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NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 26th, 2009, 09:55 AM
MATURE DISCUSSION ONLY. NO INSULTS/FLAMING/BASHING.

I have been thinking that there may be some people on PC that have disorders such as Autism, Aspergers syndrome, ADHD, or whatever. (i should think any kind of disability fits in the criteria of this thread ^__^) So i made this for people to talk about it, and talk to other people who seem to be, shall we say, "in the same boat "

I might aswell start. I have very mild autism. This was more of a problem for me when i was younger, as i had to go to speech therapy and stuff. but now It's almost like it was never there! ^^

Now we can carry on and maturely discuss. If this thread gets out of hand (which i really don't want it to) i'll tell Chibi/Driflloon/ whoever can to close it.

EDIT: if you have a family member/friend who has a certain disorder/whatever, feel free to mention. This doesn't just have to be about you ^^

Amaruuk
January 26th, 2009, 11:19 AM
I've got Asperger's Syndrome, and also a form of manic-depression.

Shoot, I could go on for days talking about it.

One of the most annoying things I have to deal with is that 90% of people I meet IRL have never even heard of it, let alone what it's about. So you can imagine how often I have to explain it, which is anything but fun because most people don't take it seriously or act skeptical. This is why I still haven't worked up the nerve to actively find and meet new people.

I think the absolute worst part of Asperger's is not the lack of others' awareness, but the severely hindered variety of foods I can eat without having a gag reflex. Not only is it the part people are least likely to believe/take seriously, it's detrimental to both my health and my ability to attend social events or eat with people at all unless I trust that they completely understand. In the star sign thread I said that I hate food, eat it mostly just to live, and would never ever diet, contrary to the Libra description. This is why. My diet is one I cannot afford to limit further. I eat mainly meats, breads/pasta, and dairy, and even within those there are definite limits. The textures in plant matter like fruits and vegetables are almost always the kind to set off the gag reflex. Only bananas, apples, watermelon, carrots, and sweet corn are plants I can eat, and even so, they must be perfect or I can't. I can't eat things with a very soft and creamy texture like soft ice cream, yogurt, etc., or things that consist of "chunks" suspended in a liquid, like stew, soup, etc. Flavors have just as much an impact as textures, so I don't drink fruit juice or eat things with too strong a flavor. I don't eat things with strong odors, either, unless of course it's a good odor.

My other senses are ultra-sensitive, too. I can smell something foul in a room and no one else can smell it. I am more easily put off by smells than others are. Same with noise. I don't think there is another 20-year-old alive who has as low a tolerance for noise as I have. A college student who hates noise sounds pretty far fetched. People get mad at me often because I can't just ignore unpleasant noise. My sense of touch is more acute as well, and thus my skin is a lot more irritable and irritations are much harder to ignore.

One more annoying thing is that most 'neurotypical' folks don't know what social cues are when I explain that I'm still learning to read them, because they don't have to. The ability to pick them up is natural to them, so it's taken for granted.

The last thing is my lack of decent gross motor coordination. This is what absolutely killed me in P.E. growing up, and is one of the major causes of my hatred of competitive sports. I went to a college-prep private school most of my life, and one of the things it emphasized was athletics. Since Kindegarten I had been pitted against all the other kids, every one of which was athletic. I probably would have been, too, if I could actually throw, kick, run, or do any of the other things involved at least on par with average people.


Ok, onto positive stuff. Nothing is without balance, at least in my opinion.

I don't know what my actual IQ is, but I'm fairly certain it's at least above average. I have the ability to almost naturally understand completely new information on a more complex level rather by starting out with it being put into layman's terms. For this reason, I cannot pass information on to others in layman's terms, so as much as I wish I could, I'd be no good for teaching or tutoring. I also almost never need to take notes during a lecture, because most information is automatically committed to memory, and have almost never studied for tests in my life. The downside to this "learning through osmosis," as I call it, is that quite a lot of people don't believe me at first, and because memory persists, I have to deal with hearing things repeated over and over between quarters, and in the past have had to go through entire classes worth of things I'd learned before, like for instance my high school taught quite a lot of things I still remembered from middle school. I guess regular folks really need repetition to learn.

I have the ability to pick up skills all over the map with about the same amount of ease/effort, be they left-brained things like math, science, computers, or other logic-based things, or right-brained things like arts, artisan craft, language, etc.

As many downsides as there are to Asperger's, I wouldn't trade my intelligence for anything. It's who I am.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 26th, 2009, 11:36 AM
Hear hear! ^__^ I would never trade Autism for anything, myself. No matter what downside there has been for me, it's made things interesting for me, too. Although i have a lot less problems than i used to, just little things. I will NEVER drink from another persons cup/bottle after they have, even if they have wiped the lid. :P My parenats encouraged me to open up to people, though.

Unlike you, who says they pick up on new skills with ease, I am very good at things i am interested in. I have a very adept memory for things i focus on. but not other things :) One of my best freinds has more serious Aspergers syndrome, and i know he has books on social skills, etc.i used to have these when i was younger. did you, by any chance? ^_^ just wondering

matt561
January 26th, 2009, 01:28 PM
Wow i am surprised i thought i was a freak having quite bad aspergers when i was a kid

But like most of you guys find out we grow into it more than anything dont we

star88
January 26th, 2009, 01:31 PM
my brother has autism and adhd, he is quiet high on the spectrum and so is often in a rage for no reason and will often hit people. i know it can be quiet hard to cope with weather you have it your self or your siblings have it. i also want to point out that everyone is on the autistic spectrum some where even those seemingly normal people.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 26th, 2009, 01:54 PM
my brother has autism and adhd, he is quiet high on the spectrum and so is often in a rage for no reason and will often hit people. i know it can be quiet hard to cope with weather you have it your self or your siblings have it. i also want to point out that everyone is on the autistic spectrum some where even those seemingly normal people.

Thats exactly what i was told ^__^ that everyone is on the autistic spectrum SOMEWHERE. It made me feel a lot better :)

Amaruuk
January 26th, 2009, 01:58 PM
Hear hear! ^__^ I would never trade Autism for anything, myself. No matter what downside there has been for me, it's made things interesting for me, too. Although i have a lot less problems than i used to, just little things. I will NEVER drink from another persons cup/bottle after they have, even if they have wiped the lid. :P My parenats encouraged me to open up to people, though.

Unlike you, who says they pick up on new skills with ease, I am very good at things i am interested in. I have a very adept memory for things i focus on. but not other things :) One of my best freinds has more serious Aspergers syndrome, and i know he has books on social skills, etc.i used to have these when i was younger. did you, by any chance? ^_^ just wondering

I'm very fickle, so you could say I'm good at the things I'm interested in, because most everything is in some way interesting to me. I love learning. One of my friends often calls me "handy" because of my versatility.

I've had a few books on Asperger's or social skills. I love books, but not in the same way people generally do. People who are considered bookworms or avid readers generally read novels and fiction. I, on the other hand, am a bookworm of non-fiction and reference books like encyclopedias instead. I've always known things far beyond my years ever since I learned to read, because my comprehension is much higher than average, so when all the other kids were into dinosaurs or outer space for the usual reasons, I buried myself in the nitty-gritty science, because I understood it and it fascinated me. I even knew how babies developed in the womb step-by-step with all the jargon intact at age 7... I just wasn't told how the baby got there in the first place XD

Looking back, I sometimes wonder why I ended up as an artist/designer, though I've also loved drawing and painting since those days, too.

♣Gawain♣
January 26th, 2009, 02:06 PM
Well, my high school friend has autism. He is very silent and also quite imaginative. Although sometimes he gets weird and funny sometimes. Never thought that the disease got hold of his imaginative skills.

Callandor
January 26th, 2009, 02:10 PM
I have mild A.D.D. Most of my friends have some amount of A.D.D. too. One of my friends has A.D.H.D. He's known as the angery midgit. Anyways I often find my self staring out in to space for no reason. And some times when I come back into reality, I find I've been staring at someone. Not plesent. Anyways the only things I find that keep my attention for a while is a good book. Although some times I get distracted form that too.

emoBill™
January 26th, 2009, 02:54 PM
Kinarii, I love you. You're almost exactly like me. Time for the commentary, and then we can be best friends forever.

One of the most annoying things I have to deal with is that 90% of people I meet IRL have never even heard of it, let alone what it's about. So you can imagine how often I have to explain it, which is anything but fun because most people don't take it seriously or act skeptical. This is why I still haven't worked up the nerve to actively find and meet new people.

Exactly. If the event occurs where I have to tell someone that I'm autistic, I usually just say 'autistic'. Only two people I've ever told about Asperger's have known what it was. Usually, I just tell them to go home and Google it. Otherwise, I don't even bother.

I think the absolute worst part of Asperger's is not the lack of others' awareness, but the severely hindered variety of foods I can eat without having a gag reflex.

This happens to me also, but only with a couple of foods. I can't have anything with a creamy texture and things suspended in the texture, unless it's something I've tasted without the stuff, like brownie mix with sugar lumps. I've tasted chocolate, and I've tasted sugar. Therefore, I can eat both together without choking because I've tasted each seperately and my brain has determined that I enjoy them both. But I can't eat chowder. I just can't. My mom fed me some once and I just sat there and tried to swallow it. It wasn't so much the taste - that would qualify it as a normal dislike of the food - as much as I just couldn't take the consistency.

My mom made me and my siblings carrot juice once on one of her 'healthy kicks'. She stuck carrots in a Magic Blender thingy and sliced them into a sort of milkshake. Only thing was...it wasn't liquid. It was quite literally, carrot mush. With some parts of carrot still in it. It tasted awful, but my other siblings drank it anyway. My mom was yelling at me to drink it, and I finally did, but I had to stop every couple seconds to get it down. It seriously felt like I was going to throw up.

Anywho, that's a bit graphic. I'll move on. However, I don't think my mom knows about the gag reflex thing. Even if I told her, she'd say it's just an excuse. (That's the kind of person my mom is. She's into mainstreaming me and getting me to act 'like everybody else', which I suppose has happened since no one really knows about my condition. But she favors my sister, the cheerleader, over me because she's perfectly fine and she's a cheerleader. Being an Aspie, I'm the writer/singer/artist of the family, and my mom is the kind of person who wishes she were a cheerleader and popular and just shuns the 'different' kids, like me. Even if I am her own daughter.)

My other senses are ultra-sensitive, too.

I don't have a good enough sense of smell, actually. I have these annoying allergies or something that are always, always present. My constant voice is a nasal-sounding one. I'm thinking of getting surgery. (Though, truthfully, the nasal sound isn't that bad. You don't much notice it.)

However, I see things that no one else does. It's actually kind of frightening. I suppose you could chalk it up to just awful vision or strain on the eyes, but I'll see something in my peripheral vision and there won't be anything there. Or I'll see these silver streaks across the walls, like glitter or something. That might be because of eye strain. I don't know. I see floaters, or whatever it's called when you see cells perfectly fine, so it might be related it to that.

The really weird thing is that I'll dream something, and then it will happen. I tend to forget a lot of my dreams, so I won't know that it was in my dream until it happens. Although sometimes I can remember some of my dreams and I'll think something is going to happen and then it does. Weird, right? Like extreme deja vu.

