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FairyGarland
November 26th, 2008, 12:57 AM
Seriously what is your opinion on goths or people who follow dark culture?
I get called goth or asked if I'm goth all the time and I was wondering what people's opinions on goths are.
Some see us as freaks, others admire us. What about you?

Midnight Beat
November 26th, 2008, 06:58 AM
Not gonna lie...you kinda creep me out. I'm all for letting people live their lives as they see fit, but when people start to flaunt it, it becomes annoying. You know what I'm talking about, right? The people, take goths for instance, that if you look at them for more than half a second, they'll give you a funny look or make some retarded comment. If someone dresses in a way that's gonna capture attention, they shouldn't get all offended when they get it. I'm not saying all people react this way, I'm just annoyed by those who do.

Phixum
November 26th, 2008, 07:02 AM
Personally, it depends on how far you go. If you're practically satanic, then I'm afraid that's a bit problematic - to me. I'm in love with black; in certain days, I dress all in black. However, when guys paint their nails black, wear black lipstick, eyeliner, etc, etc.. It gets really ridiculous.

I think that there is no such thing as "dark culture". It's a matter of perspective. Regardless of how "dark" I dress, I'm not a suicidal person who would throw himself in front of the first train that comes through the LRT station.

I got called "goth" too. That only made me happy, since I know from personal experience that goth people, although socially retarded, are very intelligent and sensible.

Cassino
November 26th, 2008, 08:32 AM
Seriously what is your opinion on goths or people who follow dark culture?
Goths aren't a common sight where I live, and I don't really know anything about them, so I'm wondering: does part of this 'dark culture' involve black magick?

Virtual Chatot
November 26th, 2008, 08:39 AM
From what I know of the gothic culture, you're all about individuality...But to me, and others, you all have exactly the same look.
Quite contradictory in my opinion...

Metatron
November 26th, 2008, 08:51 AM
Seriously what is your opinion on goths or people who follow dark culture?
I get called goth or asked if I'm goth all the time and I was wondering what people's opinions on goths are.
Some see us as freaks, others admire us. What about you?

I see your "style" as nothing more than a social-label.

If Goths consider themselves "nonconformist" to the rest of society, why is it that you all dress in the same, bland color-coordination? No offense because however you see yourself, that's fine with me, but I think the label is nothing more than a way to attract attention to yourselves.

Like I said, the way you live your life is your business, not mine. I just think it's kinda ironic that self-proclaimed "Goths" find it necessary to constantly throw up in your face how "dark" they might be. Under all the elaborate makeup and bad color-coordination, you're the same as everyone else.

FairyGarland
November 26th, 2008, 11:11 AM
Personally, it depends on how far you go. If you're practically satanic, then I'm afraid that's a bit problematic - to me. I'm in love with black; in certain days, I dress all in black. However, when guys paint their nails black, wear black lipstick, eyeliner, etc, etc.. It gets really ridiculous.

I think that there is no such thing as "dark culture". It's a matter of perspective. Regardless of how "dark" I dress, I'm not a suicidal person who would throw himself in front of the first train that comes through the LRT station.

I got called "goth" too. That only made me happy, since I know from personal experience that goth people, although socially retarded, are very intelligent and sensible.

I wouldn't say we're not social, only we're selective about those we socialise with. We tend to read more than most people + have different taste so therefore it becomes difficult to associate with 'normal' people.

Rockéttes
November 26th, 2008, 12:14 PM
I... don't really care? o_o'

I don't like hanging around 'Goths', so I don't; simple as that. If you guys want to spend your time pretending that you're all dark and sinister, then by all means, go ahead! Just don't try to bring me into it with you, and we won't have any problems. XD

The one thing I do get pissed off about is how you strut around like it's actually difficult to be Goth. I mean, c'mon; compared to other stereotypes (Jocks, preps, tech-geeks, etc), it's barely anything! Anyone can put on black lipstick and dress in black, but not everyone can be captain of the foot ball team, y'know what I'm saying?

