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God
October 8th, 2008, 05:51 PM
Yes, I have a reason for the title. PETA is basically urging for Ben & Jerrys to replace thier cows milk, with... breast milk. Or at least 75% of it.

This morning, PETA dispatched a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of ice cream icon Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace the cow's milk in their products with human breast milk. PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves. PETA points out to Cohen and Greenfield that such a move on their part would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health at the same time.
Basicaly, shut-up PETA. So, PETA once again overeacts to a somewhat scary decision of a resturant owner, making them go to big companies in order to follow his lead.
Thats going to put huge stress on mothers, in many ways. Have they considered feeding of babies, the stress, the mental stress and the biggy: How are they going to produce it? By lining them up and putting suction cups on the breasts, and basicaly sucking it out? Or are they going to send a milkman and make the mothers squeeze it out, into little milk jars?
Sheesh, go to Hilliary Swank for that. [/thankyoufamilyguy]


"The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk."

I had to point that out.
Anyway, they say that milk coming from a cow is meant for a baby cow. Thats exactly the same for human children. They can't risk the life of a human, for a cow right? A baby human. And possibly vice versa, but i'm sticking up for the human here.

PETA's letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield follows.
September 23, 2008

Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, Cofounders
Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc.

Dear Mr. Cohen and Mr. Greenfield,

On behalf of PETA and our more than 2 million members and supporters, I'd like to bring your attention to an innovative new idea from Switzerland that would bring a unique twist to Ben and Jerry's. Storchen restaurant is set to unveil a menu that includes soups, stews, and sauces made with at least 75 percent breast milk procured from human donors who are paid in exchange for their milk. If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers--and cows--would reap the benefits.

Using cow's milk for your ice cream is a hazard to your customer's health. Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer. The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it may play a role in anemia, allergies, and juvenile diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease--America's number one cause of death.

Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.

And of course, the veal industry could not survive without the dairy industry. Because male calves can't produce milk, dairy farmers take them from their mothers immediately after birth and sell them to veal farms, where they endure 14 to17 weeks of torment chained inside a crate so small that they can't even turn around.

The breast is best! Won't you give cows and their babies a break and our health a boost by switching from cow's milk to breast milk in Ben and Jerry's ice cream? Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Tracy Reiman
Executive Vice President
Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer.
SO does other foods, ma'am.

Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.

Hmm, I must admit thats a good point. But nevertheless, how would the stress on the breasts/nipple/woman be? Humans are more complicated.
And also, what if the women don't volunteer/sign-up?


And of course, the veal industry could not survive without the dairy industry. Because male calves can't produce milk, dairy farmers take them from their mothers immediately after birth and sell them to veal farms, where they endure 14 to17 weeks of torment chained inside a crate so small that they can't even turn around.
Thats a horrible mental image, por favor. But, you know @^E_^@$) painful it is for women to give birth? Checkmate.

http://www.peta.org/mc/NewsItem.asp?id=11993
^ Link tells all.

I heard of this a few days ago, and last night also on the radio, which generally everyone said with a big fat no, apart from a few other reasons such as:

Not unless they knew where it came from.
Unless it's manually done, then no. (O.o)
Introducing two new flavours, Boobsicle and Breastcream! ( the person won a prize for saying that)

And now, discuss.

Trainer Kat
October 8th, 2008, 06:00 PM
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If I weren't so familiar with the idiocy of PETA, I would think this were a joke.

That said, I'm not sure I'm comfortable consuming human breastmilk. D; I mean, sure, it's fine for babies, but...something about that just seems...gross.

sims796
October 8th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Bah. If I want my breast milk, I want it fresh from the baby moma's teets.

Srsly,WTF? I mean, the PETA needs to just be quiet. I don't care how they rationalize it. Anyone who's ever tasted breastmilk knows that this is a sick & disgusting idea. I mean, is their anything worse than going into the fridge, reaching for what you think to be a jar of canned (Carnation) milk, just to find out your cereal is ruined after the first bite?

Besides, used up cow burgers, made from 100% cows who can no longer produce milk is the best! I mean, srsly, splather some ketchup & call it a day.

Epic phail.

Lusankya
October 8th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Is this real, or is it some kind of weird hoax? =/ I don't see how a major organization can be that idiotic.

