Pokemon: Wisteria

[~Red]

Okay, you've probably been wondering where I have been for the last 6 months. You may have noticed that Pokemon: Hokum Trilogy has been discontinued due to lack of support and help. That isn't anyone's fault it's just GBA hacks are more "wanted". This is exactly the reason why I have been working on a hack behind the scenes. I didn't want anybody involved. I'm not going to give too much away either just a few details so you can get a rough view of what I hope for.

Introduction
On my second run through Pokemon Brown, it got me thinking. Hacking. Where did it all start? I looked through my drawers of stuff I used to make when I was younger and pulled out a small cardboard box. Inside was tons of paper drawings of fake pokemon, maps of towns and cities that dont exist, scrap paper of storylines and plots. I hadnt opened this box since I was 8 years old.
I set to work...

Version
Pokemon Red - Yes, I've gone totally old school.

Plot
The scene is set at the same time as Brown and Red's storys occur. A young female who lives on Obst Island is late for her school. She quickly rushes from Möhre Town - Where she lives - to Erdbeer Village. As she enters the village she is stopped by a schoolfriend called [Rival's name]. They quickly run to the school to pick up their Pokedex and their first Pokemon. When they get there they are confronted by an angry teacher called Miss Blume.
The story unfolds from there...

Features

-Catch 201 Pokemon
I'm hoping to add in new breeds of Pokemon and different kinds, e.g. There will be 2 types of Pikachu.

-Every map has changed
I want this hack to be a complete overhaul. I want to throw the player into a new world!

-All text is changed
This is needed for the story.

-New tiles
I've added new tiles which are a mix of my own and some ripped from Firered and Ruby.

-A visit to a personal favourite region
Let's just say Brown/Prism fans will be happy.

-Slight Music Change
I've changed some of the music in the game. It will become obvious when you start a new game hehe.

Old Screenshots
http://i35.tinypic.com/1z69rhu.png

New Screenshots
http://i34.tinypic.com/2vkb71u.pnghttp://i33.tinypic.com/2wftp95.pnghttp://i34.tinypic.com/mhy428.pnghttp://i37.tinypic.com/15p028y.pnghttp://i37.tinypic.com/2eltgxt.pnghttp://i38.tinypic.com/1yk9j4.pnghttp://i34.tinypic.com/e5sdy0.png

Download
Check attatchment.

Status
Maps - 20%
Events - 10%
Wild Pokemon Data - 2%
Overall Status - 10.6%

Support
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/halowizard11/X.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4078909)
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/halowizard11/X.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4078909)

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm390/popetaffy/wisteriabar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4088771)
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm390/popetaffy/wisteriabar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4088771)

Credit
Me
Myself
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[EJames2100]

woah a Pokemon Red hack, I haven't seen many of these O.o

Good Luck with it though :)

[Zeikku™]

Very nice, I like the new screens :)
Nice use of "familiar" tiles XD

[~Red]

woah a Pokemon Red hack, I haven't seen many of these O.o

Good Luck with it though :)

Hehe. I wanted a challenge. It's challenging for two reasons:

1. Not many tools for it.
2. You use alot of HEX and ASM.
3. Not many people like it so popularity will fail.


Hehe, glad it made the showcase, you can see the previouse thread in Scrapbox (admins lock it please).

[~Red]

the trees + mini tree looks like from r/s/e or is that just me .
well the screenshots look great !
good luck .

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!! Finally someone noticed XD.

Hehe. Yes, they are from R/S/E ;)

Thanks for the comment.

Anyone going to play the BETA?

[Bibliophibian]

congrats on getting moved to the showcase. :3

i love the look of the new trees, and once more, best of luck.

[Hiche..]

Wow, in the Hacks Showcase already? That's great! I hope you finish this unique hack.
Good luck.

[Pokemoncutie]

I'm playing the beta and I was wondering how to jump over the rocks? BTW the beta's awesome!^_^

[~Red]

I'm playing the beta and I was wondering how to jump over the rocks? BTW the beta's awesome!^_^

Only some parts of the rocks are jumpable. It's kinda hard to explain hehe.

