to other generations using the links on the side. While it doesn't seem that later entries are populated just yet, the RBY list should give you an idea that not all Pokemon with missing numbers are actually MissingNo.

SuperSoup
August 26th, 2008, 02:02 PM
I edited a rom and missing no appeared, So Raikizu your a bit wrong.

JX Valentine
August 26th, 2008, 03:01 PM
I edited a rom and missing no appeared, So Raikizu your a bit wrong.

Key word here is "edited." What exactly do you mean here? If you meant you ripped apart an ROM for hacking purposes, then I'd be just as willing to believe you simply inserted the name MissingNo. on what would have otherwise been a Decamark (a little like the hackers over in the hacking forum might insert fan-created sprites into their ROM hack game). If you meant you hacked the game, then again, this isn't possible. As I've said before, no glitch in RSE is actually named MissingNo. People have done plenty of research to uncover what glitches exist, and trust me, MissingNo. never came up.

There are, meanwhile, plenty of glitches that are confused with MissingNo., but as I've also said before, they're not actually related (or named the same). Unless the game actually gives it that name, then it's not a MissingNo. But I've detailed this in my last post before this one.

*shrug* To be honest, I'm not sure why I'm adamant about saying this at all.

MasterZman
August 26th, 2008, 06:08 PM
I edited a rom and missing no appeared, So Raikizu your a bit wrong. Yeah SuperSoap is right.
Hey SuperSoap is there a way to add people to there Friend List on this site because i'm adding you.

Key word here is "edited." What exactly do you mean here? If you meant you ripped apart an ROM for hacking purposes, then I'd be just as willing to believe you simply inserted the name MissingNo. on what would have otherwise been a Decamark (a little like the hackers over in the hacking forum might insert fan-created sprites into their ROM hack game). If you meant you hacked the game, then again, this isn't possible. As I've said before, no glitch in RSE is actually named MissingNo. People have done plenty of research to uncover what glitches exist, and trust me, MissingNo. never came up.

There are, meanwhile, plenty of glitches that are confused with MissingNo., but as I've also said before, they're not actually related (or named the same). Unless the game actually gives it that name, then it's not a MissingNo. But I've detailed this in my last post before this one.

*shrug* To be honest, I'm not sure why I'm adamant about saying this at all.
Go away this is my thread and your messing it up.
And Dude if you really care about Pokemon your care about missingno.
MISSINGNO I WILL AVENGE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
and nintendo better put him back in the game as ether a regular pokemon or Rare!

JX Valentine
August 26th, 2008, 06:27 PM
Way to completely fail to address my previous points.

Go away this is my thread and your messing it up.

Unless this board doesn't acknowledge my freedom of speech, I'm free to post wherever I'd like, actually. I could very well go away, but I'd rather do it when you decide to read the links I've given you and the posts I've written, rather than blow me off. It's great that you're an enthusiast, but if you want to learn more about the things you love, you actually have to do a little research on it.

Edit: Or until I'm finally bored or told off by a mod. Either way. *shrug*

And Dude if you really care about Pokemon your care about missingno.

I never said I didn't. In fact, the fact that I'm being very particular about the term "MissingNo." being thrown around as well as the fact that I've admitted to testing it and the fact that I've already detailed what knowledge I have of it (albeit collected from other sites first and confirmed by my own experiences later) imply that I probably care about the glitch with some degree of passion. If you did as well, you'd probably take the time to learn the difference between "glitch" and "MissingNo." as well, bluntly put.

The glitch you're talking about here is called Decamark (or ??????????), not MissingNo. Likewise, when it's not being called ??????????, it's just called a glitch. Programming error. Placeholder. Take your pick.

MISSINGNO I WILL AVENGE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Um... Okay?

and nintendo better put him back in the game as ether a regular pokemon or Rare!

Or what?

On top of that, the fact that Nintendo has actually released an official statement (concerning MissingNo. itself -- meaning, the RBY glitch) that essentially says "Oops. Our bad," (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/gameboy/trouble_specificgame.jsp#missingno) I think it's safe to say that Nintendo has no interest in intentionally repeating its past errors.