Zet
October 8th, 2008, 06:31 PM
it makes me wonder if PETA has been drinking breast milk all their life, which would explain most of their idiocy

txteclipse
October 8th, 2008, 06:35 PM
Wow. Just...wow. This is frankly absurd.

Spinor
October 8th, 2008, 06:42 PM
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Seriously. These guys have mental disorientations. I mean BREASTMILK!? Breastmilk is basically formed specialized for baby humans. Cow milk has a different natural formula that's much more healthier than breastmilk.


HA! Diabetes? If they think those breastmilk elves think they can stop me from drinking 3/4 litter of 2% milk a day. Then may lighting strike me in the leg while getting run over by a Ferrari immediately after a hole in one in Death Valley.

TRIFORCE89
October 8th, 2008, 07:49 PM
The KFC chicken breasts are too big and now this. I'm seeing a pattern with PETA. XD

Zennerick
October 8th, 2008, 08:26 PM
Srsly,WTF? I mean, the PETA needs to just be quiet. I don't care how they rationalize it. Anyone who's ever tasted breastmilk knows that this is a sick & disgusting idea.
I mean, is their anything worse than going into the fridge, reaching for what you think to be a jar of canned (Carnation) milk, just to find out your cereal is ruined after the first bite?

Hey, probably everyone here has tasted breakmilk. It's natural.
However, I don't think most humans above the ages of 1 will want this.
I know I don't.

I think PETA is full of gay vegetarian hippies, if you ask me. http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8908/grompbi7.gif

41victory
October 8th, 2008, 08:37 PM
Way to go Peta >.<
Lets go save some cows! WHOO!!!
No. Drink your own bodily fluids and keep me out of it. (Unless they were hot, and it was straight from the container if you know what I mean :P) I will now go kill a cow just for one hamburger slice then swiftly spit on its grave. Actually Id eat the rest... kinda hungry...
Peta is now almost as stupid as me.

Amachi
October 9th, 2008, 12:57 AM
I think out of spite we should all start drinking whale milk instead. Sure, it'll be a pain to retrieve and everyone will become even fatter, but we're being spiteful!

Zet
October 9th, 2008, 01:28 AM
I think out of spite we should all start drinking whale milk instead. Sure, it'll be a pain to retrieve and everyone will become even fatter, but we're being spiteful!

can we use the left over whale for whale oil?

Cassino
October 9th, 2008, 02:57 AM
Human milk does not have enough fat to curdle, so either way they're gonna have to mix it with another animal's if you want cheese.
Human milk does make more sense than cow milk (though personally I prefer goat milk), since we're humans, it's meant for us; cow milk is meant for cows.

Cows are also much cheaper since they don't demand a salary, the cost of human milking would far outstretch the income (and volunteers would be too few in number);
cows' milk is more nutritious, especially in the areas of fat and calcium (any food will apparently give you some combination the things stated in that letter);
in this age of femenism, no woman is going to tolerate being treated like a factory.
The bottom line is that human milk tastes horrible (I've tasted it personally only a few years ago, so I'm not just saying that), so even if they do get it off the ground who will be willing to buy it in any bulk? That seems to be something PETA is forgetting.

Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.
They like to use the word force a lot... firstly, there's nothing forceful about impregnating any animal every so often; secondly, so long as it's fed enough it'll have the nutrients to produce milk that much.
Turning them into burgers and soup at the end makes perfect sense, what the hell else are we supposed to do with a cow once's it's useless for milk?

sims796
October 9th, 2008, 05:38 AM
Hey, probably everyone here has tasted breakmilk. It's natural.
However, I don't think most humans above the ages of 1 will want this.
I know I don't.

I think PETA is full of gay vegitarian hippies, if you ask me. http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8908/grompbi7.gif

Yeah, I mean old enough to recognize it...I hate explaining the pawnchline.

Ghey vegetarian hippies...epic win.


This is obviously a ploy to garter attention to their clause, they don't honestly think it'll even be legal to do so. Notice how they put such detail into the treatment of animals. However, there are more logical methods, rather than their usual radical ways. All it does is gets me in the mood for a burger splathered in Butter Pecan.

Wulf
October 9th, 2008, 05:46 AM
I can imagine like a dirty little farm factory thing, with rows and rows of topless women, having pumps on their...chests...
Yeah, it's sickening, no, it's monsterous, they dare touch my favorite food and my favorite ice cream company...