I think my thought sense is pretty developed too. For instance, I can comprehend what 'forever' is, if only for a couple seconds. It might be different for others of the same thought process, but I imagine a really long winding thing that looks like a movie strip. Like those old things they put in the movie camera, the film rolls. It's weird. But anywho, the background is usually gold and the strip goes on 'forever', each seperate scene representing a seperate day. That way, for maybe four seconds, I can comprehend the idea of 'forever'. I am fascinated with black holes and things that defy matter and gravity, and I actually sat down and listened to a Stephen Hawking CD while my uncle was doing something on the computer and understood some of what he was talking about. It's really strange. Has anyone else ever thought like this? (That does require an answer, people. I would enjoy seeing that I'm not the only crazy one xP)

One more annoying thing is that most 'neurotypical' folks don't know what social cues are when I explain that I'm still learning to read them, because they don't have to. The ability to pick them up is natural to them, so it's taken for granted.

That's one of my biggest problems. People think I'm a little strange because I try to act like a normal person, but it doesn't work. When writing I usually rest my head on my hand in an unusual fashion, or I won't walk like a normal teenage girl does. I mostly walk with my feet pointing somewhat diagonal instead of putting one foot in front of the other. (And soon you'll be walking out the-

*is shot*)

My ex told me that was one of the reasons he liked me, that I didn't walk like all the stuck-up divas or whatever. I thought it was a bit strange at the time but I didn't say anything xP

The last thing is my lack of decent gross motor coordination. This is what absolutely killed me in P.E. growing up, and is one of the major causes of my hatred of competitive sports. I went to a college-prep private school most of my life, and one of the things it emphasized was athletics. Since Kindegarten I had been pitted against all the other kids, every one of which was athletic. I probably would have been, too, if I could actually throw, kick, run, or do any of the other things involved at least on par with average people.

I went to a college-prep private school too, but then I moved to homeschool and finally a public school. Now I'm in a private school again, but it's honors. Anywho, in the CP private school we always used to play four-square and race and whatever it is little kids do at recess. I'd get mad and hit all the other kids or throw the ball at someone. I had the strength, I just didn't know how to apply it. I don't run the right way, but one thing I'd like to emphasize is that when people see that sentence, they might automatically think 'oh, they're just mentally retarded, they run all weird'. But I don't. I just don't have the right arm movements, etc. that everyone else does. I can run, just not fast. I finally found a sport I love in volleyball, mostly because all it requires me to do is stand there, maybe run a few feet, and pound things, which is what I did for most of my childhood anyway. (Too bad I didn't discover volleyball earlier. That would have been my anger management right there.)

I don't know what my actual IQ is, but I'm fairly certain it's at least above average.

Yeah, Aspie's are supposed to have above-average. Mine is 137, but I don't use most of it. I just don't feel like it most of the time. I have reason to be angry at the situation I'm in, and it doesn't really make sense to me why I have to go from a CP public school to an honors private school and be expected to get straight A's, just because I have a genius-level IQ.

I have the ability to almost naturally understand completely new information on a more complex level rather by starting out with it being put into layman's terms. I also almost never need to take notes during a lecture, because most information is automatically committed to memory, and have almost never studied for tests in my life.

One of my friends asks me every week, "Have you studied for the Spanish test?" My answer is always no, the reason mainly being that I look at the words, see things in them that will help me understand what the English word is that it stands for. Foreign languages come extremely easy to me. (I'm failing English, though, which is fairly oxymoronic.) She's amazed that I have an A- in the class without needing to study. I just shrug, because once I hear it, it's there. No notes for me...I can remember nearly everything I've learned from kindergarten through 11th grade (which is what I'm in now). It frustrates me when they think they need to teach us the same information again and again. It's probably normal for regular people. Just annoying for me.

Overall, though, I do enjoy being 'different', which I suppose is another trait of the autism, and wouldn't want to become 'like everyone else'. I started out somewhat popular in the beginning of the year and dropped it: I've seen what those people are like. I don't want to be them. I don't care if the whole school calls me weird. I have freshmen friends that act just as crazy as me (although none of them have autism) and if people think I'm an unusual person, I just tell myself I can't change myself. It doesn't work that way. I went to therapy to try and read social cues, and even though that sped it up a bit, it didn't do that much. One of my friends from therapy moved and then moved back eight years later, and we met each other at school, which was like this huge coincidence. Considering my school was 2400+ students, and he was 1. He's a druggie/whore/gay, so I guess you can be whoever you want to be, but I still love him. He's my BFF and that won't ever change. But I guess some people can pick it up a lot better. He's the most popular guy in school (so it's kinda cool to be his BFF - unfortunately, we moved so bye bye popularity by association). However he's popular because he's weird and outgoing. He'll try anything. I'm well-liked by the freshman, sophomores, and seniors. (The whole junior class are catty, obnoxious, gossiping, rich, spoiled brats.) I've got friends. So I'm okay. (Stealing a line from Fullmoon Wo Sagashiite.) Even if I do have a strange obsession with anime/manga yet still be the most developed girl in my class. (Gets kind of annoying when you know people want what you have but you don't really understand why.)

I won't get too personal, though. What I'm trying to say is that it's really confusing for us a lot of the time, but the main thing is that I'm happy with who I am. I don't want to be the same as anyone else. (Though I still do want to look pretty and have a boyfriend and walk on the beach together and normal stuff like that.) I don't care that I love standing in the rain, even if I get cold. I went out the other day when there was one of those really weird-looking storms and this huge cloud was over one part of the sky and the other part was sunny. And I danced. I danced in the rain and just kind of let it wash over me, and then I just stood there, arms out and eyes closed and letting it pour over me.

I'm weird, I know ^^;

But it felt good. It gave me a feeling I've gotten a few times before, where I feel like I'm part of everything. Kinda like zen or nirvana. It was amazing. I go out in thunderstorms whenever I can. Even though I have all this weird behavior, I really don't care. I think it's cool. And sometimes people respect me for being my own person and not caring what people think. So it's all okay.

That's the end of my long rant. These are feelings I've kept inside for a long time and now they're out.

*holds up target* Yay! Here comes the thrown fruit!

Amaruuk
January 26th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Kinarii, I love you. You're almost exactly like me. Time for the commentary, and then we can be best friends forever.
Aww... :3 Here, you can join me on my throne as queen of text-walls! Yay for having a lot to say!

Usually, I just tell them to go home and Google it.
Yeah. I've only explained it to about a thousand people already. Time to let them do the work. >:3

This happens to me also, but only with a couple of foods. I can't have anything with a creamy texture and things suspended in the texture, unless it's something I've tasted without the stuff, like brownie mix with sugar lumps. I've tasted chocolate, and I've tasted sugar. Therefore, I can eat both together without choking because I've tasted each seperately and my brain has determined that I enjoy them both. But I can't eat chowder. I just can't. My mom fed me some once and I just sat there and tried to swallow it. It wasn't so much the taste - that would qualify it as a normal dislike of the food - as much as I just couldn't take the consistency.

My mom made me and my siblings carrot juice once on one of her 'healthy kicks'. She stuck carrots in a Magic Blender thingy and sliced them into a sort of milkshake. Only thing was...it wasn't liquid. It was quite literally, carrot mush. With some parts of carrot still in it. It tasted awful, but my other siblings drank it anyway. My mom was yelling at me to drink it, and I finally did, but I had to stop every couple seconds to get it down. It seriously felt like I was going to throw up.

Anywho, that's a bit graphic. I'll move on. However, I don't think my mom knows about the gag reflex thing. Even if I told her, she'd say it's just an excuse. (That's the kind of person my mom is. She's into mainstreaming me and getting me to act 'like everybody else', which I suppose has happened since no one really knows about my condition. But she favors my sister, the cheerleader, over me because she's perfectly fine and she's a cheerleader. Being an Aspie, I'm the writer/singer/artist of the family, and my mom is the kind of person who wishes she were a cheerleader and popular and just shuns the 'different' kids, like me. Even if I am her own daughter.)
My entire childhood family life is plagued by instances of being forced to eat things against my will. Dinners and gatherings with my dad's relatives were always nightmares, as well as anytime mom wanted to cook something new. Even when she cooked things that weren't new, but already established as things I couldn't eat, my parents still made me stay at the table till I finished. I can think of ten million other bad food experiences, but the point of it is this: Food = Evil. Because of my past experience with people and food, I'm still extremely untrusting about eating with others unless they already know my situation and can be trusted not to even so much as suggest that I try something. If I want to try a new food, it will be on my own time when I'm ready to.

I see floaters, or whatever it's called when you see cells perfectly fine, so it might be related it to that.
I see them, too, but I think those are actually normal things to see XD

I went to a college-prep private school too, but then I moved to homeschool and finally a public school. Now I'm in a private school again, but it's honors. Anywho, in the CP private school we always used to play four-square and race and whatever it is little kids do at recess. I'd get mad and hit all the other kids or throw the ball at someone. I had the strength, I just didn't know how to apply it. I don't run the right way, but one thing I'd like to emphasize is that when people see that sentence, they might automatically think 'oh, they're just mentally retarded, they run all weird'. But I don't. I just don't have the right arm movements, etc. that everyone else does. I can run, just not fast. I finally found a sport I love in volleyball, mostly because all it requires me to do is stand there, maybe run a few feet, and pound things, which is what I did for most of my childhood anyway. (Too bad I didn't discover volleyball earlier. That would have been my anger management right there.)
Four-square = Evil

Actually recess as a whole was pretty evil. I liked math class loads better. At least my existence was acknowledged (plus I liked math anyway). I've always been a fairly small person, and I'm even weaker than I look, so I don't have anything going for me on the physical fitness front, except not being overweight. My stamina is about as bad as humanly possible, so starting anything physical at this point is basically pointless. Also, you hit the nail right on the head about running "the wrong way."

One of my friends asks me every week, "Have you studied for the Spanish test?" My answer is always no, the reason mainly being that I look at the words, see things in them that will help me understand what the English word is that it stands for. Foreign languages come extremely easy to me. (I'm failing English, though, which is fairly oxymoronic.) She's amazed that I have an A- in the class without needing to study. I just shrug, because once I hear it, it's there. No notes for me...I can remember nearly everything I've learned from kindergarten through 11th grade (which is what I'm in now). It frustrates me when they think they need to teach us the same information again and again. It's probably normal for regular people. Just annoying for me.
Back when I was actually in a school that taught foreign language, I pwned at it. I was easily able to grasp the structure and grammar of Spanish lightning-quick. If I had continued with it at that school instead of switching to the lame watered-down private school for "special" people in high school that had no foreign language, I would have mastered it pretty fast. I have the same talent in English, being able to easily understand grammar and be able to spell any word intuitively after seeing it only once, even the strange ones. The only reason I didn't get into many spelling bees is because spelling verbally is totally different and not nearly as easy for me as written spelling.


Well, that should do it for this post XD

BEST. THREAD. EVAR! :3

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 12:01 AM
It IS very awkward trying to explain it, isn't it? To other people that don't know what it is. They SHOULD google it XD

And despite being the auteur of this thread, i have NO text walls! :3

Amaruuk
January 27th, 2009, 08:58 AM
Lol, I just personally have a hard time saying/replying to anything without a text-wall somehow manifesting itself in my post/comment/dA journal.

I speak in text-walls, too, unfortunately for those who don't like my rambling, though I'm actually very shy and often silent until someone else makes the first move. Once the ball's rolling, however, it's hard to stop XD

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 09:05 AM
It IS very awkward trying to explain it, isn't it? To other people that don't know what it is. They SHOULD google it XD

And despite being the auteur of this thread, i have NO text walls! :3

That is so true! I have so much trouble with explaining to people why i have autism. It's so easy for them to say, "oh well you probably just have behavioral issues" but it's not true. I mean they could even say that just because I didnt speak full sentences by the time I was around maybe 4-6, is just some awkward developmental delay I had. Autism and ASDs are always complicated because sometimes people have a bunch of traits that could be misinterpreted as something else, unless someone actually has a very full-blown case of Autism, it's unlikely people can really understand it.

