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Hejlug
December 24th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Playing the games from red/blue to ruby/sapphire and watching the anime,i never thought of reading the mangas.
The storyline in the anime always looked average to me.Now i finally decided to read the mangas,but the thing is i want to know:how many types are there?Do they share the same universe?

Thundєr
December 24th, 2008, 11:52 AM
Read first Pokemon Special (Adventures) is based directly in the games from Red/Blue to the actual games of D/P/P, is the longest manga.

Hejlug
December 24th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Heh,just started that one :)
I wonder:are there any mangas that create a storyline paradox?

Thundєr
December 24th, 2008, 12:28 PM
Heh,just started that one :)
I wonder:are there any mangas that create a storyline paradox?

Yeah like Diamond and Pearl Adventures for example

Other manga:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_(manga)

Hejlug
December 24th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Does this mean events take place where they didnt in the other mangas,and character bios is changed?

Thundєr
December 24th, 2008, 12:40 PM
Does this mean events take place where they didnt in the other mangas,and character bios is changed?

Yes, for example in Diamond and Pearl Adventures, the names are Hareta, Mitsumi and Jun. It's an side story.
In Pokemon Special D/P/P Saga, the names are Diamond, Pearl and Platina Berlitz.
And the storyline is also different.

Hejlug
December 24th, 2008, 01:17 PM
Ok,last question:
Which came first:
The manga,game or the anime?

machomuu
December 24th, 2008, 01:27 PM
Ok,last question:
Which came first:
The manga,game or the anime?
1. Game
2. Manga
3. Anime

jasonresno
December 24th, 2008, 01:36 PM
The anime, sadly, really doesn't have a conventional storyline because a conventional storyline ends when the story is done and told. Now a story that will stop when it stops cashing in can't afford the luxury of a conventional storyline.

Mika555
December 24th, 2008, 08:12 PM
The anime, sadly, really doesn't have a conventional storyline because a conventional storyline ends when the story is done and told. Now a story that will stop when it stops cashing in can't afford the luxury of a conventional storyline.
The video game came first and the anime came second in Japan first Pokemon Red and Green (not Blue) came out on February 27, 1996 and the Pokemon anime came out on April 1, 1997. However in where I live at the anime aired first on April 12, 1998 and Pokemon Red and Blue (Yes Blue) was released on September 1, 1998. It annoys me that the anime aired before the video games where released because the games came first in the country I live in and they are suppose to be should first because they are the original stories and creator of Pokemon was actually involved in making the games. As for the mangas it depends on which manga you are referring to and I do not know which manga came first either.

Wallace Berlitz
December 24th, 2008, 08:48 PM
Ok,last question:
Which came first:
The manga,game or the anime?

First, it's too obvious the manga is based on the game. The characters even have their version name to represent their game like Blue, Green and Red... But Anime released first. Manga is 95% based on the game. Anime is just 20% base on the game. Why? Because Anime only follow the regions. They didn't change Ash this bastard to the other male character. Like in third generation. Brendan should replace Ash. Brendan and Lucas only appear in a short cameo in the movie. So I think they really should take Ash out. And Anime don't even follow the game events. In manga, there's many thing that is follow in the manga and PokeSpecial is much better than the anime. They have all the game characters and two new characters (Yellow and Emerald). As for the 5% difference between the Games and Manga, they added some events. The added events are most likely in the end of the saga. Manga has storyline but Anime don't have. Anime has each different story in each anime. Manga's storyline is continue and continue.
Wallace Ryan

Mitchman
December 25th, 2008, 01:53 AM
In simpler terms...
Anime=fail Manga=epic. You should always remember that and wil surely see that once you start enjoying manga over anime.

pong08
December 25th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Ok, first of all, The pokespecial manga is just too epic. BUT, the anime is improving in content maturity. Believe it or not, but the pokemon movies become more intense every year, and in DP, in the pokemon ranger episode, there is a scene where Ash actually gets physically hurt. Not in a movie, but in a anime EPISODE. I used to hate Ash, but now I kind of like him again. don't get me wrong! I would replace Ash anyday with Red/Jimmy/Brendan/Lucas. But you got to give the writers credit to making Ash a slightly more mature character compared to the other seasons. And did anybody notice that Dawn is a lot more different from other girl partners in pokemon and therefore I think that is one of the reasons that Ash is SLIGHTLY making improvements in his maturity.

But, Manga still wins.

Hejlug
December 25th, 2008, 10:11 PM
Woah,now that i read the 'vs Onix' chapter,i saw how a Graveller is broken into pieces,Onix as well.Do they actually,um...DIE?Thats pretty barbareus to make pokemon fight to death...

invisible-chan
December 25th, 2008, 10:12 PM
First of all, the games came first. There is no debate about that. Maybe the release varies in which country, but the very first appearance was the games in Japan. As for anime and manga, it all depends on which manga. Also, which arc in the anime(if you are including them). To some of you, this may come as a shock, but there are more than just the Special Adventures manga.

First, it's too obvious the manga is based on the game. The characters even have their version name to represent their game like Blue, Green and Red... But Anime released first. Manga is 95% based on the game. Anime is just 20% base on the game. Why? Because Anime only follow the regions. They didn't change Ash this bastard to the other male character. Like in third generation. Brendan should replace Ash. Brendan and Lucas only appear in a short cameo in the movie. So I think they really should take Ash out. And Anime don't even follow the game events. In manga, there's many thing that is follow in the manga and PokeSpecial is much better than the anime. They have all the game characters and two new characters (Yellow and Emerald). As for the 5% difference between the Games and Manga, they added some events. The added events are most likely in the end of the saga. Manga has storyline but Anime don't have. Anime has each different story in each anime. Manga's storyline is continue and continue.
Wallace Ryan


While I agree that PokeSupe is great, it isn't the best or most accurate. It's between 87 and 65% at best in accuracy. It completely changes certain characters and what tidbits of personality they have. Some of the events are so far off and bewildering from the game, you just have to wonder where they get it from. I'd say more, but it's all in my (dead)rant. Before anyone goes and flames me for "hating" the manga, note that I'm in no way bashing it and I am a fan.

Please excuse my off topic semi-rant. Basically order of existance is

1. Games
2. Some different manga
3. the Anime
4. Other different manga.

I'm not sure whether PokeSupe is 2 or 4, but you could check the release dates in Bulbapedia or maybe Serebii.

Thundєr
December 26th, 2008, 12:33 AM
Woah,now that i read the 'vs Onix' chapter,i saw how a Graveller is broken into pieces,Onix as well.Do they actually,um...DIE?Thats pretty barbareus to make pokemon fight to death...

Nope they didn't die, they only fainted. Note: The manga it's a little more mature than the anime.

Wallace Berlitz
December 26th, 2008, 01:12 AM
I would replace Ash anyday with Red/Jimmy/Brendan/Lucas.

