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Angela
January 9th, 2009, 07:39 AM
Okay, your on a train station and one of the trains has gone crazy and wants to taste some blood (it's out of control), and your standing by the thing that has to be pulled to change tracks,


The train is currently driving like crazy at two total strangers, that are stuck and you can save them by pulling the thingy, but if you do then it will hit one of your loved ones, whom is stuck on the other other tracks,

What would you do,

would you save your loved one or would you save the total strangers?



After you answer this, then I'm gonna have to ask you to define love, what is it to you, what does it mean for you, do you love somebody, have you loved somebody, do you feel there are many types of love?

jasonresno
January 9th, 2009, 08:03 AM
Oh no. This brings me back to my high school Philosophy class.

You save the loved one, of course. I think it's a good question and it can say alot about what we deem as the value in human life but my mom/fiance/brother/dad/friend will always mean more to me than some random pair of strangers.

Gold warehouse
January 9th, 2009, 08:15 AM
Obviously the loved one, the strangers could be serial killers for all you know but then again they could be the nicest people in the world.

Soul Eater
January 9th, 2009, 08:25 AM
I would definitely save my loved one. I mean why would I save two strangers? if they are strangers, they don't know me and I don't know them. D: Besides, my loved ones are really important to me, I wouldnt let them die.

Everyone already knows about my love. So we'll skip the details and go right to what I love means to me.

Anyway, to me, from what I've experienced, love isn't just feeling all good and happy because you have boyfriend/girlfriend. It doesn't mean that you'll now be the happiest person of all either, although you are able to feel that way. To me, love is having a strong bond with the person you are with. They are there because they will try to make you feel better when you need a hug, 'I love you', or even a kiss.

I have a very VERY strong bond with my boyfriend.

Mitchman
January 9th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Call me a wacko but i would save the stragners. But only if one of them i s a cute girl and seems nice. The love one though has to be someone i really actually hate. And you never know for saving her she might be the love of your life. But you could do this untie the loved one and save the strangers. Its possible but you need super skills.

processr
January 9th, 2009, 10:52 AM
Ah, I'm in the same boat as jasonresno in that I was posed a similar question in Philosophy at the beginning of last term. Our's was slightly different in that your choices were to save your child or save a trainload of people (not just one or two people). I think we all agreed that we would save the child, but that the whole situation was a farce because of the improbability of such a situation occurring.

So yeah, I'd save the loved ones. I'd never be able to look my family members in the face again if I didn't. =/

Rockéttes
January 9th, 2009, 01:05 PM
Common sense would tell you to save the two strangers, but I'm sure nobody* would do such a thing. I know I wouldn't.

But, as jasonresno said, it really says a lot about how much we value human life. Let's think about this from a different perpective: What if you were the 'loved one'? Would you risk your own life to save the two strangers? Would you tell whoever it was at the 'switch' to pull it? I know I would, but that's just what my religion teaches me to do.

Or what if you were one of the strangers? Would you forgive the person at the switch for not pulling it?

Anyway, yeah; tough question. I honestly think that pulling the switch would be the right thing to do, but I totally understand why you wouldn't want to.

* Call me a wacko but i would save the stragners. But only if one of them i s a cute girl and seems nice. The love one though has to be someone i really actually hate. And you never know for saving her she might be the love of your life. But you could do this untie the loved one and save the strangers. Its possible but you need super skills.

... or not.

Callandor
January 9th, 2009, 01:19 PM
OK, this is easy. I would save my loved one. Now what was that second part? something about love? Ah yesh, define it. I think love is just an instinct that helps keep your blood line going. I thought I was in love once. Then the girl went crazy not three days later, and I was depresed for about three weeks (give or take a few). I finaly realized I am most likely better off with out that kind of attatchment to someone other then my blood relatives.

Route 18
January 9th, 2009, 01:41 PM
If it were a family member on the other track, I would let the train go. If it were a best friend, I would let the train go. A loved one dying would have more impact on your life if you lost them because you have more experiences with them. But if two strangers died, I don't think you would care. You could yell at them to move off the track.

.
January 9th, 2009, 02:26 PM
How is this even worth giving any thought? I'd save my loved one in an instant. I don't know these strangers, and while their deaths might impact me, it won't impact me nearly as much as losing a family member.

Gulpin
January 9th, 2009, 02:53 PM
A loved one, though imagine being one of those strangers? If I knew the loved one really well, and I could tell what they would do if they were on the tracks and at the switch -thingy I would do what they would do.

