View Full Version : Day.......... and Night
Zangooser
August 18th, 2004, 04:09 PM
Since Espeon and Ubreon are back
The only way for Eevee to evolve into those two is to raise them in the dark or the light. which means that the Morning/Noon/Evening/Night thing from GSC is comming back. :\ :disappoin :\ :disappoin
shining_light
August 18th, 2004, 04:14 PM
No, It Doesn't. THe Programmers wanted to keep the game as original as possible. Only way to get Espeon/Umbreon isto trade from Colluseum. That's it. You don't get them in FR/LG. Sorry to burst your bubble :P
Castrainer
August 18th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Not at all. In Ru/Sa, Wurmple evolves to Silcoon in sunlight, and to Cascoon during the night and the Day/Night system didnt appaered...
shining_light
August 18th, 2004, 04:17 PM
What are you trying to get at, Gian?
Frostweaver
August 18th, 2004, 04:22 PM
Nope. Wurmple evolves COMPLETELY RANDOMLY. Day and night doesn't do a thing for Wurmple
However, day and night does exist. It doesn't do any effect on graphics or anything like in GSC. Eevee will evolve into Umbreon or Espeon after you unlock the Nationaldex, and then depending on day and night, Eevee will evolve. (however since there's no graphic for day and night, you'll just have to check the time yourself).
Zangooser
August 18th, 2004, 04:55 PM
Nope. Wurmple evolves COMPLETELY RANDOMLY. Day and night doesn't do a thing for Wurmple
However, day and night does exist. It doesn't do any effect on graphics or anything like in GSC. Eevee will evolve into Umbreon or Espeon after you unlock the Nationaldex, and then depending on day and night, Eevee will evolve. (however since there's no graphic for day and night, you'll just have to check the time yourself).
What the heck are you talking about
Wurple's evolution depends on Gender :tired:
GymLeaderLance99
August 18th, 2004, 05:26 PM
That's right. Well, it's what I've found anyway. And to evolve Eevee into Espeon and Umbreon, trade it to Ru/Sa and then evolve them when it's the appropriate time. If it's the same from GSC, then Espeon can evolve from 6am to 5:59 pm, and Umbreon from 6pm to 5:59 am. Just check the clock in your room in Littleroot.
Toothache
August 19th, 2004, 09:19 AM
It seems there's a lot of misconceptions about Eevee and his friendship evolutions. And Dustox and Beautifly as well, it seems. Let me attempt to clarify things.
While there is no apparent day and night in Ruby and Sapphire, the internal clock does work in the same way as Gold, Silver and Crystal. Wurmple's two evolutions, Silcoon and Cascoon are dependant on the time in which you evolve him.
From people who've hacked an Eevee into their game, it is even possible to level up and gain either an Espeon or an Umbreon through happiness - although you may have to do a bit of guesswork to work out when night and day time is, since you can't really check it.
Haruki Hanai
August 19th, 2004, 09:49 AM
Happiness and time determines Eevee's evolutions.
If your Eevee is happy during the day, it'll evolve into Espeon.
Same way but during the night, it becomes an Umbreon.
All that is done in RS. However the National Dex for RS is required, and you need to trade from FRLG after obtaining the National Dex in that.
FRLG has no time at all. Eevee can only evolve by stones in that game, but transferring and evolving it in RS or using Colosseum is the only way to get it into FRLG.
aqonix
August 20th, 2004, 03:21 AM
I have done test I evolved two wrumples a the same time of day one female one male
males = Beautifly
females = Dustox
forgive my bad spelling :nervous:
Frostweaver
August 20th, 2004, 03:37 AM
I'm sure that it's not day and night, as you can get both at the same time. However this misconception is very common (I thought that it's day/night at first too) because Beautifly learns morning sun and Dustox learns moonlight, leading us to think of Beautifly as day and Dustox as night.
Gender is also impossible, as you CAN get male and female Beautiflies. You can prove this by finding both male and female silcoons, male and female cascoons. Gender is out of the picture. All semi-accurate pokedexes online will tell you that there's 50% for both gender for both Beautifly and Dustox.
This leaves us with personality values and EVs left as they are the only numbers left. EV is manipulated, so it cannot be EV. All we're left with is personality values, and controlling that is impossible, so we can just say "it's random."
