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blackhayate-x1000
August 22nd, 2008, 10:19 PM
I'm curious as to the public's opinion on this. What are your views on raising a powerhouse, like I did on my ruby, having a lv18 Combusken before Brawly, against raising a whole team of pokemon, like on my old Emerald, going into the Brawly fight with a team around 14-16?

tkheezy
August 22nd, 2008, 10:22 PM
I would go with a raising a team. Sure it's harder than raising just a powerhouse but that also makes things easier as the game goes along since you have six strong pokemon instead of just one super strong pokemon.

blackhayate-x1000
August 22nd, 2008, 10:28 PM
Well, think of it this way; Combusken, knowing Double Kick, Peck, and Ember? That's taking care of most of the first three gyms there, seeing as how Watson loves those Elec-Steels.
Flannery? Just as easy; Double Kick and/or Slash(If Blaziken is high enough), and Norman? He's screaming KILL ME WITH DOUBLE KICK.

From Winona on, it gets difficult, though, which is why fro Brawly on I started training Mawile, and after Winona got Phanpy, evolved that into Donphan, and Staryu, which evolved into Starmie after Tate/Liza. Thunderbolt eliminated Wallace...

But I'm getting off-topic; The first paragraph illustrates how a Blaziken could trash the first five gyms singlehandedly.

I might just do a Mono-Blaziken run...

.
August 23rd, 2008, 01:14 AM
I find the point of the game is to raise a team and battle them, like *cringe* Ash and friends did in te series. I usually have a certain Poke that will be a few levels above all, but I try to keep teams balanced, with 1-2 HM Slaves at he most.

Big-Davey
August 23rd, 2008, 01:48 AM
It's no secret - Torchic is easily the best starter to use...if you want to blitz through the game of course!

Especially on Emerald, I always start with Treecko if I ever want a Grass type in my squad, no other Grass type is good for me. Oddish has basic Sp.Atk stats and you're relying on moves like Acid to beat other people while it's growing.

Mudkip is my preferred choice. Difficult against Brawly and Norman because of the attacks you're limited to, but by then I'd always have a Kirlia all set for Brawly (despite its ailing Defense stat), and by the time I'm at Norman I've got a rather powerful Manectric backing up my usual squad involving a Swellow too. Only problem is, my Manectric has Static, which incidentally makes Facade a killer! :(

But back on topic - Ruby or Sapphire, it's definitely Torchic all the way! Until Steven at the end at he gets Earthquake'd to hell! :(

Ársa
August 23rd, 2008, 03:53 AM
5 Lv 65 odd pokemon and Bibarel is my main aim by the pokemon league. Bibarel is one of the better HM slaves, learning Strength, Surf, Rock Smash, Rock Climb etc.

~T_S

El Gofre
August 23rd, 2008, 04:12 AM
5 Lv 65 odd pokemon and Bibarel is my main aim by the pokemon league. Bibarel is one of the better HM slaves, learning Strength, Surf, Rock Smash, Rock Climb etc.

~T_S

Bibarel? This is 3rd gen T_S ;)

I myself found it easiest to beat the game with blaziken and HM slaves- Blaziken is more than capable of being a mixed attacker, and since you know which pokes the gym leaders will be using you can adjust the moveset accordingly.

Jubilation
August 23rd, 2008, 04:59 AM
I'd say raising a whole team, imagine you spend hours & hours leveling a Venasaur, it's level 50 by the fifth gym, sounds totally unbeatable yeah? Wrong, Fire > Grass. Simple.

Azonic
August 23rd, 2008, 06:17 AM
I always go for raising a team. I try to keep my in-game Pokemon close to a specific level, then advancing a few more levels at a time. For example, if my Marshtomp is at level 27, I'd take the time to train it to level 30 and the rest of my Pokemon to level 30.

One Pokemon that's incredibly strong will be worn out quickly. Say hi to status.

Yeah, I actually take the time to fight wild Pokemon... and trainers when needed. ;x

Angelic Diablo
August 23rd, 2008, 04:07 PM
Well thanks to the VS Seeker and Match Call, I now raise a team evenly, back in the color and metal games though I powerhoused my way through.

wus6r
September 1st, 2008, 12:45 PM
the first runthrough in every game i power house my way through with my starter. i then now where the pokemon r and then plan my team then start again and train a balanced team

Master Jecht
September 1st, 2008, 12:55 PM
My starter always ends up being a powerhouse and was lvl 60ish before the elite 4. Then i train all my Pokemon up on victory road.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
September 1st, 2008, 01:35 PM
I prefer the team strategy. With new features like Vs. Seeker and Move Deleter, I can raise a team of six, spreading out the HM's between them and usually have all six at Lv. 55 and in pretty good shape to beat the Elite Four with moderate level grinding. Then I can get rid of the useless HM's once I've played through the game. It's why I use a six-Pokemon team instead of a five+HM Slave setup.

That said, a powered-up Blaziken won't face major resistance till Winona, and the thing could very well be at Lv. 55+ when you meet her...

circoheeve
September 1st, 2008, 06:41 PM
I always thought that a team was best, but I raised an alakazam as a powerhouse in firered and it was amazing.

