Internet Predicted to Melt Down by Mid-day

[Ryoutarou]

Given a few news articles as of late, I will like to arm that is is not a joke when i am talking about e-terrorists that could attack certian websites including message boards, and I thought that you guys may need to read this because it could be most important,

Via - http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?date=2004-08-24

"You should probably starting backing up that gig of gmail to local storage. According to a Russian news site, Kaspersky Labs states that terrorists will launch attacks which will paralyze the Internet this Thursday. This tragically coincides with two weeks of script kiddie attacks (which were scheduled to begin this past Sunday) aimed at disrupting the Republican national convention. In addition, many college students are back on campus this week, which provides the e-terrorists and i-subversives with a veritable candyland of insecure boxes on big pipes. Faced with this triple threat, our beloved Internet will surely fall. The ISC would like to go out on a limb and predict that the Internet will not vaporize into a cloud of nothingness this Thursday, but if it does, it's been our pleasure to help stave off its inevitable annihilation this long."

So I hope that you are able to be alerted about this.

[oni flygon]

I don't think this will happen. Why? It's already Thursday and it's 10:49 PM ...nope...nothing in the news here... O_O

[Ryoutarou]

Next thursday...should have said that sorry.

[Blaze]

The internet crash?

Blue do you have any idea how protected that thing will be (and the internet) there is almost no way it will be that hard hit actually it's quite impossible. Yes college students are coming back but now with how fast they find a solution to these trojans and stuff i hardly think it will get that bad.

I shall go on though to check since I am very headstrong and skeptical XD

[Ryoutarou]

The internet crash?

Blue do you have any idea how protected that thing will be (and the internet) there is almost no way it will be that hard hit actually it's quite impossible. Yes college students are coming back but now with how fast they find a solution to these trojans and stuff i hardly think it will get that bad.

I shall go on though to check since I am very headstrong and skeptical XD
These arent college students, these are well known hackers. Hmm, just noticed something this was sent out the same day that thoese two planes in Russia crashed...

[Blaze]

yes that is true but they believe it now sent out a hijack signal right before so I wouldn't call it that yet....

but something strange really is going on... I agree with you on that

[Ryoutarou]

yes that is true but they believe it now sent out a hijack signal right before so I wouldn't call it that yet....

but something strange really is going on... I agree with you on that
Hmm, airplaines go missing in Russia then crash...then the explosion in Paris today...now this...kinda starting to freak me out a bit.

I do belive it will be semi-hard for these guys to do this, but if they truley are the starters of the kiddie virus then I would expect something bad from them. I mean, it's not impossible... a few years ago (around 1998-2000) Sprint accidentally cut through an old DARPANET cable, and it messed up the internet from New York to Virginia.

[Blaze]

omg what happened in Paris?

this is starting to get really freaky *slowly reminds self to move to canada and take down all my bush banners and get a canadian accent

ok i think im ready.....

[Ryoutarou]

omg what happened in Paris?

this is starting to get really freaky *slowly reminds self to move to canada and take down all my bush banners and get a canadian accent

ok i think im ready.....
A chemical factory blew up today.

[Blaze]

uh oh what kind? And it was in paris? and was anyone killed....

[Gr8person62.2]

Um....... no. Not gonna happen. Maybe you should get a clear idea of how the intenet works first, then come to the conclusion that the internet can't be "crashed". It just doesnt wor that way. You can screw up parts of it, but it'll work elsewhere.

Also, about your plane crashes and blown up factories -- No company is stupid enough to give access to anything physical within the company by internet connection. If it blew up, someone did it maually, no hacking involved.

Don't fear this article, it's just "one of those things". It'll blow over in a day. OR! That whole article was bullcrap. I persnally don't believe it... dunno if you do.

[Ryoutarou]

Um....... no. Not gonna happen. Maybe you should get a clear idea of how the intenet works first, then come to the conclusion that the internet can't be "crashed". It just doesnt wor that way. You can screw up parts of it, but it'll work elsewhere.

Also, about your plane crashes and blown up factories -- No company is stupid enough to give access to anything physical within the company by internet connection. If it blew up, someone did it maually, no hacking involved.

Don't fear this article, it's just "one of those things". It'll blow over in a day. OR! That whole article was bullcrap. I persnally don't believe it... dunno if you do.
I do becuse this is also the group claiming that they messed with the guidence system on the two plaines. I know the net has all that back up stuff, but they did make the kiddie virus so dont put anything pass them.

[Koroku]

All this over unpatched IE holes? I doubt it.