Update: Fixed all the text errors that were in the Beta and I've mapped out Apfel Town and Route 2. I'm going to give you a surprise next update...




Also, anyone want to make some support banners?

[Swampert 22]

Mate, this is sweet, I shall definately play the beta. I always support old school hacking, so keep it up!

[PokémonShinySilver]

I haven't seen many hacks that use Pokémon Red as a ROM base.
Anyway, I was wondering. Who made the tiles? Because they look quite nice. :P
Good luck with it!

[~Red]

I haven't seen many hacks that use Pokémon Red as a ROM base.
Anyway, I was wondering. Who made the tiles? Because they look quite nice. :P
Good luck with it!

I ripped them from Pokemon Ruby and Gold. The tree was edited slightly so that it would fit into the tileset.

[Mitchman]

You makde me thing oh no dont tell me hes joining the mass of gba hackers due to demand. Then i saw the red part and i twitched. Wth hell is he complaining bout if he jumped a generation. Then i saw the r/s/e tiled trees and i snapped it in my brain. heb is using red as a rom base with semi gba graphix to please everyone. Frikin ace mate! Good luck on this wonderfull hack!

[~Red]

You makde me thing oh no dont tell me hes joining the mass of gba hackers due to demand. Then i saw the red part and i twitched. Wth hell is he complaining bout if he jumped a generation. Then i saw the r/s/e tiled trees and i snapped it in my brain. heb is using red as a rom base with semi gba graphix to please everyone. Frikin ace mate! Good luck on this wonderfull hack!

Wow! Nice comment! Thanks for the luck ;)

The big update I was talking about will surprise you even more (hehe).

[Mitchman]

Cool cool. You do know who this is right?(my initials are DC_93)

[Pokemoncutie]

What's the button combo to press to jump over the rocks?

[sab]

good hack I haven't seen many red or blue hacks being worked on.

[Mr. Magius]

Hey this Red hack looks great, ashandmisty.
You know I support this... like I support all old generation hacks.

Wisteria sounds like a nice name.

[halowizard]

Here I made a banner for you:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/halowizard11/X.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4078909)
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/halowizard11/X.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4078909)


Btw I tried the beta and I couldn't stop playing!
I love 1st and 2nd gen. hacks! Great work!

[~Red]

Cool cool. You do know who this is right?(my initials are DC_93)
hmm...rings a bell!! Not sure though...

What's the button combo to press to jump over the rocks?
There is no button combo. Just simply walk into it like you hop over ledges. Only some rocks you can hop over ;)

good hack I haven't seen many red or blue hacks being worked on.
That's why I wanted to make it. To have a challenge, hacking and popularity wise.

Hey this Red hack looks great, ashandmisty.
You know I support this... like I support all old generation hacks.

Wisteria sounds like a nice name.
I'm glad you do! I'm thinking about going with Wisteria now ;) but ill leave it for a month to see how the poll is doing.

Here I made a banner for you:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/halowizard11/X.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4078909)
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/halowizard11/X.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4078909)


Btw I tried the beta and I couldn't stop playing!
I love 1st and 2nd gen. hacks! Great work!

Wow! Thanks! I'll add the support banner thingy to first post. I'm glad you like it so much!

Ok, this isn't the big update I was talking about, this is just a small update. I want you're opinion. Should I include a map from Rijon or Beta Johto?

[Ninja Caterpie]

Rijon'll have to ask CBM for, I'd think? Beta Johto sounds...bland. Go for Rijon, I guess..?

Gotta love this, ashandmisty. :D

[~Red]

Rijon'll have to ask CBM for, I'd think? Beta Johto sounds...bland. Go for Rijon, I guess..?

Gotta love this, ashandmisty. :D

I already have rights for Rijon, don't worry about that ;)

[~Red]

I have decided upon a name!! Pokemon Wisteria!!

Can a moderator please remove the poll and change the title of the thread...

[torferno lvl-X]

Sweet, I tend to like old school games more cause they bring back memories and because they require extra work newbie hackers don'\'t attempt at making them. There are so many tools around today so bad hackers attempt at starting a game, then fail. But there are other hackers I like such as punder_zeikku, Zel, Time and Haruki hanakai.