Look, if you want to stop arguing (and maybe ask another question about Decamark), that's fine. But until then, please don't say, "OMG, ur wrong!" or "OMG, [insert person who agrees with you] is right!" Instead, please back it up with some kind of evidence. Screenshots of RSE ? glitches with the name "MissingNo." above the HP bar, for example. Better logic, for another.

MasterZman
August 26th, 2008, 06:55 PM
Way to completely fail to address my previous points.



Unless this board doesn't acknowledge my freedom of speech, I'm free to post wherever I'd like, actually. I could very well go away, but I'd rather do it when you decide to read the links I've given you and the posts I've written, rather than blow me off. It's great that you're an enthusiast, but if you want to learn more about the things you love, you actually have to do a little research on it.

Edit: Or until I'm finally bored or told off by a mod. Either way. *shrug*



I never said I didn't. In fact, the fact that I'm being very particular about the term "MissingNo." being thrown around as well as the fact that I've admitted to testing it and the fact that I've already detailed what knowledge I have of it (albeit collected from other sites first and confirmed by my own experiences later) imply that I probably care about the glitch with some degree of passion. If you did as well, you'd probably take the time to learn the difference between "glitch" and "MissingNo." as well, bluntly put.

The glitch you're talking about here is called Decamark (or ??????????), not MissingNo. Likewise, when it's not being called ??????????, it's just called a glitch. Programming error. Placeholder. Take your pick.



Um... Okay?



Or what?

On top of that, the fact that Nintendo has actually released an official statement (concerning MissingNo. itself -- meaning, the RBY glitch) that essentially says "Oops. Our bad," (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/gameboy/trouble_specificgame.jsp#missingno) I think it's safe to say that Nintendo has no interest in intentionally repeating its past errors.

Look, if you want to stop arguing (and maybe ask another question about Decamark), that's fine. But until then, please don't say, "OMG, ur wrong!" or "OMG, [insert person who agrees with you] is right!" Instead, please back it up with some kind of evidence. Screenshots of RSE ? glitches with the name "MissingNo." above the HP bar, for example. Better logic, for another.Yes i just miss him!
He was a good fighter and move learner.
WAIT DECAMARK oh great i thought he was made up it all makes sence sorry and yes he is decamark its just i wish MissingNo wasn't a glitch but a Pokemon.
why didn't Nintendo Make Him ONE!!!!!!!!!
dude your right.

Edit: well i'm upset and probley never come back here again um i just miss missingno he shouldn't of been a glitch but a wild pokemon or Rare well Wait that means the D/P ???????? Is DP Box right?

JX Valentine
August 26th, 2008, 07:18 PM
WAIT DECAMARK oh great i thought he was made up it all makes sence sorry

It's okay. Sorry about my tone earlier.

and yes he is decamark its just i wish MissingNo wasn't a glitch but a Pokemon.
why didn't Nintendo Make Him ONE!!!!!!!!!

Oddly enough, I have no idea. MissingNo.'s got a massive fan following, with people saying this since they first found him not long after the games came out. My guess is that Nintendo/Game Freak probably doesn't want to advertise their mistakes too much, or it'd be a bit of a hassle to program a legit MissingNo. As you've said, MissingNo.'s #000. If we strip MissingNo. of his oddities that screw with the game -- namely, item duplication and graphic scrambling -- and make him a straight Pokemon with his own movepool, that means the placeholder suddenly becomes a legit Pokemon. The games, unfortunately, kinda need that placeholder for information -- a nearly blank form on which to replace information, basically.

Either that, or there'd be confusion between the glitch and the actual Pokemon. It's kinda like trying to turn Pikablu into an actual Pokemon. All those years of saying, "For God's sake, stop trying to catch this thing!" (not that Nintendo's making much of an effort nowadays) would go down the drain.

Edit: well i'm upset

Sorry about that.

Wait that means the D/P ???????? Is DP Box right?

Kind of. DPBox is another glitch only obtainable through AR or Gameshark, yeah, and one form of it (Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur) behaves a lot like ??????????, but other than that, I would say it's about as comparable as MissingNo. and 'M. Very similar but still not quite the same. (Mostly, this is seen through the appearance. ?????????? actually appears as a question mark. DPBox is either invisible or a square, depending on where you encounter it, as far as I know. I only know this much by watching YouTube videos and reading up about it, though. I've yet to really tinker with it.)

