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beauty. proletariat
January 13th, 2009, 07:45 PM
Well I was just looking at the how to seduce a staff member trivia in OT and I was about to reply when... :O IT WAS LOCKED XD

So I'm thinking about an "Older Teens" area where we can have topics that are... Less appropriate for the whole age group of PC.

Now I'm thinking of there being conditional entry into this area, where you HAVE to request a S-Mod+ for entry, and they can refuse to grant you entry without reason. It IS a mature forum and should be exclusive to those who the staff feel deserve it.

Also, this forum can be a Post's dont count forum XD

People that show to be immature or lack the etiquette to remain in that forum can be kicked out from that forum.

I know this may mean more staff, and maybe not; but It'd help the people who want a more mature conversation out.

Also, we could probably have all New Threads all have to be approved by a Mod+.

I know this is practically a "Bring back the T-Dome" thread, but I do want somewhere where we can discuss stuff that's mature or suggestive but not explicit, inside of PC.

beauty. proletariat
January 13th, 2009, 07:53 PM
Yeah, that is why we have conditional entry and S. Mods can deny entry upon will. It might fail when they are having a bad day, but normally through grammar, spelling, posts, etc. you can tell how old someone really is. (and if someone who is nine can be mature enough to fool a whole board, then i think they deserve to be included in a mature forum anyway.)

pokewhore
January 13th, 2009, 07:58 PM
Plus, it's not like that 9 year old (example) hasn't already heard anything that was said in the "Seduce an Admin" thread.

To be honest, I don't think that

1) The younger age group on this site would care about the older teens section
2) Would understand what is being said or Has already heard of it
3) I really don't think there are many people here that are actually young.



Sorry about this rant-ish, illogical post.

Zebra Thunderhead
January 13th, 2009, 07:58 PM
There was some talk of this witch craft going on some time ago and the answer is basically no.

Tyrantrum
January 13th, 2009, 07:59 PM
I kind of like the idea.

But, even if a nine-year-old could gain entry into the 'mature discussion forum', actual teens might make threads that become too mature for them. :/

Lover's Kite
January 13th, 2009, 08:06 PM
Something like that existed in the past, it wasn't pretty. So now it's gone, and I doubt it will return anytime soon. :<

beauty. proletariat
January 13th, 2009, 08:09 PM
The matter of it getting too mature can be avoided?

Rules such as keeping sexual, violent, political opinions, and etc. topics at a mild level (mild means you can talk about it but not with complete description: eg.

[Mature, Post Your Problems]
We had sex and now were scared that she might be pregnant.
[too mature, in Post Your Problems]
We did this, we did that, i went fast i went slow (etc.) and she might be pregnant.)

Zet
January 13th, 2009, 08:26 PM
the problem is still the fact that any one can lie about their age just to gain entry and see all the "hot topic" info and if parents caught their kids looking at those sorts of posts we'd be the ones getting into trouble

Godot17
January 13th, 2009, 08:31 PM
I've heard about this "Thunderdome" before. It probably failed because of all the age lying and maturity overdrive. Although, I wasn't here during those ages, that's probably the reason why.

If there was a way to check every friggin member's print and tranfer them to PC with damn expensive federal permission and super equipment that probably already filters the little kids and take their print to see if they are 13+.

Then MAYBE the Thunderdome would be brought back. But not even Bill Gates is seeing that happening within 10 years. Are you?

beauty. proletariat
January 13th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Pokecommunity will not get into any trouble for their children lieing about their age which is clearly maybe not clearly, but it is touched upon refined on this page: http://www.pokecommunity.com/misc.php?do=page&template=tos

And as If the underage problem is that much of a problem then we can have it available for CS which would obviously have to have access to a credit card, or paypal (I doubt a young child would have the ability to send money through mail.); which both requires contest of someone that is an adult to use.

To K9; a S Mod has enough power to cross-check similar IP addresses between two accounts. If one account shows the user is under x years old, then he/she is not given permission to use the T-Dome.

