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Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 07:08 PM
I want to transfer some of my favotirte pokemon form the past games, but to do this I need the national dex, for which I need to have seen every one of the normal pokemon. Particulary seeing Garchomp, Milotic, and Spiritomb are going to be a problem. Does seeing a pokemon in an online battle count for the pokedex? Or is online intervention only available in the form of the global trade system?

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Nope, online battles don't count...
You must see them while in-game when you battle trainers. ;)

Postman
December 14th, 2008, 07:16 PM
Particulary seeing Garchomp, Milotic, and Spiritomb are going to be a problem.
Cynthia has all three of those.

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 07:19 PM
Thank you for the help, I will get on fighting the elite four champ...I only wish that I didint have to beat the game to get my favorite pokemon all together. Anyway I am going for all ground types - Nidoking, Torterra, Golem, Swampert, Flygon, and Mamoswine. And why would you want to breed pokemon anyway? Is it for the right abilities or something?

Dmatt
December 14th, 2008, 07:24 PM
You could improve many many aspects of the baby, for one the nature, also the ability, for more specialized breeding there's the IV values improvement and egg moves it shouldn't normally learn.

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 07:29 PM
So does breeding raise the pokemon's stats/abilities or just give it more moves and the ability to chose what random nature ect. it has? This breeding buisness sounds very dismal and time cunsuming if the first is true...

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Yes it's pretty time consuming.
But you can max out your pokemon stats instead of having weakling pokes... And you have the possibility to make them learn moves that they not naturally learn. And of course choose the right nature that you wanna raise.

Great advantages if you wanna go for competitive battling. Or just even owning your friend easily...

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 07:58 PM
How exactly are stats affected in this? I mean does it jsut max EVERY stat out or are different pokemon's stats still different? Either way this and the requirements for getting pokemon from other games are their worst mistake.

Also is there a penalty for traded pokemon? I would like to know for my Golem, whom ofcourse was traded to evolve.

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 08:03 PM
Hum... No penalties as I may know... exept that you can't the name of a poke that's not of your ID...

But no... it don't max out every stats... better try to learn about IVs... Individual Values... then you'll understand

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 08:20 PM
I have looked in to this black magic of individual values, and woudlint it be more balanced to make all pokemon have the same number of stat points above their minimum stats for all their stat that would be distributed between all of their stats randomly? Of course breeding wouldint be random, though.

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 08:31 PM
The game isn't made to be easy you know :P

Just look at the effort you must do to fully complete the Pokedex ;)

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 08:39 PM
At least completing the Pokedex was entertaining...even though it was a massive improvision with only 3 real fighting pokemon and the vain hope that this game wouldint be cruel and make me do everything but beat the game in order to use pokemon from other games... Also this breeding seems to actualy detract from a pokemon's individuality... I mean, shouldint just nature/trait be enough?

And where do I find out how to breed and have any hope of winning online...? I hope my pokemon already have at least decent IV values.
And does this mean it is impossible to breed the starters? Torterra is my favorite pokemon by far :(

(I am close to but have not yet completed the pokedex, my biggest obsticle is beating the elite four with my stubborn team of three unbreeded pokemon, two of which are actualy ones that I want to keep once my pokedex is complete.)

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 08:44 PM
Best places to know about Breeding, IVs and EVs are:

PC Forum in Strategies and Moveset there's a sub-forum named Breeding

There's Serebii.net in the "Game Mechanics" part of the site

Or even ask someone who knows good about it, and ask for his/her tutoring... Some people are kind enough to learn you the basics and some hints, like it happened to me before.

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 08:53 PM
I wouldint have gotten this far on the three battle pokemon I have without decent movesets. Well, two of my pokemon have movesets that I like, my floatzel just wont learn anything useful. On my Torterra I have
Grass Knot
Curse
Leech Seed
Earthquake

And on my Golem I have
Stone Edge
Dig
Explosion
Rollout

And is it customary to post up your Freind Code on forums as you have?

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 08:58 PM
Like those in my signature ??
Hum yeah... lotta people have it posted like that...

When 2 people agreed to do something Wi-Fi together, it's quicker that way than to wait for people to tell it :P

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 09:01 PM
How does one create a signiture, as I think the thing that shows up on all of your posts is called?

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 09:03 PM
Click in the top to get in your "User CP"
There's some choice listed as Signature...
Just go there and customize it how you like :)

You can place pictures and stuffs

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 09:12 PM
Thank you for all the help, I now have my signature up.

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 09:17 PM
No trouble man :)
Always glad to help

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 09:21 PM
Awesome my avatar worked also :) I take it your favorite pokemon is Treeko?

Le_Avatar
December 14th, 2008, 09:33 PM
Let's say that I respect Treecko ;)
I don't really have a favorite one... But Treecko is so cool in the anime that I pick it as an avatar

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 09:42 PM
Torterra is the whole reason that I am trying to have all ground types, like the elite four person that I did not know about at the time. Despite looking random, he looks good.

My problem with breeding is that its just another hurdle for me befroe I can face people on wifi with a fightning chance. And the people with maxed out stats just duke it out with others using maxed stats I guess.
It seems like it would be hard to find opponents around lvl 53 or so, which is about where I am.

Also, i've never cared much for pokemon contests, but is there a wifi competition for them or is it limited to more entertaining battles?

Battling other player combinations online sounds awesome, so long as nothing gets unbalanced.

EverPhoenix
December 14th, 2008, 10:02 PM
the game is made to be a challenge, but you dont need to EV, or breed for IV/Nature to win. I beat the game using like 4 pokemon (empoleon, staraptor, luxray and dialga)

IV breeding is for those who want to compete with the best, without it the 1 or 2 stat points will mean the difference between a OHKO and a 2HKO (one-hit and 2-hit ko). If you arent planning to battle competitively (or not on a very high level), IV breeding is a waste of time.

You can battle anyone on wifi, and itll project the pokemon to lvl100 with the stats theyd have when they hit lvl100 themselves. so i could take a party of lvl20s to vs ur 53s and itd be fair

and your torterra looks rather nasty (as in powerful), your level is just a bit low. Cynthia's best is lvl66, and id recommend getting an ice move (ice beam if you can afford it, blizzard otherwise) on your floatzel.

you can breed torterra, you just need a ditto... and a national dex to get that ditto.

how far can you get in the elites? i can see you having issues with aaron, but your torterra should blitz through the next 2 trainers with minimal effort (if you level it a bit)

Galgus
December 14th, 2008, 10:09 PM
With my strange and less than completely balanced team of Pokemon I am more than used to cruel improvision...Leech Seed - Curse works wonders when I simply have a type disadvantage that I cant get around with my currently small selection because curse buffs my offense and defense at the same time with leech seed's life damage that ignores type and life regen boosted by my item also acting offensively and defensively at the same time. When I use curse seven times (enough to max out the attack and deffense) I can just overpower enemies regardless of their type ;)

And wouldint Aaron be easy prey for my Golem's and Torterra's ground attacks as well as my Floatzel's water attacks? How would that be a problem?

And are wifi battles realy limited to one and two shots? That would be a big disapointment from the strategies I encountered while playing the game (Albiet i've seen things happen that just shouldint happen there too).

Horizon
December 14th, 2008, 11:21 PM
This thread has got way out of hand now. It wasn't even a trade thread. D:

*locks*