Um... Actually, Red = Ash in the game. Ash suppose to be name as Red in the anime but I don't know why they change. Because Ash and Red are base on the first generation main character design. But Red is much smarter and stronger than Ash. Ash always have a childish head, show-off, action and too champion ship. If you notice every Ash's movement, it is too "action" that's the first reason I hate him. Then he like to argure with the people who just hurt abit of him, second reason. And when he lose, he cried third reason. And Red is more better than Ash. Anyway, if you don't believe Ash and Red are base on the first generation game character design check here.
http://www.serebii.net/manga/characters-new/red.shtml

Hejlug
December 26th, 2008, 01:24 AM
Dudes,i have no idea how a Graveller can regenerate after beeing broken into pieces.

Ru-Kun
December 26th, 2008, 06:05 AM
Woah,now that i read the 'vs Onix' chapter,i saw how a Graveller is broken into pieces,Onix as well.Do they actually,um...DIE?Thats pretty barbareus to make pokemon fight to death...

Well not in that chapter,.........but there are parts in the manga when dead Pokemon appear. Well at least in Pokemon Special/Aventures.

Maxim
December 26th, 2008, 06:32 AM
Yes, for example in Diamond and Pearl Adventures, the names are Hareta, Mitsumi and Jun. It's an side story.

IT'S NOT ANY "SIDE STORY"!

It's a completely unrelated series by different author!

When will you guys understand that POKEMON SPECIAL IS NOT THE "MAIN" POKEMON MANGA?!

There are many series, some are pretty unknown (many of them were never released outside Japan) but all are equally canonical!

Ru-Kun
December 26th, 2008, 06:46 AM
Dudes,i have no idea how a Graveller can regenerate after beeing broken into pieces.

Well they never really show how it regenerated, but I just figure that they used a healing machine, such as the ones in a Pokemon Center.

RubyJB88
December 26th, 2008, 09:13 AM
pong08, what you say explains why I still watch the anime and am a fan of it.

joehat
December 26th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Pokemon definitely die in the manga. I remember in the Pokemon Tower when an Arbok got cut in half. I wish they would animate Pokemon Special/Adventures haha. It'd be for more mature viewers IMO. But I still watch the anime as it is now too, and I enjoy it.

~Kavin~
December 26th, 2008, 12:42 PM
Pokemon definitely die in the manga. I remember in the Pokemon Tower when an Arbok got cut in half. I wish they would animate Pokemon Special/Adventures haha. It'd be for more mature viewers IMO. But I still watch the anime as it is now too, and I enjoy it.

I know right I was like POKEMON DIE? whoa........ The fact that they showed it getting cut in half like that O_O it drew me into the storyline even more. If they had more action in the anime like that I think it would bring more fans to the table.....then again....would it downgrade to the younger audiences?

joehat
December 26th, 2008, 01:01 PM
I know right I was like POKEMON DIE? whoa........ The fact that they showed it getting cut in half like that O_O it drew me into the storyline even more. If they had more action in the anime like that I think it would bring more fans to the table.....then again....would it downgrade to the younger audiences?

Haha yeah that drew me into the story as well. I always wished the anime showed more detail. It's like when a Pokemon gets hit by Hyper Beam or Solar Beam in the anime, absolutely nothing happens. I was just watching the episodes in the Whirl Islands with Lugia. Lugia used Aeroblast like 20 times and did pretty much NO damage to anything or anyone.

I remember seeing blood once or twice and it was only little cut to Misty I think. The battles need to be more detailed and have more action in the anime.

Ru-Kun
December 26th, 2008, 02:10 PM
Pokemon definitely die in the manga. I remember in the Pokemon Tower when an Arbok got cut in half. I wish they would animate Pokemon Special/Adventures haha. It'd be for more mature viewers IMO. But I still watch the anime as it is now too, and I enjoy it.

When Arbok was sliced in half it didn't die. In fact it was already dead! It was a zombie in the first place.

Here is proof- http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/363/pok_mon_adventures/chapter.22195/page.12/

Sea Guardian
December 26th, 2008, 04:14 PM
^It wasn't a zombie! We found out in the Yellow arc that this particular arbok could regenerate itself and didn't really die.

Ru-Kun
December 26th, 2008, 04:27 PM
^Oh yeah 0.0' still it didn't die.

joehat
December 26th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Hehee well you would know a lot better than I would, I didn't read that far =/

But what about the exploding Onix?

My mistake for posting the false information. Perhaps now would be a good time for me to read more!

Mileyangel
December 26th, 2008, 09:28 PM
I'm sorry, but the manga is more realistic.(if you can get past the whole Pokemon thing...) The world isn't all gummy drop kisses, teddy bear hugs, and sparkling sunshine, and things rarely go your way all of the time. Happy endings aren't the only endings. And apparently, in the anime, everybody is immortal, because there is zero death and/or aging.

The manga, like I said, is more realistic. Pokemon die, people get hurt, there are bitter-sweet endings, the characters develop physically and emotionally, and the bad guys aren't such pushovers who are only after one Pokemon. Most of all, there is ALWAYS a storyline complete with plot twists.

Don't get me wrong, I used to love the anime(before I read the manga), but it gets a little stale.

@ joehat: COMPLETELY random, but I saw your sig, and I LOVE Jim Gaffigan, too! Also Dane Cook.

joehat
December 26th, 2008, 09:55 PM
Yay Kirara!
Yay Jim Gaffigan! Dane Cook is good too, let's do a B&E!
I loooove stand up.

I wish the anime was taken more seriously. I'm actually in the midst of watching the whole thing straight through. I've never seen any AG episodes and only one D/P episode. I'm on Johto Master Quest and the filler episodes are killerrrrrrrrrr! They should take notes from an anime like Naruto, where the fillers actually mean something. Even Inuyasha's fillers beat Pokemon's. I wanna see character development and plot twists!!!!!

The manga is indeed very good, but I'm only at the chapter where Koga is first introduced.

Hejlug
December 26th, 2008, 10:40 PM
Ill ask one question to you guys:
If you were a trainer,if you were in pokemon universe(just imagine...) and you knew that your pokemon can die in each battle,would you continue on keeping them in small containers and making them fight to death?
I dont think the creator thought battling is the most important thing in pokemon.I think its more human-animals harmony.However to actually sell something they have to have action scenes with regenerating snakes and rock golems.

joehat
December 26th, 2008, 11:03 PM
Haha Hejlug what we would do if the Pokemon universe were real is a wholeee other topic.

The anime is definitely based on the human-pokemon harmony. However, most people would probably contradict my opinion by saying (and speaking the truth) in that all Ash really cares about is battling. However, he develops close friendships with his Pokemon and I'm pretty sure he'd be smart enough to not let them fight to the death.

The manga is more of how I envision the Pokemon world being though.

invisible-chan
December 27th, 2008, 01:42 AM
IT'S NOT ANY "SIDE STORY"!

It's a completely unrelated series by different author!

When will you guys understand that POKEMON SPECIAL IS NOT THE "MAIN" POKEMON MANGA?!

There are many series, some are pretty unknown (many of them were never released outside Japan) but all are equally canonical!
Thank you.