Godot17
January 13th, 2009, 08:45 PM
What did IP addresses have anything to do with an insane fingerprint theory? @~@

Also, the text in the policy page is too small, at least for my monitor. Can you quote the specific location you are referring to?

parallelzero
January 13th, 2009, 08:46 PM
This gets brought up at least once every 6 months (I don't know why? XD), and every time it usually ends up at the same conclusion. Since we don't have a Thunderdome or something similar right now, the answer is kind of obvious. XD

beauty. proletariat
January 13th, 2009, 08:49 PM
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@.fate XD lol I know but we shall still try :D

Godot17
January 13th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Oh, ok XD.

You do realize an admin will probably change that now.

beauty. proletariat
January 13th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Why would an administrator change something that protects this website?

anyway, we're getting off topic.

the problem I see here is just how to regulate the content and who gets entry.

Sylphiel
January 13th, 2009, 09:04 PM
An admin doesn't need to change any of that, because there's still this fact: if the staff says there'll be no mature subforum (especially since it failed last time), then there'll be no mature subforum. :( Quoting various parts of the terms of service won't change that at all.

Right now, to be honest, there's really nothing showing us that such a forum wouldn't fail again, considering how some members still tend to act in "mature" topics (and checking ages isn't entirely feasible. Way too easy to lie, and even before then you'd have the matter of what age to set the bar at).

beauty. proletariat
January 13th, 2009, 09:08 PM
Well then we could have it on an "invitation" basis where you get invited by smod+ when they believe you are mature (which 'now'; includes all age groups)

Zet
January 13th, 2009, 09:11 PM
Urghh! you really need to stop wanting the tdome back, it's not coming back, just give up

Angela
January 14th, 2009, 06:34 AM
This gets brought up at least once every 6 months (I don't know why? XD), and every time it usually ends up at the same conclusion. Since we don't have a Thunderdome or something similar right now, the answer is kind of obvious. XD

Look again, it's less then 6 months, probably about 2-3 months, with the debating section,


And I feel I'm against it, the only people that would post in there would be the ones that barely where let in, and all they would rant about would be S.E.X (something they would have no idea about), just to prove how "Mature" they would be, they'd probably try to fit the word S.E.X into every other word in there post, so I'm against it, I mean I don't like the idea of locking the younger members out of a whole section without giving them an opportunity to prove that they can handle the responsibility you are trusted with when your let into a section like that.

And if you feel the need to discuss S.E.X I'm sure there are plenty of other non children forums that you can go to.

Sublime
January 14th, 2009, 06:37 AM
Look again, it's less then 6 months, probably about 2-3 months, with the debating section,


And I feel I'm against it, the only people that would post in there would be the ones that barely where let in, and all they would rant about would be S.E.X (something they would have no idea about), just to prove how "Mature" they would be, they'd probably try to fit the word S.E.X into every other word in there post, so I'm against it, I mean I don't like the idea of locking the younger members out of a whole section without them be given an opportunity to prove that they can handle the responsibility you are trusted with when your let into a section like that.

And if you feel the need to discuss S.E.X I'm sure there are plenty of other non children forums that you can go to.

Quoted for truth.

I pretty much realized how flawed an age resticted section would be when the idea for a debate forum came along.

Sorry, it isn't going to work. :/
To many liars, flamers, etc.

quilzel
January 14th, 2009, 07:22 AM
Do not provide User Content that:


discriminates on the grounds of race, religion, national origin, gender, age, marital status, sexual orientation or disability.

You can't discriminates against younger people, so their for the "T-Dome" is against the TOS.

Brushfire
January 14th, 2009, 08:46 AM
Provide valid reasoning to why you need it, because in my opinion you don't. This is a Pokemon forum to discuss Pokemon, not mature content. If you want to discuss that kind of stuff then visit another board, simple as.

Gold warehouse
January 14th, 2009, 09:16 AM
I'm sure there are plenty of sites for you if you want that sort of thing.

Melody
January 15th, 2009, 04:45 AM
Exactly. about 4 years ago, we tried this idea, It was dubbed the 'T-Dome, AKA The ThunderDome' and it failed miserably. So many people lied to get access to it and it soon became a horrid spam hole that no one wanted to touch. It became the trolls' playground. It was horrible, you couldn't even hold an intelligent discussion about anything there without being flamed on the spot.
I for one honestly dont blame the staff for never wanting to have such a forum section. It is not something that any of us PC Veterans look back on and have fond memories about.