For example: If my dad was on the tracks, I know what he would want me to do and that is to save the strangers.

So, really, for me it depends on the loved one on the track.

wakachamo
January 9th, 2009, 03:07 PM
Yeah, to hell with the strangers.

*Firestar*
January 9th, 2009, 03:13 PM
I would always save the loved one, no matter how many thimes this occured.

Define love? Ok. Love to me is someone who you want to be with for the rest of your life and that you feel emotionally conected to. It is someone who loves you as much as you do them and will help you and comfort you in times of sadness and discomfort. Someone who means a lot to you and you would give up your life in an instant to save. I know if put in that situation I would save the person I love. Even though we aren't Boyfriend/girlfriend.

A relative is a family member who you care for very much and are conected to by blood. Someone who looks out for you and loves you, and you do back. Even if you have fallen out with someone in your family you still love them and it tears you to lose them. Like a piece of your heart and person being ripped out. It can even be a pet. Like a cat or dog. I lost my pet cat. She was 17 and died because she had heart problems. I felt so guilty after that, I was broken. Tearing inside still even after a year. It *sniffles* still claws me to speak of it.

Guillermo
January 9th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Saving the loved one ftw.

Strangers are strangers.. I don't know them and they don't know me. Love is a big thing for me and I would never throw it away like that. If I can help them, I will. No matter what.

Define love?
Love is a special feeling we get when we meet someone, get to know them and enjoy spending time with them. If you love someone, you will more or less want to spend the rest of your life with them. Love isn't just any old thing that goes by. People say they love someone, but they really don't that much. It's more of a... best friend sort of love. If you want to love someone then you have to be dedicated, sure that they're the person you want to spend your life with and that sort of stuff.

Haza
January 9th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Im going to save one of my loved ones. Sorry its just how my mind works. I wouldnt feel as torn because i would be even harder to live with the fact that I could have save my friend/family members/lovers life. To me it is an equal weigh.

jirachi_wishmaker
January 9th, 2009, 03:58 PM
Definately save the loved ones, even if it was 100 strangers, i couldn't live with myself knowing that a loved one of mine had lost their life because of me.

Mariah Carey
January 9th, 2009, 04:04 PM
This is hard. It's two lives for the cost of one if you save the loved one, but you get another life back from the loved one. So if you saved the strangers, you'd really only gain one life anyway.
/thereotical fail

But personally, I would save the loved one. It's just human instinct, I guess.

Ben Kenobi
January 9th, 2009, 05:32 PM
I'd be much better off letting the strangers die. Switching it so my loved one dies would basically be murder. Granted, if it was the other way around, I might save my loved one anyway. Odds are I won't have time to rationalize in such a situation, anyway.

Zorua
January 9th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I'd save my loved one, and do the popular cartoon cliché of putting a banana peel in front of the train, therefore causing it to stop and allowing me to save the strangers.

You've got to love cartoons.

ErickaVolt
January 9th, 2009, 05:46 PM
Of course I would save my loved one. They are just strangers I don't know them and they don't know me either. duh. You need to be smart on making decision. But seriously, I'd rather die saving my loved one and the two strangers.

~Dynasty
January 9th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Has anyone said the two strangers yet?

kingofjokers
January 9th, 2009, 06:57 PM
loved one well for the other question yes and yes

Sublime
January 9th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Okay, your on a train station and one of the trains has gone crazy and wants to taste some blood (it's out of control), and your standing by the thing that has to be pulled to change tracks,


The train is currently driving like crazy at two total strangers, that are stuck and you can save them by pulling the thingy, but if you do then it will hit one of your loved ones, whom is stuck on the other other tracks,

What would you do,

would you save your loved one or would you save the total strangers?


Loved one. Not a very hard choice really :/
But I know either decision would haunt me later..

After you answer this, then I'm gonna have to ask you to define love, what is it to you, what does it mean for you, do you love somebody, have you loved somebody, do you feel there are many types of love?

Love to me, is when you have utmost trust, respect and belief in the person in question. They never let you down and bring you up when your feeling down. They're plesant to be around and bring a smile to your face when you meet eye-to-eye. You get that, seldom heard of, "butterflies in the stomach" feeling when you talk to them. You can't go a day without visualizing them or longing to be with them.

Those are all the qualities of love to me.