Ill ask one question to you guys:
If you were a trainer,if you were in pokemon universe(just imagine...) and you knew that your pokemon can die in each battle,would you continue on keeping them in small containers and making them fight to death?
I dont think the creator thought battling is the most important thing in pokemon.I think its more human-animals harmony.However to actually sell something they have to have action scenes with regenerating snakes and rock golems.
On PokeBalls, the Pokemon shirk and seem(that being the key word) to be comfortable, so I don't have much of a problem with it. On, battles to possible death, battles weren't really intended for that use. I general, you see them having fun, making a sport of it, if you will. When having a battle for fun, they always stop before any Pokemon can get seriously hurt. When Pokemon are killed or seriously harmed, the situation is pretty life or death in the first place. The trainer are put in as much harm as the Pokemon during those types of "battles".

Sea Guardian
December 27th, 2008, 03:54 PM
On PokeBalls, the Pokemon shirk and seem(that being the key word) to be comfortable, so I don't have much of a problem with it. On, battles to possible death, battles weren't really intended for that use. I general, you see them having fun, making a sport of it, if you will. When having a battle for fun, they always stop before any Pokemon can get seriously hurt. When Pokemon are killed or seriously harmed, the situation is pretty life or death in the first place. The trainer are put in as much harm as the Pokemon during those types of "battles".
Darn! I was just about to say that=D

Mileyangel
December 27th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Yay Kirara!
Yay Jim Gaffigan! Dane Cook is good too, let's do a B&E!
I loooove stand up.


1. Kirara is my FAVORITE anime character!!!
2. "Hey, it's Bob's birthday today."
"Ugh, I hate that guy."
"He has cake."
"Well, maybe I should say hi."
3. "ARE YOU WATCHING, DOOR KICKER?!?!"

Ahem. Back on topic. At Hejlug, all I'm saying is that zero death, although death is morbid, is not realistic. Everything that is born must one day die. While the pokemon anime is aimed at children, they could've made it so that most people over 10 don't get a cavity from all of the sugar-coated circumstances. And I agree with invisible-chan.

Netto Azure
December 27th, 2008, 04:17 PM
@Maxim: Yeah There's the Pocket Monsters Manga (With the absurdly funny Slapstick XD), the DP Adventures (Which I surprisingly liked very much), Pokemon 7 (Reminds me of Detective Conan or Magic Kaito =/) and others that are listed in Dogasu's Backpack (website)

On topic: Well I'm too lazy but I'll just link my old review (http://http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=149998)

@pong: I completely agree. On some of my old posts I Actually said that word per word. XD

Hejlug
December 27th, 2008, 11:47 PM
Okay,dont go telling me that everyone dies,i know that.But die for what?Thats useless death.

ultimoechidna
December 28th, 2008, 01:35 PM
Ill ask one question to you guys:
If you were a trainer,if you were in pokemon universe(just imagine...) and you knew that your pokemon can die in each battle,would you continue on keeping them in small containers and making them fight to death?
I dont think the creator thought battling is the most important thing in pokemon.I think its more human-animals harmony.However to actually sell something they have to have action scenes with regenerating snakes and rock golems.

I wouldn't let my Pokemon die! Return, fearow! (Clicks on run) Textbox: No! there's no running from a Trainer Battle. Me: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Serious now, I definetly wouldn't take the battle to the death. I like battling, but that's just extreme.

pong08
December 28th, 2008, 01:50 PM
@Maxim: Yeah There's the Pocket Monsters Manga (With the absurdly funny Slapstick XD), the DP Adventures (Which I surprisingly liked very much), Pokemon 7 (Reminds me of Detective Conan or Magic Kaito =/) and others that are listed in Dogasu's Backpack (website)

On topic: Well I'm too lazy but I'll just link my old review (http://http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=149998)

@pong: I completely agree. On some of my old posts I Actually said that word per word. XD

You said what per word? (Puzzled)

Vernikova
December 28th, 2008, 05:40 PM
You said what per word? (Puzzled)

He said exactly what you said.

GFA
December 28th, 2008, 06:02 PM
There not comparable, there both really good.

Mileyangel
December 28th, 2008, 06:09 PM
Okay,dont go telling me that everyone dies,i know that.But die for what?Thats useless death.

I never said anything about dying during a battle. And it's up to the trainer to decide when it's time to pull the pokemon back if it's in danger.

Thundєr
December 28th, 2008, 06:54 PM
And well, that's the point it's different from other part of the franchise, it's more mature.

Mika555
December 29th, 2008, 11:29 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Ash get turned into stone at the end of the first Pokemon movie. I know it is a kid show, but I believe even they are not limited to showing stuff like that if the show is rated PG that is, but he did not die though.

I have read Pokemon Special and Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Adventures they are both seperate story and written by different authors I think that both of them are good, but I have to read other mangas too to really judge which one I like the best. I also have to finish reading Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Adventures also before I judge it.

joehat
December 29th, 2008, 12:03 PM
Haha yeah he was turned to stone. But he was revived by the tears of the Pokemon, which is an obvious kid thing. Just like in the Spongebob movie.

pong08
December 29th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Haha yeah he was turned to stone. But he was revived by the tears of the Pokemon, which is an obvious kid thing. Just like in the Spongebob movie.

ROFL, yeah.... let me point out. That was a movie. NOT AN EPISODE, but a film, and when you compare the movies to the episodes, movies are more intense because usually films are suppoesed to be grand and "epic".
Now, if that happened in a episode, it might be a different story.

Mika555
December 29th, 2008, 07:50 PM
Haha yeah he was turned to stone. But he was revived by the tears of the Pokemon, which is an obvious kid thing. Just like in the Spongebob movie.
Yes I do remember something like that happen in the Spongebob movie as well.

ROFL, yeah.... let me point out. That was a movie. NOT AN EPISODE, but a film, and when you compare the movies to the episodes, movies are more intense because usually films are suppoesed to be grand and "epic".
Now, if that happened in a episode, it might be a different story.
Yes this is so true about the movies being more epic than the episodes.

Lash
December 29th, 2008, 08:15 PM
Manga, hands down.

I like the Anime and all, but I think the storyline in the Manga is much better. The Manga has a far better buildup, and of course more action. The battles are more... descriptive? I don't know how to explain it, but a Manga battle is a good battle. The Manga doesn't have explosions when Razor Leaf and Thunderbolt collide.

joehat
December 29th, 2008, 09:47 PM
I completely agree with you Lash. I like the manga because like you said, more action, plus it actually has character development and plot twists.

Ah and pong08, don't forget that Ash actually did die once in the anime.

I really wish the creators had something better in mind when they had the Pokemon revive Ash with their tears. I mean I know it was for kids and all but..gah. But Pokemon obviously have crazy supernatural powers (not like that's not obvious enough haha) plus tear revival and the ghosts reviving Ash when he was killed at Pokemon Tower.

Mileyangel
December 30th, 2008, 12:23 AM
I really wish the creators had something better in mind when they had the Pokemon revive Ash with their tears. I mean I know it was for kids and all but..gah. But Pokemon obviously have crazy supernatural powers (not like that's not obvious enough haha) plus tear revival and the ghosts reviving Ash when he was killed at Pokemon Tower.

