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Darth Reven82
December 22nd, 2008, 05:40 PM
So, is the world overcrowded? Is there simply too many human beings on this planet? Could this be a lie? Could the world simply be simply poorly managed? Let’s perform some simply mathematics to see.

Let’s begin with the world’s current population. There are 6,756,108,950 people on the entire planet at the moment I typed this. There’s about 57,491,000 square miles of land on the planet.

6,756,108,950/57,491,000 = 117.51594075594440869005583482632,

That rounds to 118. That means that there are about 118 people per square mile on this planet. Almost certainly you can fit more than 118 people in a mile.

Let’s move on to housing. An American home, on average, is about 2400 square feet, 3000 with a yard, and there are 27,878,400 square feet in a square mile. 27878400/3000 = 9292.8, rounds to 9300. In one square mile you can fit 9300 average American homes, which are pretty good compared to what the majority of the world lives in.

The United States – It has 3,718,695 square miles of land.

3,718,695 X 9300 = 34,583,863,500

You could fit over 30 billion homes in the United States, meaning 30 billion people, every person has a house to himself, could fit in the United States. Now, cons

The Earth’s land area covers 57,491,000 square miles.

57,491,000 X 9200 = 534,666,300,000

Over 500 billion people could fit on the planet and each person can still have a house to himself. That’s half a trillion people.
Now this number gets multiplied by about 5, because homes have 5 people on average. When you do this you can see that about 3,000,000,000,000 people could fit on the planet.



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So, what do you people think about this?

Ripper
December 22nd, 2008, 05:43 PM
You're assuming of course that you can live anywhere aren't you? Who want's to live in the Sahara?

A quarter of the world isn't really suitable to live on (not including the water obvioulsy) due to lack of resources etc.

wakachamo
December 22nd, 2008, 05:52 PM
It's both overpopulated and poorly managed.

Darth Reven82
December 22nd, 2008, 05:58 PM
You're assuming of course that you can live anywhere aren't you? Who want's to live in the Sahara?

A quarter of the world isn't really suitable to live on (not including the water obvioulsy) due to lack of resources etc.

I'm not actually considering shoving everyone into one area.

As for the Sahara, people already live there. It'd be more comfortable, however, if they had roofs over their heads, and most likely the buildings would have air conditioning and things like that.

As for the ocean, it wouldn't be impossible to build communities on the sea. You should probably research the Venus Project or something, which is where I got the idea in the first place.

Working Class Hero
December 22nd, 2008, 06:02 PM
It's both and anyone can see that.

Poorly managed- Daily we are pumping tons of CO2 into our atmosphere. Not to mention polluting the oceans, land, air.

Overpopulated- We are using up resources faster than the Earth can replace them. :\ And the fact where in some places it is so crowded people die. :\

.inLOVE
December 22nd, 2008, 06:04 PM
It's screwed up. That's all I can say.

Candace
December 22nd, 2008, 08:46 PM
I live in one of the largest countries in Europe, yet we're only 14 million people (about 2 million here in the big city). Our country is 531,794 km² and the 4th largest country in Europe

Yet it's heavily un-populated if you look at much smaller countries like the UK which has no less than 60 million people

Guillermo
December 22nd, 2008, 08:54 PM
It's overpopulated, poorly managed and one heck of a war zone. Everyday we have problems in life, problems lead to problems, but nothing ever gets done. The troops in Iraq for example. We've been saying for countless years they will be free, but are they? No. I know there was a contract signed to have them out by 2011, but... they should be out by now.

Everyday we are pumping gases into our world, killing animals and the like. It's terrible. Jails are becoming full, people are just becoming careless and it needs to be solved.

~Kavin~
December 22nd, 2008, 08:54 PM
Clearly both. Man this world is so messed up, I bet our founding fathers would be like wtf?

BakingBluePotatoe
December 22nd, 2008, 09:06 PM
It's overpopulated, poorly managed and one heck of a war zone. Everyday we have problems in life, problems lead to problems, but nothing ever gets done. The troops in Iraq for example. We've been saying for countless years they will be free, but are they? No. I know there was a contract signed to have them out by 2011, but... they should be out by now.

Everyday we are pumping gases into our world, killing animals and the like. It's terrible. Jails are becoming full, people are just becoming careless and it needs to be solved.

Pretty much it. And I'm pretty sure we'll have a repeat of the Great Depression soon...

.emerald
December 22nd, 2008, 09:07 PM
I would have to say both. And because of our carelessness, WE are slowly dying(including our home.)

Kura
December 22nd, 2008, 09:16 PM
You can't link up humans side by side and figure that's how people can live on a planet.
Are you forgetting the fact that there's vast areas of water that can't be populated? the fact that there are deserts and trees and animals that need their own space to even breed, eat, and BREATHE?