And if you're that worried, http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox

[aaaaaa]

The main problem with this claim, is that the only way to truely undermine the Internet is the kill the Primary Domain Name Servers.
No DNS, No-one goes anywhere without IP# themselves.
The problem with this of course, is that these Primary DNS Servers are home to some incredibly fat pipes and I don't think it's possible to DoS something like that.
Their sole purpose is to be HAMMERED all day, everyday, and not to fail.
And they won't.
Silly media.

[John Denver]

The main problem with this claim, is that the only way to truely undermine the Internet is the kill the Primary Domain Name Servers.
No DNS, No-one goes anywhere without IP# themselves.
The problem with this of course, is that these Primary DNS Servers are home to some incredibly fat pipes and I don't think it's possible to DoS something like that.
Their sole purpose is to be HAMMERED all day, everyday, and not to fail.
And they won't.
Silly media.

I really have no idea as to what you just said but I'll go with it! Silly media.

BOO ya!

[Koroku]

She's saying that the place where all the important stuff that says where the internet is located is very hard to hack.

[Eliana]

What? but that would be impossible....you cant crash the whole internet....there are countless of sites....

[PichuSecretBase]

Aren't they just trying to hack soem government thing to blow something up?

[Eliana]

Well I doubt you can blow something up from the net....yes the net CAN do many things but not that...XD

[Koroku]

What? but that would be impossible....you cant crash the whole internet....there are countless of sites....
Wipe the primary DNS servers could do some damage.

[Gr8person62.2]

Those DNS servers have the info about where you can connect to a computer. If your ISP's DNS can't find a site, it'll ask those for 'em. But if they're down, then no IP Address forwarding, hence, you cannot connect to other computers.

As a1337a said, to bring those powerfull machines down would be nearly impossible... that is unless you go to it and start throwing rocks at it... that might just work.

[Eliana]

Hmmmm could we fix it if it does happen?

[Gr8person62.2]

Yes. It's very fixable. It'll only take a few minutes till everything reboots. Pfft, bring down the internet. I'd love to see the day that happens.

[Eliana]

Well if we can fix it whats their point in crashing it? *laugh* XD people these days...lol

[Imakuni?]

im prepaired. i am updating windows, norton and getting a firewall. i have my website backed up and a m prepared for the worst!

[Dizzy]

I just saw the word "Paris" a few posts ago :(...Anyone touches my homeland and I will blow them up. One more time so blue doesn't have to say it again: NEXT THURSDAY.

If this is going to be something like 'Y2K' then wow......wow..

[Missingno Baby]

I'm scared....I don't want the net to die!! How long will it take to fix?

puni puni~

[Avatar]

Most of this sounds way to ridiculous to even belive, i'd like to know how they would plan to crash the internet as the machines can withstand a whole LOT of attacks, I doubt that it will go down anytime soon.

[Missingno Baby]

blue doesn't lie....I hope you know that...Avatar.

puni puni~

[Ryoutarou]

Most of this sounds way to ridiculous to even belive, i'd like to know how they would plan to crash the internet as the machines can withstand a whole LOT of attacks, I doubt that it will go down anytime soon.
They plan to make a new version of the kiddie virus. This group allready killed 89 people on thoese airplaines in Russia. Like I said some group was claimng to have put bombs on board and to have messed with the plaines guidence system.

[Missingno Baby]

That's really scary....*doesn't like computer* it's spooking me out, now...

puni puni~

[aaaaaa]

Okay.
Lamens terms.
The only way to bring the internet to a grinding halt is to attack it's foundations directly. There's only one real foundation to the internet, and thats upon which the entire infrastructure relies on.
The Primary Domain Name Servers. I think there are...8 of them, at the moment.
Now, forget about 'hacking'. That is so 1980's. You want to kill a server in todays world, you basically send it so much data that it crashes. We call this a DoS (Denial of Service) or a DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack.
Obviously, you need to have far more bandwidth on your end, than the target system.
For a site like Yahoo, or Google, or even Microsoft, this IS possible, with enough PC's.
But you have to remember, the Primary DNS Servers are made for the sole purpose of being hit with data around the clock. There's simply no way to DoS them into crashing.

[Ryoutarou]

Well I got this from a Russian newspaper:
"We don't know who is behind these statements" calling for attack, Kaspersky said in the statement on VirusList.com. He stressed that the trustworthiness of the digital call to arms could not be established. "It's not the first time the term 'electronic jihad' has been used. We've seen this before, with the focus being on sending racist emails, and defacing and hacking Israeli websites. Even it is a known fact that the leader of this group is a former member of T.A.N.S a russian E-extremist team there is a chance that this may all be false air. Given the reports of the Russian crash that went on this week and that this is the team behind it all threats must be met face on by the Russian gov."

SO, there is a chance that it may fall through, given that this new hackers group has a sub-section in all of the 13 big world countries. I wouldent put anything pass them. So if the full crash dosent happen I would expect sevreal servers to fail. From whatI heard TANS was the group that took down allmost half of Russia a few years ago.