Yeah. Unfortunately, that didn't happen for our 5 Dex holders.

_cynthia_
December 30th, 2008, 02:41 AM
of course the manga is better than the anime.
all characters in the manga have really strong pokemon but ash and co.'s pokemon are SO weak.
dawn and platina both have a piplup decades ago but dawn's still haven't evolve!!
and dawn has a buneary while platina has a lopunny...
AND the anime is so BORING~
every episode waste time on team rocket stealing pokemon, found by ash and co,beaten by ash and co, send flying or something like that...

Achamo~Torchic
December 30th, 2008, 04:05 AM
I like manga better..
ANIME SUCKS >.<

ASH STUPID!!! AND every episode have a same plot with team rocket >.<
I am bored that team rocket always.. appear in all region?!! >.<

Ash sooo stupid!! >.< He even not get smarter after beat a league?!! >.<
The pikachu always lose!! But the pikachu already go with him to some regions!!! DOesn't it in High-Level?!!!!!

¡No Hablo Inglés!
December 30th, 2008, 06:09 AM
I've never been a huge fan of the animé, but when I was younger of course I found it appealing. I mean, what child wouldn't? xD
Although I've only read the RBGY and some of the GSC arc of the manga, I have found that the storyline is far superior to that of the animé. It's really far from repetitive, whereas the animé is basically the same thing every few episodes.

I'm not saying the animé is just outright bad, since I've been told it really picked up in the DP series, which I haven't watched, but I much prefer the storyline of the manga.

Mileyangel
December 30th, 2008, 02:43 PM
I've never been a huge fan of the animé, but when I was younger of course I found it appealing. I mean, what child wouldn't? xD
Although I've only read the RBGY and some of the GSC arc of the manga, I have found that the storyline is far superior to that of the animé. It's really far from repetitive, whereas the animé is basically the same thing every few episodes.

I'm not saying the animé is just outright bad, since I've been told it really picked up in the DP series, which I haven't watched, but I much prefer the storyline of the manga.

There is not a WORD of that that I don't agree with. Like what _cynthia_ said, the plot is ALWAYS that Ash and co. meet the character of the day, Team Rocket comes up with some half-a*sed plan, they try to catch Pikachu, who in turn sends them "blasting off again!!"

Vernikova
December 30th, 2008, 03:39 PM
of course the manga is better than the anime.
all characters in the manga have really strong pokemon but ash and co.'s pokemon are SO weak.
Pikachu, Gliscor, Charizard, Sceptile, Pidgeot, Heracross, Buizel, Blaziken, Venasaur, Beautifly, Glaceon, Steelix, Gyardos, Swellow, Lapras, Grotle, Donphan, Snorlax, Kingler, Tauros, Croagunk, Crobat, Ambipom, Mamoswine, Starmie, Corsola.
dawn and platina both have a piplup decades ago but dawn's still haven't evolve!!
Hikari said that she didn't want to evolve Pocha in an episode IIRC.
every episode waste time on team rocket stealing pokemon, found by ash and co,beaten by ash and co, send flying or something like that...It doesn't happen every episode.

There is not a WORD of that that I don't agree with. Like what _cynthia_ said, the plot is ALWAYS that Ash and co. meet the character of the day, Team Rocket comes up with some half-a*sed plan, they try to catch Pikachu, who in turn sends them "blasting off again!!" They haven't met a CoTD for a few episodes now.

DOesn't it in High-Level?!!!!!The animé doesn't use levels.

Yes this is so true about the movies being more epic than the episodes.I actually thought that The Charge of Team Galactic episodes were better than some movies.

Mileyangel
December 30th, 2008, 03:57 PM
*sigh* You're obviously an anime fan, aren't you? That's not a bad thing. but why does Ash ditch all of those decent Pokemon he spends so much time with at the end of nearly every season? To start over?

Vernikova
December 30th, 2008, 04:04 PM
*sigh* You're obviously an anime fan, aren't you? That's not a bad thing. but why does Ash ditch all of those decent Pokemon he spends so much time with at the end of nearly every season? To start over?

He ditches them because he tries not to use the same ones over and over, besides Pikachu, to catch more and train them. Like he did with some pokémon I listed above.

My avatar shows that I'm a Pokémon animé fan.

Ru-Kun
December 30th, 2008, 04:39 PM
He ditches them because he tries not to use the same ones over and over, besides Pikachu, to catch more and train them. Like he did with some pokémon I listed above.

My avatar shows that I'm a Pokémon animé fan.

Okay but when he ditches them why does he get all these weak Pokemon then not train them?

Vernikova
December 30th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Okay but when he ditches them why does he get all these weak Pokemon then not train them?

You mean like Gligar, Tailow, Chimchar, Turtwig, Phanphy, Snorunt, Buizel, Treecko, and Chikorita?

_cynthia_
December 31st, 2008, 03:10 AM
Don't ash pity the pokemon he ditched?!?
I mean, they're (most of them) all stuck in a pokeball in professer oak's lab or something...
i know oak lets them out sometimes, but...

and Pikachu, Gliscor, Charizard, Sceptile, Pidgeot, Heracross, Buizel, Blaziken, Venasaur, Beautifly, Glaceon, Steelix, Gyardos, Swellow, Lapras, Grotle, Donphan, Snorlax, Kingler, Tauros, Croagunk, Crobat, Ambipom, Mamoswine, Starmie, Corsola are still weak if they don't receive enough training...

Vernikova
December 31st, 2008, 08:59 AM
Don't ash pity the pokemon he ditched?!?
I mean, they're (most of them) all stuck in a pokeball in professer oak's lab or something...
i know oak lets them out sometimes, but...They're out of their pokéballs. They are let out into his backyard.

and Pikachu, Gliscor, Charizard, Sceptile, Pidgeot, Heracross, Buizel, Blaziken, Venasaur, Beautifly, Glaceon, Steelix, Gyardos, Swellow, Lapras, Grotle, Donphan, Snorlax, Kingler, Tauros, Croagunk, Crobat, Ambipom, Mamoswine, Starmie, Corsola are still weak if they don't receive enough training...

How do they evolve if they don't recieve enough training then? I forgot Muk it seems.

Wallace Berlitz
December 31st, 2008, 10:13 AM
I actually dislike anime. Because anime dont have continue story. Manga has continue story in every seasons and series. Anime has each different story in every episodes. And people say Pokemon is childish because of Ash like "PIKACHU! ~Blah blah blah~". And Ash is too action. I hate the anime company make Ash appear in every series and region. Can't they use another character? Well I still think anime is for kids. Why? Because it is like cartoon. And almost the same.

Travel... Meet a new guy or Pokemon... Team Rocket has a bad idea... Then battle with Team Rocket... Team Rocket's machine steals whatever Pokemon... Ash or his friends defeat them.

This kind of story always repeat and repeat. If they continue stories in every episodes, it will be nice. So that's the reason I dislike anime...