Katnip
October 9th, 2008, 06:32 AM
I've heard of Peta saying weird stuff, but this takes the cake...
I first read about it in Time magazine and I thought, 'What? Is that a joke or something?'
I knew it wasn't. Honestly, I don't know how they can suggest that. Drinking or eating another woman's bodily fluids gives me a major gross-out.

What's next, using human skin for leather? Sounds like the kind of far-fetched thing Peta would go for, seeing that it's gross to the sane human population.

Motsuko Live
October 9th, 2008, 06:45 AM
Man kind has been drinking breast milk since... well, more or less the beginning of time. All these "issues" with cow milk obviously aren't affecting us to badly. I mean, c'mon... if a person can't drink cow milk, it called "Lactose Intolerance". Not "drink human breastmilk instead".

They've aleady attacked KFC, and for us of African descent, that means war. xD;

PETA needs to get something better to do than attack random companies.

Joey the Cockroach
October 9th, 2008, 06:46 AM
how sick. replacing cows milk with breast milk. wouldnt most people get diseases this way?

Sexycheese
October 9th, 2008, 06:49 AM
Ok................
Help............
That is freaky!

Gold warehouse
October 9th, 2008, 08:29 AM
Even if some people were willing to eat it, how many people would they actually get to provide their breast milk? Not many I bet; not to mention the diet and lifestyle of the person is going to affect the taste.

I can just imagine the conversation.

"So, who shall we annoy today?"
"Hmmm, ask Ben & Jerry's to use human breast milk for their ice cream?"
"LOL! ok that should be funny"

Metatron
October 9th, 2008, 09:01 AM
The KFC chicken breasts are too big and now this. I'm seeing a pattern with PETA. XD

Nah, see, I understand their whole stand on the "KFC-cruelty" thing a while back. That made sense to me. This, however, is legitimately the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

...Human breast-milk, huh? And I wonder, what lactating human-being would be willing to donate gallons of their own breast milk to be forcibly drained in order to make ice cream? And even so, cows produce more milk than humans anyways.

That and the fact that eating ice cream made from human breast milk is just y'know...totally effing gross.

PETA just lost what dwindling respect I have ever had for them.

Bludycomicsinc
October 9th, 2008, 09:04 AM
I rally hate what PETA is doing. This is starting to gross me out.

Lusankya
October 9th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Cows are also much cheaper since they don't demand a salary, the cost of human milking would far outstretch the income (and volunteers would be too few in number);
cows' milk is more nutritious, especially in the areas of fat and calcium (any food will apparently give you some combination the things stated in that letter);
in this age of femenism, no woman is going to tolerate being treated like a factory.
The bottom line is that human milk tastes horrible (I've tasted it personally only a few years ago, so I'm not just saying that), so even if they do get it off the ground who will be willing to buy it in any bulk? That seems to be something PETA is forgetting.


Let's not forget that cows produce a lot more milk than humans. Oh, and that they don't have to have just had a baby to produce milk.

Cassino
October 9th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Must say I'm amazed at how many people are disgusted at the notion of drinking our own race's milk.
Imagine if we did that through history, then it'd be like "eww cow's milk".

Ya srsly.

Lusankya
October 9th, 2008, 05:05 PM
Well, hardly anyone over the age of one drinks breastmilk for its food value.

sims796
October 9th, 2008, 05:12 PM
Well, hardly anyone over the age of one drinks breastmilk for its food value.

Wut? I don't see anything better than Ice Cream, made fresh from good ole' Lady juice.

This is obviously a ploy for attention. Made of EPIC PHAIL.

Amachi
October 9th, 2008, 10:01 PM
can we use the left over whale for whale oil?
I suppose once the whales get old we can kill them and utilise their corpses for meat and oil.

I really do want to try whale meat though :(
Must say I'm amazed at how many people are disgusted at the notion of drinking our own race's milk.
Imagine if we did that through history, then it'd be like "eww cow's milk".

Ya srsly.
Probably because it alludes to mothers and tit sucking, mostly the mothers part. I'm amazed that you're amazed, since most of us stopped breastfeeding years ago.

Since well, it should be kinda weird when you're no longer a baby, ya know?