But yeah, I am mildly to moderately autistic. It usually varies depending on my mood. I have alot of disabilities but I think its actually just autism all together...D:

Fox♠
January 27th, 2009, 09:05 AM
My best friend's brother has AS, and my friend thinks I may do based on similar symptoms, however I am dyspraxic which i feel is more likely to be the reason why i show certain symptoms.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 09:06 AM
Lol my own social skills have improved a lot over age. ^_^ I too tend to wait for someone else to start a conversation however XD

That is so true! I have so much trouble with explaining to people why i have autism. It's so easy for them to say, "oh well you probably just have behavioral issues" but it's not true. I mean they could even say that just because I didnt speak full sentences by the time I was around maybe 4-6, is just some awkward developmental delay I had. Autism and ASDs are always complicated because sometimes people have a bunch of traits that could be misinterpreted as something else, unless some actually has a very full-blown case of Autism, it's unlucky people can really understand it.Thats right, Misayu ^_^ It is quite unfortunate that it is a very hard disorder to understand, as there is no clear line indicating when someone has it and doesn't. That fact caused me to have a very rocky school career, and clinical depression. I'm a lot better now, thankfully ^^

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 09:09 AM
Lol my own social skills have imporved a lot over age. ^_^ I too tend to wait for someone else to start a conversation however XD

Mine haven't. I always fear social interaction and sometimes with phone conversation I panic and start crying. D: In public, it's like I want to have some sign or shirt saying I'm autistic. I usually try to avoid social interaction but...it's never easy. DX

Yeah, same with me. I've had alot of trouble with getting teased and no one ever gave me special treatment. I misbehaved and people that I was a bad kid, but really it was just the autism and the behavorial issues I suffered, you know like not knowing what I was doing was wrong. D:

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 09:15 AM
Mine haven't. I always fear social interaction and sometimes with phone conversation I panic and start crying. D: In public, it's like I want to have some sign or shirt saying I'm autistic. I usually try to avoid social interaction but...it's never easy. DX

Yeah, same with me. I've had alot of trouble with getting teased and no one ever gave me special treatment. I misbehaved and people that I was a bad kid, but really it was just the autism and the behavorial issues I suffered, you know like not knowing what I was doing was wrong. D:

It can always get tough :( people thought i was insubordinate, or a misbehaved kid 'cause i did things that were out of line etc. i used to argue with everyone, but thankfully i have gotten myself back on track and know that it isn't all bad. sometimes i don't even think i have autism. That MIGHT just be me though XD

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 09:23 AM
It can always get tough :( people thought i was insubordinate, or a misbehaved kid 'cause i did things that were out of line etc. i used to argue with everyone, but thankfully i have gotten myself back on track and know that it isn't all bad. sometimes i don't even think i have autism. That MIGHT just be me though XD

Well, I've always wanted people to understand that I have a disability. I mean no, I don't want people treating me like I need some sort of special treatment or anything but to just simply understand that if I make a mistake or do something without thinking, not to lash out at me, you know?

No, it's not you. Sometimes I wonder if I even have it because I hardly ever have those violent meltdowns and even do the worst autistic behaviors. I only get mild behaviors and I never have any strict rituals...see, my autism seems much more complicated. It;s not like some serious thing for me since most of the time it seems pretty mild. It usually only gets worse when I deal with sound or social interaction. It's like, really loud sounds make me cover my ears but to be honest, that doesnt happen often and then with touch, I usually get overwhelmed by affection.

I know when i was little, and I was sick, my parents couldn't even touch me. So maybe it's because it's getting better, I don't know. I know that I often get yelled at for obsessing over something but to be honest, I was never hard on something changing. In fact, change is usually good for me because it makes me feel really excited.

In some ways, i do have autistic traits because I have little to no eye contact and often let my eyes wander when I'm talking to someone. I also do a lot of fidgeting and odd movements like flicking my wrists or shaking my feet.

I also make a lot of noises and often make weird noises or hum. I also repeat phrases from my favorite shows and remember a lot of my favorite parts and I even say things with the TV while watching something.

So, in same way I am autistic but most autistic people act differently depending on how severe they are. Though, I am very aggressive and I yell and throw things a lot. I do get pretty emotional too and it's always hard for people to understand that.

Ruphire
January 27th, 2009, 09:34 AM
One of my best friends has aspergers. He goes to speach therepay and he's starting to sound better.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 09:35 AM
Well, I've always wanted people to understand that I have a disability. I mean no, I don't want people treating me like I need some sort of special treatment or anything but to just simply understand that if I make a mistake or do something without thinking, not to lash out at me, you know?

No, it's not you. Sometimes I wonder if I even have it because I hardly ever have those violent meltdowns and even do the worst autistic behaviors. I only get mild behaviors and I never have any strict rituals...see, my autism seems much more complicated. It;s not like some serious thing for me since most of the time it seems pretty mild. It usually only gets worse when I deal with sound or social interaction. It's like, really loud sounds make me cover my ears but to be honest, that doesnt happen often and then with touch, I usually get overwhelmed by affection.

I know when i was little, and I was sick, my parents couldn't even touch me. So maybe it's because it's getting better, I don't know. I know that I often get yelled at for obsessing over something but to be honest, I was never hard on something changing. In fact, change is usually good for me because it makes me feel really excited.

I also have a thread question: When did you find out you had said disorder? what sort of reaction did it provide? ^^

In some ways, i do have autistic traits because I have little to no eye contact and often let my eyes wander when I'm talking to someone. I also do a lot of fidgeting and odd movements like flicking my wrists or shaking my feet.

I also make a lot of noises and often make weird noises or hum. I also repeat phrases from my favorite shows and remember a lot of my favorite parts and I even say things with the TV while watching something.

So, in same way I am autistic but most autistic people act differently depending on how severe they are. Though, I am very aggressive and I yell and throw things a lot. I do get pretty emotional too and it's always hard for people to understand that.

That actually moved me ^_^ A heartfelt post indeed!

I also have very rare eye contact. I normally look down, or to the side of a person when i am talking to them. Though I also have no rituals or schedules that may seem "typical" for some members of the spectrum. You're also right on that it's more that if someone has enough traits of being autistic, that's what they are diagnosed as. I suppose in certain ways We are all similar, in at least one of the traits we have (i.e, Misayu, you and me have little eye contact). Otherwise, there would'nt be much point in considering someone to be autistic :P Still, what we have is what we have,and I wouldn't trade autism for the world; It's my personality!

I also have a thread question: When did you find out you had said disorder? How did you feel?

I personally found out from my mum when i was 8. At first i was happy that i had a solution for what people considered my "unusual" behaviour, but still shocked.

Amaruuk
January 27th, 2009, 09:35 AM
What I hate about Asperger's not being that clearly defined (and this might also be because my case is fairly mild) is when I explain it, people think I'm making **** up or just trying to find excuses for things. Even if they know kind of what it is, explaining makes people automatically assume I'm using a diagnosis as a crutch or something. People just suck sometimes, I suppose XD

I hate excuses anyway, and people who do use disabilities as a crutch or a pity magnet. I don't want pity, I want people to treat me as their equals, but still keep my quirks in mind so they understand the cause behind the way I am. I don't want to leave people in the dark only for them to find something out the hard way later. That's why I explain first thing.

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 09:35 AM
One of my best friends has aspergers. He goes to speach therepay and he's starting to sound better.

I had to take speech therapy too. It does help a lot but usually you still lack a proper vocabulary. I know I do. D: I sometimes have a hard time being able to explain what I want verbally, but can easily write down and explain it much better that way.

Kinarii: OMG, I know! I have the same problem. People always think I'm just making an excuse to get attention and I hate that. Yeah, I try do the same. I always make sure that people understand when I do something off than normal, not to lash out but to simply say, "oh, it's okay. Don't be mad over it." or something but not pity me.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 09:39 AM
I used to go to speech therapy too ^_^ Though problems with my verbal use were very, very mild for me, i wasn't there long.

PS: I edited a thread question into my previous post ^^

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 09:45 AM
That actually moved me ^_^ A heartfelt post indeed!

I also have very rare eye contact. I normally look down, or to the side of a person when i am talking to them. Though I also have no rituals or schedules that may seem "typical" for some members of the spectrum. You're also right on that it's more that if someone has enough traits of being autistic, that's what they are diagnosed as. I suppose in certain ways We are all similar, in at least one of the traits we have (i.e, Misayu, you and me have little eye contact). Otherwise, there would'nt be much point in considering someone to be autistic :P Still, what we have is what we have,and I wouldn't trade autism for the world; It's my personality!

I also have a thread question: When did you find out you had said disorder? How did you feel?

I personally found out from my mum when i was 8. At first i was happy that i had a solution for what people considered my "unusual" behaviour, but still shocked.

Well, for me, it was always hard because in Life skills, I was nitpicked for behavoirs and one time, at the bank while cashing our checks...it was me and a boy with down syndrome, my friend and he cut me by accident. I told him he was cutting but then the aide, her name was Bonnie told me not to yell at him.

See, before I go further, I have to say that I have problems with hearing the pitch of my actual voice. It results in my talking more loudly than I should and not even knowing. People always lash out at me because of it and always think they can fix it but they can't.

Anyway, back to the story, I snapped at Bonnie and she got even more mad because I was trying to tell her about my pitch problems and hearing but she wouldnt believe me.

Guess what she does? She takes us back to school and tells the teacher. The teacher, Sue, calls me in and acts me why I yelled. I specifically told her about my problems with hearing and pitch but she said I was making an excuse and I wasn't so here I was ready slap her and in tears at the same time, with her getting mad because I was snapping at her.

I mean god, what part of terrible pitch issues do people NOT understand? >_>

It has always been a problem for me because people seem to either not understand of forget that I have them and end up getting mad at me. I can't help it because it's the autism. o_o

I was diagnosed around 2 or 3, after not talking until four but I was never told I had it until later on in like my senior year when my mom started talking about it. I always thought I just had ADHD but then she finally said I had mild autism, a slow learning disability AND ADHD. Which really, made up for alot.

I also found out I had severe anxiety issues, which I take medication for. I take stimulant medication for my ADHD but that's really all. D:

I also discovered I had mild to moderate mental retardation and that makes up for my lack of being able to perform daily living skills and why I'm 20 years old, unemployed while recieving SSI benefits AND living with my parents dependance. D:

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 09:52 AM
Well, for me, it was always hard because in Life skills, I was nitpicked for behavoirs and one time, at the bank while cashing our checks...it was me and a boy with down syndrome, my friend and he cut me by accident. I told him he was cutting but then the aide, her name was Bonnie told me not to yell at him.

See, before I go further, I have to say that I have problems with hearing the pitch of my actual voice. It results in my talking more loudly than I should and not even knowing. People always lash out at me because of it and always think they can fix it but they can't.

Anyway, back to the story, I snapped at Bonnie and she got even more mad because I was trying to tell her about my pitch problems and hearing but she wouldnt believe me.

Guess what she does? She takes us back to school and tells the teacher. The teacher, Sue, calls me in and acts me why I yelled. I specifically told her about my problems with hearing and pitch but she said I was making an excuse and I wasn't so here I was ready slap her and in tears at the same time, with her getting mad because I was snapping at her.