Jack Surge
September 2nd, 2008, 02:45 PM
I always raise a team, as it seems to be more fun. While it is perfectly viable to raise a single pokemon throughout the story, I find it gets monotonous using the same pokemon over and over.

When I raise a team, I usually keep my starter and catch one pokemon before the first gym. Then I'll catch another before gym three, another before or right after gym five, and then the last two by gym 8. That way, I have the team somewhat balanced, while still having high enough levels.

Lynnx
September 2nd, 2008, 02:49 PM
A team... I hate relying on just one Pokemon and carrying around a weak, just-caught team just to fill some spaces. I raise my starter first, then move up the rest of the team, and so on. It's slow, but if I have a properly balanced team I have pretty much no problems even if I'm at low levels. I use the VS Seeker to train; I don't use wild Pokemon because they give lower Exp.

Then again, I don't mind using a powerhouse once in a while. xD I like picking pokemon you can get early on and just raising one... I used a Clefable once.

Arsibiyez
September 2nd, 2008, 02:54 PM
A team or a powerhouse? Why not a team of powerhouses? I usually find that up to 3 very well trained Pokemon get you through the game well enough. Mine were Breloom, Gardevoir, and Swampert. It was easy enough, and I had only a few problems; the main one being that I didn't have enough PP to make it all the way through Victory Road without exiting it and restoring at the PokeCenter at Ever Grande. It didn't take me too long to reach the E4 though. My first Hall of Fame record included those three, and my 3 HM Slaves consisting of Tropius, Gyarados, and Linoone.

But raising a team is always better than raising a single powerful Pokemon. That's my straight answer. =]

RenviLLe
September 4th, 2008, 01:31 AM
Indeed, raising a team is better. If one loses, there will be another pokemon that wasn't so weak.

Ninja Caterpie
September 4th, 2008, 04:33 AM
A team was what I tried. My result:
Lvl 35-40 team at Mossdeep. O.o

I'd advise a mixture.
Train 2 or 3 Pokemon only. Covers weaknesses and stuff.

BassFace
September 4th, 2008, 07:07 AM
I try and go for a team strategy, and I also try and spread the elements out as much as possible. My team in Pearl, for example (I know this the the 3rd generation forum, but I'm just providing an example), has a resistance to every single type of attack, because of how many types are represented in its 6 members (4 of my 6 Pokemon are dual-types).
When raising a team, I try to keep the levels of my Pokemon as close to each other as possible. When I bring in a new Pokemon, I spend time raising its level so that it can get closer to the levels of the other team members (even if it means tedious backtracking, which it often does).

One thing that I find is very risky about powerhousing is that if you don't have a backup Pokemon that can at least hold its own at that point in the game, you'll be in trouble when it comes to status-inflicting and stat-lowering moves. I once tried powerhousing my way through a game using only Croconaw, and I ended up in a battle where Croconaw's accuracy was torn to shreds and I could barely land a single attack. I had no other good Pokemon to switch to so that I could cancel out the accuracy-lowering, so... let's just say it wasn't the most enjoyable battle in the world.

Getting back to the third generation, I started with Mudkip. I found that it was easily able to take out the first three gyms, but had a bit of trouble against the fourth (despite the type advantage) and utterly failed against Norman and his Slakings. Norman's Gym was one of the only ones where I had to really over-level my Pokemon to have an even match (besides Whitney's in G/S/C).

Pyromaniac45
September 4th, 2008, 08:23 AM
what about going in the middle? instead of raising just one uber pokemon, or 6 weakish pokemon, why not do 3 semi powerful pokemon? then you can get the higher levels along with the advantage of having different types.

but if I had to choose, i'd use blazekin and have some HM slaves

Led Zeppelin Pwn
September 4th, 2008, 12:20 PM
Even though it would be better to raise to WHOLE team and make it UBER powerful,
it would take time,
But having the whole team pretty strong, would be better and would happen sooner.
But, IMO, Emerald version is REALLY easy.

sdfs
September 4th, 2008, 01:30 PM
Raising a team is always better. It allows you to be more well rounded. With a single pokemon, you can at most cover 4 types. A powerhouse could be taken down by a well trained team in my opinion. (I've only raised one powerhouse, and it was before I ever really thought about planning teams and movesets.) I try and raise my teams fairly steadily. Get them all to 35, them get them all to 40, etc. Also, it's great to have a team because potentially, you can cover every type :)
But that's just my opinion on it.

ISa56
September 6th, 2008, 12:17 PM
Really, traning a powerhouse isn't a good way to train Pokemon. I remember trying someone's Pokemon Emerald. They had a lvl 60 Swampert and the rest of their Pokemon were lvl 12 or lower. What happens if the meet, say a Septile lvl 60?
Unless Swampert knows Ice Beam, they don't have much of a chance to win.
I mosty overtrain my Pokemon. Once I get to Victory Road, my Pokemon are level 70, and I have 5 Pokemon.