pr!m3's recoloring,splices,and revamping

[pr!m3]

hey all for a while now i have been working on some splices and i jsut got threw with my first revamping so i thouht i might as well open up a forum dedicat to it i will pot a new one every chane i get plz comment and rate
splices:http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/mankchop.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/giglet.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/groltlesaur.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/dragonoh.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/artikan.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/aerotops.png
recolors:
none as of yet


revamps:http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/revamedcharzarid-1.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/rattaandratticate.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/pidgeypigeottopidgeotrevamps-1.png

[Lucario 9]

wow there awsome are you going to make more

[pr!m3]

yes more will be posted soon here is a new onehttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/revampedvenusaur.png
the one on the left is venasuar on pokemon blue the one on the right is from pokemon leaf green

[Ocelot]

Nice.
The Venasaur one looks a little... off, but the others are awesome.
I like how you edited Ho-oh's wings onto a Dragonite.

[dragonqueen0210]

hmmm...very nice. Although the torterra and venusaur splice seems a bit awkward.

[crazitaco]

these are pretty cool. nice job but they could use some work
manky/machop is good but on the legs you used a white and it should have been a little darker than the rest of the body for shading.
on the dragonite and the kangaskahn you made the wings sprout out of the neck so they should be lower (plus there is a blak area on the left wing on dragonite that needs to be erased)
i really like the aero/kabutops thing. make more

[pr!m3]

yeah here are some more revamps there are all pokemon yellow and there recolorization is from firered/leaf green and also the charzard i did earlier is from green and the venauser is from yellowhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/rattaandratticate.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/pidgeypigeottopidgeotrevamps-1.png

[Dragonfree]

You need to edit the shading on your revamps. Look at that Rattata, for instance; it looks completely flat because you just used the shading that was there before, which in this case was nonexistent. Revamps aren't really revamps unless you truly make them look like they could be something out of a post-Advance game, which yours could painfully obviously not.

Editing the outline is also necessary for a revamp to look like something from the later games. If you look at an Advance or D/P sprite, you'll see that the outlines are colored lighter in the lighter parts and darker in the darker parts just like the main body. You need to do this on your revamps as well.

[?foʀeveʀFTW¿]

wow ^^
i love all the splices (especially the Kabutops/Aerodactyle)

could i request something?

i know it would be sort of a pain, but Im trying to create a new Pokemon for my hack

its supposed to be Absols Evolution

I need an Absol with wings

it can be any wings from any pokemon, but i really need it x3

could u use the same colors as the Absol btw?

thxies ;3

[pr!m3]

how about this you can use it just give me credit
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/absolevolution.png

here is another onehttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/nidokingrevamped.png

[Platinum Lucario]

They look really nice, I think they might be good for any Pokémon Hack. ;)

[?foʀeveʀFTW¿]

hmm, for some reason its not working.

im gonna try something else, ill update you about everything

[pr!m3]

thanks to all and also i am now taking suggestions if you have one just please post what you want and i will try my best and you all are welcome to use some of mine just ask my permission first and give me credit

[Naruto Uzumaki The Nine Tailed Fox]

They are amazing, try combing Arceus and Darkrai.

[pr!m3]

and also i am staring now holding a contest every week just in this topic for you all to post your best recolor,revamp or splice and every week i am going to add them to a special place in the first post with your name by it so every one start post them up here

here it is the ultimate life form darcius
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/darcius.png

[Naruto Uzumaki The Nine Tailed Fox]

Is it alright if I use it for my hack Poke'mon Sacred Realm?

[pr!m3]

of course considering i am part of it just give me credit

any more you want me to make

[Froslass_Maniac]

The darkrai arceus mix is good, at the absol you should work some more on it pointing to the outline

[Shringator]

Practice more.
They aren't very good.

[pr!m3]

here is a new one shartillery
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/shartillery.png

here is another one name undecidedhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/hearzor.png

[Froslass_Maniac]

You're not listening.. They still got at few points a bad outline. If the outline doesn't go correct try make an outline by yourself

[manomow]

I'm sorry but, these are really the 2nd worst sprites I've ever seen

[pr!m3]

i redid my shartillery what do you all think of this onehttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/shartillery1.png

here is the imortal life form darktinahttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/darktina.png

[Naruto Uzumaki The Nine Tailed Fox]

That Giratina, Darkrai combo is cool

[pr!m3]

out of subject but for anyone who wants to join my poision pokemon fan club go right ahead

[Watch That Pin, Drifloon!]

hey what. Didn't you guys know that requests aren't permitted? >:(

Also,
Constructive Criticism
This is something that is regarded very highly in this section. It's one thing to say, "I like it" or "Nah, it doesn't really appeal to me", but it's another to add why you don't like it. It's a lot more helpful and allows those who you are critiquing to understand the good/bad points of their work and improve upon them. For a more detailed guide into giving c+c, look [url-inline="showthread.php?t=62480"]here[/url-inline].
Make sure you're following this rule, it helps.

