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katonic
October 8th, 2008, 07:55 PM
I am finding it really tough to catch mewtwo in firered. I used my masterball on entei, so I just have ultra and great balls. So far I use a gloom to paralyse it then get its health down to red and chuck balls at it. Usually I end up killing it, but the last battle was pretty immense and I exhausted it's moves and eventually it struggled itself to death :( What's the most effective status problem I can give it? and is it true that I can get timer balls somewhere in the game? They would help a lot! Any help would be greatfully appreciated :D x

Soluna
October 8th, 2008, 07:59 PM
I'm not sure which status effect is the most effective, but I know you can buy Timer Balls (and other balls like Repeat Balls) at the shop on Two Island. You have to have reached a certain level in the game for them to appear in his inventory, though.

groudonlover
October 8th, 2008, 08:09 PM
Use FALSE SWIPE (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/False Swipe (move)) and then Sleep or Paralysis. You get Sleep by SPORE (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Spore (move)), HYPNOSIS (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hypnosis (move)) or SLEEP POWDER (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sleep Powder (move)), wich your Venusaur(i assume you have it, as you have Entei...) can learn, and Paralysis from for example STUN SPORE (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Stun Spore (move)) (Venusaur here too...). BUT! Mewtwo has a CR(Catch Rate) of 3, wich means you in 3 times out of 1000, affected by lost health, status and ball used, and if he uses Safeguard it will block both Sleep and Paralysis. I used my Master Ball, i liked chasing Latios, but it was before i realized thar Entei knows Roar...

katonic
October 8th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Can you get double status on firered? I know you can on diamond but any time I use spore when mewtwo is already paralysed it fails. And do you know what stage of the game you have to be at? I've defeated the elite 4 once, and caught entei and all the birds - do I need to complete my pokedex or something? Thanks for the help so far! x

Sevre90210
October 8th, 2008, 08:24 PM
I used Shadow Ball to get him down to the yellow zone before slowly hacking away at him with my Alakazam. Once I got him down to deep red I used hypnosis and started chucking red balls, at a capture rate of 3 its really down to luck.

groudonlover
October 8th, 2008, 08:56 PM
You can catch him when you have completed the Network Machine on One Island, PSYPOKES (http://psypokes.com/lgfr/walkthrough.php) has a good guide to it, then he will be in the Unknown Dungeon waiting for you to capture it! Psypokes has a guide for that too

Kayashi
October 8th, 2008, 11:52 PM
Timer Ball is your best bet. After 30 turns, the Timer Ball will be 4 times as powerful as a regular Pokeball, making the Timer Ball arguably the strongest Pokeball in the game. I suggest inducing Sleep condition instead of Paralyze condition because the Sleep condition is twice as effective as the Paralyze condition. And of course, there's False Swipe, which you use when the opponent is near breaking point to get it down to 1HP and Sleep.

Timer Balls are on Two Island.

Clevink
October 9th, 2008, 12:00 AM
I've always found the sleep status is more effective than any other status ailment. Also, if you're using a VBA, use save states to help. Write one right before you click to send the Ultra Ball/Ball of choice and if it doesn't catch it, keep on doing it until it does. If not, just use Timers. Hope I helped!

Ninja Caterpie
October 9th, 2008, 01:30 AM
Ahah!
I heard using a Pokeball at Orange HP does wonders? Not sure, but train up a VERY strong Scyther with False Swipe. Then just False Swipe till it's on 1HP and...Spore and Scary Face it. Yeah. Then just toss your Polkaballs

katonic
October 9th, 2008, 09:06 PM
thanks, some great suggestions! i'll keep trying with sleep instead of paralysis and get some timer balls, wish me luck! x

SvobodaMT
October 10th, 2008, 02:00 AM
Spore, False Swipe, and Timer Balls are basically all you need. False Swipe is a really weak attack, but with Spore, you can put Mewtwo back asleep almost immediately after it wakes up, and just keep attacking it until its left with 1% HP. Timer Balls work the best over any other ball in the game (other than Master Balls, obviously), and after a while, you should have a strong enough ball to capture Mewtwo quite easily.

Good luck.

Cactus Twist
October 10th, 2008, 02:05 AM
freezing him should do the trick

MrsMime
October 10th, 2008, 02:07 AM
I agree with Clevink, sleep is definitely the most effective; at least it has been for me.
I heard a rumour somewhere that you can only catch Mewtwo with a Masterball. XD

groudonlover
October 10th, 2008, 03:57 PM
You can catch him in a Dive Ball if you like, but he has a CR of 3, just as i said, making him one of the Hardest-to-Catch Pokemon Ever.
Also, he has Recover at Capture, so make sure he STAY at low health.
Now the 4rd gen move Heal Block would be useful, but the 2nd gen move Taunt would also work...

SvobodaMT
October 10th, 2008, 04:11 PM
You can catch him in a Dive Ball if you like, but he has a CR of 3, just as i said, making him one of the Hardest-to-Catch Pokemon Ever.
Also, he has Recover at Capture, so make sure he STAY at low health.
Now the 4rd gen move Heal Block would be useful, but the 2nd gen move Taunt would also work...
???