I mean god, what part of terrible pitch issues do people NOT understand? >_>

It has always been a problem for me because people seem to either not understand of forget that I have them and end up getting mad at me. I can't help it because it's the autism. o_o

I really know where you're coming from there..I used to shout at my teachers over the smallest things i did. And some people are very foolish, because they become judgemental over why you're autistic. For example i used to be freinds with this guy, and afte a few months (I had told him about autism by then) He started saying stupid things like " I can tell you're autistic, you do this and that" Absolute BS. I ended things when he started calling me a retard in classes. Worse, the teacher didn't do a thing about it :( The kid was in hearing range too, I'm in the front row XD So was he.

Someitmes i really hate talking to people about it because they get their own ideas of what makes you autistic: basically, they start judging a part of you, what you ARE. Some people are really considerate though, i couldn't thank THOSE people enough. :P

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 09:56 AM
I really know where you're coming from there..I used to shout at my teachers over the smallest things i did. And some people are very foolish, because they become judgemental over why you're autistic. For example i used to be freinds with this guy, and afte a few months (I had told him about autism by then) He started saying stupid things like " I can tell you're autistic, you do this and that" Absolute BS. I ended things when he started calling me a retard in classes. Worse, the teacher didn't do a thing about it :( The kid was in hearing range too, I'm in the front row XD So was he.

Someitmes i really hate talking to people about it because they get their own ideas of what makes you autistic: basically, they start judging a part of you, what you ARE. Some people are really considerate though, i couldn't thank THOSE people enough. :P

Yeah, the hardest thing for me was my teachers. They never understand I was disabled. My second grade teacher was an ass because he made me sit in the back of the classroom against the wall. I couldn't turn around to face the class and I wasn't able to hear anything.

My teachers mistreated me and my mom always *****ed at them for it but it never seemed to get into their skulls.

I hardly ever made friends because I was always hanging out by the rocks. I would often take them home and collect them and prefer playing on the playground myself.

I act more like I am just an innocent seven year old child, rather than a twenty year old adult, like I should act. D:

Amaruuk
January 27th, 2009, 10:02 AM
No, it's not you. Sometimes I wonder if I even have it because I hardly ever have those violent meltdowns and even do the worst autistic behaviors. I only get mild behaviors and I never have any strict rituals...see, my autism seems much more complicated. It;s not like some serious thing for me since most of the time it seems pretty mild. It usually only gets worse when I deal with sound or social interaction. It's like, really loud sounds make me cover my ears but to be honest, that doesnt happen often and then with touch, I usually get overwhelmed by affection.
I'm kind of the same way, seeming mild most of the time (people even tell me I'm a lot more normal than I think), but in certain situations I'll go batshit crazy, for lack of a better term. Sound is a major trigger, and one that's impossible to ignore. I also have a strong fear of conflict, so little things like arguments or being around certain people who are an established source of conflict I will avoid at all costs. I never ever do anything that I know will cause an unnecessary argument or won't have a positive outcome that's worth the drama required to get to. Because of this, I'm the biggest goody-goody around, going out of my way to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm also prone to feeling guilty for things even if no one else cares or even notices.

I also have a thread question: When did you find out you had said disorder? How did you feel?
I don't really remember when exactly I was diagnosed or how I felt. I was really young, like probably 5 or 6.

One of my ex-boyfriends who also has Asperger's was not diagnosed till he was 20 (he's 22). Knowing him, I'm pretty glad mine was caught right away. Let's just say he's gonna have a tough time even wanting to become a member of society.

I've also noticed (and read about) that Asperger's is rarer in girls, harder to diagnose, and generally affects them somewhat differently than it does boys. Boys I've met IRL with it tend to be louder, having trouble controlling the volume of their voice, and often more irritable (though not always). Girls I've seen are more shy or reserved, and don't seem so obvious, which is likely why it's harder to diagnose them.

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 10:05 AM
I'm kind of the same way, seeming mild most of the time (people even tell me I'm a lot more normal than I think), but in certain situations I'll go batshit crazy, for lack of a better term. Sound is a major trigger, and one that's impossible to ignore. I also have a strong fear of conflict, so little things like arguments or being around certain people who are an established source of conflict I will avoid at all costs. I never ever do anything that I know will cause an unnecessary argument or won't have a positive outcome that's worth the drama required to get to. Because of this, I'm the biggest goody-goody around, going out of my way to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm also prone to feeling guilty for things even if no one else cares or even notices.


OMG me too! I always hate fighting or conflicts. One time, at the wal-mart we went to some guy was fighting with the cop and it scared me to the point where I started to freak out and cry. I don't really know how to explain it but I was like clinging to my dad and I was just scared of it for some reason, like it would put into danger or something...I don't if it was the yelling or what but I was just scared and totally freaking out. It was so bad that my parents ended up going to another wal-mart and the whole way, I was nibbling on my Inuyasha plush's ear just to calm myself down. D:

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 10:06 AM
I hardly ever made friends because I was always hanging out by the rocks. I would often take them home and collect them and prefer playing on the playground myself.

I think this is the part where i was actually quite lucky. I had a lot of opportunity to make friends before even knowing i was autistic, So it was easier. A lot of pupils at my school, older and younger were quite freindly. It's the teachers that really P***ed me off :P And some of the students. When i was in my second to final year of primary school (or lower school) i was being teased by this older kid about the things i did. this led to me reciting every insult i knew directed at his mother XD which earned me getting tripped up and kicked in the head a few times. Fortunately that was one of the times the teachers actually sided with me :P

EDIT: Yeah i've also heard that Autism is less frequent/harder to diagnose in girls. I have no explanation as to why that could be though, you've beaten me there Kinarii :P

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 10:10 AM
I think this is the part where i was actually quite lucky. I had a lot of opportunity to make friends before even knowing i was autistic, So it was easier. A lot of pupils at my school, older and younger were quite freindly. It's the teachers that really P***ed me off :P And some of the students. When i was in my second to final year of primary school (or lower school) i was being teased by this older kid about the things i did. this led to me reciting every insult i knew directed at his mother XD which earned me getting tripped up and kicked in the head a few times. Fortunately that was one of the times the teachers actually sided with me :P

Well, I was always quiet and reserved. I never did any interaction and I usually still don't interact much unless I need to. It's so bad that my parents have to talk for me and my dad has gone to the extreme of getting power of attorney for everything so he can talk for me. It's because when I have to talk on the phone, I end up getting a panic attack and freaking out, when really its no big deal because it's just a phone call.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 10:15 AM
Well, I was always quiet and reserved. I never did any interaction and I usually still don't interact much unless I need to. It's so bad that my parents have to talk for me and my dad has gone to the extreme of getting power of attorney for everything so he can talk for me. It's because when I have to talk on the phone, I end up getting a panic attack and freaking out, when really its no big deal because it's just a phone call.

To add to this, People get frustrated cause they think i make excuses for why i act like this. (I know kinarii mentioned something along these lines a while back), Probably because we are aware of the "unusual" things we do sometimes. I think that might be a reason, anyway :P

And i used to get panic attacks at school during loud parts of pantomimes. That was it though, i just went out the room whenever they came

Amaruuk
January 27th, 2009, 10:17 AM
I hardly ever made friends because I was always hanging out by the rocks. I would often take them home and collect them and prefer playing on the playground myself.
Rocks = infinitely better than classmates

When I was growing up, teachers were all I had. The private school I went to from Pre-K through 8th grade had only 70-80 or so people per grade, but not one even cared that I existed. For years I tried so hard to jump in to those little circles they would stand in and chatter on the playground or in the halls. All I can say is that a ghost would have had better luck getting a word in edgewise or even being noticed at all. So I became a teacher's pet because of my love of learning and my epic failure at talking to people my own age.

On another note, I too have the volume issue thing.

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 10:20 AM
To add to this, People get frustrated cause they think i make excuses for why i act like this. (I know kinarii mentioned something along these lines a while back), Probably because we are aware of the "unusual" things we do sometimes. I think that might be a reason, anyway :P

And i used to get panic attacks at school during loud parts of pantomimes. That was it though, i just went out the room whenever they came

Yeah, same here. I was at another forum and I had to leave because these people who I thought were my friends, always wondered I didnt act normal and I told them about my disabilities but they went and said, "I think you just have problems and need to get help from a doctor. You don't seem disabled you just seem like some weird reject." and after that I never told anyone online about my disability, at least until now when I came here because people at PC, some people, seem to understand more about it and realize that's not something I can just turn off all the time.

Alot of people still have a hard time understanding that I'm autistic and my obsessions or behaviors will always be there, whether they like it or not. I mean if I could turn off the fact I was autistic that would be a luxury but I can't and that's why people just need to think before acting out and saying I've got problems.

Kinarii: Same here! I was always a ghost to just about everyone. I mean my whole class picked on me and normally you would think two kids but this was like, my entire class! I was always the retard everyone picked on and had felt like I didn't belong. It was hard to make friends because everyone just thought I was more than different, they thought I was some kind of retard or something...

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 10:43 AM
I really hate it when people just think it's something that's..adjustable. you can't adjust who you are, just like everybody else, people should be able to understand that people like us have to live with these things. Still, we have the opportunity to share our experiences in this thread like this, which some people can't because they'd have nothing to say! :P

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 10:51 AM
I really hate it when people just think it's something that's..adjustable. you can't adjust who you are, just like everybody else, people should be able to understand that people like us have to live with these things. Still, we have the opportunity to share our experiences in this thread like this, which some people can't because they'd have nothing to say! :P

Yeah, I feel good letting it out to fellow autistic people. I mean at least when you talk to other people who share the same boat as you, it makes coping with it easier. I mean it let's you know that there are people out there just like you. :3

Anyway, what do you think about those people who want to cure autism? D: I mean I wouldn't mind if it was out there for those that wanted it but to me, it makes me, being autistic, feel like I have some disease. I'm not diseased I have a disorder and I think instead of venting over not having a cure, people not start realizing that their child just needs love and nourishment. It makes me sick how parents would go through the extra mile of wanting to cure their child for being diseased.

I mean cancer and AIDS are diseases. They need cures because they can kill you in a matter of months. It's sad when someone gets cancer because sometimes, they won't have much time to live and others get lucky and find ways of keeping it in control.

But for Autism, it's not a cancer and it can't kill anyone. It's just there as a developmental disability.

Autism can be cared for by teaching a child how to adapt with special therapy. Some parents seem to freak out because their child is autistic and think its the end of the world, but its not.

I mean, I do know that some people hate being autistic and sure, if there can be an optional cure out there, do it. But let's not abuse it just because a person wants their child cured free. I mean Autism is just like down syndrome or Mental Retardation. It can have its downers but it also has advantages too. It's not like the child is going to grow up as a retard, it just means the child will grow up slower than normal children.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 11:10 AM
Yeah, I feel good letting it out to fellow autistic people. I mean at least when you talk to other people who share the same boat as you, it makes coping with it easier. I mean it let's you know that there are people out there just like you. :3

Anyway, what do you think about those people who want to cure autism? D: I mean I wouldn't mind if it was out there for those that wanted it but to me, it makes me, being autistic, feel like I have some disease. I'm not diseased I have a disorder and I think instead of venting over not having a cure, people not start realizing that their child just needs love and nourishment. It makes me sick how parents would go through the extra mile of wanting to cure their child for being diseased.

I mean cancer and AIDS are diseases. They need cures because they can kill you in a matter of months. It's sad when someone gets cancer because sometimes, they won't have much time to live and others get lucky and find ways of keeping it in control.

But for Autism, it's not a cancer and it can't kill anyone. It's just there as a developmental disability.

Autism can be cared for by teaching a child how to adapt with special therapy. Some parents seem to freak out because their child is autistic and think its the end of the world, but its not.