It's a bit of both, really. I think they should kill off all the convicts and people who really aren't doing anything good in the community and have done bad in the world.

Careful With That Axe, Pichu!
December 22nd, 2008, 09:40 PM
I think they should kill off all the convicts and people who really aren't doing anything good in the community and have done bad in the world.

What the heck? What next, should we colonize Saturn? Or should we clone Bono?

Why don't you make that your Christmas wish, while you're at it?

Melody
December 22nd, 2008, 09:43 PM
Honestly, I don't think the world is overpopulated yet. Maybe in 2525.... but definitely not now.

♣Gawain♣
December 23rd, 2008, 03:43 AM
Both. Overpopulated plus poor management can make it look really really overpopulated. Maybe people should move to Antarctica or to the moon.

Cid
December 23rd, 2008, 03:59 AM
Wow. Is that Pi?

Anyway, I'd say the same thing that most people above me said. Both.

Why?

Probably because of the same reasons already explained above.

LethalTexture
December 23rd, 2008, 04:09 AM
I'd disagree that the world is overly populated. Sure, almost seven billion people is a vast number, but there is alot of unenhabited land on this planet (whether it is actually habitable or not is another question, however). The world's population is forever growing; more people are been born than die, and I can't see the population becoming a problem for another 500 - 1000 years at least.

On the other point, I truly agree. I'm not sure that there are many countries in the world that have an able government.

And because of our carelessness, WE are slowly dying(including our home.)

I suppose you refer to global warming? Disagree. We are contributing, yes, but it's making hardly any difference at all. No matter what mankind does, the Earth is still going to heat up, even if the Earth went zero carbon emissions. The Earth is in a natural cycle, still heating up after the Ice Age.

All this scientific evidence is being ignored, that's what annoys me about this "green" propaganda.

Cassino
December 23rd, 2008, 07:14 AM
Nature's more evident way of managing humans is to give them one child per birth cycle, and to make this childbirth comparatively dangerous in the first place; this has failed since we developed medicine.
I believe medical advances to be what has led to the Earth's population becoming how large it is today. In all nature's way, we're not supposed to wash our hands, not supposed to cure diseases, not supposed to... you know, live. Something as simple as a broken leg (where the bone comes out through the skin) should really be the end of us, once the onset of infection occurs.
It's become some kind of taboo for us to speak of death, but naturally we should be dropping left right and centre to things which today are considered petty.

Once upon a time, being 40 meant you were probably the oldest in your village. Nowadays you can be 100 and still able to walk.


It's a horrific notion to many, but sometime in our history it may be best to start culling ourselves; we're already cutting down vast areas of forest simply to feed ourselves.
Still, I think WWIII will do that for us before long.

I suppose you refer to global warming? Disagree. We are contributing, yes, but it's making hardly any difference at all. No matter what mankind does, the Earth is still going to heat up, even if the Earth went zero carbon emissions. The Earth is in a natural cycle, still heating up after the Ice Age.
I'd like to add to that, that whether we burn all the resources fastly or slowly we're still going to burn it all anyway, so the whole 'reducing of emissions to save the planet' crap falls flat on its face.

Gold warehouse
December 23rd, 2008, 07:27 AM
I suppose you refer to global warming? Disagree. We are contributing, yes, but it's making hardly any difference at all. No matter what mankind does, the Earth is still going to heat up, even if the Earth went zero carbon emissions. The Earth is in a natural cycle, still heating up after the Ice Age.

All this scientific evidence is being ignored, that's what annoys me about this "green" propaganda.

Nicely put.

No I don't think the world is overcrowded; one could say a city or even a country is overcrowded but it's a stretch to say that the world is overcrowded, we havn't had to resort to floating citys yet.
500 years ago things like the plague would cut the population down for us, but as Cassino said we now have medicine; can we justify not saving lifes in order to decrease the population now that we have the medical knowledge? I don't think so. But the world will go on and something dramatic will happen to cut down the population; be it WWIII or a new pandemic.

Mitchman
December 23rd, 2008, 07:35 AM
I say both. In a way. We pollute and kill or planet everyday and some countries are over populated or have to many of one ethnic group. Im talking about china people. 1.5 billion out of 5.5 billion is a tad much no? I lvoe there country and there customs and everything about them except population.

Virtual Chatot
December 23rd, 2008, 07:36 AM
I say both. In a way. We pollute and kill or planet everyday and some countries are over populated or have to many of one ethnic group. Im talking about china people. 1.5 billion out of 5.5 billion is a tad much no? I lvoe there country and there customs and everything about them except population.

Doesn't this also explain why China wants to expand its borders so eagerly? ( Tibet, for example )

Darth Reven82
December 23rd, 2008, 08:20 AM
Actually, if you read my original post, we're not overpopulated at all.