Anyway, it is just personal opinion.

joehat
December 31st, 2008, 10:22 AM
The anime basically revovles around Ash collecting Gym badges, stopping Team Rocket from stealing Pikachu, and taking down whatever evil organization pops up in the new region. There is no character development or plot besides the three things I just said. Just an episode or two for each Gym battle with tons of filler between (mind you, I'm still on the Johto arc). Maybe if the filler focused more on the characters, and not the character of the day, we could get somewhere. A good filler shows background on your protagonists and antagonists, and this is where the anime = FAIL.

Vernikova
December 31st, 2008, 10:34 AM
The anime basically revovles around Ash collecting Gym badges, stopping Team Rocket from stealing Pikachu, and taking down whatever evil organization pops up in the new region. There is no character development or plot besides the three things I just said.
You forgot contests. How is there no character development? It happens throughout the 3-4 years that the region takes place so you can't expect character development every 10 episodes can you?

Just an episode or two for each Gym battle with tons of filler between (mind you, I'm still on the Johto arc). Maybe if the filler focused more on the characters, and not the character of the day, we could get somewhere. A good filler shows background on your protagonists and antagonists, and this is where the anime = FAIL.
Your on Johto? I pray for you then because that is nothing but filler in the later parts and some ealier on. Advanced Generation and Diamond and Peral are much better IMO.

Anyway, if the fillers contain character devleopment, they aren't really fillers because something imporatant happens in the episode.

I mean, I know that you guys can the animé because you want to but can you at least do it for good reasons like Wallace Berlitz?

Well I still think anime is for kids. Why? Because it is like cartoon. And almost the same.
I don't understand what you're saying here.

Wallace Berlitz
December 31st, 2008, 11:39 AM
well I'm sorry. Let me go more specific.

Well I still think anime is for kids. Why? Because it is like cartoon. And almost the same.

Well usually, a cartoon has different story in each Episode or just a event that is not very special. Even I like manga more, but I still watch anime. But I didn't watch the whole series. I just watch the interesting episode like Misty or May returns or Battle Frontier episodes.

Anyway, nice signature. Nice reunion~!

Vernikova
December 31st, 2008, 11:53 AM
Oh, alright then, I see your point.

Cool Pichu. It looks like it has the same ear as the movie 12 Pichu.

joehat
December 31st, 2008, 01:50 PM
Haha you're right. I was a bit hasty with my post. I can't really judge on character development anyway, being as I'm only on Johto. And I wouldn't can the anime, I really like it. Also, I love how years pass in each region but no one ever seems to age. That kinda gets to me. Does this happen in the manga? I haven't read very far into it.

I also agree with Wallace, you've a nice signature S. Magumarashi!

Vernikova
December 31st, 2008, 02:09 PM
IIRC, the characters age in the manga. But I haven't been keeping up with it because of other things so I don't remember. But I'm almost certain that they do.

Mileyangel
December 31st, 2008, 09:27 PM
I actually dislike anime. Because anime dont have continue story. Manga has continue story in every seasons and series. Anime has each different story in every episodes. And people say Pokemon is childish because of Ash like "PIKACHU! ~Blah blah blah~". And Ash is too action. I hate the anime company make Ash appear in every series and region. Can't they use another character? Well I still think anime is for kids. Why? Because it is like cartoon. And almost the same.

Travel... Meet a new guy or Pokemon... Team Rocket has a bad idea... Then battle with Team Rocket... Team Rocket's machine steals whatever Pokemon... Ash or his friends defeat them.

This kind of story always repeat and repeat. If they continue stories in every episodes, it will be nice. So that's the reason I dislike anime...

Anyway, it is just personal opinion.

Ugh, and they discard the female characters like they're handbags.

And S. Magumarashi, you're right about being more specific. I hate it when people can't back up their reasons with a legitimate reason. I used to love the anime when I was younger, but I noticed how it peeved me how people automatically assumed that since I liked Pokemon, I watched the anime. After I started reading Pokespecial and watching more advanced anime(Inuyasha, Full Metal Alchemist, etc.), I started to like the anime less and less. I still watch it sometimes for old time's sake, but I don't really approve of some of the new episodes. My fondest memories lie in the classics.

Also, Team Rocket gets very stale after a while. The manga Team Rocket is ruthless and efficient, and takes a lot more than one Pikachu to blast them off.

Thundєr
January 1st, 2009, 03:24 AM
Episode after episode we see the team rocket being defeated by Ash, later winning badges, and entering in the respective pokemon league of the region, and losing in the same one.
But well, that's a part of the franchise, the kids love it, and the cycle it's renewed with each new generation of children.
This formula has worked for them until now, have made a lot of money with it. And I doubt they leave the scheme, until the day that stops from producing money.

invisible-chan
January 1st, 2009, 04:19 AM
Heracross, Lapras, Tauros, Corsola are still weak if they don't receive enough training...


How do they evolve if they don't recieve enough training then? I forgot Muk it seems.
First of all, not to be a smart... y pants.... (I'm not sure what my cursing extent is aloud here), but those Pokemon I left don't/weren't evolve(d). Also, it seems we are are getting off topic. This doesn't seem to answer Hejlug's questions anymore.

Sea Guardian
January 1st, 2009, 03:08 PM
Ugh, and they discard the female characters like they're handbags.
I know whats with that?
I used to love the anime when I was younger, but I noticed how it peeved me how people automatically assumed that since I liked Pokemon, I watched the anime. After I started reading Pokespecial and watching more advanced anime(Inuyasha, Full Metal Alchemist, etc.), I started to like the anime less and less.
The same thing happened to me. Yay for Anime!
I still watch it sometimes for old time's sake, but I don't really approve of some of the new episodes. My fondest memories lie in the classics.
The first season was the best. I only watch the movies when they come out now. The thing that really bugs me is that in the anime the only pokemon that die(as far as I know) are Latios and Lucario, those are two of my favorites. It's like the people who make the anime hate me

GFA
January 1st, 2009, 03:41 PM
They don't treat chick like handbags in the manga, look at Agatha, Blue, Crystal, Erika, Lorelei, & Sabrina. Also at leat the anime isn't like the Barby: "I'm going to grow up, be a *****, have the worlds biggest breasts, and clean the house!" *Unless you look at Haruka...*

& Yes the manga characters actually age the orginal 3 are *gasp!* 16, and the youngest people have always been 11, never 10. *I refuse to count Yellow when she met Red*

.:Kanto:.
January 1st, 2009, 03:55 PM
A bit off topic but does anyone know where I can buy or read the Manga?

Vernikova
January 1st, 2009, 03:58 PM
Squirtle;4243923']A bit off topic but does anyone know where I can buy or read the Manga?

What is "The manga"? VIZ is going to start selling it again next year but there's a thread with scanslations here or you can PM someone to send it to you or go onto a website that I forgot the name of *or* you can import it.

joehat
January 1st, 2009, 06:19 PM
Just check out onemanga or mangafox. I bought some volumes of Pokemon Special and The Electric Tale of Pikachu at Borders.