I mean, I do know that some people hate being autistic and sure, if there can be an optional cure out there, do it. But let's not abuse it just because a person wants their child cured free. I mean Autism is just like down syndrome or Mental Retardation. It can have its downers but it also has advantages too. It's not like the child is going to grow up as a retard, it just means the child will grow up slower than normal children.

And in some cases, Autism can lead to a child having some outstanding abilities, like those kids who can look at a cathedral in France, go back to say, England and draw it PERFECTLY. Bill gates is autistic, and without him, we would probably not be talking about this. Albert Einstein was also presumed to be.. AUTISTIC. :3

I doubt there will ever be a cure for Autism though. It's a developmental disorder on the point of being a personality trait, the lines that make it are so thin and apply in many different contexts. I wouldn't want to be cured anyway :P It's a part of me. And plus, all of the things i've gained from knowing that i'm autistic..It'd seem like a waste now that i was "cured" XD

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 11:20 AM
And in some cases, Autism can lead to a child having some outstanding abilities, like those kids who can look at a cathedral in France, go back to say, England and draw it PERFECTLY. Bill gates is autistic, and without him, we would probably not be talking about this. Albert Einstein was also presumed to be.. AUTISTIC. :3

I doubt there will ever be a cure for Autism though. It's a developmental disorder on the point of being a personality trait, the lines that make it are so thin and apply in many different contexts. I wouldn't want to be cured anyway :P It's a part of me. And plus, all of the things i've gained from knowing that i'm autistic..It'd seem like a waste now that i was "cured" XD

Well, just think, if there was a cure for autism. Everyone would just abuse it. I think what parents need is reassurance. Like, if you're going to have a first born child, the doctor needs to warn the parents first hand, I mean at least that way, it will give the parents a way of knowing something about Autism.

The problem with parents is that they are the ones at fault for thinking their child is autistic. I mean there are cases out there where a parent will freak out because their child isn't playing with other children or...because their child has some behavioral issue. Misdiagnosis can happen and sometimes it could just be ADHD. You always get those crackpot doctors that don't know influenza from a bad cold.

I mean they need to really put their foot down and try to make advertisements about Autism, letting people know the warning signs and assuring them that its only a developmental disorder.

You're right, it doesn't need a cure. It just needs to be put out there more than it already is.

In other words, it needs to be exploited more and directed away from needing a cure. I mean walks are okay as long as they aren't directed towards gaining money for cures. I think having walks for Autism makes it easier for us to meet other people who share our concerns, not for us to walk for a cure.

Save all the cure business for something that needs it, like cancer.

I mean hell, nobody even knows what causes autism. If they want a cure so badly, why don't they wait until they find a cause? It makes it easier because if they find an official cause, they can use that cause to warn parents not to do something.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 11:33 AM
Well, just think, if there was a cure for autism. Everyone would just abuse it. I think what parents need is reassurance. Like, if you're going to have a first born child, the doctor needs to warn the parents first hand, I mean at least that way, it will give the parents a way of knowing something about Autism.

The problem with parents is that they are the ones at fault for thinking their child is autistic. I mean there are cases out there where a parent will freak out because their child isn't playing with other children or...because their child has some behavioral issue. Misdiagnosis can happen and sometimes it could just be ADHD. You always get those crackpot doctors that don't know influenza from a bad cold.

I mean they need to really put their foot down and try to make advertisements about Autism, letting people know the warning signs and assuring them that its only a developmental disorder.

You're right, it doesn't need a cure. It just needs to be put out there more than it already is.

In other words, it needs to be exploited more and directed away from needing a cure. I mean walks are okay as long as they aren't directed towards gaining money for cures. I think having walks for Autism makes it easier for us to meet other people who share our concerns, not for us to walk for a cure.

Save all the cure business for something that needs it, like cancer.

I mean hell, nobody even knows what causes autism. If they want a cure so badly, why don't they wait until they find a cause? It makes it easier because if they find an official cause, they can use that cause to warn parents not to do something.

You're absolutely right. ^_^ Why are people trying to find a cure for autism when all we have for a cause is a mere hypothesis? Our disorder just gets into the headlines occasionally, with someone bleating that the MMR vaccine had something to do with autism, which i don't believe. People can be so misunderstanding to the point of amusing and cruel.

I have almost given up on explaining to people what autism is when they ask me what it is..A few years back, I've known two people in two of my classes actually ask the teacher " What is autism?" and the teacher replies with "It's kind of like where your brain works a bit differently." And oh boy, do i get some funny looks then..

Still, it feels great to vent this stuff out. It'd be worth stickying this just for people like us to talk about the problems we have autism wise in a thread that isn't so..open. Not somewhere like the DCC where ANYONE could reply, with any comment, you know what i mean?

star88
January 27th, 2009, 11:36 AM
Thats exactly what i was told ^__^ that everyone is on the autistic spectrum SOMEWHERE. It made me feel a lot better :)

glad to cheer you up rival;) if you want to know more you can just pm questions

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 11:40 AM
You're absolutely right. ^_^ Why are people trying to find a cure for autism when all we have for a cause is a mere hypothesis? Our disorder just gets into the headlines occasionally, with someone bleating that the MMR vaccine had something to do with autism, which i don't believe. People can be so misunderstanding to the point of amusing and cruel.

I have almost given up on explaining to people what autism is when they ask me what it is..A few years back, I've known two people in two of my classes actually ask the teacher " What is autism?" and the teacher replies with "It's kind of like where your brain works a bit differently." And oh boy, do i get some funny looks then..

Still, it feels great to vent this stuff out. It'd be worth stickying this just fro people like us to talk about the problems we have autism wise in a thread that isn't so..open. Not somewhere like the DCC where ANYONE could reply, with any comment, you know what i mean?

Yeah, I know. I mean it's being exploited in the wrong ways. That's what scares everyone into thinking its some terrible epidemic.

I have too. I mean if someone really wants to know, I usually just direct them to a wikipedia article or to look it up on google or something.

Well, you'd have to talk to a mod or high staffer about that. D:

I love being who I am. I mean I'm just like everyone else when it comes to feeling like I'm worthless. Everyone tends to fall down once in a while and it's not just us autistic people who fall down and think we are totally useless.

Also, another autism topic, do you have any sort of sensory/comfort object?

For me, it's my Inuyasha plush. I'm always lugging him everywhere because I feel totally at ease when I have him in my arms or nearby. That's why in tough situations where ym autism is at its worst, I know he can be there to hug and calm me down. He's more than just a plush to because he's my best friend. <3

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 11:41 AM
glad to cheer you up rival;) if you want to know more you can just pm questions

Lol cheers, Star ^__^ I know quite a lot about autism though :P When i was younger i wanted to find out more about this "condition" i was being told i had. Did you ever do that, Misayu? :P

EDIT: I used to have a comfort object :) It used to be this Crash Bandicoot plush, cause i was obsessed with the games when i was little. My psychologist gave me stress balls when i got older though

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 11:43 AM
Lol cheers, Star ^__^ I know quite a lot about autism though :P When i was younger i wanted to find out more about this "condition" i was being told i had. Did you ever do that, Misayu? :P

EDIT: I used to have a comfort object :) It used to be this Crash Bandicoot plush, cause i was obsessed with the games when i was little. My psychologist gave me stress balls when i got older though

I've been doing that. I know more about it then my mom does and I've learned more about my many behaviors and feel at ease thinking its just something I couldnt explain.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 11:47 AM
Lol i think out of everyone in my family, my brother was the hardest to deal with when it came to explaining autism. He seemed to think that i was being treated especially, and he wasn't. *_* Daft kid. He's 18 now, we don't get on XD My mum knows quite a bit about it, and my dad...a little :P

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 11:50 AM
Lol i think out of everyone in my family, my brother was the hardest to deal with when it came to explaining autism. He seemed to think that i was being treated especially, and he wasn't. *_* Daft kid. He's 18 now, we don't get on XD My mum knows quite a bit about it, and my dad...a little :P

This is a picture of my comfort object right here: http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll404/Yuusaki_Misayu/Novel%20Pictures/cbc1e00a.jpg

He has a bell collar because he gets caught under the covers when I sleep with him. Sometimes the bell is just a sort of comfort for me because I tend to like how it sounds and it has a soothing sort of effect.

Amaruuk
January 27th, 2009, 11:52 AM
I don't recall where, but I remember reading something that mentioned Satoshi Tajiri, creator of Pokemon, in a list of famous Aspies. I don't know if it's true, but I wouldn't put it past someone that talented. I always liked reading about ones with uber-specialized talents, and thought they were pretty awesome. I'm more versatile, so each of my talents isn't so spectacular, but rather my specialty is gaining more skills with little effort instead of the skills themselves.

I have also read somewhere that in places on the internet, regular people are claiming to be Aspies to exuse themeselves for being rude or antisocial, without really understanding what it means to be one, but I haven't been anywhere where I've seen it happening, so that's good.

About the cure thing. No fudgin' way. Parents in general can't be trusted with something like that, even if they do come up with one. Look at ADHD. Look at how many misdiagnoses and parents that slap labels on kids because they don't actually know how to be parents. I was a medication guinea pig myself, though I have a form of manic-depression, not ADHD. I hate pills and I hate that my mom failed to see they were unnecessary until I moved away and quit them myself. It's a heavy blow to one's low sense of pride when their own parent(s) think(s) they need to shove pills down their throat every day to be a functioning human being. I'm sure she still thinks I need them. She's so childish. Between the two of us, I'm the adult and she's the snivelling four-year-old.

There is one thing the world desperately needs in regard to Autism/Asperger's, though: Awareness

'Nuff said.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 11:54 AM
This is a picture of my comfort object right here: http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll404/Yuusaki_Misayu/Novel%20Pictures/cbc1e00a.jpg

He has a bell collar because he gets caught under the covers when I sleep with him. Sometimes the bell is just a sort of comfort for me because I tend to like how it sounds and it has a soothing sort of effect.

:3 I love Inuyasha :P It must've served you well :P I had my own comfort thing for a few years, and then stopped. But i still keep him, he's on my shelf. :P I'll try and take a pic when i find my camera

EDIT: Satoshi Tajiri DOES have autism :) I've read that aswell. We are up with the all time greats here!

There is one thing the world desperately needs in regard to Autism/Asperger's, though: Awareness

'Nuff said.

That statement probably had more epic win than any i have ever heard. :3

Amaruuk
January 27th, 2009, 12:04 PM
Shoot, by the time I finish a post, there are like 3 others. Epic thread is epic! XD

Anyways, I've gone through countless comfort objects. Usually it's some sort of plushie, stuffed animal, trinket, or figure. Currently it's a Kenshin plushie <3

Bells are also wonderful things to have around. I love their sound, and also the sound from music boxes. All my music boxes are at either of my parents' houses halfway across the country, though TT^TT

EDIT: Why thank you, Nobel! :3

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 12:08 PM
XD I had no idea the thread would skyrocket like this. It's a hot thread in just over a day. XD

Yeah my comfort object was my trusty plush, but my parents gave me small crystals (we used to own a store that sold crystal and beautiful stones) I used to take them EVERYWHERE. :) so i too have been through my share :3

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 12:14 PM
Shoot, by the time I finish a post, there are like 3 others. Epic thread is epic! XD

Anyways, I've gone through countless comfort objects. Usually it's some sort of plushie, stuffed animal, trinket, or figure. Currently it's a Kenshin plushie <3

Bells are also wonderful things to have around. I love their sound, and also the sound from music boxes. All my music boxes are at either of my parents' houses halfway across the country, though TT^TT

EDIT: Why thank you, Nobel! :3


Well, I've stuck with my Inuyasha plush for a while. :3 I have other plushes I sleep with but he's much more special.

