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Entei
August 18th, 2004, 06:50 AM
Evryday A kid plays A pokemon game or watches the pokemon cartoon The kid wishes he/she could be that pokemon or have powers witch by the way is impossible. The kids steal hurt and do lots of things to try to be A pokemon or have powers like pokemon. I'm not saying pokemon is wrong but still more people evryday are getting more violent.

Brittany
August 18th, 2004, 06:54 AM
We can put the twin towers burning, with people jumping out of it on the news.

Umm Pokemon is ok in my view...

Kairi
August 18th, 2004, 07:01 AM
I think this is more of a Pokémon General topic. =\ *moves*

asher_son_of_ash
August 18th, 2004, 07:30 AM
O_o; Not really. It's more of then adults who make kids promote violence. Pokemon promotes no sense of over-excessive violence. Unlike some games, like Tekken, Spiderman, and more.

Now if you're linking Pokemon violence to the battles and moves, that's very untrue. Pokemon battles are meant as fun or just to earn more respect from your friends.

Entei
August 18th, 2004, 07:33 AM
Really you don't think pokemon is causing violence.

Shiney
August 18th, 2004, 07:40 AM
Really you don't think pokemon is causing violence.

Of course not, if you really consider it, there's almost (Notice I said ALMOST) no way that it could.

Houndour2004
August 18th, 2004, 09:04 AM
I don´t think Pokemon cause violence too, there are more worse games.

Ash_Pokemaster
August 18th, 2004, 10:21 AM
Well, if you believe that Pokemon bring violence what rings something like Power Rangers, Xmen, GTA vice city! Pokemon is something that I can't spell, Pokemon is Strategy! Only the 20-30% is battles because to battle with other Pokemon when you have not Badges and your Pokemon is allready ok to beat the Gym, y to make battle. Ok if you say that you need battles I have to say that battle on Pokemon is not like Xmen's one or Power Rangers. And for example at Pokemon, Pokemon are not killed or something, only battles and win or lose. At GTA vice city you are killing people all the time, so where is the Vionelnce on Pokemon?

Frostweaver
August 18th, 2004, 10:24 AM
Besides Teletubbies and Barney pretty much, Pokemon is already the most friendly show possible. Pokemon are trained and tamed so they can never "kill" anyone. Even the bad guys' Pokemon too. And for heaven's sake, an epsisode got cut out because a gun was in it. How can Pokemon be violent?

On the other hand, before we stop Pokemon from being aired for being too violent, what about Digimon where cities actually do get destroyed, or Gundam Wing where 1000 nameless pilots get killed in each epsiode?

Pincushion
August 18th, 2004, 10:26 AM
Thats really funny, common Pokemon are like little animals..they never die in battle...Ash and Pikachu have a friendly battle now and then!

Its not violence..


Poppy-****!

Entei
August 18th, 2004, 12:21 PM
Well than what do you think causes violence.

Evil Togepi
August 18th, 2004, 12:24 PM
Meh, a LOT of things kids are into are blamed for violence, but seriously I don't believe Pokémon promotes violence. Yes the monsters battle but it's a friendly compertition, there are a LOT more violent kids things out there.

Most of the violence I see releated to Pokémon are kids mugging each other for cards, again it's not really the fault of Pokemon, it's cos those kids seriously need their heads looking at and probably weren't brought up right.

Sunrise's Dragon
August 18th, 2004, 02:19 PM
It's the world's rule: If something is popular, it's dangerous. Example they say, that Harry Potter is from dark side and J.K.Rowling is devil . Headless, if I can say. They haven't even read the books.

And pokémons, they have only seen when Charizard is attacking or Ivysaur is using Leech Life. They really join, if they find something what could be bad to kids.

But, it IS true, if in some family they haven't be good to their kids... But it's not only pokemon what made it, never. There's always something else and bigger,

I think.

Castrainer
August 18th, 2004, 06:22 PM
Its like... Some Adults *** Pkmn is Violent but they love to play Counter Strike o.O;;

Xhaiden
August 18th, 2004, 08:45 PM
Tecnically it is showing how we should oppose stealing and hurting others.....I mean the main charcters do things to SAVE the world not hurt anyone......yeesh....Baka...