Testing with Wurmple for evolution is OFTEN inaccurate, such as the many claims made in this thread. This is because there are too many personality value combinations (31 to the power of 6 = 887503681). Out of all those massive amounts of possible combinations, 443751841 of those combinations will result in Beautifly, and the others in Dustox. You can easily catch 20 male Wurmples that satisfy one out of the 44375184 possible combinations to get yourself a Beautifly.
This is the reason why all this Wurmple matter vary from site to site. How can you "test" it out? You won't find a unified answer. The only way to find this is to hack into the game itself and see what's the determining factor, which is what Meowth has done.
Dizzy
August 20th, 2004, 06:12 AM
Its totally random, I already experimented on this. I caught 12 Wurmple (yes..research took a while, but patience shone through) and I carried 6 with me the first time. The result of the First Set was:
-Keep in mind I will skip Cascoon and Silcoon-
Male Wurmple > Beautifly
Female Wurmple > Dustox
Male Wurmple > Dustox
Female Wurmple > Dustox
Male Wurmple > Beautifly
Female Wurmple > Dustox
The First Set obviously had over 50% Dustox. But the next set:
Male Wurmple > Dustox
Female Wurmple > Beautifly
Male Wurmple > Beautifly
Female Wurmple > Dustox
Male Wurmple > Dustox
Female Wurmple > Beautifly
The Next set was equally rivaled. So me puzzled, I went out and captured 6 more Wurmple, and this was the result:
Male Wurmple > Dustox
Female Wurmple > Beautifly
Male Wurmple > Beautifly
Female Wurmple > Dustox
Male Wurmple > Beautifly
Female Wurmple > Dustox
Once again...this set tied between Dustox and Beautifly.
Totally random, 18 Wurmple and a few hours of research. Although There was slightly more than 50% Dustox (10 to be exact) I can still say totally random, none of them were given anything to hold, and were all raised the same way.
-Now...I have 18 Dustox/Beautifly...who wants one?
Castrainer
August 20th, 2004, 06:16 PM
Well, mine always evolved to Beautifly at Day, and Dustox at night... So its just coincidence @__@
But how about the High and Low Tides at Shoal Cave?
Toothache
August 20th, 2004, 06:24 PM
The Shoal Cave changes tide every six hours (a sailor right near to the cave tells you about that).
Castrainer
August 20th, 2004, 06:27 PM
The Shoal Cave changes tide every six hours (a sailor right near to the cave tells you about that).
So... There are no Night at Ru/Sa? o__o
Toothache
August 20th, 2004, 06:28 PM
Not completely sure about that. There is time, yes, because a lot of things depend on the internal clock (berry growth, Shoal Cave, etc), but I'm not completely sure how it's set up
GymLeaderLance99
August 20th, 2004, 06:33 PM
I'm sure the time is the same as it was in GSC, so look at my earlier post where I put the times as I explained about Espeon and Umbreon.
Frostweaver
August 20th, 2004, 06:34 PM
Night doesn't exist. "Nightime" does though. You can't see any graphic changes, so night doesn't exist. However, the effect of nightime is still here, even though it's minimal and almost neglectable.
-affects evolution (Eevee into Espeon or Umbreon)
-affects moonlight/synthesis/morning sun
The biggest lost is the different wild Pokemon found depending on time of the day... I have no idea why they want to wipe out neat things like that O.o;
Castrainer
August 20th, 2004, 06:43 PM
Night doesn't exist. "Nightime" does though. You can't see any graphic changes, so night doesn't exist. However, the effect of nightime is still here, even though it's minimal and almost neglectable.
-affects evolution (Eevee into Espeon or Umbreon)
-affects moonlight/synthesis/morning sun
The biggest lost is the different wild Pokemon found depending on time of the day... I have no idea why they want to wipe out neat things like that O.o;
Thanks for da Explanation, frostweaver...
And I agree... Hitting people with Mach Bike at Night would be cool and I would call myself an Assassin ^_^ XD
VanirElf
August 26th, 2004, 07:16 PM
uh...wurmple's evolution is random
as for espeon and umbreon
the game has an internal clock remember
u don't see the change but espeon and umbreon
both evolve, at the according times
6PM to 5:59AM u get umbreon
6AM to 5:59PM u get Espeon
I have both in my sapphire version , all u need is an eevee to breed
so u can get the others
besides if it's a remake u can get eevee in that um...saffron or was that
celedon...I don't remember but where the casino is in the old version
u could get an eevee there so you should be able to get one in fr/lg