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s p a c e c o w b o y
September 22nd, 2008, 06:49 PM
my friend keeps beating me and i cant figure out why. what should i do differently?

here's my deck

Turtwig x4
Grotle x4
Torterra x1

Swinub x5
Piloswine x2
Mamoswine x1

eevee x5
vaporeon x1
leafeon x1

palkia x1
regigigas x1

potion x3
super potion x1
night maintenance x2

water energy x11
grass energy x11
rock energy (needed for swinub/piloswine/mamoswine) x3


now that i look at it, i should have less basics :)

anyway, tell me what you think

.emerald
September 22nd, 2008, 06:58 PM
What attacks does your Mamoswine have?

s p a c e c o w b o y
September 22nd, 2008, 07:11 PM
What attacks does your Mamoswine have?


ice fang 40
flip a coin. if heads, the defending pokemon is paralized, and discard an energy attaced to the pokemon

charge through 60+
you may do 60 damage plus 40 more and 40 damage to one of your opponents benched pokemon. if you do, mamoswine does 40 damage to its self

.emerald
September 22nd, 2008, 07:16 PM
Well, basically your deck has a good layout.
I don't get how you lost?

s p a c e c o w b o y
September 22nd, 2008, 07:36 PM
Well, basically your deck has a good layout.
I don't get how you lost?

i think its cause he has a retarted stradigy. he puts up a piplup, retreats it, puts forward Rampardos, attacks, retreats, and puts the piplup back up... i hate it
other then that im not sure why i keep losing.

.emerald
September 22nd, 2008, 07:58 PM
OH! A good strategy your friend has
I call it back forth!
Good!

Just keep killing any card he brings out.

jackowacko876
September 23rd, 2008, 02:28 AM
I think you might want to reduce your Grotle to 2 or 3 and add more Trainers.

This thread should have gone in the deck-rating sub-forum.

s p a c e c o w b o y
September 23rd, 2008, 04:56 AM
I think you might want to reduce your Grotle to 2 or 3 and add more Trainers.

This thread should have gone in the deck-rating sub-forum.

oh... my bad :embarrass lol where is this sub-forum

transcender
September 23rd, 2008, 12:15 PM
The deck-rating subforum is over at http://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=115

Anyway, a few things.

You can only have four of any one (non-basic energy) card in your deck. You say you have five swinub and eevee, so that's one too many.

With that deck list, you're going to have a really hard time getting anything out without it being knocked out with a turn or two. Since I think you're new to this from your list, I'd just recommend adding in some supporters. If you bought any starter decks, those are cards like Mom's Kindness, Bebe's Search, etc.

You can only play one per turn but they'll let you set up your stage 1 and 2 much faster. If you have to take something out to make room for those, I'd take out some potions, they're largely not worth the deck-space.

Rinusu
September 30th, 2008, 01:32 PM
Its a good deck..but add more trainers.. and since you need the fighting energies.. Energy Search?
Maybe you should focus on.. Water/Fighting.. It would be easier...

s p a c e c o w b o y
September 30th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Its a good deck..but add more trainers.. and since you need the fighting energies.. Energy Search?
Maybe you should focus on.. Water/Fighting.. It would be easier...


well the thing is, i dont have very good fighting types. tho im on a mission to get some lucarios :) i only have the fighting energys for my Swinub and his evolutions. and i did. and i added more trainers. some bebe's reasearch helped ABUNCH also a few technical machines that have a move called evoluter. its basicly the same as bebe's research. but thanks for the suggestion

Rinusu
September 30th, 2008, 01:54 PM
ya.. evolutor and bebe's search are great cards...

Shadow Chant
February 22nd, 2009, 12:36 AM
Why do you have 5 eevee and 5 Swinub? It is illegal in Pokemon Organized Play or even other Pokemon TCG tourney's to use more than 4 of the same card. (Except energy)

No potion, no super potion either. Run 2 Majestic Dawn Torterra and 1 of the DP Torterra, with 1 Lv.X.

4 Rare Candy is definitely needed in decks like these. Or if you want, try to find the Great Encounters Scepile to boost this deck up a little. Then too many energy slows down the deck.

Hope that helped.

Shukuen Shinobi
February 23rd, 2009, 05:19 PM
First off, you can't have 5 of anything except Basic Energy, so you're already doing it wrong. I suggest looking at a rule book. It'll help.

Your lines are inconsistant. A proper line should be consistant across the bored, with fewer of the Stage 1 if you play Rare Candy, and there is no reason not too.

Also, you need more trainers. They are a vital part of the game. Supporters, obtain them, use them, love them.

It's Fighting Energy.

Combos please.

tl;dr
learn to play

IcePyro
February 25th, 2009, 04:23 PM
They probably have those new level X cards, and seem to be crushing you with better attacks. If you had a status afflictor or two, than you could cripple their deck 10-30 damage each turn using something like Will-O-Wisp. Also, try a more spread out approach. Instead of using 5 of your basics (which is illegal to do *looks at rule book* you can only have four of one species at the maximum. If it had a different name however, you could have something like four Team Magma's Poochyena and four Poochyena. But, I don't know if you know this or not, you can only evolve pokemon with that same name on the evolve status. Such as you can't evolve a plain Mightyena from a Team Magma's Poochyena.), you could either keep the pokemon you have, and add more to the Stage 1 pokemon, or you could make a change in your deck to (here it comes again) a status afflictor (like Drifblim. Some cards of him have Will-O-Wisp).

Different Problems (in a nutshell):

~Status Afflictors (they deal damage without you even ATTACKING)
~Lack of Super Potions and Potions
~Too many Grotles (seriously)
~60 CARD DECK (I only counted 57, but knowing me, i'm probably wrong)
~You might want an energy search, because if you need that Fighting-type energy, you might want to have that on hand
~Then again, who knows? Might just be a lack of experience to put you in a position where you know what to do, when to do it

EvilCrobat
March 2nd, 2009, 11:47 AM
maybe you need more potions?

Shiun Enshidia
March 3rd, 2009, 03:10 AM
I ask, can you have more then like 3 MD Eevee's and 2 of another? Or is it a clear cut 4 Pokemon only?
I argue you have far too much energy. 25 energies is far too much. You also have a few too many basics in there. 5 Eevee to 1 Vaporeon and Lefeon? 3 at most would do.
I would say that your best bet is to reduce those 2 and build on the Trainer/Supporter/Stadium area. Get Supporters like Bebe's and Roseanne's and some more trainers.

donavannj
March 3rd, 2009, 05:02 PM
I ask, can you have more then like 3 MD Eevee's and 2 of another? Or is it a clear cut 4 Pokemon only?

Here's how it works (just going straight into an example, here):

This: 4 Vaporeon (Jungle), 3 Light Vaporeon (Neo Destiny), 2 Dark Vaporeon (Team Rocket)
...would work.

This: 3 Vaporeon from Jungle and 2 Vaporeon from another set would not work. The name has to be different.

Shadow Chant
March 4th, 2009, 08:51 PM
No Energy Search. It slows down against donk decks such as Rampardos.

4 Bebe's Search and 3-4 Roseanne's Research.

You need those supporters to speed up the deck.