Shadow
August 18th, 2004, 09:38 PM
Besides Teletubbies and Barney pretty much, Pokemon is already the most friendly show possible. Pokemon are trained and tamed so they can never "kill" anyone. Even the bad guys' Pokemon too. And for heaven's sake, an epsisode got cut out because a gun was in it. How can Pokemon be violent?

On the other hand, before we stop Pokemon from being aired for being too violent, what about Digimon where cities actually do get destroyed, or Gundam Wing where 1000 nameless pilots get killed in each epsiode?
Yes, guns were cut out of Pokemon, but in one of the most popular kids shows, Looney Toons, Elmer Fudd chases Bugs Bunny with a shotgun in almost every episode and shoots Daffy a couple times...

It is just parents wanting to blame their inability to raise children right on something else, and since Pokemon wasn't made in the US they find it is much easier to blame it and get the government agencies on their side.

Jay
August 18th, 2004, 09:53 PM
God another hipocritical person who has nothing better to do then find a way to start something. This is just like the people who try to shut down music industries or sue a band. You are just finding an excuse for someone to be violent, when it is really a movie or something that the child thought was cool or wants to imitate it. It is a one in a million chance that there will be a bad outcome. Which also means that a little violence can not lead to a bad thing. Perhaps a little bit of violence can actually help ones self be more assertive and it could lead to good leading skills.

Entei
August 19th, 2004, 01:17 AM
Okay maybe I should'nt have started this thread.

Jeremy
August 19th, 2004, 02:42 AM
If Pokéon is violent, let's say Super Mario is violent, Zelda is gory, and Hamtaro and Kirby are extremely violent.

Come on, Pokémon isn't violent. >_>

Scyther5
August 19th, 2004, 02:59 AM
Violence, maybe a little..but hey this show is practiacly revolved around friendship..so its not that bad =/

Jay
August 19th, 2004, 03:02 AM
Well actually you get to kill things in mario.

But games like Enter the Matrix and Syphon Filter rule. Guns and bombs and knives and all that blood I love it!

Xhaiden
August 19th, 2004, 04:08 AM
I think of it this way...Kids are not the way they are because of T.V. shows. They are the way they are because of the people around them. They look up to certain people and want to do what they do. Like for instance, Big brother wears baggy pants= a million gangster wanna bes......

Blitz
August 19th, 2004, 04:13 AM
ummmmmm........................... is that a fact or opinion? I haven't seen ne studies linking pokemon and violence. i would say its a very extreme opinion.

Brittany
August 19th, 2004, 07:01 AM
Well, its time for my two cents.

Pokemon was the cause of WWI, WWII, and Bush's war.

There have been many 'Pokemon' style drug trades, and gang fights going on. For some reason, when the dealer gives out his substance, he says "go chronic!", or "go dank!!"

When gangs have fights, they tend to throw rocks, and call out Pokemon names. And when the average child has a fight in school, he says "Its all because of that ****ed Pokemon show!, ever since I started watching the show, I've been dying for fights!"

And when children do poorly on tests, they usually blame it on their Pokemon. "Charmander gave me the wrong answers" "Pikachu made me laugh through the test" etc.

So as you can see, Pokemon IS the reason for violence, and other disturbing issues too.

Shiney
August 19th, 2004, 07:05 AM
Well, its time for my two cents.

Pokemon was the cause of WWI, WWII, and Bush's war.

There have been many 'Pokemon' style drug trades, and gang fights going on. For some reason, when the dealer gives out his substance, he says "go chronic!", or "go dank!!"

When gangs have fights, they tend to throw rocks, and call out Pokemon names. And when the average child has a fight in school, he says "Its all because of that ****ed Pokemon show!, ever since I started watching the show, I've been dying for fights!"

And when children do poorly on tests, they usually blame it on their Pokemon. "Charmander gave me the wrong answers" "Pikachu made me laugh through the test" etc.

So as you can see, Pokemon IS the reason for violence, and other disturbing issues too.

This post brought to you by whatever LFP16 has been smoking tonight. :cheeky:

Brittany
August 19th, 2004, 07:09 AM
This post brought to you by whatever LFP16 has been smoking tonight. :cheeky:
I've been smoking Pokemon, what else?

BTW: Pokemon is the reason for my drug addiction too.

Shiney
August 19th, 2004, 07:28 AM
I've been smoking Pokemon, what else?