Have I ever loved somebody? Oh, the memories. I remember my freshman year, there was this girl who was absolutely amazing in every way possible. She had every one of the qualities I mentioned above. Not to mention, that girl turned my life around. She helped me see the brighter things in life. Thing is, she still doesn't know how much I care about her, and how much I love her...

Do I love somebody at the moment? See above :}.
One day..I'll work up the courage to ask her out. Telling her of all the wonderful things she's done for me. I just can't wait for that day..

Do I feel there are many different types of love?
To an extent, yes.
There is the classic "Love at first sight". Or as I like to call it, "Pure Lust". That's all it is, really. The best kind of love is when you let it grow. Get to know the person and let your relationship grow. That love will make you feel so much more joy than lust could anyday.

And all of that is my views on this topic :]

Aurafire
January 9th, 2009, 08:30 PM
Obviously, I'd pick the loved one. I wouldn't even hesitate. Sure, it would be difficult so sacrifice the lives of those two other people, but I'd do anything to save someone close to me. It's only logical to accept the sacrifice. A more serious situation, say saving the lives of 10, or maybe even 100 people, instead of a loved would more accurately exemplify what this type of question is asking =/

Aizuke
January 9th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Obviously a loved one.

A stranger has no place in my life and not to sound selfish, wouldn't be important to me as someone I love. If I ever lost someone that I loved, I probably wouldn't be able to live my normal life anymore. Though I would feel the satisfication of heroism if I saved a stranger, still, losing someone I love would leave an empty void in my life.

Love to me can mean different things. There's the love in friendship; where I deeply care for my friends and I would do anything to protect them.

As for love in a relationship, like with my boyfriend, it has the same aspects but on a whole new level. Though I do both love my friends and my boyfriend, my love for each are different from one another. It's rather hard to explain, it's not something you think about and it's just there and you know how to differentiant between the two. There's the love of just friendship, then there's the love with someone who you want to spend the rest of your life with, someone you have faith in, someone you can always trust and depend on. Though the aspect of friendship is still the same, still, you wouldn't love your friend the same way as you love your partner.

Kenshin5
January 9th, 2009, 08:54 PM
I would leave it too a coinflip.

>Feelings<
January 9th, 2009, 09:22 PM
Morality says it's not right to let two people die in the place of one, but taking human emotion into account, it's always right to save your loved ones first.

Idiot!
January 10th, 2009, 12:27 AM
Do nothing. Someone has to die, because he/she is on the track, which is against the rules, which is there to save lives, which means if someone disobeys it deliberately, he/she is risking life.

There are many types of love alright, but I can never understand why the romatic one is most often talked about and, IMO, overrated. You see more bf/gf threads than "have you got a pet to love yet" threads.

If I truly loved someone, I actually love them forever.

.inLOVE
January 10th, 2009, 12:46 AM
That's hard. 2 lives, or 1 you care about? The loved one. You know them, so to you, there are more valuable.

processr
January 10th, 2009, 01:03 AM
Morality says it's not right to let two people die in the place of one, but taking human emotion into account, it's always right to save your loved ones first.

You might want to choose your words a little carefully. That's not 'morality' you're describing there - that's utilitarianism. 'Morality' covers an awful lot more than just utilitarianism.

Mitchman
January 10th, 2009, 04:13 AM
Ah i could also use different situations for different answers
If the strangers are say 2 kids with a future and then you have your 60 year old father you would do what your father would do take the loss like a man and save the future of the kids.
If the stragners where say pedofiles then save the loved one.
If the stragners where say 2 very hot ladies and the loved one would be your wife then go for your wife.
If the strangers were 2 very good politicians and the loved one was the ever annoying uncle frank who makes christmas suck id go for the politicians cause they can change the world.

So yeah it depend on the people not if they matter to you or not.

kissing. raindrops
January 10th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Of COURSE my loved one. I'm not going to choose 2 random strangers over anyone I know and like/love.
Love for me.. I feel as I HAVE experienced it before.. But it hurts deeply. If love doesn't hurt when something bad happens, then you don't love the person. That's what I think. =/

Yamikarasu
January 10th, 2009, 01:21 PM
Have I recently been in an argument with said loved one? jk :P

The loved one seems like the way to go, but if it really was up to me I would hate to have to look into the two strangers' eyes and let them die. I would worry about taking to long to make my decision, although I know I would ultimately choose the loved one.

Azonic
January 10th, 2009, 01:23 PM
Stranger danger. Save the loved one definitely.