But my favourites are still All gold/silver/yellow/blue/red hacks.


So in short that message says Good Luck!

[~Red]

Sweet, I tend to like old school games more cause they bring back memories and because they require extra work newbie hackers don'\'t attempt at making them. There are so many tools around today so bad hackers attempt at starting a game, then fail. But there are other hackers I like such as punder_zeikku, Zel, Time and Haruki hanakai.

But my favourites are still All gold/silver/yellow/blue/red hacks.


So in short that message says Good Luck!

Hey dude thanks!! ;)

I love old school hacks too.

[Black Charizard.]

Cool red hack not seen many and your going to make one good job.

[~Red]

Cool red hack not seen many and your going to make one good job.

Thanks pachel!!

I'm glad lots of people like it..

[Bibliophibian]

well, i got some time, so i decided i would try making a userbar.
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm390/popetaffy/wisteriabar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4088771)

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm390/popetaffy/wisteriabar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=4088771)
(also, if you change the starters, i'll change this around, but these were the starters in the beta, so i put them on.)
hope everything is going well. :3

[~Red]

Thanks!!! I'll add that to the first post too. That is pretty nice!

[Sarcastic Prince]

This the best Red Hack besides Brown.

Wish you good luck to finish this!!

[~Red]

This the best Red Hack besides Brown.

Wish you good luck to finish this!!

I'm glad you've said this because the whole idea was to create a hack that was just like Brown. Coolboyman is my idol ;)

[torferno lvl-X]

For some reason Old school hacks tend to be going up in popularity now Theory:

Old Gen hacks were popular in their time but not many people knew about them.

Then new hacks come along with graphic enhancemants and when new people join to do rom hacking they are n00bs and only play GBA games ' cause of their "better graphics" (Sadly that includes me:()

To many bad hacks come along due to tools making life easier and people have a minor idea and start makind "spam threads" with bad hacks. So people who get bored of these say " I'm bored. Oh, I might as well play prism (or other gbc/gb hack.) ..... few hours pass... "OMG these hacks rock!"

And that is my theory.

Oh and I'm trying ou wisteria now and it rocks.

[~Red]

For some reason Old school hacks tend to be going up in popularity now Theory:

Old Gen hacks were popular in their time but not many people knew about them.

Then new hacks come along with graphic enhancemants and when new people join to do rom hacking they are n00bs and only play GBA games ' cause of their "better graphics" (Sadly that includes me:()

To many bad hacks come along due to tools making life easier and people have a minor idea and start makind "spam threads" with bad hacks. So people who get bored of these say " I'm bored. Oh, I might as well play prism (or other gbc/gb hack.) ..... few hours pass... "OMG these hacks rock!"

And that is my theory.

Oh and I'm trying ou wisteria now and it rocks.

That's exactly what I think!! Pity, seeing as I have put the work in...

Update: Big update coming soon!! I'm on a school comp at the moment so I can't really show you...

I found the wapr data for Diglet's cave and a route gate so i can continue work on the big update i wish to show you...

[Heart's Soul]

I love RGBY and GSC hacks because they run on my DS! Also, this is a hack that I do NOT like. Why? There are too many glitches in it and when I gave my rival the parcel, it shot out 35 pokemon cries (Bulbasaur, Ivysaur-Charizard mix, Dratini twice, Missingno., etc.) and then started going nuts on me. I ignored the text glitches but that is too far. Hope you beta tested it.

[~Red]

I love RGBY and GSC hacks because they run on my DS! Also, this is a hack that I do NOT like. Why? There are too many glitches in it and when I gave my rival the parcel, it shot out 35 pokemon cries (Bulbasaur, Ivysaur-Charizard mix, Dratini twice, Missingno., etc.) and then started going nuts on me. I ignored the text glitches but that is too far. Hope you beta tested it.

You haven't been reading tha thread have you? I have fixed all them glitches for next beta XP

Don't you start flaming me without searching, also, what rom are you using? Because when I give the rival the parcel it just makes a glitched up "you recieved X" noise that lasts the same length as the normal noise.