Arcanine
January 15th, 2009, 09:44 AM
A show of hands... how many of you were here back when the T-Dome was around? See, 99% of these older members who was around back then know what they're talking about when they say "No...". All I got to say is... if you want the T-Dome (a mature forum) back then you don't know what you're getting into. As long as I'm on the Staff I will never agree to another one of them "mature" forums. Because we had it right the first time. We had rules all over that thing, we had Staff in there all the time, we had the age limit set to 13, we listed what you could and couldn't talk about (this was next to the rules saying you can't bash, can't flame, etc). And guess what... the forum is no longer with us.
Some of you might take this as "HAHAHA Lets just talk about this XD. Come on... it wouldn't hurt to bring it back. XD", but it's no laughing matter. That place was a trash dump. It's not so much kids under 13 getting in there and messing things up, it was also people who were 15... 16... and so on. Just because your age is high doesn't mean you're mature. I know people who are older then me yet they're about as mature as a 10 year old. And yet I know some who are a few years younger then me and yet they're far mature. So just saying "Well... you're 13 so you're ok to come in. ^_^" doesn't make it right, and doesn't mean that the forum will be ok.

If you can't talk about it in Other Chat, or vote about it in OVP then it doesn't need to be on PC. It's just that simple. If you want to talk about more "mature" topics then you have a right to join another forum and post there about it. But as long as I'm on the Staff I will never agree to another "trash forum" being on PC (and I know there's a lot of Staff that'll agree with me). Doesn't matter how many times all of you whine and complain saying "I want a mature forum...", if the Staff doesn't sign off on it then you don't get it.


Zazie is right... I look back on that thing and that's some bad memories. Even the "founder" of the T-Dome said (after it was all over and closed down) it was a mistake for him to bring it up.

Kazukii
January 15th, 2009, 09:54 AM
I personally would quite like this sort of a section but it might become innapropriate in the way that explicit stuff gets posted and then younger kids who don't know what it means, type it into google and bam, they've got something that'll scar them for life.

Brushfire
January 15th, 2009, 11:46 AM
Exactly. about 4 years ago, we tried this idea, It was dubbed the 'T-Dome, AKA The ThunderDome' and it failed miserably. So many people lied to get access to it and it soon became a horrid spam hole that no one wanted to touch. It became the trolls' playground. It was horrible, you couldn't even hold an intelligent discussion about anything there without being flamed on the spot.
I for one honestly dont blame the staff for never wanting to have such a forum section. It is not something that any of us PC Veterans look back on and have fond memories about.

Sounds like /b/, you'll never know what'll happen to you.

Anyway, considering every member of the Staff that's posted here so far has disagreed, shouldn't this be locked?

Cascade'A Stupidity
January 15th, 2009, 12:46 PM
Yeah, cause 6 year olds can lie, and then learn about 'love' and 'safe 'love'' and stuff they shouldn't know about. Then ask their parents what it means, then start a civil war AND KILL US ALL! D=

Arcanine
January 15th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Yeah, cause 6 year olds can lie, and then learn about 'love' and 'safe 'love'' and stuff they shouldn't know about. Then ask their parents what it means, then start a civil war AND KILL US ALL! D=
How about I just link you to the T-Dome. Let you see it for about 10 mins and see the crap that went on in there. And see how much "love" and "safe love" talks and such went on in there. If Questions & Feedback was more closed off, or if this was on MSN I'd spell out the T-Dome in black and white. Show everyone the kind of crap in there. Then see everyone still try to sit around and joke about it. <_<
Everyone thinks it's funny... lets all sit around and joke about 6 and 10 year olds getting in there and talking in mature topics and then running off to their mommies and asking them about it. Heh, yea really funny...

And since whoever started this thread got their answer... and for all of you who wants a "mature" forum go on and start putting your reasons down on some paper. I'm sure someone will make another thread like this in a month or two...

*Closed*