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DarkTyphlosion157
September 12th, 2008, 09:41 PM
(Jolteon) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

Lead. SubPass + Boltbeam. Best lead of all 7.
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(Flareon) (F) @ Choice Band
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Fire Fang
- Iron Tail
- Return
- Quick Attack

CBFlare. Superpower isn't available yet...best physical sweeper of all the Eeveelutions
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(Vaporeon) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 124 HP/252 Def/132 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Wish
- Surf

Standardish. Ice Beam for beating some Ice-weak threats.
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(Machamp) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- DynamicPunch
- Ice Punch

ResrTalker Machamp. Counters Tyranitar. Credit to Vance.
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(Umbreon) (M) @ Chople Berry
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP/164 Spd/94 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Mean Look
- Baton Pass
- Wish
- Taunt

Read Leafeon's description.
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(Forretress) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP//96 Def/162 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball

Damn needed, Dragon resist and Spinner.
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Ripped directly from Export to Text on Shoddy. Removed nicknames and added explanations. Used for Suspect.

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September 13th, 2008, 12:18 AM
I heard you like being Ice Beam Tyranitar weak. =/ Is this a theme team of some sort?

DarkTyphlosion157
September 13th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Indeed. It is an Eeveelution team with a Forretress thrown in for good measure.

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September 13th, 2008, 09:42 PM
I don't see the use of Forry, consider using Machamp, since it walls TTar, and can offer a Status Absorber.

DarkTyphlosion157
September 14th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Forretress is used as a Rapid Spinner, a Stealth Rocker and a Dragon resist, three things a Eeveelution team lacks. But yeah, I could fit Machamp in over another Eeveelution, I still have four. Which one should it go over? And what Machamp moveset?

Oh yeah, should I edit in Superpower on Flareon?

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September 14th, 2008, 05:58 PM
Blegh, unless you're playing Platinum, don't.

I'd put it over Leafeon. And use the Rest-Talk set:

Machamp @ Leftovers
Adamant
252 HP/252 Att/6 Def
Rest
Sleep Talk
Dynamicpunch
Ice Punch/Stone Edge

Archer
September 15th, 2008, 05:35 AM
If you are really worried about Dragons, ScarfGlaceon could work, as with the removal of Chomp from the Metagame, they are more easily revenged.

DarkTyphlosion157
September 15th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Vaporeon beats Dragons. Usually.

Over Leafeon then? *edits ASAP*

Actually, I'm not going to bother with the Platinum stuff.

revelp8
September 15th, 2008, 04:40 PM
I would have payback/dark pulse for STAB on umbreon, since because taunters are usually faster. that way, it wouldn't become completely useless if they taunted you first.

DarkTyphlosion157
September 15th, 2008, 05:12 PM
Umbreon is useless if it gets Taunted anyway.

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September 15th, 2008, 10:19 PM
I would have payback/dark pulse for STAB on umbreon, since because taunters are usually faster. that way, it wouldn't become completely useless if they taunted you first.


BLARG. Offensive Umbreon is sad. So no, don't suggest such useless things.

Sora_8920
September 15th, 2008, 10:32 PM
I would have payback/dark pulse for STAB on umbreon, since because taunters are usually faster. that way, it wouldn't become completely useless if they taunted you first.

Both Payback and Dark Pulse are ass on Umbreon. In fact, like Vance said any Offensive Umbreon sucks.