No offense or anything, it's just I don't see what's so great about being Goth. And, as other people have said, you obviously crave attention. I mean, what other reason would anyone have for choosing to be depressed all the time?

Virtual Chatot
November 26th, 2008, 12:19 PM
Adding on to my previous statement, I've seen the way that goths act around other goths, and it is relatively the same to how "regular" people treat one another. They laugh, joke around, and talk about girls, just like others. They only act dark in front of people who aren't goth.

Phixum
November 26th, 2008, 02:23 PM
I wouldn't say we're not social, only we're selective about those we socialise with. We tend to read more than most people + have different taste so therefore it becomes difficult to associate with 'normal' people.

I consider myself selective when it comes to socializing with people, and I think everyone has that nature in them. Therefore, it is inaccurate to attribute such a characteristic to being a Goth. Similarly, there's no way that the amount of time you dedicate for reading can determine whether or not you're a Goth. A Goth is social, aesthetic I would say, stereotype, mostly associated with suicide, loneliness, and mystery. Now, notice that there are mere reflections of the societal values, and are NOT established facts. We know that there's plenty of stigma in every society towards different perspectives of many aspects of human nature.

I don't know if being a Goth could be correlated to suicidal endeavors since my ideals could be biased from the media, and we all know that the media creates a different reality most of the time. When it comes to me personally, I tend to not associate anything with any particular individual because each individual is unique by him or her self. You could meet a happy Goth and a suicidal Gangster, and at the end of the day, establishing conclusions is problematic.

This is what's on my mind right now.

Metatron
November 26th, 2008, 10:45 PM
I wouldn't say we're not social, only we're selective about those we socialise with. We tend to read more than most people + have different taste so therefore it becomes difficult to associate with 'normal' people.

...I'm sure under all that thick makeup and those unnecessary facial piercings, you're just the same as everyone else. No matter how much you might wanna pretend otherwise :'D

Dude, no offense, but you're starting to sound worse than those people who stereotype people based on their style. "We tend to read more than most people + have different taste so therefore it becomes difficult to associate with 'normal' people." You might feel that way, but I'm sure plenty of other "goths" don't.

Being "Goth" isn't a society or way of life, it's a label. If you weren't looking for attention from other people, you wouldn't feel the need to announce it in a thread like this to everyone else from over a pokemon forum.

Chikara
November 26th, 2008, 10:55 PM
Goth is a phase, plain and simple.

The way people choose to act and dress isn't any of my business. Goths and emo people are usually EXTREMELY creative, which I admire. That's a statistic I made up a few years back, it's something I noticed xD

Being goth doesn't make people mean, it's a phase as far as I'm concerned. No one will be like that forever and if they do then well... that's weird. I'm not into that sort of thing, like I said the phase has come and gone.

Gunn
November 27th, 2008, 12:08 AM
Goths? Ha, I like how everyone in this thread is talking about them like they're some sort of species.

So, what ever happened to individuality?

Phixum
November 27th, 2008, 12:21 AM
Goths? Ha, I like how everyone in this thread is talking about them like they're some sort of species.

So, what ever happened to individuality?

I believe I have mentioned that point in my post.

Chikara
November 27th, 2008, 12:22 AM
Goths? Ha, I like how everyone in this thread is talking about them like they're some sort of species.

So, what ever happened to individuality?

That's what happens when someone asks for someones honest opinion on a stereotype. Unfortunately :/

And not "everyone in this thread" is.

TechEnixRay
November 27th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Yeah, what do you guys think of my type of people?

I don't think were that bad.

Conman
November 27th, 2008, 07:22 PM
For w/e reason I've been called Goth by people on the net because they are ignorant :o It could be because sometimes when I rant it gets dark...but that's not necessarily "goth".

As to how I feel about "Goths", I feel as if I need Goth and Emo friends :o Not a lot, but I rather like the idea of having at least two friends who fit a social stereotype. BTW, that's all it is, a social stereotype. A social stereotype that just so happens to appear rather "dark". Good thing I like "dark" things :D

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Aurafire
November 27th, 2008, 07:40 PM
Meh, I'm pretty apathetic on "goths"....Some of them are actually pretty cool people. I don't think that just because you dress in a particular way it changes who you are or automatically smacks you into a stereotype. Some of them act a bit differently around certain people, but we all do that a little sometimes.