BTW: Pokemon is the reason for my drug addiction too.

Uhh, no. Smoking any plant Pokemon would induce halucinations, not impaired judgement.

BountyHunter
August 19th, 2004, 07:52 AM
Pokemon ruined my social life.http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons6/24.gif

Shiney
August 19th, 2004, 07:53 AM
Pokemon ruined my social life.http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons6/24.gif

Social... life? Social life? What is this strange thing you speak of?

BountyHunter
August 19th, 2004, 07:54 AM
I know it lost all meaning for me aswell. :D

BountyHunter
August 19th, 2004, 07:55 AM
Uhh, no. Smoking any plant Pokemon would induce halucinations, not impaired judgement.
I smoke Pokemon all the time. :cool:

asher_son_of_ash
August 19th, 2004, 10:52 AM
@_O; Okay. Stop acting humourous, this moment. It's bad LFP16's acting like a drug addict. This thread could be closed, if you continue this.

Brittany
August 19th, 2004, 03:34 PM
@_O; Okay. Stop acting humourous, this moment. It's bad LFP16's acting like a drug addict. This thread could be closed, if you continue this.
I'm not a drug addict. I still use drugs(just Mary Jane), only, I am just not addicted.

And why should we stop acting humorous? This is a funny topic. Pokemon linked to violence! XD!

I was just saying, that if you connect Pokemon to violence, you might as well connect it to doing drugs, sex, selling drugs, bad grades, Cancer, AIDS, rape, slavery, being homeless, stealing candy from babies, etc...

TTYO
August 20th, 2004, 08:45 AM
What about Star Wars is it violence too? I have a Pokemon fic which my characters do bleed a little.

TTYO
August 20th, 2004, 08:45 AM
What about Star Wars is it violence too? I have a Pokemon fic which my characters do bleed a little and get killed. talk about the Death Star's demise

jynx
August 21st, 2004, 10:02 AM
Pokemon is not even grade 2B violence!

How could parents say that Pokemon is violent without searching some informations?
Silly parents!

asher_son_of_ash
August 22nd, 2004, 08:08 AM
The only violence in Pokemon is their numerous fanfics. O_o;

Daniel
August 22nd, 2004, 09:10 AM
Violince! Pokemon! I dont think so. So what about GTA. Its 112 % violince ca. :laugh: Anyway, It was pokemon(And power rangers) That learn me english.....

Toothache
August 22nd, 2004, 09:14 AM
Violince! Pokemon! I dont think so. So what about GTA. Its 112 % violince ca. :laugh: Anyway, It was pokemon(And power rangers) That learn me english.....

Typo and grammar correction to save the day. Here's proof that Power Rangers and Pokemon aren't the best sources to learn English:

Violince = Violence
"That learn me english" should read "that taught me English".

Anyway, on topic, Pokemon is about as violent as... well, a very softhearted geek. So not very at all.

Daniel
August 22nd, 2004, 09:21 AM
Typo and grammar correction to save the day. Here's proof that Power Rangers and Pokemon aren't the best sources to learn English:

Violince = Violence
"That learn me english" should read "that taught me English".

Anyway, on topic, Pokemon is about as violent as... well, a very softhearted geek. So not very at all.

Okay, Okay so Im not that good! But I my age I think its fine.

jynx
August 22nd, 2004, 01:38 PM
Okay, Okay so Im not that good! But I my age I think its fine.
Come on... grammar does not matter THAT much.
As soon as people understand you is ok.

The average Pokemon violence ranking is 2A, and 2B was the highest recorded.

(Rankings: 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A is inappropriate for children, 3B, 4Acannot be shown on TV, 4B cannot be shown in public)

I consider anything under 3A as Not Violent.

Toothache
August 22nd, 2004, 01:43 PM
Hey Jynx, where are you getting these ratings from? Are they made up, or is there an actual real system that uses this?

jynx
August 22nd, 2004, 01:44 PM
Hey Jynx, where are you getting these ratings from? Are they made up, or is there an actual real system that uses this?
Far as I know, at least Hong Kong uses this system.
And "Mewtwo Strikes Back" was rated 2B. (highest I've seen in Pokemon)

Muffin Man
August 26th, 2004, 08:05 PM
I remember when shops would start putting up those obnoxious "pokemon-free zone" stickers and schools would start banning the pokemon trading cards, because apparently it was "obstructing children from doing their work". Always blaming pokemon for everything!!! It made me want to puke.