SuperSoup
August 27th, 2008, 02:49 AM
Key word here is "edited." What exactly do you mean here? If you meant you ripped apart an ROM for hacking purposes, then I'd be just as willing to believe you simply inserted the name MissingNo. on what would have otherwise been a Decamark (a little like the hackers over in the hacking forum might insert fan-created sprites into their ROM hack game). If you meant you hacked the game, then again, this isn't possible. As I've said before, no glitch in RSE is actually named MissingNo. People have done plenty of research to uncover what glitches exist, and trust me, MissingNo. never came up.

There are, meanwhile, plenty of glitches that are confused with MissingNo., but as I've also said before, they're not actually related (or named the same). Unless the game actually gives it that name, then it's not a MissingNo. But I've detailed this in my last post before this one.

*shrug* To be honest, I'm not sure why I'm adamant about saying this at all.
I just change the wild pokemon spawns for a screw around and it appeared.

JX Valentine
August 27th, 2008, 05:57 AM
I just change the wild pokemon spawns for a screw around and it appeared.

If you mean purely with AR/Gameshark and not a la fan hack, you'll want to screenshot, or I'll think you mean ??????????. =/

MasterZman
August 27th, 2008, 04:20 PM
It's okay. Sorry about my tone earlier.



Oddly enough, I have no idea. MissingNo.'s got a massive fan following, with people saying this since they first found him not long after the games came out. My guess is that Nintendo/Game Freak probably doesn't want to advertise their mistakes too much, or it'd be a bit of a hassle to program a legit MissingNo. As you've said, MissingNo.'s #000. If we strip MissingNo. of his oddities that screw with the game -- namely, item duplication and graphic scrambling -- and make him a straight Pokemon with his own movepool, that means the placeholder suddenly becomes a legit Pokemon. The games, unfortunately, kinda need that placeholder for information -- a nearly blank form on which to replace information, basically.

Either that, or there'd be confusion between the glitch and the actual Pokemon. It's kinda like trying to turn Pikablu into an actual Pokemon. All those years of saying, "For God's sake, stop trying to catch this thing!" (not that Nintendo's making much of an effort nowadays) would go down the drain.



Sorry about that.



Kind of. DPBox is another glitch only obtainable through AR or Gameshark, yeah, and one form of it (Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur) behaves a lot like ??????????, but other than that, I would say it's about as comparable as MissingNo. and 'M. Very similar but still not quite the same. (Mostly, this is seen through the appearance. ?????????? actually appears as a question mark. DPBox is either invisible or a square, depending on where you encounter it, as far as I know. I only know this much by watching YouTube videos and reading up about it, though. I've yet to really tinker with it.)
Wait couldn't they make him a regular pokemon they have Decamark to the place holder? and DPBox appears in a block?(Wait what dose the box look like the D/P Box?)
And i still need to know how to you add people to your friend list?
um Invisibel Shiny Bulbasaur when you capture him dose he turn into bulbasaur?
And what is AR i onliy know GameShark?
Any way dude your cool and i never knew he was Decamark not MissingNo i guess not every one knows.
Hey is there a Gltich City in R/S/E if so will it affect my Game Boy game or should i do it on the Emulator?

Wait couldn't they make him a regular pokemon they have Decamark to the place holder? and DPBox appears in a block?(Wait what dose the box look like the D/P Box?)
And i still need to know how to you add people to your friend list?
um Invisibel Shiny Bulbasaur when you capture him dose he turn into bulbasaur?
And what is AR i onliy know GameShark?
Any way dude your cool and i never knew he was Decamark not MissingNo i guess not every one knows.
Hey is there a Gltich City in R/S/E if so will it affect my Game Boy game or should i do it on the Emulator?
Oh Pikablue is Maril its Hex number is the same i think Bulbapedia said it was maril um don't think i'm saying "OH HE RIGHT blah" well i don't know if he's marill i just thought i saw Bulbapiedia say that?
But who is Pikared?