Mileyangel
January 1st, 2009, 09:40 PM
I know whats with that?

The same thing happened to me. Yay for Anime!

The first season was the best. I only watch the movies when they come out now. The thing that really bugs me is that in the anime the only pokemon that die(as far as I know) are Latios and Lucario, those are two of my favorites. It's like the people who make the anime hate me

Oh, my God, soul sister!

LeSmexyMongoose
January 2nd, 2009, 09:51 PM
Playing the games from red/blue to ruby/sapphire and watching the anime,i never thought of reading the mangas.
The storyline in the anime always looked average to me.Now i finally decided to read the mangas,but the thing is i want to know:how many types are there?Do they share the same universe?

I used to be obsessed!!!! (Still am)
I remember getting a pack of comics of the "Pikachu strikes back" series or something like that >.>

Pokemon is very dangerous and addicting! Dx

Shiva
January 2nd, 2009, 11:00 PM
The stuff in the manga actually make sense. In the anime and the games, you can only carry 6 pokemon with you, but in the manga you can carry as much as you wanted! I remember a part in a manga where Lt. Surge gets beat up by some masked dude, and uses his 129391238192398131 electrodes to self destruct and escape. Now, wouldn't carrying thirty thousand pokemon in real life be helpful in a dangerous situation?

LeSmexyMongoose
January 2nd, 2009, 11:16 PM
The stuff in the manga actually make sense. In the anime and the games, you can only carry 6 pokemon with you, but in the manga you can carry as much as you wanted! I remember a part in a manga where Lt. Surge gets beat up by some masked dude, and uses his 129391238192398131 electrodes to self destruct and escape. Now, wouldn't carrying thirty thousand pokemon in real life be helpful in a dangerous situation?

Would it? o.O
Well...
This is just a theory...
I think the PC storage can be set with an option where you can set any location for your pokemon to be stored.
That's just my theory!!! >w<

invisible-chan
January 3rd, 2009, 12:43 AM
The stuff in the manga actually make sense. In the anime and the games, you can only carry 6 pokemon with you, but in the manga you can carry as much as you wanted! I remember a part in a manga where Lt. Surge gets beat up by some masked dude, and uses his 129391238192398131 electrodes to self destruct and escape. Now, wouldn't carrying thirty thousand pokemon in real life be helpful in a dangerous situation?
That kind of contradicted yourself. While I agree, having several Pokemon with you would be a good thing, having more than a few of any Pokemon using selfdestruct at once, is both incredibly stupid, dangerous and wouldn't make sense. Using smog would be much more useful. *nodnod*

Personally, I think if Pokemon were to be somehow relayed into real life, I think a lot of the rules and limits would be gone. Considering it started off a limited gameboy game... yeah. I think the six Pokemon thing in real life would be more like a rule for competitive battling than actually being able to keep them with you.

LeSmexyMongoose
January 3rd, 2009, 01:30 AM
That kind of contradicted yourself. While I agree, having several Pokemon with you would be a good thing, having more than a few of any Pokemon using selfdestruct at once, is both incredibly stupid, dangerous and wouldn't make sense. Using smog would be much more useful. *nodnod*

Personally, I think if Pokemon were to be somehow relayed into real life, I think a lot of the rules and limits would be gone. Considering it started off a limited gameboy game... yeah. I think the six Pokemon thing in real life would be more like a rule for competitive battling than actually being able to keep them with you.

So true >.>
Most likely breeders can breed as much pokemon as they want,
Farms (like the Milktank Moo Moo Milk farms) can have as much Milktanks as they want.
As for trainers, it wouldn't make scense to keep a battle with 297382683686382 pokemon or something. The rule basicly aplies for trainer's I guess.

pikaangel
January 3rd, 2009, 08:28 AM
One thing I don't get in anime is how do they know which pokemon is in which pokeball
I mean in the manga you can actually see through the pokeball

Lullabyse
January 3rd, 2009, 08:42 AM
The Arbok who was cut in half regenerated itself, Koga makes that clear to us in Yellow... o_O
I think at one point though, Giovanni killed two or three Magmars. You didn't really see them, but he had his Cloyster freeze them and was all like, "Finish the job..."
And Maxim? It might not be THE Pokemon manga, but it was the one the creator of Pokemon said most resembled his ideals. It's long and has a good plot, plus it's one of the only ones in English as you said. Think before you get mad, hon.

joehat
January 3rd, 2009, 11:41 AM
I think the deal with carrying more Pokemon has to do with where you began your journey. Ash and Gary for instance, are like "official" trainers. They carry a Pokedex and they started their journey at a Pokemon laboratory. Thus, once they have six Pokemon, any newly caught ones are transferred.

Now, remember the episode,"Charmander, The Stray Pokemon." Charmanders' trainer had some thirty Pokemon with him. He (I assume) doesn't have a Pokedex and just started catching Pokemon on his own. Therefore, where would the Pokemon be sent? Although he can probably defeat gyms and collect badges, IMO he's not the type of trainer that Ash and Gary are.

This has to do with the anime.
PokeSpecial, of course, is completely different.

Mileyangel
January 3rd, 2009, 06:53 PM
One thing I don't get in anime is how do they know which pokemon is in which pokeball
I mean in the manga you can actually see through the pokeball

I know. In the anime, it's like, toss a Pokeball and hope you're lucky.

Thundєr
January 3rd, 2009, 07:01 PM
Hey, remember that Ritchie had marked his Pokeballs.

Netto Azure
January 3rd, 2009, 07:08 PM
Tu Hablas Espanol Osrow? Me hablo puquito en Espanol XD
Well I can't remember all the episodes with Richie on it since I haven't been able to watch the anime much in the US (We don't have cable and I don't have much 'net time) So Richie actually MARKED the Pokeballs to know what's inside. =O I actually thought that see through PokeBalls was quite unique in PokeSpe.

Thundєr
January 3rd, 2009, 07:41 PM
So Richie actually MARKED the Pokeballs to know what's inside. =O I actually thought that see through PokeBalls was quite unique in PokeSpe.

With stickers (star-shaped ones xD) in fact, he says that way is more easier to remember , what Pokemon he owns

Tu Hablas Espanol Osrow? Me hablo puquito en Espanol XD

Hey, you do great.

Mileyangel
January 4th, 2009, 10:13 AM
Tu Hablas Espanol Osrow? Me hablo puquito en Espanol XD


Yeah, my school doesn't make much of an effort to teach Spanish, and I didn't take it this year, so I'm barely above Dora the Explorer level in my Spanish vocabulary. I know a lot of Japanese words, though.

joehat
January 4th, 2009, 11:40 AM
Hmm. I thought Richie only had six Pokemon with him?

Ah..Donde el bano? Hamburguesa de queso. That's about the extent of my Spanish. If I went abroad, I could pretty much say Hi, Bye, How are you, My name is, Where's the bathroom, and Where's the cheeseburgers? Woo!

Je suis un pamplemousse, don moi te croissaint! That's french, but I'm Italian. I wanna learn Italian! And Japanese! Difficult...