An incident I heard on the radio that "a boy was stabbed for his pokemon cards" Immediately, I began to think of all those annoying parents pointing fingers and making accusations at pokemon, but who is really to blame?The parents- they should've taught their kid better, than to stab, I mean, you don't see knives and stabbing for things in pokemon, do you? Do you? No...

Fantasy violence in pokemon, Television and games shouldn't be blamed for countless murders, robberies and everything else. The irresponsible parents and people doing them should.

Parents don't want their kids to have any fun, because it's "harmful"

salamenceruler04
August 26th, 2004, 08:36 PM
I agree wit that...pokemon doesnt even give off barely any violence at all...n i mean its not graphical are nuthin...there is no blood are ne thing like that........wat kinna games are "4B"?

jynx
August 29th, 2004, 01:37 PM
I agree wit that...pokemon doesnt even give off barely any violence at all...n i mean its not graphical are nuthin...there is no blood are ne thing like that........wat kinna games are "4B"?
Haven't seen a game in public 4B rated.

They'd have2 b personally made for the creator him(her)self.
No game over 3B rated can be sold public.

metagrossman
September 1st, 2004, 09:57 AM
There is a great link with pokemon and violence but its like bull riding! people enjoy it and in the end the man on the bull gets killed any way so in a way we are a bit dumb in the first place!

Mr Cat Dog
September 1st, 2004, 10:15 AM
Technically, the actual idea of Pokemon is pretty inhumane. First, you try and attack a creature who has done nothing to you until it is too weak to fight. Then you throw this thing to knock it on the head and hurt it even more, then it gets enclosed in this miniture prison thing, waiting for it to be let out just to battle other kinds of Pokemon, or perform moves for a panel of people who's job it is to select the greatest out of the great.

What I'm saying is that is Pokemon was real, then animal rights autorities would be onto training like a shot. Thank God it's only a video game... is all I say. :D

"A Vote for Justice is a Vote for MCD"

Pincushion
September 1st, 2004, 10:27 AM
Ok They Fight, Yeh but if fighting in kids programs was banned, well we wouldn't have any kids programs still on T.V! Pokemon is only violence to people who want it to be, they just make it up, If Pokemon was truly violence it would;ve been banned years ago, lets face it, Pokemon has been out for 6s+ years!

Nothings changed in it!

Brittany
September 1st, 2004, 11:43 AM
Technically, the actual idea of Pokemon is pretty inhumane. First, you try and attack a creature who has done nothing to you until it is too weak to fight. Then you throw this thing to knock it on the head and hurt it even more, then it gets enclosed in this miniture prison thing, waiting for it to be let out just to battle other kinds of Pokemon, or perform moves for a panel of people who's job it is to select the greatest out of the great.

What I'm saying is that is Pokemon was real, then animal rights autorities would be onto training like a shot. Thank God it's only a video game... is all I say. :D

"A Vote for Justice is a Vote for MCD"
First of all, thanks for stealing my slogan. Secondly, the Pokeball isn't a prison, Pokemon supposedly like the ball. Thirdly, Pokemon fight alongside humans, not against them(exept for when battling a wild Pokemon, but it was the Pokemon that attacked you!)

So ner.

Mr Cat Dog
September 1st, 2004, 01:01 PM
I've had that slogan for three days now... Anyways, how do you know that Pokemon like the ball? We don't know what's inside the ball do we? How can we tell? Sure... they might like it, but there's also a chance that it might lock them in in liquid state. Until we know the insides of a PokeBall when a Pokemon is inside it, then we do not know how cruel (or nice) it is.
Also, I didn't say they didn't fight alongside humans, but by making them fight, they are attacking their own kind (generally, not just say an Eevee vs an Eevee or something similiar). They might not want to fight, but they have to, to protect their trainer, who just keeps it inside a PokeBall all day.

"A Vote for Justice is a Vote for MCD" :D

metagrossman
September 1st, 2004, 01:16 PM
Ok but then again its not real soin a way its a dumb idea not to to not take it much too seriously!