[Froslass_Maniac]

ergh
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/darktina.png
i have to say ok this one has no problems with the outlines. (might be because it has dark colors) but i still see problems in it it looks good. BUT i seeyou used the lower belly of darkrai and pasted it right on the belly of girantina that makes the sprite look bad.. if you want to paste the tail on a pokemon those have mostly problems that the tail is normally at the back side. If you try to paste the tail on the body it will look bad. But if you pick your pokemons whole body and paste it in front of the tail it looks much better. Still your shartillery's outlines are not there.. while i even gave you a PM with a shartillery with good outlines..

[pr!m3]

here is regiultimahttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/regiultima.png

here is my revamped feraligater the first one is from gold the second one is from crystalhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/revampedferaligater.png
and here is one i just call evelutionhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/evelution.png

[gp_arts39]

some of the fusions are very choppy in the part where apendiges (sp) meet... that makes them look kinda of sloppy. The recolors are great... but the fusions aren't all that great, or exciting. Keep up the hard work and keep practicing!

[Evilyn]

I'll start with the splices/fusions/whatever.

Don't copy/paste everything on, try so scratch some parts yourself.

The outlines are really sloppy at some places and the colors are bad.
The Machop/Mankey has some white spots near the parts where you copy/pasted the legs on. Same goes for Torterra, it looks like someone tried to chop down the tree. The shell is misplaced also.
Dragonite's wings are growing out of it's neck, it'd look better if you'd put them on the back imo. I assume that when you wanted to fuse them there was a black background in Ho-oh's sprite? If you want to get rid of it use the Fill Tool (or whatever it's called in th English version), it'll be easier to get rid of it and it won't ruin the sprite.
The Kangaskhan(sp?) has a bad color pallette *points at Articuno's tail* Oh, and you forgot to get rid of Kangaskhan's original tail.
Kabutops is just plain bad, there are random black spots in the sprite and the outline has too muck black in it too.
The Eeveelution thing would look better if you'd recolor the other parts.

Your "ravamps" aren't revamps, they're recolors. Just recoloring the sprites with the 4th (or 3rd) colors doesn't make them revamps, you have to change the shading as well.
And don't forget to recolor the outline too. Black outlines are terrible, but this doesn't mean that you have to pick purple for Nidoking and make the whole outline the same color, shade the outline too, just take a look at some 4th gen sprites and you'll see.

Practice more.
They aren't very good.
This doesn't really help, you know ;/

[pr!m3]

here is a redone version of the evelutionhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/evelution1.png

[Nikko.Ideator]

Here, your sprites are very n00by as of now. No offence, but if you learn the correct technique, I'm sure you'll get it.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/mankchop.png
For this one, remember not to just drag parts to the sprite. Cut carefully, and make it look nice and clean. Fix the out line, and don't just put arms and legs. Edit other stuff on the sprite. Also, your recoloring was very rushed-looking. When you put new parts on a Pokemon sprite, the shading on the parts and base are different, so you must add new shading for a quality look.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/giglet.png
This one looks rushed. You just recolored it (Not very well, remember the shading), and put arms on it. Don't just move parts from sprite to sprite. Make a copy of the sprite you want to get parts from, and take off the part you want, and clean it up before putting it on the base. Also, lots of the sprite's pixels appear removed, so the sprite looks messy.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/groltlesaur.png
Okay, the pixels are just messy and everywhere. Edit more, man! Plus, don't just move stuff. And recolor the whole thing in the ned so you don't look like you just made a pixel-y mess! Outlines are messed up if not removed, and the end of the middle leaf is all cut off. Fix up the parts before adding them to the base!

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/dragonoh.png
Wrong. The recolor looks ugly, the colors are too seperated. It either looks super-shaded, or too bright. There has to be a neutral color on the pattete. And it appears you moved the wings straight on. Fix it up before moving it. The left wing also looks very messed up. Almost like you moved all the missing outlines missing from your other sprites to make that ugly one there :P.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/artikan.png
No, you just resized stuff, moved wings and ribbon everywhere, and rushed-ly recolored it. It looks rushed, like you don't care about it. Treat every sprite like a child. Artists' art is important to them. Remember, you're you're sprites' god. Do you want your creations to suffer ridicule their whole life? Put some love and care into it, man!