Kyoko
November 27th, 2008, 07:43 PM
My best friend is "goth" or whatever. She likes metal music, wears all black and is into that sort of thing. Do I have a problem with it? hell no. I don't look at her differently just because she doesn't choose to wear color. She's an awesome person and I'll always be her friend no matter what.

All sterotypes are just normal people underneath the clothes they choose to wear, so no. I'm not freaked out by goths or anything like that. They just have their own interests like everyone else~!

Merzbau
November 27th, 2008, 08:28 PM
Bland, boring, unoriginal, lame, unfunny, uninteresting: such things are stereotypes, and such things are goths.

Nobody encapsulates the idea I speak like Mitch Clem does, though.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7767/20020612wj9.gif

Careful With That Axe, Pichu!
November 27th, 2008, 08:54 PM
I wouldn't say we're not social, only we're selective about those we socialise with. We tend to read more than most people + have different taste so therefore it becomes difficult to associate with 'normal' people.

I find hilarious how people label themselves as part of a certain (sometimes unexistant) subculture they don't really understand. Then each of them have different bizarre explanations for their lifestyle, sometimes as if there was a really big book that dictated the demeanor that makes a person part or that group of people.

I'd take you people more seriosuly if each of you didn't have completely different interpretations as to what makes a person a "goth" or else.

"Thou shalt worship thine mother's eyeliner"

TechEnixRay
November 28th, 2008, 10:36 AM
There are different types of Goth I believe. Not all of us are unfunny, boring, or lame. There are some that's nowhere near that catagory.

On the other hand me, Im not 100% goth but I sure dress like it everyday. I love the style but my act isn't exactly like them.

Jorah
November 28th, 2008, 01:55 PM
I don't care...what you dress like isn't important to me.

The only type of people who are non-conformist is those people that do what they do because they want to, not as a reaction to others...so those who consciously decide they want to be different from others are actually in a type of conformity, because they are still being affected by society ie by wanting to be different from what the rest of society believes to be normal. I done it in psychology last year, but I can't remember the different group names

Counterfeit
November 28th, 2008, 02:03 PM
There's a few goths around my school, and I think it's safe to say they're not overly popular. :x

Lol at the context adverts, this doesn't really scream 'gothic' to me.
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CInU9tPihtnuvgEQ2AUYTzIIduwsLV8BMdI

yvette
November 28th, 2008, 02:45 PM
My friend likes violence and blood and gets most of her clothes from West 49, but when I asked her if she was a goth, she laughed and said no. I think punks and goths are similar.

TechEnixRay
November 28th, 2008, 09:22 PM
My friend likes violence and blood and gets most of her clothes from West 49, but when I asked her if she was a goth, she laughed and said no. I think punks and goths are similar.

Somewhat, I cant give a persønal opiniøn abøut that. :|

TRANSPARANCY
November 29th, 2008, 05:07 AM
Personally i have nothing against goths, just kinda creeps me out seeing guys (maybe some girls) in tight clothes, black make-up and faces covered in piercings thats all... Really i have not seen a true GOTH. It is also to do with that us that don't fit into the "goth" way have no real knowledge on it.

yea if they are a friendly person who doesn't shove their ways "down my throat" then ill be fine.

sgtkira
November 29th, 2008, 06:47 AM
Personally in my opinion goth people are AWESOME :) haha I mean I hang out with some and they're cool, some are deep dark but none of them are Emo or suicidal or anything (not like that really goes hand in hand or anything I'm just saying because sometimes people make that connection when really there isn't) and truthfully I'll hang out with anyone IF they aren't persecuting me because of their culture or beliefs...MEANING goths are cool but if they start to tell me "Oh don't hang with us because you're not a 'true goth'" then you know what...SCREW YOU!!!...that's pretty much my philosophy :)