[Avatar]

blue doesn't lie....I hope you know that...Avatar.

puni puni~
When did I ever say he lied?

They plan to make a new version of the kiddie virus. This group allready killed 89 people on thoese airplaines in Russia. Like I said some group was claimng to have put bombs on board and to have messed with the plaines guidence system.
A new version of the "kiddie virus" will not kill the internet.. if that were the case, somebody would have done that already.

[Pogiforce-14]

And to me this all soudns like pesimisitc dooms day hot air that won't rally happen. i'll expect to see you guys after thursday with the net still fully intact.

[Ryoutarou]

Well, looks like our little doom's day is over. The people behind this was acutally a group of college students trying to prove " The ignorence of a mass reliate world that will have no where to run once it's saftey is gone." They have acutally been arrested. The oldest of them was only 23. So what? These the hippies of our world? Ignorence of our dependent on the net and mass information? Wow these kids were dumb. Then again look at all the trouble this caused in Russia all this week.

[Avatar]

I suspected as much, it's usually a bunch of people that are around that age, coming with absurd reasons as to why they start these things in the first place.

[Ryoutarou]

I suspected as much, it's usually a bunch of people that are around that age, coming with absurd reasons as to why they start these things in the first place.
Though if you think about it is kinda true. Without Millanet ( the world wide milltary internet) most defense forces would be scrwed since just about all of the armed forces weapons divisons is run by computer.

[Avatar]

Though if you think about it is kinda true. Without Millanet ( the world wide milltary internet) most defense forces would be scrwed since just about all of the armed forces weapons divisons is run by computer.

Then again, why would we need all of that stuff to defend ourselves against all of the different countries that might try to attack us, are we really THAT afraid of ourselves as to take it to the extreme?

[aaaaaa]

You know if you guys had listened to me in the first place the fact that it's a hoax would have come as NO suprise to you.

[Avatar]

You know if you guys had listened to me in the first place the factr that it's a hoax would have come as NO suprise to you.

I actually did read your posts, however it was quite obvious that it was a hoax, EVEN without reading them.

[Ryoutarou]

You know if you guys had listened to me in the first place the factr that it's a hoax would have come as NO suprise to you.
We did listen, aside from all the technicall stuff the mentality of this is kinda disturbing. I'm over that it's not acutally going to happen, but the message it left behind... Now I feel kinda dumb becuse after I made this thread I acutally though that it would be kinda impossiable to take down millions of servers...

[Imakuni?]

let me make this perfectly clear. they did not take out those planes. there was explosives involved in the attacks. i watch the news. i would know

[Ryoutarou]

let me make this perfectly clear. they did not take out those planes. there was explosives involved in the attacks. i watch the news. i would know
Like I dont watch it? TANS was the group claimng they did it.

[Dizzy]

So this is like Y2k..its nothing but...a big piece of crap.

[DarknessMonkey]

If This Does Happen
I Will See...No...Talk...No...Ok!
I Will Not Be On Here For A While...
But I Doubt It Will...
Hey!
They Thought Another Attack Would Hit Last 2 September 11's But Did It?
NO!
So It'll Be Surprising If They Do...
*Wonders Of Getting Firewalls & Comp. Protection Programs...*
Huh...
Its Kinda Scaring Me...
Ahhh You Know What?
If They Hit PC I Will Protect...
(IF THEY HIT LOL)
Also If They Did Hit Dont Ban Me For Cussing...
(Cuz I Will...)

[Gr8person62.2]

So this is like Y2k..its nothing but...a big piece of crap.
Except the Y2K bug had some logic behind it. This is just ridicule.

[Ryoutarou]

Except the Y2K bug had some logic behind it. This is just ridicule.
Acutally Y2K had little logic behind it as well.

[Gr8person62.2]

Not really.... they claimed that internal clocks would stuff up because they where only programmed to 2 digit numbers, and they'll "reach the end". I believe experts knew it wouldn't do anything. They just didn't tell... it helped the economy .... -_-'

[pokechick63]

umm.. i think it might happen cuz i've been to this one site www.pokecorner.com and i was a member there 4 like a year, but then when i tried logging in it said my username didn't exist. same thing with other sites. and strange things have been happening outside the net to me. i think it has something to do with that whole signs of last days or something.

[Gr8person62.2]

umm.. i think it might happen cuz i've been to this one site www.pokecorner.com and i was a member there 4 like a year, but then when i tried logging in it said my username didn't exist. same thing with other sites. and strange things have been happening outside the net to me. i think it has something to do with that whole signs of last days or something.

If you havn't registered the information presented: It's not ture.

Get over it.