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Zathura
September 9th, 2008, 04:41 PM
JK, I wouldn't really know.

By the way, my team? It's for WiFi, not Shoddy but I guess that doesn't really matter o_o

Team at a glance:
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http://www.dragonflycave.com/dpsprites/407roserade.png
Roserade @ Focus Sash.
Timid ~ Natural Cure
HP 156/SPDEF 252/ SPE 102

-Sleeping Powder
-Toxic Spikes
-Synthesis
-HP Fire

Roserade is my lead, however I'm not so sure how effective she's going to be as seeing that I haven't really tested her yet.
The EVs are different than your standard Roserade, I wanted to make her my special waller like Blissey is, so I adjusted her EVs, hopefully it'll work out as a good TSpike setup/Suicide Lead.
The Speed EV is for outrunning standard leads but it wouldn't outrun Crobat so D:
SPDEF and HP, standard EV's for a Special Waller.
Oh, basically what I do here is sleep, set up 2 layers of Tspikes, heal if needed, then attack until she dies, then sends out a new pokemon.

The only problem is that I'm wondering whether if I should save her later on in case someone rapids the spikes?

http://www.dragonflycave.com/dpsprites/094gengar.png
Gengar @ Wide Lens
Timid ~ Levitate
HP 4/SPE 252/SPA 252/

- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast


Hehe, oh man, I just love this guy but who doesn't, amirite?
Anyway, your standard gengar, nothing special. Just a great Revenge Killer.
Hypnosis, spam away with T-bolts on Gyra, FBlasts on Blisseys, and Shadow Balls on Gallade and other shadow-weak pokemon.

http://www.dragonflycave.com/dpsprites/242blissey.png
Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold ~ Serene Grace
HP 252/ DEF 212/ SPE 4/ SPA 40/

- Seismic Toss
- Heal Bell
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled

A common Blissey (a garchomp-begone) that you really wouldn't want to see when battling :D
Seismic Toss for spamming away on pokemon (the 100HP shebang)
Heal Bell when my team is all drugged up on toxic or hypnosis D:
Ice Beam keeps the dragons at bay or in their graves >:K
And finally, softboiled is.. well you know, for healing.

http://www.dragonflycave.com/dpsprites/373salamence.png
Salamence @ Life Orb
Intimidate ~ Hasty
ATK 120/SPE 255/SPA 136

- Draco Meteor
- Brick Break
- Fire Blast
- Roost

Well I just wanted to outspeed that freaking Garchomp D:<
So the Hasty/255 SPE should outspeed them demons.
I'm not so sure if DMeteor can OHKO them but hopefully it can, with life orb and the EVs.
Obviously fblast is for scaring steels away and roost for tanking.
Brick Break? Err well for Blisseys (although it wouldn't be an OHKO, obviously) and Dugtrios.
I'm not entirely sure that this Salamence set would work out but at least I'll know it'll work out or not soon.

http://www.dragonflycave.com/dpsprites/448lucario.png
Lucario @ Choice Specs
Steadfast ~ Modest
DEF 4/ SPE 252/ SPA 252/

- HP Ice
- Vacuum Wave
- Aura Sphere
- Shadow Ball

Say hi to my Specsluke <3
Well, they're great for destroying walls, right?
Aura spheres for Blisseys (Can be 2HKOed if they don't invest in SPDEF but usually most Blisseys do, so.. :()
Vacuum Wave for a quick kill like Weaviles and other fighting-weak type pokemons. It also can pack some damage to TTars, which is perfect because he's immune to sand stream ^___^
Err, shadow ball for heras and other pokemon that's weak to ghost.

http://www.dragonflycave.com/dpsprites/184azumarill.png
Azurmarill @ Choice Band
Huge Power ~ Adamant
HP 212/ ATK 252/ SPE 44/ DEF 4/

- Aqua Jet
- Ice Punch
- Waterfall
- Body Slam


A bulkyish sweeper? :D No way!
Aqua Jet + Huge Power = Happiness.
If somebody sends in TTar or some other Water-weak pokemon, I'll send in
Azumarill and AJet them up.
Waterfall is like AJet but with more power, usually used for 0-2HKOing.
Ice punch can't really be ignored on Azumarill, especially with all of the dragons flying around shooting snot at poor innocent people :( Ice punch is a must!!
Body Slam is just lovely, don't you think? :D The 30% chance of paralyzing pokemon, just awesome.


Ok, I'm done :D
Help is very appreciated.

Dark_Azelf
September 9th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Roserade @ Focus Sash.
Timid ~ Natural Cure
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 Def

-Sleeping Powder
-Toxic Spikes
-Grass Knot
-HP Fire

Why are we concerned about stuff rapid spinning away the spikes ? Not only can Roserade hit like ALL of the common spinners for Super Effective anyways, but you have Gengar to Block that =/. (Not to mention Rapid Spinners arnt commonly seen now much tbh).

HP and Sp.def are pointless with a Sash, so just max speed and sp.att.

Use Grass Knot >> Failthesis >_>.


Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Timid ~ Levitate
HP 4/SPE 252/SPA 252/

- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast


Scarf this so you can revenge more stuff which is threatening to your team AKA Gyarados, Deoxys etc.


Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm ~ Natural Cure
252 DEF / 176 SP.DEF / 80 SP.ATT

- Seismic Toss
- Heal Bell
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled

Bold Blissey is noob =/ as is serene grace.

Calm ensures 3hko's vs Specs Luke, Specs Gar and what not. MAX Def ALWAYS on Blissey, no let up.


Salamence @ Life Orb
Intimidate ~ Rash
ATK 120/212 SP.ATT / 176 SPEED

- Draco Meteor
- Brick Break
- Fire Blast
- Roost

Well, of course you realize Garchomp still outspeeds you anyway lol? They either run Jolly or are scarfed regardless =/.

Use 280 speed, to beat Lucario so you can switch this in on that.

Lucario @ Life Orb
Steadfast ~ Modest
DEF 4/ SPE 252/ SPA 252/

- HP Ice
- Focus Blast
- Agility
- Shadow Ball

Sure, however you lack a late game sweeper so.. this does the job nicely ^_^.

Focus Blast 2hko's Blissey, however you may opt for Aura Sphere >> it if accuracy scares you.



Azurmarill @ Choice Band
Huge Power ~ Adamant
HP 212/ ATK 252/ SPE 44/ DEF 4/

- Aqua Jet / Ice Punch
- Brick Break / Focus Punch
- Waterfall
- Body Slam

Ice Punch is illegal with Aqua Jet (3rd gen move vs D/P Egg move). SO choose and use Brick break or F-Punch in the seconds slot.



Comments in bold.


It looks ok, just be careful of your common Azelf, Aero suicide Leads, they may cause problems.

Zathura
September 9th, 2008, 05:29 PM
Great rating D_A except for one thing :/
I'd like to put Wide Lens on Gengar to increase the accuracy of Hypnosis and Focus Blast.

StrickeN
September 9th, 2008, 05:40 PM
Well then a Deoxy's-S walks allll over you

IF you decide to run ScarfGar HP ice > Hypnosis, as you ahve a sleep inducer and no point in sleep and run.

You claim Roserade is a lead who is meant to die out eventually, well then remove Synthesis for Energy ball or Grass Knot, GK is prefered for Swampert and TTar leads.

The rest was pointed out by D_A ^)_(^