TechEnixRay
November 29th, 2008, 08:25 AM
Personally in my opinion goth people are AWESOME :) haha I mean I hang out with some and they're cool, some are deep dark but none of them are Emo or suicidal or anything (not like that really goes hand in hand or anything I'm just saying because sometimes people make that connection when really there isn't) and truthfully I'll hang out with anyone IF they aren't persecuting me because of their culture or beliefs...MEANING goths are cool but if they start to tell me "Oh don't hang with us because you're not a 'true goth'" then you know what...SCREW YOU!!!...that's pretty much my philosophy :)

Awesome! I see what you mean, ones that think their pure goth doesn't mean they have to hate every other kind or not hang with them.

sgtkira
November 29th, 2008, 06:28 PM
Awesome! I see what you mean, ones that think their pure goth doesn't mean they have to hate every other kind or not hang with them.

well that wasn't EXACTLY what I was saying...but okay that works too ^^ hahaha anyway yeah what I was saying was that I truly don't care about how people work as long as they don't try and do whatever that may be by trying to hurt me in any way :) or shun me since I don't shun other people for their actions and beliefs

Flabébé
November 29th, 2008, 10:05 PM
Gothic kids scare the crap out of me. I'm a very happy person by nature and when the dark, goth kid walks up, my happiness dies. It's to creepy.

Aizuke
November 30th, 2008, 01:51 AM
The only goth I've ever met is my best friend. Heck, I don't think I could classify her as a goth. From what I've seen and heard from stereotypes, my friend in my opinion is nothing like a goth, despite the fact she wears black most of the time and the type of music she listens to. I'm not even sure what makes people goth.. :\ But, I don't really mind "goths", they seem like normal people really, just with a different aspect and view to life. o.o

Doctor
November 30th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Somehow, I think they're a little weird... no offense, I'm only talking about the ones I know. Especially an old friend of mine (blonde) who suddenly colored his hair black and started to use dark make-up and dress in leather coats and godknowswhatnot... I wonder if he even knows what the goth culture he's saying he belongs to really is? :/

Zetta-Chan
November 30th, 2008, 12:23 PM
There's a few goths around my school, and I think it's safe to say they're not overly popular. :x

Lol at the context adverts, this doesn't really scream 'gothic' to me.
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CInU9tPihtnuvgEQ2AUYTzIIduwsLV8BMdI

Haha, was that a pop-up?

Anyways, I think Goths do heir own stuff, and I do mine. There being "original" and different, but I think they all look the same. I tend to stay away from them, but that's just me.

Euphoric Magikarp
November 30th, 2008, 08:31 PM
They have cool hair, so that makes them awesome to me :3.

Pkmn Trainer Guy
November 30th, 2008, 08:37 PM
ya know, ive always wanted to befriend a goth person.^^ just to see what its like, i mean , at my school(or schools) ive talked to some goth people before, actually held a conversation , but to be friends with one would be something new.

Phixum
November 30th, 2008, 09:15 PM
This thread is epic. I'm liking the awesome responses.

And by the way: thank you Josephine for posting the ad! xD you made my day.

TechEnixRay
December 1st, 2008, 03:43 AM
Awesome! I see what you mean, ones that think their pure goth doesn't mean they have to hate every other kind or not hang with them.

Ah what the heck! Good enough for me. :)

wobbadude1
December 1st, 2008, 04:28 AM
To be honest Goths are ok, I'm not one however, but because my towns are surrounded by chavs- you start to appreciate people like Goths because at least they have intelligence!

Although I don't support them 100% and find it ironic that they are trying to be "different", yet every Goth looks alike with the same dark piece of clothing!

Xairmo
December 1st, 2008, 05:34 PM
I don't think the question should be "What do you think about Goths?", it should be "Why do you care?" >.>
As far as I'm concerned, there is no such thing as "Goth", nor is there Prep or Jock or Emo or whatever! Why does everyone have to give others derogatory labels just to hurt them or give themselves a label so that they may exclude others? Seriously, wear your name not a label.