See, when i got him, it was more like fate because I found later he was an ultra rare plushie! Anyway, I found him at this used buy sell trade place and I made my dad buy it right away, I've always loved Inuyasha because Inuyasha has always been something I consider as getting me going. XD My Inuyasha plush has been there with me ever since. <3

Angela
January 27th, 2009, 12:29 PM
MATURE DISCUSSION ONLY. NO INSULTS/FLAMING/BASHING.

I have been thinking that there may be some people on PC that have disorders such as Autism, Aspergers syndrome, ADHD, or whatever. (i should think any kind of disability fits in the criteria of this thread ^__^) So i made this for people to talk about it, and talk to other people who seem to be, shall we say, "in the same boat "

I might aswell start. I have very mild autism. This was more of a problem for me when i was younger, as i had to go to speech therapy and stuff. but now It's almost like it was never there! ^^

Now we can carry on and maturely discuss. If this thread gets out of hand (which i really don't want it to) i'll tell Chibi/Driflloon/ whoever can to close it.

EDIT: if you have a family member/friend who has a certain disorder/whatever, feel free to mention. This doesn't just have to be about you ^^


Well my older brother has the one called short attention span.


I'm reading a book at the moment called curious incident of the dog or something like that, it's about a boy with autism, well that book really puts things into another perspective.

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 12:31 PM
Well my older brother has the one called short attention span.


I'm reading a book at the moment called curious incident of the dog or something like that, it's about a boy with autism, well that book really puts things into another perspective.

I have a short attention span too. It totally throws me off because I keep going from one subject to another. In stories, I can never even finish them without running for another idea I have. DX

It actually stems from having ADHD.

Anyway, what are some things you can think of that you find good about your disability? :O

For me, I can say that having a disability usually helps people that need to know, I am disabled. I won't say it gets me out of things but in a way, it does if it is something that causes me to have a panic attack.

My disability has actually made me feel special, you know sort of unique and not like other people because I'm not stuck following someone else's path. I follow my own and I try to make the best of my disability in anyway that I can. ^^

Amaruuk
January 27th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Anyway, what are some things you can think of that you find good about your disability? :O

For me, I can say that having a disability usually helps people that need to know, I am disabled. I won't say it gets me out of things but in a way, it does if it is something that causes me to have a panic attack.

My disability has actually made me feel special, you know sort of unique and not like other people because I'm not stuck following someone else's path. I follow my own and I try to make the best of my disability in anyway that I can. ^^
I think given my walls of text I have described (in detail) most of the prominent benefits of Asperger's, but you bring up a good point about Aspies being unquestionably unique. I like to think of myself as a real nonconformist, not even conforming to nonconformism or trends that are supposedly "against the grain." I like what I like and do what I do, and often my reasons behind such things aren't the same reasons other people like/do those things.

An example is how I'm a bookworm and love reading, but when one pictures someone who loves reading, they think of someone reading lots of stories or novels, not encyclopedias and reference. I also like dragons and fantasy creatures, but I don't read fantasy novels or play D&D or other fantasy games. I haven't even seen very many fantasy films. Pretty much any fanbase or trend I do end up in, I'm not anything like others in that category and have completely different motives for joining. I like those things, but I don't feel like a part of that "culture." I'm always nervous about approaching people in a group like that because I feel like I'm not quite one of them, like with the dragon example. Most people that like them do at least one of the things I mentioned. Technically, a gamer is someone who plays video games, right? But though I play video games, I don't feel like I "belong" in gamer culture. Going up to someone and saying that I like dragons or video games is going to give that person an impression of who they think I am, and I rarely fit into molds people have of what makes a fan of -insert something here-.

I also don't like when people like my family or other people who don't know me very well try to get me gifts based on what I say I like. Saying I like "anime" or "dragons" or anything else really is up to interpretation, and I hate the thought of people forming false assumtions about me or understanding me wrong because of left out details. Maybe that has something to do with why I type/speak in text walls, because I have trouble differentiating between important information and unnecessary detail.

Ugh. Sorry this post sounds a little scatterbrained. I left half my brain in the class I just got home from >.<

Idiot!
January 27th, 2009, 04:13 PM
I find it seriously hard to make friends. Most people just do not and don't want to understand me.

I got tormented by bullies because I just cannot ignore their words. I think my pain receptors are super sensitive too, like my touch receptors. I complain a lot about my clothes because of the annoying tag, tightness and texture. People just don't understand it because they do not feel it.

Tinhead Bruce
January 27th, 2009, 04:47 PM
Well, I have A.D.D, not sure how severe of a case it is though. It can be really tough not being able to pay attention, as if really hinders my grades and everything. I just got diagnosed in September, so I haven't known about it for that long.

Reading your guys' posts has made me think that I might have a mild autism or something along those lines. I've had a pretty tough time making friends, and I also feel a lot that no one understands me. I tend to get engrossed in something, and can put anything about it out of the top of my head. Somethings I can never get interested or involved in though. A few people I know have told me that people with some sort of mental disorder tend to be smarter, and I've noticed that about myself. I think about the world a lot, and why we are here. I love to philosophize about and overthink anything and everything. It's really tough sometimes, but I view it as a blessing. I have certain symptoms of OCD that make me think I have mild autism as well, like I cannot touch anything that has been touched by someone else who hasn't washed their hands recently. My behavior when dealing with food borders on manic most of the time, and that is really difficult to deal with as well.

So there, I got all I needed to off my chest. I hate who I am sometimes, but thinking about it now, I would never change who I am.

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 04:54 PM
I think given my walls of text I have described (in detail) most of the prominent benefits of Asperger's, but you bring up a good point about Aspies being unquestionably unique. I like to think of myself as a real nonconformist, not even conforming to nonconformism or trends that are supposedly "against the grain." I like what I like and do what I do, and often my reasons behind such things aren't the same reasons other people like/do those things.

An example is how I'm a bookworm and love reading, but when one pictures someone who loves reading, they think of someone reading lots of stories or novels, not encyclopedias and reference. I also like dragons and fantasy creatures, but I don't read fantasy novels or play D&D or other fantasy games. I haven't even seen very many fantasy films. Pretty much any fanbase or trend I do end up in, I'm not anything like others in that category and have completely different motives for joining. I like those things, but I don't feel like a part of that "culture." I'm always nervous about approaching people in a group like that because I feel like I'm not quite one of them, like with the dragon example. Most people that like them do at least one of the things I mentioned. Technically, a gamer is someone who plays video games, right? But though I play video games, I don't feel like I "belong" in gamer culture. Going up to someone and saying that I like dragons or video games is going to give that person an impression of who they think I am, and I rarely fit into molds people have of what makes a fan of -insert something here-.

I also don't like when people like my family or other people who don't know me very well try to get me gifts based on what I say I like. Saying I like "anime" or "dragons" or anything else really is up to interpretation, and I hate the thought of people forming false assumtions about me or understanding me wrong because of left out details. Maybe that has something to do with why I type/speak in text walls, because I have trouble differentiating between important information and unnecessary detail.

Ugh. Sorry this post sounds a little scatterbrained. I left half my brain in the class I just got home from >.<


Well, for me I tend to love trains. I mean most of the time, you think, "oh, well kids like trains..." but for me I have always been fascinted just by their beauty. Everytime I go on a train, like passenger wise it always fills me with joy and I HAVE to get a train whistle or something. I even touched a train once we were at williams az. It was a grand canyon train and I was a very happy person. When I travel, I'll take a picture of a train going by. The whistle is like music to me ears and sometimes at a hotel, I have a hard time sleeping because usually I have a ritual of falling asleep with the TV and having fans on full blast because it drowns it any scary night noise that keeps me from sleeping and anyway, hearing a train whistle helps me sleep and most of time with my intolerance for noise, it would be hell for me.

I also love ambulances and ice cream trucks I mean, must autistic children do have strage attachments to such objects or focus on one obsession. For me, i have two and that is anime and Trains. :'D

Also, I am a very avid writer. Alot of the times, people will say I'm a great writer but see, the drawback is that, if you tell me to write a story say, about unicorns and rainbows, well guess what? You're out of luck. The big problem was people always said I could write, what they didnt understand was that I write in freestyle. In other words, I can only write what comes to mind. I can't write about a topic someone gives me because its not based on my best interest. This made it really hard for me when doing current events.

I think of writing as being my savant ability because I can express myself better when writing things down, which you can see.

I could seriously write forever and not be bothered at all by what I write or how I write it and for, me it comes easier when I can't explain something verbally.

J£¡zåя∂27: I have ADHD and I can feel your pain. D: Even being on a stimulant medication, I find it really difficult to focus but I'n bothered more by my short attention span. I tend to move from one story idea to the next, and never finishing the first story. It bothers me because I have these unfinished stories and have no idea where I left off or what I thought while writing them. >_< Plus, being easily distracted gets me off balance too because it was hard for me to get homework down when people were talking in the background or just making noise.

It's possible that you have asperger's because mild autism is usually not far from being severe. I had a delay in speech and didnt talk until I was four. Asperger syndrome usually goes undiagnosed for a long time and usually isn't recognizable until later in life.

(Sorry if your name is wrong, appearantly my computer doesn't recognize all the symbols. >_<)

Yeah, same here. I've always been bothered when my dad pokes me or sometimes just brushes past me. I get so upset over it and I really shouldn't. I also seem bothered by clothing. I mean, not to be tmi-ish but i like running around in a t-shirt and underpants because I feel comfortable that way.

My mom doesn't understand this because, really it isn't lady-like. She always tells me to put some clothes on. I sleep like that too, in my underpants and shirt because I hate the way my pajama pants rise up my legs.

In the car, I'll take off my shoes and socks because I prefer my feet to be free. I even wander around in my bare feet because I just feel better that way.

Don't worry, I DO wear clothes. XD I'm just saying when I'm at home. In public, I usually wear pajama bottoms and a shirt and don't care how I look to other people. I mean hell, I'm comfortable, right? It's better than feeling tight clothes.

I actually like lose clothing because it feels less annoying.

Tinhead Bruce
January 27th, 2009, 05:02 PM
Well, for me I tend to love trains. I mean most of the time, you think, "oh, well kids like trains..." but for me I have always been fascinted just by their beauty. Everytime I go on a train, like passenger wise it always fills me with joy and I HAVE to get a train whistle or something. I even touched a train once we were at williams az. It was a grand canyon train and I was a very happy person. When I travel, I'll take a picture of a train going by. The whistle is like music to me ears and sometimes at a hotel, I have a hard time sleeping because usually I have a ritual of falling asleep with the TV and having fans on full blast because it drowns it any scary night noise that keeps me from sleeping and anyway, hearing a train whistle helps me sleep and most of time with my intolerance for noise, it would be hell for me.

I also love ambulances and ice cream trucks I mean, must autistic children do have strage attachments to such objects or focus on one obsession. For me, i have two and that is anime and Trains. :'D

Also, I am a very avid writer. Alot of the times, people will say I'm a great writer but see, the drawback is that, if you tell me to write a story say, about unicorns and rainbows, well guess what? You're out of luck. The big problem was people always said I could write, what they didnt understand was that I write in freestyle. In other words, I can only write what comes to mind. I can't write about a topic someone gives me because its not based on my best interest. This made it really hard for me when doing current events.

I think of writing as being my savant ability because I can express myself better when writing things down, which you can see.

I could seriously write forever and not be bothered at all by what I write or how I write it and for, me it comes easier when I can't explain something verbally.