A Dive Ball is equal to a regular Poke-ball, unless it is used on seafloor Pokemon (Clamperl, Relicanth, etc.). That makes it extremely useless against a Mewtwo, let alone any other high leveled non-seafloor Pokemon.

Besides that, Dive Balls aren't even available in FR/LG. Dive is no longer used as an HM, and all of the underwater elements were taken out. The only place any are available is in Mossdeep City, in R/S/E.

groudonlover
October 10th, 2008, 05:06 PM
I KNOW!
I just gave an example of a weak Pokeball, and no, you DON'T need a Masterball, but he has a 3 out of ethier 500 or 1000, i don't know which.........

BlueEew
October 10th, 2008, 06:40 PM
I am finding it really tough to catch mewtwo in firered. I used my masterball on entei, so I just have ultra and great balls. So far I use a gloom to paralyse it then get its health down to red and chuck balls at it. Usually I end up killing it, but the last battle was pretty immense and I exhausted it's moves and eventually it struggled itself to death :( What's the most effective status problem I can give it? and is it true that I can get timer balls somewhere in the game? They would help a lot! Any help would be greatfully appreciated :D x

I was the same with my latest FireRed (I have multiple copies). However I still had the Master Ball. I was putting it to sleep and paralyzing it. No joy. In the end I got so tired of trying I used PokeBalls whilest it had full health.

Not too long after I finally got it in a PokeBall and it had full Health. :)

Saphira's Rider
October 10th, 2008, 10:33 PM
Sleep, False Swipe and Timer/Poke balls. That's all you need. I'm starting again on my FR because I used AR on it and I had a Pidgeot at lvl 40 before 1 badge! Anyway, Mewtwo is tricky with 3 - 1000 chance of catching him unless MB is used.

Hair_of_the_Dawn
October 11th, 2008, 02:04 AM
If I had no Master Ball, I would likely use Sleepy then Endeavor. The Recover is what scares me. But that would be why Encoring its use at full health, followed by Spite does so much.

As for Timer Balls, aren't they on Two Island? I suppose the Sleep to the turn count, then Paralysis for security would work, but I usually use my MB on Mewtwo only.

Too bad Dusk Balls aren't in GBA...

groudonlover
October 11th, 2008, 07:09 AM
You could use Taunt to stop him from using Recover or Safeguarrd, as both would ruin your chances of catching it...
Then just throw balls at it!
I threw my MB at it, before i knew of Entei.
Luckily i have a Cheating Friend, so he sent me a lvl 100 Banette with a MB!

t w e n t y - t w o .
October 11th, 2008, 07:19 AM
3/1000? really?
wow, I'd just lob hundreds of ultra balls at him...

Kozoi
October 11th, 2008, 12:24 PM
Now, i caught this on my sixth ultra ball.

Sleep powder is most likely the best move to use so it cannot use recover, then lob ultraballs like your life depended on it. I'd reccomend bringing about 50 ultraballs.

If you are unlucky with capturing it then restart your game and start again, you WILL need your master ball for the wild dog as it runs. But you could use mean look to entrap it then capture it with ultras, your choice.

Kayashi
October 11th, 2008, 12:46 PM
Now, i caught this on my sixth ultra ball.

Sleep powder is most likely the best move to use so it cannot use recover, then lob ultraballs like your life depended on it. I'd reccomend bringing about 50 ultraballs.The Timer Ball is twice as strong as the Ultra Ball after waiting 30+ turns. Therefore, the Timer Ball is the preferred option. You can simply recover stall Mewtwo, which will leave it unable to recover by the 30 turn mark. Then, False Swipe it down to 1HP, put it to sleep, and chuck Timer Balls.

katonic
October 11th, 2008, 07:01 PM
hey, i finally caught it! i got some timer balls, then used those about 30ish turns in and caught it on very low hp (you know in firered when you think you've ko'd a poke but it just has a sliver of red you can hardly see? it was like that but i didn't have a poke with false swipe so it was just a lucky hit) and no status problems! i kept putting it to sleep but it would always wake up within 3 turns and i hadn't got the hp low enough while it was asleep. but i finally have it and have already transferred it to my diamond game, now i have 463 pokemon, only 30 left to collect....

MrsMime
October 11th, 2008, 08:12 PM
Woohoo right on! Lucky hit, man.

Vance
October 12th, 2008, 09:02 AM
I personally just hit him with semi-powerful attacks and then sleep him. Pretty basic strategy, especially the spamming of my ultra balls.

groudonlover
October 12th, 2008, 09:11 PM
You can catch Marowak's on Victory Road with False Swipe
And a Substitute will work great here, so it can take the hit when it wake up so you can put it to sleep again.

MrsMime
October 13th, 2008, 03:24 AM
You can catch Marowak's on Victory Road with False Swipe
And a Substitute will work great here, so it can take the hit when it wake up so you can put it to sleep again.
Yeah that's a good tactic. Just throw out your HM slave or something as a scapegoat. XD