HeidiMoose
December 2nd, 2008, 09:54 PM
I think that people are people, and they all have their own interests, their own style, their own preferred genre of music, and their own hobbies.
Thankfully after being done with high school, I've come to realize how horribly stupid all labels are. And I'm very thankful for having been involved in music throughout high school, because I've gotten to be friends or at least good aquantences with at least one person from every generic stereotype, and they're all great people, and they're all different.

The only types of people that I don't like are the types that act like their better than everyone else, and think that they have to judge everyone based on their interests and style. I've been through many phases that range from "goth" to "prep." And I'll tell you what, my interests have never changed.. It's just a matter of how I feel like dressing. When I used to wear black all the time (mostly due to a never ending collective of Invader Zim shirts), I was labeled a Goth, but then I started shopping at places like Aeropostale, and that label was dropped. Of course, I stopped going to Hot Topic after I almost got kicked out for taking a picture of myself inside the store.. that really ticked me off.
I'm all for t-shirts and sweatpants now. :P

txteclipse
December 2nd, 2008, 10:01 PM
I wear drab colors sometimes, but I'm definitely not goth. I wear a lot of bright colors too. I have different philosophies for both situations (clothing philosophies, lololol).

If I'm wearing all dark clothing, I usually am thinking that I'm going to add color to the world through making art or through my actions. My dark appearance starkly contrasts what I'm doing, which is intended to make it seem that much more vibrant.

If I'm wearing bright clothing, I usually just feel like adding a splash of color to my everyday surroundings, to defeat the mundane. Yeah it's a little weird, but what the heck.

As for people that wear the black and white make-up and all-dark clothing, I try to decide based on their intent. If they're greedy for attention, I usually just blow them off. If it's a fashion statement, I decide whether I like it or not. Same goes for pretty much any style. I've been known to intentionally wear all white myself, just to be funny.

LunarWing
December 20th, 2008, 05:28 AM
I live in the Netherlands, and being a goth here is way different than in America.. Like maybe some of you know, the group-thing(you know: you have the Goths, Chavs, Preps etcetc), is not really present in Europe, at least not in a grade you experience there. I have been goth before, I had white hair and eyeliner etcetc, but I still did not really get accepted. Everyone associates it with satanism, while its not. Now I'm more of the metalhead-type, and people still think I follow some pagan cult or something. And while I'm very interested in it(and my ancestors seem to have been pagan to(Scandinavian descent)), I don't really. I do believe some pagan theories though.

I don't bite bats heads off, I don't spill my blood on a pentagram, and I don't pray to satan:P, although many people seem to think otherwise, just like with goths.

In the end, we are all flesh and blood, and we all have lungs, and a heart, and brains, whatever our subculture, culture, or color of our skin is!=)

Pechachu
December 20th, 2008, 08:51 PM
Though I'm hardly goth (I favour more of a "hippy" selection of clothes) I have a lot of goth friends, and really, I don't see anything wrong with a fashion or a style of living. My friend, who's also a member of this site, was playfully called "mothgoth" by my dad because of the black, tattered clothes he wore when he came round. But yeah, I don't know why people freak out and hate on people because of their style. Reminds me of the news story which happened a few months ago of the girl who was actually killed because she was goth... Chavs, eh. Monsters. ._.

(BBC News story.) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lancashire/7291985.stm)

Working Class Hero
December 20th, 2008, 08:55 PM
I love goth people. They are normally very nice people. They just look scary. I have like 20 goth friends and they are all the nicest people ever.

Katnip
December 21st, 2008, 07:03 AM
Seriously, goth people intimidate me. Like, once I was in Minnesota, and I saw these two teens dressed up 'goth'. One had dyed her hair bright red,the other's hair was black, but they had gone all out on the face piercings, velvet, leather, and fishnets (mostly on the girl). I swear, they must have been there for a photo shoot or something, because they stuck out like sore thumbs. Plus, when I walked by, the gave me a look poisonous enough to kill a small animal.