Memory
October 10th, 2008, 08:40 AM
Hey I'm a ghey vegetarian hippie too
nosrsly. I'm pretty much vegan, actually. So don't make fun of us. ;__;

ANYWAY

Guys, think about this. Personally, I don't believe they're ACTUALLY serious.
They're trying to make a point of how selfish humans are. The life of a cow is worth that of a human's. If we're not willing to drink breast milk, which grosses a lot of people out, WHY should we drink cow milk? It's practically the same thing. One just comes from a different animal.

What they're trying to prove is that humans shouldn't be drinking milk at all. PETA may go extreme on a lot of things, but I DO NOT think they're serious about this.

I, too, don't believe that humans should be drinking milk from any animal. Including humans. After we're over the age of like, 1, of course.

Cassino
October 10th, 2008, 08:53 AM
Probably because it alludes to mothers and tit sucking, mostly the mothers part. I'm amazed that you're amazed, since most of us stopped breastfeeding years ago.

Since well, it should be kinda weird when you're no longer a baby, ya know?
We're not calves either.

I'm not in favour of PETA's notion at all but speaking from an objective viewpoint it'd make more logical sense if we drunk our own milk, since it's ours, cows' milk is theirs.

sims796
October 10th, 2008, 09:06 AM
Didn't I say that, like, three times already?

However, there is a huge difference between humans & cows. About a few dozen cernturies difference.The reason that cows lives aren't valued as much as humans is because we are on the top of the food chain. Yeah, I said it. We beat lions by a log shot. If they want that to change, they gotta start eating us. Like that one man eating cow story. I don't think that other animals value each other's lives, either. Maybe because they lax teh brane sellz, but that's how it is. We eat each other.

And there is a reason that cow's milk is more accepting than,say, rat's milk. I don't have all the details, but for one thing, it's healthier. It can be used i ways that other milk can't. Still, all around the world, milk is used from other animals, such as camels & buffalo (I thought all buffalo was male, like bulls). Blach Cherry flavored breastmilk doesn't have the same appeal. Besides, milk has been used since biblical times. no, I don't want a bunch of fags popping out of nowhere to say I'm worng for using he bible in an example, the smart will know that it is only an example to show how widely milk is accepted.

As Sarah Silverman said, "you think the guy who [discovered]milk was a genious?He just sucked at some cow's teets!". Or somethig like that, I got it wrong.

Still, this is all some pathetic ploy for attention, that makes me want a burger.

Brien
October 10th, 2008, 09:23 AM
PETA really doesnt think about their statements,

They just try to put in as many facts defending animals in the least amount of text, hopeing someone will think it actually makes sense.

I really wanna know how the deal with those mothers work out?

do they have to watch them give milk?

why couldnt they just fill a jar with cow milk and call it their own?

Hmm.

Lusankya
October 10th, 2008, 11:51 AM
Guys, think about this. Personally, I don't believe they're ACTUALLY serious.
They're trying to make a point of how selfish humans are. The life of a cow is worth that of a human's. If we're not willing to drink breast milk, which grosses a lot of people out, WHY should we drink cow milk? It's practically the same thing. One just comes from a different animal.

What they're trying to prove is that humans shouldn't be drinking milk at all. PETA may go extreme on a lot of things, but I DO NOT think they're serious about this.

I, too, don't believe that humans should be drinking milk from any animal. Including humans. After we're over the age of like, 1, of course.

Well, that's a matter of opinion. I personally don't think the life of a cow is worth anywhere near that of a human. And actually, milk from different animals has a very large difference in composition. Goat milk and cow milk taste very different. And so do, I'm sure, human milk and cow milk.

Amachi
October 10th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Hey I'm a ghey vegetarian hippie too
nosrsly. I'm pretty much vegan, actually. So don't make fun of us. ;__;

ANYWAY

Guys, think about this. Personally, I don't believe they're ACTUALLY serious.
They're trying to make a point of how selfish humans are. The life of a cow is worth that of a human's. If we're not willing to drink breast milk, which grosses a lot of people out, WHY should we drink cow milk? It's practically the same thing. One just comes from a different animal.

What they're trying to prove is that humans shouldn't be drinking milk at all. PETA may go extreme on a lot of things, but I DO NOT think they're serious about this.

I, too, don't believe that humans should be drinking milk from any animal. Including humans. After we're over the age of like, 1, of course.
No, PETA only care about the animals, not people. I'm sure they wouldn't care if we became a race of cannibals just so long as the animals were safe.