OK yeah I'm done. I love how Ash just picks a Pokeball and is never wrong. Also, don't all of Richie's Pokemon have the same marking on them? I think he said he put the markings on them just to differentiate them from other trainers' Pokeballs.

Mileyangel
January 4th, 2009, 03:38 PM
Hmm. I thought Richie only had six Pokemon with him?

Ah..Donde el bano? Hamburguesa de queso. That's about the extent of my Spanish. If I went abroad, I could pretty much say Hi, Bye, How are you, My name is, Where's the bathroom, and Where's the cheeseburgers? Woo!

Je suis un pamplemousse, don moi te croissaint! That's french, but I'm Italian. I wanna learn Italian! And Japanese! Difficult...

OK yeah I'm done. I love how Ash just picks a Pokeball and is never wrong. Also, don't all of Richie's Pokemon have the same marking on them? I think he said he put the markings on them just to differentiate them from other trainers' Pokeballs.

I can SPEAK Japanese, but not read it. And Richie should've made the star markings a different color for each Pokemon, at least.

joehat
January 4th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Haha nice! Japanese seems like it'd be fun to learn.

And yes, different colored stickers would make more sense.

Thundєr
January 4th, 2009, 05:45 PM
OK yeah I'm done. I love how Ash just picks a Pokeball and is never wrong. Also, don't all of Richie's Pokemon have the same marking on them? I think he said he put the markings on them just to differentiate them from other trainers' Pokeballs.

You're right, I forgot about that.

I can SPEAK Japanese, but not read it. And Richie should've made the star markings a different color for each Pokemon, at least.

Knowing japanese, there's no need for subbed things.

The Ebon Blade
January 4th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Just check out onemanga or mangafox. I bought some volumes of Pokemon Special and The Electric Tale of Pikachu at Borders.

ive havnt chcked in about a month but onemange still only has stuff in battle fronteir... atleast thats what ive seen

joehat
January 4th, 2009, 06:28 PM
ive havnt chcked in about a month but onemange still only has stuff in battle fronteir... atleast thats what ive seen

Mangafox is definitely up to date.

invisible-chan
January 5th, 2009, 02:44 AM
One thing I don't get in anime is how do they know which pokemon is in which pokeball
I mean in the manga you can actually see through the pokeball
From what I can tell, Ash and Co. keep their PokéBalls in a certain order. Much like in the games where [insert Pokémon name here] goes first in your party and [inert other Pokémon] is the last one.


And Maxim? It might not be THE Pokemon manga, but it was the one the creator of Pokemon said most resembled his ideals. It's long and has a good plot, plus it's one of the only ones in English as you said. Think before you get mad, hon.
Tajiri said that Special came closest to conveying his WORLD, but he only mentioned that. No word of situations, plots, characters, etc. Not to mention that he said that years ago.To repeat what someone else said on Serebii. Also one of the reasons i can't bring myself to support CrystalxGold and barely YellowxRed.
I can SPEAK Japanese, but not read it. And Richie should've made the star markings a different color for each Pokemon, at least.
>=X But reading is the best part! It shows that you know what you are talking about. Knowing random vocabulary words doesn't mean you know Japanese. Grammar is a completely horrible an important part of the this or any language. Do you actually speak it or is it something like, "I suki nekos desu. They are so kawaii." Please tell me I'm wrong or I may have to stab someone in the face. I'm enjoying this topic and I don't want to have to go insane.

Mika555
January 5th, 2009, 08:31 AM
I actually thought that The Charge of Team Galactic episodes were better than some movies.

Well then I guess, will have to watch these episode myself to determine if they are better than the movies.


From what I can tell, Ash and Co. keep their PokéBalls in a certain order. Much like in the games where [insert Pokémon name here] goes first in your party and [inert other Pokémon] is the last one.


To repeat what someone else said on Serebii. Also one of the reasons i can't bring myself to support CrystalxGold and barely YellowxRed.

>=X But reading is the best part! It shows that you know what you are talking about. Knowing random vocabulary words doesn't mean you know Japanese. Grammar is a completely horrible an important part of the this or any language. Do you actually speak it or is it something like, "I suki nekos desu. They are so kawaii." Please tell me I'm wrong or I may have to stab someone in the face. I'm enjoying this topic and I don't want to have to go insane.

That is true the video games you cannot see inside of the video games Pokeballs either and you only know which Pokemon is which by clicking on the word 'Pokemon'. Both the anime and the Pokemon Spceial have different interpetion from Pokemon from the video games from each other.

About the pairings it is your opinion. There are also some pairings I do not really care for some pairings or really dislike and I can kind of see what you are talking about because Silver and Crystal did not have much interaction in the Pokemon Special and their game counterparts who they are based off of are rivals.

Also there is said to be another manga called Pocket Monster Zensho which I heard was closer to the games than Pokemon Special, but I have not read it though and it has not been released or translated in English.

Yes I do like the Pokemon Special people and I read it so do not interpet my words that I hate it and as a matter of fact that the mangas I read this far has a different plots from the games which is in my opinion a good thing because if all of the Pokemon mangas had the same exactly plot as the video games they will get to uninteresting for me.

Hejlug
January 5th, 2009, 08:50 AM
I think both onemanga and mangafox miss a lot of episodes.

Netto Azure
January 5th, 2009, 10:57 AM
I think both onemanga and mangafox miss a lot of episodes.

I know this is off-topic but to answer your question: No...Mangafox isn't missing any CHAPTERS up to Vol.28 (Even though I wish I can say "Episodes" XD) and Onemanga has the DragonGuard scanlation up to the end of the Yellow Arc.

The reason we don't have Vol.29 & 30 (The latest volume from Japan) on Mangafox is because Chuang Yi has not translated them yet. (Most scans in Mangafox are the "Official" Chuang Yi Singaporean translations)

Based on what I can see here in PC or the PokeScans club for that matter (The only place next to DragonGuard that has an active PokeSpe scanlation community) is that Ryan is translating the Chinese PokeSpe Vol.29 (Yes I pick option #1) and also I would like to thank Durial again for scanning the recent volumes released in Mangafox.

Also Viz is going to re-release full volumes of PokeSpe in the US starting June-July
Well that's what's on the top of my head anyways. =D

Ok for on-topicness...The anime is getting better but diverged it's storyline from the games quite a bit...Yes PokeSpe also does this to quite an extent but the fresh storylines and engaging characters really makes it...awesome to say the least. ^_^

Hejlug
January 5th, 2009, 12:29 PM
Sorry,my english isnt the best.By episodes i mean chapters.
Maybe i mixed mangafox with something else.
PS.Off topic,but why are the pages in high quality 200 kilobyte jpeg images?Png format will probably offer better compression algorithm,smaller size for 'grayscale' images.

invisible-chan
January 9th, 2009, 11:44 PM
That is true the video games you cannot see inside of the video games Pokeballs either and you only know which Pokemon is which by clicking on the word 'Pokemon'. Both the anime and the Pokemon Spceial have different interpetion from Pokemon from the video games from each other.