Jubilation
December 21st, 2008, 07:51 AM
I have no problem with Goth / Emos / Punks or anything like that, my bestfriend's whole family is practicly punk / goth so I'm used to them

Patchisou Yutohru
December 21st, 2008, 08:40 AM
What the... -- Some people are acting as if people who are goth are of a different breed of life than everyone else and that's just.. deeply upsetting and confusing how that can happen on a Pokémon forum. If someone wants to dress in dark clothing, let them. It's not your right to judge them just because they are wearing dark clothing. That just isn't right. Though people do that everyday, it's still unfair to get someone's first impression by the way they are dressed, though that's typical of society these days. You see someone in rags and assume that they're homeless, you see someone in sweats (everyday) and assume that they're poor, you see someone with somewhat long fingernails and assume that they have poor hygine. You never think of anything aside from that. What if that's all they had to wear today? What if they can't find any nail clippers? What if they like to dress that way?

My opinion on goths are that of any other "clique" or whatever you'd like to call them. I don't see them as a separate anything as the majority of my friends claim to be somewhat goth. But I do believe some people should really grow out of what we are used to being part of and stop looking down on the majority of the sub-culture as if they were different breed of life. But by asking this question, I suppose that that was going to happen anyway. Just like it would happen with any other clique question that could be asked.

Guillermo
December 21st, 2008, 07:27 PM
Goths/Punks and Emos don't freak me out one bit. If someone wishes to dress in black, smoke and... have chains or whatever it is goths wear then let them. It's their life.

sims796
December 21st, 2008, 08:00 PM
If I see one more male in all black, I'm gonna beat him tio death with his own eyeliner.

Mooshykris
December 21st, 2008, 08:55 PM
I don't really know many so I won't judge, but I wouldn't take any chances with them.

Short and to the point :P

~Mooshykris

Kura
December 21st, 2008, 10:48 PM
You shouldn't let a word categorize what you are.

Dress however you want to dress.
Read whatever you want to read.
Talk to whoever you want to talk to.

And leave it at that.

I see many things downtown Toronto. People dress and act in a variety of ways.
To me, people are people. It doesn't matter.

Haza
December 21st, 2008, 11:45 PM
I dont live that way but I admire the style. Sometimes they where the same clothes every day though and its not cute.

Melody
December 22nd, 2008, 12:11 AM
I know quite a few goths, and honestly I don't mind them. Though some of the ones I know are really just doing it to fit in to a group. I used to hang with the goths quite frequently, and I never wore anything that could be considered goth except for maybe a black-t shirt, with my khaki pants and usual shoes.
On most occasions, I'd just go with my usual clothing.

Candace
December 22nd, 2008, 12:16 AM
I myself absolutely hate the gothic visual style. Such as the clothes, make-up, hair et.c. Not because I dislike the culture at all, it's just... What's so individual about BLACK and when EVERYONE looks the same?

I suppose I'm a bit of design and fashion freak... so since I love anything quirky and unique, gothic styles are everything I hate

I'm a bit tired of the girl that stands in a corner with her other gothic friends, sighing at blonde girls who wear clothes in the colors of the rainbow... They seem to think they themselves are 100% unique, while, they're not. Goths have become so mainstream it's not even funny

LunarWing
December 25th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Of course you are right, mainstream/stereotypical-goth is really not unique, but most people that follow all trends aren't unique too..., as long as you don't make clothes yourself, you can't be visually unique after all...

Wolfwhispers
December 25th, 2008, 02:49 PM
I honestly think it is unfair to judge a person on how they look or dress. I always wear something with black, but I'm not goth, though I suppose the style I like bends toward goth/punk. But that's not me, I just dress with whatever I like. The only 'goths' I hate are the wannabe's. The ones who don't even understand the literature, belief's, ect. The people who dress in black for no reason are people I do not like. Real goths are pretty awsome people. They're not all broody and moody like most people think. In fact there's an event each year where hundreds of goths come together and go ice skating. It's really interesting.

Evilyn
December 25th, 2008, 02:59 PM
I don't care what other people wear, really. Wear whatever you want, you won't get any opinions or compliments from me.