J£¡zåя∂27: I have ADHD and I can feel your pain. D: Even being on a stimulant medication, I find it really difficult to focus but I'n bothered more by my short attention span. I tend to move from one story idea to the next, and never finishing the first story. It bothers me because I have these unfinished stories and have no idea where I left off or what I thought while writing them. >_< Plus, being easily distracted gets me off balance too because it was hard for me to get homework down when people were talking in the background or just making noise.

(Sorry if your name is wrong, appearantly my computer doesn't recognize all the symbols. >_<)

Yeah, what you said in response to my post is the same with me. It's really hard to write when there is any noise, because I get distracted and then never can pick up where I left off.

What I made bold in your post is the same with me, except I write non-fiction. Op-eds, News stories, anything non-fiction I love to write. That's why I love op-eds, because I get to do just that: express my opinions, which I do better on a computer or on paper. I guess that's why I'm the only Freshmen on my school newspaper. XD

h POKE
January 27th, 2009, 05:07 PM
... I think I'm a bit late to the... er, party. Ah, well. I happen to know mental disability quite well. My school runs a program called "Life Skills", in which children with severe autism and down syndrome from all over my state are gathered for a program to help them learn, well, life skills.

They go to many of the same classes as the other kids do, but for the most part they have to stay in one classroom almost all day, which I think wouldn't be cool at all. There are also hundreds (maybe not THAT much, but I know many) of kids at my school with hearing disabilities, dyslexia, ADD, ADHD, even drug addiction.

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Well, it's not the distractions that keep me from finishing, it's the short attention span I get. I mean I could write a story about say...Haruhi going to the beach with Kyon, right? Well a few days later, I'm writing about Orihime and friends going camping and then some what later its Lelouch and friends going to a museum...basically, I get one idea after another that causes me to lose track of my other ideas.

Poke: A school did that for me too, ran a life skills program. I hated it because they always nitpicked me and actually caused me to have more crying spells and anxiety attacks, basically not understanding why I was disabled in the first place. I ended up leaving it and graduating when I was supposed to.

Tinhead Bruce
January 27th, 2009, 05:12 PM
Exactly. It tends to be both for me. There are too many things to write about!

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 05:20 PM
Well, I take a stimulant medication that does help me focus more. It helps control some of the more impulsive-hyperactive behaviors.

Tinhead Bruce
January 27th, 2009, 05:25 PM
Yeah. I'm just on Ritalin for now. We'll see if it works.

Zeta Patchouli
January 27th, 2009, 05:36 PM
This thread... reminds me of one time when I was in ACE. Before I tell you the story, I will tell you that I have Minor Autism, and it took a big whack at how I speak. I can speak fine, but I have to really watch what I say. I also have the outbursts. They are major outbursts, I never get minor ones.

Anyway, I said the wrong thing, and everyone laughed at me. I got so mad, that I wanted to harm, or even kill everyone in there... And I was about to attack, when the teacher was able to calm me down. In the state I was in, I probably could have actually done some damage, and gotten arrested. The teacher explained to the entire class what happened. In actuallity, my own worst enemy is myself. If I were to let down my guard, then I would probably end up attacking someone... again.

I also have problems with loud sounds, I always have to cover my ears. I can't type the way you are taught in school at all, no matter how hard I try, and how long I practice, I just can't do it. But my writing is phonominal. If I were to take an IQ test, I would be labeled as 130+, I forgot what I had when I last checked, but when the school tested me to see how 'advanced' I was, a lot of things I scored an 18.0 grade level(Master Degree Graduate) And this was when I was in middle school last year.

I can't eat most fruits, or vegetables with the exception of bananas, or my gag reflex will act up.

I was actually told I had autism when I was in the sixth grade. I could barely speak much until I was four, then I started picking up my vocabulary easily.

I have trouble with processing emotions well, to other people, it seems I have none, unless I get lucky and am given an oppertinity to act it out with basic ones, or have a lot of sugar and am hyper, oh, and I am also anti-social.

Let me think... I have a friend with ADD, one with ADHD, and ADD, and I believe I have two with Aspergers, or some form of autism, anyway. And... yeah, that's it... four friends, five if you count my brother.

I hope I worded this right, as I am not sure. But it feels better to get it out.

Tinhead Bruce
January 27th, 2009, 05:48 PM
I get the worst outbursts as well. I'll just yell at someone for no real reason. AT my old school I was labeled anything and everything you could label someone. A racist, a bigot, a masochist.

I need to point out that I am more aware of, and advocate more for the various civil rights movements going on than many of my schoolmates ever will (be). I am in no way racist, or any type of -ist. I just get angry sometimes, and people take it as a slam against a certain culture.

I hate my brain and mouth so much sometimes.

Zeta Patchouli
January 27th, 2009, 06:22 PM
Do you end up actually physically hurting them, trying to stab them with something, yelling out "I will kill you!"? Just because the kid who was the victim, who was always annoying me said.

"Yeah, we have to work together, or you'll fail." Of course he said it like a taunt, but still... The teacher had to pair me up with the two people, guarenteed(sp?) to make me mad.

Yeah... But I think it was for the best, I am able to control my anger a lot better then I was then. The kid wasn't hurt, and by the time I got out of ACE, he was in another class, due to a schedule change. I think, that day, I scared my classmates so much, for when they laughed at the look on the kids face, and I took it the wrong way, and basically threatened the whole class, everyone just shut up. But yeah... I can control myself a lot better now.

Amaruuk
January 27th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Poke: A school did that for me too, ran a life skills program. I hated it because they always nitpicked me and actually caused me to have more crying spells and anxiety attacks, basically not understanding why I was disabled in the first place. I ended up leaving it and graduating when I was supposed to.
My parents took me out of the college prep school and put me in a "special kid" school when I began high school. I have to say the teachers at the college prep school were much better equipped to deal with Asperger's than the ones at the "special" school. The latter seemed to be trained exlusively to teach and deal with ADHD and things like dyslexia, but apparently not Asperger's or Manic-Depression. I was lumped with the rest of them even though Asperger's is clearly not ADHD, and the structures required to teach or manage them are completely different, if not opposite. I'm a pretty autonomous learner. Extra structure is completely unnecessary and stressful. The teachers weren't as understanding, either. Having breakdowns and crying under tables in class ensued.

This thread... reminds me of one time when I was in ACE. Before I tell you the story, I will tell you that I have Minor Autism, and it took a big whack at how I speak. I can speak fine, but I have to really watch what I say. I also have the outbursts. They are major outbursts, I never get minor ones.

Anyway, I said the wrong thing, and everyone laughed at me. I got so mad, that I wanted to harm, or even kill everyone in there... And I was about to attack, when the teacher was able to calm me down. In the state I was in, I probably could have actually done some damage, and gotten arrested. The teacher explained to the entire class what happened. In actuallity, my own worst enemy is myself. If I were to let down my guard, then I would probably end up attacking someone... again.

I also have problems with loud sounds, I always have to cover my ears. I can't type the way you are taught in school at all, no matter how hard I try, and how long I practice, I just can't do it. But my writing is phonominal. If I were to take an IQ test, I would be labeled as 130+, I forgot what I had when I last checked, but when the school tested me to see how 'advanced' I was, a lot of things I scored an 18.0 grade level(Master Degree Graduate) And this was when I was in middle school last year.

I can't eat most fruits, or vegetables with the exception of bananas, or my gag reflex will act up.

I was actually told I had autism when I was in the sixth grade. I could barely speak much until I was four, then I started picking up my vocabulary easily.

I have trouble with processing emotions well, to other people, it seems I have none, unless I get lucky and am given an oppertinity to act it out with basic ones, or have a lot of sugar and am hyper, oh, and I am also anti-social.

Let me think... I have a friend with ADD, one with ADHD, and ADD, and I believe I have two with Aspergers, or some form of autism, anyway. And... yeah, that's it... four friends, five if you count my brother.

I hope I worded this right, as I am not sure. But it feels better to get it out.
Welcome to the thread! Everyone deserves to get these things out :3

Glad to know I'm not the only one who's so severely affected by the gag-reflex curse. Even among other Aspies, it's not a common trait as far as I've seen.

Soul Eater
January 27th, 2009, 08:33 PM
I think the only REAL outburst I had was because my stupid LSC teacher.

See, there was this one time we were playing a game, okay? Well, anyway it got out of hand and she came in and got really pissed at us. She was yelling and everything, telling us she would teach us like the school kids were acting.

Well, me and this girl, who had down syndrome, we both eventually went to the table and we were so upset we cried, she tried to but really didn't. I did cry and she freaking yelled at me to the point where I just exploded with tears I mean god...I was melting down.

Also, there was another time when I got pissed at the teachers and aids. I was mad because at first, they knew I had shoulder problems and I was under doctor's care. Anyway, they made me do all this extra work I wasn't supposed to.

I got mad and then they forced me to read when I didnt want to. They put me in this timeout and then I started to cry because they were putting me down, saying I was being punished and I felt like terrible crap.

I go into the room with the best aide, named Jay and I told him what happened, Bonnie, the *****, comes in and tells him not to baby me and whatever and I just flat out cried right there.

I usually have outbursts when i get pushed over my limits. Something they always did. See, I have the reading and spelling level of a college student but I can't read out loud. I think because I suck at public speaking and having to read in front of people makes me stutter and stuff.

So I didn't want to read and they punished me for it. Man, was my mom pissed. She KNEW I hated that class.

She even got as far as calling TWO principals to talk to the teacher. The teacher did not like it at all.

I am a very emotional person if pushed over the edge. You do not want to get my upset because you'll get on my bad side and it lets me feel like I can't trust you.

All my life, i've been mistreated, kicked and pushed around. Everyone had always considered me a total troublemaker, a retard. It tore me to shreds. I was teased ever since kindergarten but that made me stronger.

Things like punishment and yelling make me cry and sometimes too much yelling makes me meltdown to shreds.

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR0gpraSscQ) song pretty much explains my life. In and out. I consider it as my life song because people just don't understand me and they wonder why I can't show any trust or interaction.

THIRTY-SIX
January 27th, 2009, 11:25 PM
Still haven't gotten around to reading everyone's posts, I'll get to them eventually.

Just have to say that song also partly describes me as well, though songs nowadays go for a large scale generalisation. I mean there are a lot of people with the same fears and junk to deal with. It's how you deal with it that makes us unique.
As you can see I open up even less than most others that have posted here. .o.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 27th, 2009, 11:51 PM
Wow...XD So many replies i have to make up for! :P

I'm reading a book at the moment called curious incident of the dog or something like that, it's about a boy with autism, well that book really puts things into another perspective.

I've read that! ^^ It's a very good book.

I used to have these sort of "breakdowns". where i just couldn't deal with anything once somebody had set me off. My new councillor at the time helped me around it though, i was extremely sensitive..Even more so to things out of my comfort zone.

Overall, it's great to see this thread pick up like this ^__^

The Exorcist
January 28th, 2009, 01:22 AM
I made this thread earlier...

Anyway, I have a mild cause of Asperger's Syndrome, I'm not as affected as heavily autistic people, back in Primary school I had someone that had a VERY strong cause of Autism, he acts very weird childish and has trouble speaking properly, but is very intelligent, I know he is, I can just sense it, like everyone else with Autism, I respect those people a lot.

Amaruuk
January 28th, 2009, 04:33 AM
I am a very emotional person if pushed over the edge. You do not want to get my upset because you'll get on my bad side and it lets me feel like I can't trust you.

...