The problem at hand is this: A small percentage of the world's population owns most of the resources. We have the potential to give everyone in the world a decent life-style, but the resources need to be better managed.

The only thing that holds us back is greedy people who take way more than their share of these resources.

Mitchman
December 23rd, 2008, 12:23 PM
But we are. The world is made up of 70% water ad 30% land. Out of the 30% only about 20-25% is habitable and 15-20% is populated.

raven_emblem
December 23rd, 2008, 01:13 PM
thats why we have wars so we lessen the population

Amachi
December 23rd, 2008, 03:35 PM
So, is the world overcrowded? Is there simply too many human beings on this planet? Could this be a lie? Could the world simply be simply poorly managed? Let’s perform some simply mathematics to see.

Let’s begin with the world’s current population. There are 6,756,108,950 people on the entire planet at the moment I typed this. There’s about 57,491,000 square miles of land on the planet.

6,756,108,950/57,491,000 = 117.51594075594440869005583482632,

That rounds to 118. That means that there are about 118 people per square mile on this planet. Almost certainly you can fit more than 118 people in a mile.

Let’s move on to housing. An American home, on average, is about 2400 square feet, 3000 with a yard, and there are 27,878,400 square feet in a square mile. 27878400/3000 = 9292.8, rounds to 9300. In one square mile you can fit 9300 average American homes, which are pretty good compared to what the majority of the world lives in.

The United States – It has 3,718,695 square miles of land.

3,718,695 X 9300 = 34,583,863,500

You could fit over 30 billion homes in the United States, meaning 30 billion people, every person has a house to himself, could fit in the United States. Now, cons

The Earth’s land area covers 57,491,000 square miles.

57,491,000 X 9200 = 534,666,300,000

Over 500 billion people could fit on the planet and each person can still have a house to himself. That’s half a trillion people.
Now this number gets multiplied by about 5, because homes have 5 people on average. When you do this you can see that about 3,000,000,000,000 people could fit on the planet.



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So, what do you people think about this?

And where would we produce all the food we need to consume so that we can all survive in our nice homes?

Gold warehouse
December 24th, 2008, 02:06 AM
I'm sure something will come up; 100 years ago humans had only just invented the plane, they would not have thought it possible that men would be in space about 60 years later. I'm sure we will be even more advanced over the next 100 years and we will have found solutions to these problems.

processr
December 24th, 2008, 02:31 AM
I live in one of the largest countries in Europe, yet we're only 14 million people (about 2 million here in the big city). Our country is 531,794 km² and the 4th largest country in Europe

Yet it's heavily un-populated if you look at much smaller countries like the UK which has no less than 60 million people


I thought Sweden had something like nine million people when I last checked? ._. I do love how sparsely populated Sweden is though. My father lives there, and when I go on holiday there I love the peace and quiet, even in cities like Helsingborg.

@OP: Where did you get that figure? 57 million km² is more like the area of Eurasia, not all land on Earth. All land on Earth is somewhere nearer 150 milion km².

Tokin
December 28th, 2008, 06:25 PM
Poorly managed, as for overpopulation, it depends on the management itself, a country which is overpopulated is so because that means it can't handle the needs of everyone, it doesn't exactly refer to the number of people living in it, if we improve resource, space and politics management to accommodate the needs of any number of people then there will be no overpopulation, regardless of the number of people living here^^

ErickaVolt
December 28th, 2008, 06:53 PM
Both, mother nature is poorly managed and the world is overly populated because of lack of education and family planting planning. We don't know as the next years will come the Russians will drop nukes and human race will be erased.

Kura
December 28th, 2008, 06:58 PM
What the heck? What next, should we colonize Saturn? Or should we clone Bono?

Why don't you make that your Christmas wish, while you're at it?

Haha, perhaps. Well that's just how I feel about the world. You don't have to like it or agree. I believe that many people out there just aren't deserving of that precious life they've been given. So ungrateful.

GFA
December 28th, 2008, 07:27 PM
... Obviously. We'll be in a state of no room by 2019.

thorn96
December 28th, 2008, 07:43 PM
We're not that overpopulated.

There are over 6 billion people in the world, but remember, people are constantly dying
around us.

Stronkadonk
December 28th, 2008, 07:46 PM
It's a combination of both.
There are way to many breeding grounds here, for god's sake you freaking teenager, stop having sex and do things for your future. Too many people think it would be so easy being a parent, or want to have fun having sex. Well it's not fun when you're in high school and a parent. It will take up a ton of your time, and devour much of your life.
And there are a ton of idiots out there, who let this happen. This is where the poorly managed part comes in. Things are bad because of both of these, and it's harming living conditions and the economy.
'Nuff said.