Master Electrician
December 25th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Like all other parts of the social strata, there are goths I'm perfectly okay with and like to spend time with, those whom I'm ambivalent towards, and those whom I find objectionable. Making a blanket statement about a group is idiocy.

Katalyst
December 25th, 2008, 06:27 PM
To be serious, I'm not much comfortable with goths. They just don't match my personality. I'm always cheerful and talkable to everyone and I like to dress colorful clothes. Most of the goths around the city where I live only talk to other goths and turn their face to people who are dressing the rainbow colours. Also, I rarely see them with a happy face. They're always wearing black clothes, always wearing black makeup, always having a weird-looking hair, seriously, that doesn't match me. They think they're unique, but there are plenty of people looking like this. That's not unique at all.

Sokai
December 25th, 2008, 06:36 PM
Bland, boring, unoriginal, lame, unfunny, uninteresting: such things are stereotypes, and such things are goths.

Nobody encapsulates the idea I speak like Mitch Clem does, though.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7767/20020612wj9.gif

Ahahaha. xD

But anyways, I gotta agree with some of the people who post in here. :/ I find it kind of... ironic how some "goths" are all about individuality, when they dress exactly alike. I mean, I'm not against it or "goths" but it seems kind of... I don't know. Hypocritical? Basically, the comic above says it all.

Yamikarasu
December 25th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Hmm... It doesn't really hurt anyone so I'm indifferent. Although it is annoying that it is supposedly an expression of individuality even though tons of people do it. Moral of the story: don't follow trends.

pokemon_beauty
December 28th, 2008, 11:41 AM
I don't really consider myself a true "goth".. but I get called goth all the time :)
I can't really help who I am, but I prefer to wear black.
I am going to look into alternative/goth modeling after I turn 18, because I'm into it!

I actually have a ton of friends. One of my two best friends is the biggest prep you would EVER want to meet :p but we get along famously. She envies me for being able to be so bold and wear the things I do. I envy her because she dresses the way she does and has a ton of friends :) I could NEVER be that way, but I envy the fact she is!

I'm not what people would stereotype goths to be, but every article of clothing I own is black, I listen to NDM, I used to dye my hair black, but I stopped because I got too lazy and it's sooo expensive to keep it black :p (I have settled for black undertones), I DON'T paint my nails black, they are always natural, I DO wear dark make-up..

Some of the best (and MOST INTELLIGENT) people I have ever met in my life were goth :) They are so charming!

bubblewrap
December 28th, 2008, 09:09 PM
I am not a goth, but people think I am, which annoys me to no end. This annoying girl calls me a poser, but I'm not EVEN trying to "pose". I wear black one day, she keeps pestering me about me being a "poser". I wear black because once, I wore an awesome mostly white shirt. I tripped, and totally killed that shirt. I hang out with the happiest, preppiest people ever. How the hell am I supposed to be thought of as a goth? It's funny. She also thinks I put on makeup to make my skin paler. Gosh, I have freakishly pale skin without makeup. Everybody thinks I wear makeup, but my skin is just like that. Believe me, I'm half Filipino and half my family thinks I'm the adopted pale freak. xD What I would give to be a LITTLE darker.

Miyukii
December 29th, 2008, 11:36 AM
My opinions of goths...weird...like super weird. Not offending any goths. I'm not called a got, but once my friend said I looked gothic because I was wearing a converse boot shirt, the whole shirt was black and then I wore some black jeans. I mean, I don't really wanna be one of course!!! :S No one wants to be labelled.

bubblewrap
December 29th, 2008, 02:33 PM
My opinions of goths...weird...like super weird. Not offending any goths. I'm not called a got, but once my friend said I looked gothic because I was wearing a converse boot shirt, the whole shirt was black and then I wore some black jeans. I mean, I don't really wanna be one of course!!! :S No one wants to be labelled.

Yeah. I hate labeling. Why can't people just be their own person instead of following a trend? >.<

Alex_
December 30th, 2008, 06:09 AM
Personally, it depends on how far you go. If you're practically satanic, then I'm afraid that's a bit problematic - to me. I'm in love with black; in certain days, I dress all in black. However, when guys paint their nails black, wear black lipstick, eyeliner, etc, etc.. It gets really ridiculous.