[ARCoolguy]

should i make a suggestion not many people nowadays try out hacks of the GBC games

[~Red]

should i make a suggestion not many people nowadays try out hacks of the GBC games

I'm not sure how I should take this comment...

Many people will like my game I'm sure, If you liked Pokemon Brown, then I'm sure you'll like Pokemon Wisteria.

[Mr. Magius]

Many people will like my game I'm sure, If you liked Pokemon Brown, then I'm sure you'll like Pokemon Wisteria.Yes... with most RBY/GSC hacks you can enjoy them the same amount... only if it doesn't have too much glitches. ;)
I like this game a lot. I hope to see that update you are planning. :)

[~Red]

Yes... with most RBY/GSC hacks you can enjoy them the same amount... only if it doesn't have too much glitches. ;)
I like this game a lot. I hope to see that update you are planning. :)

I'm trying to create suspense with the delay, impatience, fury, anger, death and destruction...maybe a little too far. But let's just say the update is coming sometime today...

[torferno lvl-X]

should i make a suggestion not many people nowadays try out hacks of the GBC games

Most of the best hacks out there are Prism,Brown,Cobalt,Wisteria and team rocket edition. Why? Beacause gbc/gb hackers aren't n00bs using tools, there pros using there brains. I've played so many bad gba hacks that i can't be bothered to try out new ones.

[Heart's Soul]

You haven't been reading tha thread have you? I have fixed all them glitches for next beta XP

Don't you start flaming me without searching, also, what rom are you using? Because when I give the rival the parcel it just makes a glitched up "you recieved X" noise that lasts the same length as the normal noise.

I am using Pokemon Red (U) for it on my DS. Both sounds are long and hope to see the next beta be better.

[~Red]

Here is the mega update. Sorry it isn't so mega, I couldnt take many screenshots because my computer is lagging.

http://i38.tinypic.com/1yk9j4.png

http://i34.tinypic.com/e5sdy0.png


See if you can guess what region I am in...

[Mr. Magius]

http://i38.tinypic.com/1yk9j4.png

http://i34.tinypic.com/e5sdy0.png

See if you can guess what region I am in...Hey it looks really good hehe. Nice new update ashandmisty.

I will guess that it is in Kanto. xD

[Heart's Soul]

Here is the mega update. Sorry it isn't so mega, I couldnt take many screenshots because my computer is lagging.

http://i38.tinypic.com/1yk9j4.png

http://i34.tinypic.com/e5sdy0.png


See if you can guess what region I am in...

Kanto, no doubt. I like this hack, due to it being a RGBYGSC hack. You don't see those too much.

[~Red]

Kanto, no doubt. I like this hack, due to it being a RGBYGSC hack. You don't see those too much.

There will be a reason you visit Kanto later on in the game. Did I also forget to say that this game will be ALOT harder than Red (maybe even harder than Brown).

[torferno lvl-X]

To keep this thread going:
You know you said that you would have 201 pokemon, well. will you only add new forms or also new pokemon from johto, hoenn, sinnoh etc.

[~Red]

To keep this thread going:
You know you said that you would have 201 pokemon, well. will you only add new forms or also new pokemon from johto, hoenn, sinnoh etc.

Unfortunatley, (and I cannot tell a lie) I do not know ASM or how the decompression of pokemon graphics in RGBY work so, if i wanted to add in new Pokemon, I would need someone to add in the pokemon pictures for me. With the 201 Pokemon I was planning on adding maybe new breeds of Pokemon that could cover up the Missingno. slots. I know how to do it, it's time consuming but i could do it. They will still have glitchy cries though ;) .

I have been researching about 'M and I might be able to delete him too so that the Old Man glitch wont work. Or I could just move the Old Man to a route or something where wild Pokemon data exists. Trust me, I will think of something.

[poddish]

for the map question, you should include rijon because there are (or will be soon) a few hacks with some (or most) of beta johto, and rijon is only in the rijon trilogy. But if you have space near the end of the hack, include beta johto too.

for adding new pokemon, may I suggest asking cbm about it. I saw on youtube that brown will (or already) have all the johto pokemon,so he could tell you how to insert them, and repoint the trainers, so you have more space for pokemon. Oh and if you run out of room, you can expand it out to 16 bits (as of now) to get more, well, room.