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/aerotops.png

It looks messy. All the outlines are gross-looking, and the shading looks 1st gen. If they were, you needed to fix them up. It looks really bad, no offense. You also look like you free-hand resized it. Don't ever do resizing for parts of sprites. Only resize it once the whole thing's done, for special uses of the sprite, and don't ever present anything resized as the original.


http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/revamedcharzarid-1.png
Okay, remember the point of a revamp is to make the shading look third or fourth gen, and it failed. The sprite just looks like you recolored the simple pallete, and the whole thing looks bad. Also, if you want to use presentation box,

a.) Put all your sprites in them. They're either used to make sure all your sprites' images are the same size, or something else. But be consistant. Present your sprites the same way.

b.) Your presentation box is ugly. It's hand drawn, and only makes the sprite look worse. Use the square tool, man!

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/rattaandratticate.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/pidgeypigeottopidgeotrevamps-1.png
Same as the Charizard. You failed to fulfil the purpose of the revamp, making the shading look futuristic. They look ugly, and the Pidgeot's wing is cut off at the top.

So to sum it all up, don't rush, learn the technique, read guides (Dragonfree's is great), and put love and care into them. Also, make your thread readable. The thread's grammar and format is just bad. Make it look more like a showcase, cause that's what it is, not a "Hey guyz l00k @ my sprites lol don't call me a noob cuz my cusin sed he like dem only say i love them cuz im a noob so be nice 2 me lol", cause I know you're not like that.

I'm not trying to be mean, just constructively responding.

[pr!m3]

what do you all think i redid my geodude and diglett sprite and made this onehttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/giglet12.pngafter
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/giglet.pngbefore

and her is his evolutionhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/gravtrio.png

[Nikko.Ideator]

Much better. Three cheers for spriting!
Nothing to say, I really think you're on your road from bad to 100% perfect, now.

[pr!m3]

here is a redone version of my mankey/machophttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/mankchop1-1.pngafter
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/mankchop.pngbefore

[Froslass_Maniac]

youre getting already better ;)

[PokemonOI]

here is a redone version of my mankey/machophttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/mankchop1-1.pngafter
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/mankchop.pngbefore
those look great man especially the first one.

[pr!m3]

what do you all think of these i just figured out how to do the eraser trickhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/giraquaza-1.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/kyalga.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/palkdon.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/groterra.png

[Froslass_Maniac]

poor kyogre/dialga... wt dit you do with the shadings!! omg >_< THIS TIME THE SHADING ISNT RIGHT

the legs of groudon/palkia is too bright comparing with the rest of it's body..
Rayquaza/girantina has a very weird shading
Kyogre/Dialga is all messed up with the shading!!

the only one whos good is that groudon torterra mix..

[Snowfire]

Rayquaza/Giratina: The sprite itself is okay, it's the shading that needs some work. The bottom part is gray instead of yellow, or did you mean for it to be like that?

Kyogre/Dialga: The shading's messed up... The gray areas on the sprites are supposed to be blue.

Groudon/Palkia: The legs need to be colored appropriately. Like Froslass_Maniac said, they're too bright compared to the rest of the body.

Groudon/Torterra: This one is better than the others because it's shaded, and it's colored appropriately.

Overall, the sprites are good, you just need to work on the shading. Keep practicing, and you'll get better!^^

[pr!m3]

okay i see what you are saying on kyogure and dialga how about this i redid ithttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/kyalga-1.png
and the palkia/groudonhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/palkdon-1.png
and the rayquaza/giritina is supposed to look that way

[Snowfire]

They look much better now! :)

[pr!m3]

what do you all think of thesehttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/mewbi.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/sandgoose.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/hauntorb.png

[Blayze]

Not too bad. I can't give you tips on how/what you should fix (I can't do sprites for beans!), but I will say that I like the following:
The Composite Eevee
Kyogre/Dialga It's pretty, and looks like it should be an Ice type

And the Haunter/Electrode/ Tentacruel kinda scares me! ;)

Keep up the good work.

[pr!m3]

i thought the same it is because of its back right

[mrpwnageisme]

ok these look good =p lol

[pr!m3]

here are 2 more coming your wayhttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/mafreezema.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/elctamorter.png

[.Oblivion]

wow i really like the Dialga/Kyogre one,the groudon/Palkia one
and also the evelution no.2

[shinylugia249]

The spices are really good, but the revamps (as already stated) need work. Try working on your shading and the outline.

[pr!m3]

okay i redid my dragonite ho-oh splicehttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/dragon-oh.png
and here is a blastoise charzard onehttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/primetime1241/blasard.png