I think that there is no such thing as "dark culture". It's a matter of perspective. Regardless of how "dark" I dress, I'm not a suicidal person who would throw himself in front of the first train that comes through the LRT station.

I got called "goth" too. That only made me happy, since I know from personal experience that goth people, although socially retarded, are very intelligent and sensible.You just said that someone who follows "dark culture"/is goth would throw themselves in front of a train yet you say they're sensible?

True Reign
December 30th, 2008, 09:57 AM
I have no goth friends. I don't mind the girls who are goth, but the guys... Wtf? Seriously don't wear black makeup, thats just stupid.

Anxiety.
December 30th, 2008, 01:56 PM
I couldn't give any more of a damn about if your goth or not, if you're cool, I'll hang out with you.

I don't see goths as people who wear dark make-up to attract attention, and I don't see them as people who must want to kill themselves and all around them. They, like you and me, are very much human.

For one, you all are saying, 'They all look alike' I could say that about any group of people, Chavs, for instance, tracksuits, burbry (I can't spell that word, you know what I mean) and big golden chains. There, Skaters, ripped jeans, always carrying a skateboard, long hair, caps. Two examples, every group of people will have a pacific style. That's why its a group of people.

Now. Goths, say they want to stand out from a crowd, they do, indeed do that.

Goth is a stereotype, like Chav, Gamer, Skater, Emo, Grebo, Punk, Dancer.

When you say they give you a funny look if you are looking at them for more than a second. I get that for no reason of everyone, I walk down the corridor at school, and I do indeed, get many funny stares, but I don't look at anyone.

I look at a chav, for a second, maybe less, and it's
"Whatcha lookin at, want me to kill ya?"
It's the same with everyone, nobody likes to get looked at funny, I feel really unconfertable when people look at me, I don't like being watched. If someone was staring at you, a funny look would be nessercery.


I'm not fussed about goths, apparently, because I don't constantly listen to rap, I'm a goth. I don't, in anyway, make myself seem like a goth, I've never played music loud enough for anyone I don't know to hear, the only time they see me is at school, with the school uniform on, and my hair is down to my shoulders and blond, usualy straightened, what about that is goth like?

Meh, I don't give a damn about what they say anyway.

And because I'm only 13, don't be all like "She's only a little girl, ignore her" becuase that annoys me to no end.

i'm a bubble. pop me.
December 30th, 2008, 02:40 PM
I don't care about labels-_- It is true that if for example I walked in my class one day and saw a person wearing all black and having the same make-up goths do, having pierces etc., that would catch my attention (there's not so much goths were i live), but that doesn't mean that i would judge that person just by their looks. It's just a style. It can tell you that that person likes to listen to specific music and that they prefer (in our case) darker things - and even that can be misleading, etc. but those are just a couple of persons traits. We are all far to complex to be judged or to judge a person based only on their style in my opinion.

I also don't agree with some people here who said that goths just crave attention and that's why they dress the way they do. I guess that sometimes could be the case, but in majory I think that they choose this style because they just want to express themselfs - at least a small part of who they are, because we all know that looks aren't everything.

LunarWing
December 30th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Why do people think all goths wear black and are depressed.
I hang around with people that are labelled "goths", and most of them are very optimistic people, enjoying life and such. They just like to wear those clothes because they feel comfortable in them. I wear armyboots, cargopants and bandshirts, because I like that: thats what your own taste is all about! I would never judge someone on their choice of clothing: its your taste, it makes you.. eh.. you!^^

Edit: example - If we WOULD label people, look at the "cybergoths"(yes, a sub-term......><), they wear colourful clothing, which in many times, they make themselves(goggles, dreadfalls(fake hair), skirts, pants)! That way you can't even be like another, because you can't fully copy something by making it yourself.
And yes I honestly think: labels suck. Without them this world had a lot less problems(no borders, no war.. etc:P)