About the pairings it is your opinion. There are also some pairings I do not really care for some pairings or really dislike and I can kind of see what you are talking about because Silver and Crystal did not have much interaction in the Pokemon Special and their game counterparts who they are based off of are rivals.

Also there is said to be another manga called Pocket Monster Zensho which I heard was closer to the games than Pokemon Special, but I have not read it though and it has not been released or translated in English.

Yes I do like the Pokemon Special people and I read it so do not interpet my words that I hate it and as a matter of fact that the mangas I read this far has a different plots from the games which is in my opinion a good thing because if all of the Pokemon mangas had the same exactly plot as the video games they will get to uninteresting for me.

I really quite agree with you on all of your points. I've heard about PMZ, too and I want to read it. I keep reading about the Golden Boys Pokémon manga which is about second gen. I want to read that one as well. Actually, People have also accused me of hating the manga as well. Then I tell them to go back and read my post. -.-;

Mika555
January 12th, 2009, 02:14 PM
I really quite agree with you on all of your points. I've heard about PMZ, too and I want to read it. I keep reading about the Golden Boys Pokémon manga which is about second gen. I want to read that one as well. Actually, People have also accused me of hating the manga as well. Then I tell them to go back and read my post. -.-;
I want the read Golden Boys as well I heard of it. I try searching for other Pokemon mangas on the internet that are out of stock or are not sold in the country where I live.
I will admit that the Pokemon Special does have it pros, but it also has it cons as well just like the anime.

GSC arc
One was mention earlier so I am not going to repeat it. I wonder why they let Pryce get sent to another dimension. What will the writers of Pokemon Special will do if Game Freak decides to bring him back in a future game as they can easily bring Pryce back as they did Jasmine though the writer could find a way for him to escape it.

In the FRLG saga the writers did not developed Blue's parents character and they had no dialogue and makes it seems like they are not important in the story. They did not give Red a backstory which seems ironic since he his the first main character to appear about what happen to any of his parents or any other relative.


In the DPPt arc
I notice that Johanna, a playable character mother from the games has not made an appearance in DPPt arc despite the fact she is a Pokemon Coordinator and is seen in the Master Rank of the video games I mean they gave Norman an important role in the RS arc and he is the Gym Leader. I thought that she should have a least appeared in the first chapter of the DPPt and appeared late in the Master Rank Contest. Bebe has not made an appearance yet even though the DPPt protagonist has been to Hearthome twice. Also Jupiter one of the Team Galatic commanders there is no excuse why Jupiter should have not appeared earlier the Pokemon Special I mean she has already appeared in both the anime and Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Adventures

the bitter end.
January 12th, 2009, 02:20 PM
So the manga, the anime is just a repetitive pile of junk, the manga is a plot filled book of awesomeness.

Pokemon Manga> Pokemon Anime

Netto Azure
January 12th, 2009, 03:01 PM
I Do remember seeing a website which had scanlations of "Pokemon Journey" can't remember where though. XD
Golden Boys? Never really finished from what I heard but I would still like to read more Pokemon Manga's. I'm not sure I would understand the Slap-stick in "Pocket Monsters" though. =/

Well Mika, I asked that question of how come Pryce is sent swirling through the time-space continuum while Ruby gets HIS wish of bringing everyone back. >=O

Well yes in the FRLG saga, Blues parents didn't do anything except being "the damsel in distress" But we have to remember that the 'Dex holders WERE TURNED INTO STONE for an entire arc so...maybe more character development in the DPP arc?
And yes...we definitely need some back story for Red. He's the frekin' Kanto-Johto League Champion for crying out loud! Maybe add Yellow in there too!

Well in FRLG games we find out the Daisy is also a Coordinator...so maybe we can add that to the list of DPP stuff. But who are Platina's parents anyway in PokeSpe DPP?

Mika555
January 12th, 2009, 07:25 PM
I did not know you have answered that question. I am sorry if I repeated your question. I agree with you Netto Azure both Red and could use a backstory and that flashback of Yellow in the Yellow arc did not really tell us much about her either. I hope there will be more character development in DPPt.

Yes Daisy is a coordinator also I wonder if she will play an important role in the DPPt arc. I think Platina's father was that man that was Professor Rowan assistant and he was call Sir Berlitz in the summaries on serebii. I do not know who here mother is though.

pikaangel
January 13th, 2009, 04:18 PM
They only told us the small back story about red and yellow
Wasn't platina's dad the one who told dia and pearl her real name

invisible-chan
January 13th, 2009, 07:58 PM
I Do remember seeing a website which had scanlations of "Pokemon Journey" can't remember where though. XD
Golden Boys? Never really finished from what I heard but I would still like to read more Pokemon Manga's. I'm not sure I would understand the Slap-stick in "Pocket Monsters" though. =/
From what I've read of Golden Boys, I love it. I really want to get to Chris though... I'm pretty sure she'd be a more accurate representation of my idea of her that the anime and PokéSupé. As for Pocket Monsters, the art offs me a bit, but the comedy might my amusing.

Well Mika, I asked that question of how come Pryce is sent swirling through the time-space continuum while Ruby gets HIS wish of bringing everyone back. >=O
Exactly! It's not fair! I'm also mad that he was portrayed as a mean guy who kidnapped children. Sure we learn otherwise, but he's still a kidnapper. I was pretty upset at the way they portrayed other characters as well, but I should stop. I'll start another rant.

Well yes in the FRLG saga, Blues parents didn't do anything except being "the damsel in distress" But we have to remember that the 'Dex holders WERE TURNED INTO STONE for an entire arc so...maybe more character development in the DPP arc?
And yes...we definitely need some back story for Red. He's the frekin' Kanto-Johto League Champion for crying out loud! Maybe add Yellow in there too!
That was probably one of the first things I noticed. When I first read it, I was wondering, "So when are we gonna see Red'd mom?" I don't recall them including Copycat. =( She was mah favorite side character. (Please redirect me if I'm wrong, but I really can't remember seeing her)

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Mileyangel
January 14th, 2009, 12:02 PM
I HOPE that they bring Pryce back! He was awesome!!

And Red TOTALLY needs a backstory. At least Yellow has an uncle!

RubyJB88
January 14th, 2009, 03:59 PM
You mean the fisherman? I thought that was a generic term.

Mika555
January 14th, 2009, 05:04 PM
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I have not seen Copycat either. I wonder where Red's mother was too and why she did not appear in any of the arc and not seen the writers just made it seem like Red just came out of thin air. May be someone that knows Japanese should send the writer of Pokemon Special a letter about that. I know what you mean about the portaryal of the characters like Elite Four members and Gym Leaders, but there was this movie based off another video game and it was far much worse and most of the character that were good and neutral in the video game was portrayed to be evil and they ended up dying with no backstory was given to them in the movie at all.

Mileyangel
January 14th, 2009, 05:39 PM
You mean the fisherman? I thought that was a generic term.

No, trust me. In the Volume 25 Character Bios, Yellow's bio states that she has an uncle.