[torferno lvl-X]

Yeah, that would be cool. And also AshandMisty said that Rijon or Naljo will be included.

P.S. Will you change the overworlds, to look more original or will you keep them as they are?

[~Red]

Can I just say something: THIS HACK IS NOT DEAD. Hehe. Ok, so where to start? My laptop is busted BUT (don't get so disappointed please) I backed up Wisteria on a disc (yahoo!)

When I get a new computer I can start work on Wisteria again. Feel free to comment, I'm also looking for fresh new ideas for maps and things.

Yeah, that would be cool. And also AshandMisty said that Rijon or Naljo will be included.

P.S. Will you change the overworlds, to look more original or will you keep them as they are?

I may keep the overworld as it is. The idea was that the original game was very sexist (even though I am a male) I thought it would be alright to give the girls a chance. You play as a Lass instead. I play many games when you play as a girl e.g. Tomb Raider and Age of Time. Usually, games with males are all action and fast-paced while games with a female lead have more storyline and emotion. But that's just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

[crumpton]

Great news! Now I can anticipate more!

[manomow]

So, this game is just a hack made of ideas you made for fake pokemon games before you started to hack?

[BaalASystemLord]

I like the idea of this game, but I can't get it to play. I downloaded the IPS file from the first message and patched a copy of the same ROM I used for Pokemon Brown, so I know the ROM is OK. I didn't see any other files in this thread for Wisteria. Where is the file everyone else is using? I really do want to try out this game more.

I noticed several glitches and some things that would make the game better if changed.

First, the glitches.

-I talk to Mom and there are some lines of blank text at the end of her message.
-I get the sample from the Pokemon Mart worker and get the "I like shorts" line and part of the Oak's parcel text written over top of what he should be saying.
-The girl in the lower part of the school is sometimes inside the bookcase instead of in front of it. She also has her original text referring to Professor Oak instead of saying something about the school or Miss Green.
-Miss Green has several glitchy sets of text. When she picks up the starter pokemon, it says "Miss Green took. ERROR 14."
-The move Growl does damage. That's not good since there are many reasons to have non-damaging moves like Growl.
-When I give the rival his parcel, the game freezes with a bunch of random pokemon cries and battle noises then keeps rewriting the same bit of text over again. This makes it so I can't play because I can't give the parcel to the rival and then have the sleeping old man wake up and get out of my way. I also can't buy any Pokeballs until the parcel is delivered.
-The sign for the school says "Pokemon Private School" when I read it, then the "P" in the word "Private" changes to an x.

Now for my suggestions for improving this game and making it more Wisteria than Red. I don't know if any of these changes have already been made. I'm not trying to flame this game or the creator, I'm just going with the only version I have.

-The title screen still says "Red". It should say "Wisteria". I know it shows a girl there, but if you put the name of your hack there, it just looks better.
-When you select the player name, the default names to choose from and the sprite are all male. Since you play as a girl, those names and sprite should be female.
-When I got into the first battle at the school both sprites where those from Red and it shows my rival's name as who I'm battling. To go along with the story of this game, they should have both been female sprites because it is a girl player fighting Miss Green.
-The map inside the rival's sister's house is the original one from Red. You've obviously changed the layout of the routes, so the maps should reflect that so players know where they are.
-The parcel you are supposed to give to your rival is still named "Oak's Parcel" in the items list. I don't know if it's possible to make that line recognize whatever players name their rival, so it should at least be renamed to show "Rival's Parcel" in the items list.
-The rival's sister still has her original text from Red. She should be talking about her brother being at the school.

[~Red]

Ugh, sorry guys but I backed up the wrong file. I'm gonna continue from the BETA. I had fixed all those glitches you mentioned Baal, and the titlescreen thing is just because I cannot find it in TLP :p

On a lighter note, ive redone the tree tiles so they look more like advance. I'm not ready to show yet though.