Mr Cat Dog
September 1st, 2004, 02:51 PM
I'm not that serious am I? *realises that he does seem to be* Eh he he he... *hides*

But, around where I live, no one actually likes Pokemon. So... no one really says it's too violent, since they haven't played on it. I'm not actually sure what other people would think if they played with it. :/

"A Vote for Justice is a Vote for MCD"

salamenceruler04
September 1st, 2004, 08:47 PM
Does it really matter if they like the pokeball are not...i mean it just a t.v show...its not like the pokemon is actually in a little ball....

Latias
September 1st, 2004, 10:46 PM
I sadly say it's true. Once, many years back, I little boy wanted to be like Scyther, so he grabbed two butcher knives from the kitchen, put one in each hand, and 'battled' his little sister. He didn't severely injure her, and he didn't want to...but still, it scares me. I can't stand the thought of a poor little kid killing themselves over Pokemon.. ;-;

~Kelsey

Pogiforce-14
September 1st, 2004, 10:55 PM
Any person in their right mind will not do something so stupid. That'st eh mother's fault for not keeping an eye on teh little lunatic. :\ The pokeball is designed to contain a habitat that is comfortable to teh specific pokemon inside it. I read that somewhere, but where I don't know what. And the pokemon may be abttling each otehr, but they see it as a form of enjoyment, as no one gets truly hurt from it unless someon goese too far, no different than a good game of football.

Dizzy
September 1st, 2004, 11:26 PM
Nothing Causes Violence, its the way people think. Like I said previous times, Japanese People (whether 8 or 88) are less likely to copy STUPID stuff off TV as Americans (or just plain stupid people) would.

Pogiforce-14
September 1st, 2004, 11:39 PM
Exactly what I said. Only stupid people would try to copy stuff from a cartoon.

ThunderBlade
September 2nd, 2004, 12:08 AM
How can anyone take pokemon THAT seriously, its jsut a game man. Let us blow our money on it, we get our stuff, the people in Japan get there money=We're all happy

Pogiforce-14
September 2nd, 2004, 03:55 AM
A way to sum it all upin a nutshell. People who try to be a pokemon that are crazy enoguh to go around swining butchers knives need to be committed, not pampered and then sue whomever they were trying to imitate.

Brittany
September 2nd, 2004, 04:18 AM
I've had that slogan for three days now... Anyways, how do you know that Pokemon like the ball? We don't know what's inside the ball do we? How can we tell? Sure... they might like it, but there's also a chance that it might lock them in in liquid state. Until we know the insides of a PokeBall when a Pokemon is inside it, then we do not know how cruel (or nice) it is.
Also, I didn't say they didn't fight alongside humans, but by making them fight, they are attacking their own kind (generally, not just say an Eevee vs an Eevee or something similiar). They might not want to fight, but they have to, to protect their trainer, who just keeps it inside a PokeBall all day.

"A Vote for Justice is a Vote for MCD" :D
I have had that slogan, for 5 or 6 days now, thank you.

Pokemon never complain about the ball, and if the Pokemon doesen't want to protect you, have you noticed what it does in the game? 'Onix decided to take a nap', and stuff. Part of the storyline, is that Pokemon naturally like you. I don't know why they did that, they just did.

Anyone that seriously committs any crime, or does anything dangerous because of Pokemon has a serious mental problem.

Zoe0Shockwave0
September 2nd, 2004, 06:27 AM
This is Dateline NBC
Later in the news; has the Pokemon phenomenon gone too far...

...

"Pocket Monsters" by Connie Chung

Last nite police say 5 year old Kyle [Bleep] tried to physically force or stuff his 7 year old yorkshire terrier into whats being called a pokeball, fataly wouding it several times.
To you and me its obvious that this would never turn out as portrayed on the popular kids television phenomena, Pokemon. ...
^ come on that was funny



^ too bad i disclaim all uses of Connie Chung and Dateline stating that it was never true.

asher_son_of_ash
September 2nd, 2004, 06:38 AM
Let me get this strait. (A little geography humour there. XD; )

Did you say a five year old? ... NO WONDER POKEMON IS GETTING FORCED DOWN!! Lots of small children with no properly developed minds keep doing violent stuff.

Pogiforce-14
September 3rd, 2004, 03:53 AM
What kind of ball was teh kid trying to get his dog in that made the dog get hurt?! The ball on the end of a ball and chain?! :\ Crazy little lunatics...