Things like punishment and yelling make me cry and sometimes too much yelling makes me meltdown to shreds.
This is exactly how I am to a T. Luckily there haven't been too many incidents since I moved off to college over a year ago. I don't recall anyone here ever intentionally pushing my buttons, though there was one crazy ageist chick I roomed with in student housing. She was 25 but acted like she was too old for everything and showed no respect to those even a year or two younger. She acted like she had been through everything someone younger would have been through already, and acted like she knew about people better than I did despite how antisocial she was. I could rant about her forever, but I have to go to school now XD

Soul Eater
January 28th, 2009, 08:37 AM
This is exactly how I am to a T. Luckily there haven't been too many incidents since I moved off to college over a year ago. I don't recall anyone here ever intentionally pushing my buttons, though there was one crazy ageist chick I roomed with in student housing. She was 25 but acted like she was too old for everything and showed no respect to those even a year or two younger. She acted like she had been through everything someone younger would have been through already, and acted like she knew about people better than I did despite how antisocial she was. I could rant about her forever, but I have to go to school now XD

Maybe you and I should be twins? :'D

I had a friend, his name was Kendall and he was very severe. He couldn't speak well but he was VERY smart. His favorite thing was the internet. I mean this boy could type perfectly on a keyboard, google for games and everything.

He was very cute. <3

h POKE
January 28th, 2009, 08:58 AM
I tend to respect those with mental disabilities, because it can often be very frustrating and horrible to not be in control of your words or your actions.

What I can't stand, however, is when people shout "retard!". It makes me think that anyone with that small a grasp of what it means to be disabled just shouldn't speak. It's rude, and I think it's disrespectful to people who actually suffer from mental retardation...

Soul Eater
January 28th, 2009, 09:04 AM
I tend to respect those with mental disabilities, because it can often be very frustrating and horrible to not be in control of your words or your actions.

What I can't stand, however, is when people shout "retard!". It makes me think that anyone with that small a grasp of what it means to be disabled just shouldn't speak. It's rude, and I think it's disrespectful to people who actually suffer from mental retardation...

I've never been called a retard. I've just felt like that's what everyone had treated me as. DX

It is hard having people whou really can't grasp the fact of someone with a disability. I know some people that consider Autistic children to be brats. >_>

I'm a brat but I'm not an autistic brat. My dad only spoils me because he wants me to have the things he didnt have when he was growing up. D:

Not being able to understand your actions is different from acting like a brat all the time.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 28th, 2009, 09:28 AM
I've never been called a retard. I've just felt like that's what everyone had treated me as. DX

It is hard having people whou really can't grasp the fact of someone with a disability. I know some people that consider Autistic children to be brats. >_>

I'm a brat but I'm not an autistic brat. My dad only spoils me because he wants me to have the things he didnt have when he was growing up. D:

Not being able to understand your actions is different from acting like a brat all the time.

Considering Autistic people to be brats is extremely narrow minded :O

I've been called a retard by people for many years, and have been treated like i was some kind of idiot who can't think for themselves. It still happens now and again, But that's why i have begun to open up to society and act more like my own person. ^_^ I really feel for the other people here who go through the same hardships and such, and,like a lot of other people here have a great deal of respect for them and the things they go through.

Soul Eater
January 28th, 2009, 09:50 AM
Considering Autistic people to be brats is extremely narrow minded :O

I've been called a retard by people for many years, and have been treated like i was some kind of idiot who can't think for themselves. It still happens now and again, But that's why i have begun to open up to society and act more like my own person. ^_^ I really feel for the other people here who go through the same hardships and such, and,like a lot of other people here have a great deal of respect for them and the things they go through.

I like being different. I mean being normal can be overrated sometimes because you can't always fit in with other crowds. You end up fending for yourself most of the time and it's better than being put into some stereotype where you really don't belong.

I've never followed trends. I do things a child would do, not what a young adult would and that makes me really different. I mean I have kids that are under fourteen who used to play with me and make friends with me. XD Because I had a childish personality and could relate to the games they played.

Hell, I didn't stop playing with barbies and hot wheels cars until I was about eight or nine. :'D

I still collect lots of stuffed animals and plushes and even watch cartoons all the time. <3

I even carry my Inuyasha plush everywhere I go and bring him inside public places. People stare but I don't care. I have my reasons and it used to be that my mom hated me with my plush but my dad knew it was more of a comfort object so he convinced her to let me carry it and she stopped trying to tell me to leave it home.

See, when I don't have my plush with me, I start to worry more about things that might happen when he isn't with me and I even panic. When I do have him, I feel at ease and calm about things and sometimes I even talk to people I don't know, but if I didn't have him then, it would be different.

There are times when i find myself sniffing him for sensory input or like...banging the back of his head on my leg. XD Sometimes just hugging him for comfort too.

It all just keeps me really calm so I don't go into a huge panic and meltdown. XD I usually don't do any autistic odd behaviors in public, accept maybe move around or pace and sometimes when I sit, I rock back and forth because when I'm around alot of people, I get a bit nervous and sometimes being alone in the car makes me do those odd behaviors too, since I'm trying to comfort myself but usually I look around more anxiously too and I want to curl up into a ball and hide from those people. D:

Does that ever happen to you?

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 28th, 2009, 10:35 AM
I like being different. I mean being normal can be overrated sometimes because you can't always fit in with other crowds. You end up fending for yourself most of the time and it's better than being put into some stereotype where you really don't belong.

I've never followed trends. I do things a child would do, not what a young adult would and that makes me really different. I mean I have kids that are under fourteen who used to play with me and make friends with me. XD Because I had a childish personality and could relate to the games they played.

Hell, I didn't stop playing with barbies and hot wheels cars until I was about eight or nine. :'D

I still collect lots of stuffed animals and plushes and even watch cartoons all the time. <3

I even carry my Inuyasha plush everywhere I go and bring him inside public places. People stare but I don't care. I have my reasons and it used to be that my mom hated me with my plush but my dad knew it was more of a comfort object so he convinced her to let me carry it and she stopped trying to tell me to leave it home.

See, when I don't have my plush with me, I start to worry more about things that might happen when he isn't with me and I even panic. When I do have him, I feel at ease and calm about things and sometimes I even talk to people I don't know, but if I didn't have him then, it would be different.

There are times when i find myself sniffing him for sensory input or like...banging the back of his head on my leg. XD Sometimes just hugging him for comfort too.

It all just keeps me really calm so I don't go into a huge panic and meltdown. XD I usually don't do any autistic odd behaviors in public, accept maybe move around or pace and sometimes when I sit, I rock back and forth because when I'm around alot of people, I get a bit nervous and sometimes being alone in the car makes me do those odd behaviors too, since I'm trying to comfort myself but usually I look around more anxiously too and I want to curl up into a ball and hide from those people. D:

Does that ever happen to you?

I used to that kind of thing loads ^__^ Like tap my feet off of the floor constantly, and i make lots and lots of hand movement in conversation. I sometimes still show this, But i've tried very hard over years to overcome that kind of thing with my councillor. She wanted me to be more confident with the people around me, and i am a lot more than i used to be, But sometimes i resort to the me that not many people can understand.

Soul Eater
January 28th, 2009, 10:39 AM
I used to that kind of thing loads ^__^ Like tap my feet off of the floor constantly, and i make lots and lots of hand movement in conversation. I sometimes still show this, But i've tried very hard over years to overcome that kind of thing with my councillor. She wanted me to be more confident with the people around me, and i am a lot more than i used to be, But sometimes i resort to the me that not many people can understand.

Social Interaction was always hard for me. I prefer being alone and sometimes I just don't like being touched or having lots of sound around me.

Lately, I've been bugged by sound. DX I resort to covering my ears and blocking it out because its becoming more and more overwhelming in public.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 28th, 2009, 10:48 AM
Lol i've said this earlier in the thread aswell...I used to have a problem like that, but only with really loud noises etc. And it was years ago, doesn't bother me much anymore

Game Over1375
January 28th, 2009, 11:00 AM
I like being different. I mean being normal can be overrated sometimes because you can't always fit in with other crowds. You end up fending for yourself most of the time and it's better than being put into some stereotype where you really don't belong.

I agree. As someone who has Asperger's Syndrome, it feels awesome to be different.

Amaruuk
January 28th, 2009, 11:36 AM
I like being different. I mean being normal can be overrated sometimes because you can't always fit in with other crowds. You end up fending for yourself most of the time and it's better than being put into some stereotype where you really don't belong.

I've never followed trends. I do things a child would do, not what a young adult would and that makes me really different. I mean I have kids that are under fourteen who used to play with me and make friends with me. XD Because I had a childish personality and could relate to the games they played.

Hell, I didn't stop playing with barbies and hot wheels cars until I was about eight or nine. :'D

I still collect lots of stuffed animals and plushes and even watch cartoons all the time. <3

I even carry my Inuyasha plush everywhere I go and bring him inside public places. People stare but I don't care. I have my reasons and it used to be that my mom hated me with my plush but my dad knew it was more of a comfort object so he convinced her to let me carry it and she stopped trying to tell me to leave it home.

See, when I don't have my plush with me, I start to worry more about things that might happen when he isn't with me and I even panic. When I do have him, I feel at ease and calm about things and sometimes I even talk to people I don't know, but if I didn't have him then, it would be different.

There are times when i find myself sniffing him for sensory input or like...banging the back of his head on my leg. XD Sometimes just hugging him for comfort too.

It all just keeps me really calm so I don't go into a huge panic and meltdown. XD I usually don't do any autistic odd behaviors in public, accept maybe move around or pace and sometimes when I sit, I rock back and forth because when I'm around alot of people, I get a bit nervous and sometimes being alone in the car makes me do those odd behaviors too, since I'm trying to comfort myself but usually I look around more anxiously too and I want to curl up into a ball and hide from those people. D:

Does that ever happen to you?
One day last week, the lake thing behind my apartment building was frozen over, and I, a grown woman, was playing with sticks and rocks and sliding them across the ice, right by the gate where people come in or leave. I didn't care what they thought. It was fun! I have a tendency to enjoy things in a much more child-like manner, like driving to the store or finding someplace new is a "mission" or "adventure" to me. Needless to say, I have lots of adventures. With this frame of mind, everything's exciting!

I've had lots of comfort objects over the years. Most of the time a comfort object will relate to my current interests or obsessions. I'm a very fickle person, so of course there have been a lot of them over 20 years. I don't get quite as attached to them as I used to, and I no longer feel the need to have them in public, but it wasn't all that long ago when I used to. One of the ones I had in 10th grade or so was a Vegeta action figure. I brought it to school daily. Naturally, the kids all thought I was just some obsessed freak.

When I was growing up, and even now to a much lesser degree, I couldn't get enough stuffed animals. Every vacation, every trip to the mall, the school fair, etc. I would usually come home with at least one. Almost all of them are at mom's or dad's house, along with the overwhelming majority of my other treasures. I hope to get all of that stuff down here to my place soon. I worry about it all way too much.

Also, about sound, life as a college student is basically putting up with noise no matter where you are. With all the noise floating around, I just can't seem to understand why I'm the only one that's so bothered by it. Everyone else either makes the noise, or can ignore it. I can't. Why doesn't anyone understand? They just expect me to ignore it, too. I don't think it's fair to have that much noise in what's supposed to be a learning environment and be scoffed at 'cause I'm the only one who wants peace and quiet. I will never understand young adults. Cranky old people aren't the only ones who want noisy youngsters to turn their damn music down.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 28th, 2009, 11:45 AM
One day last week, the lake thing behind my apartment building was frozen over, and I, a grown woman, was playing with sticks and rocks and sliding them across the ice, right by the gate where people come in or leave. I didn't care what they thought. It was fun! I have a tendency to enjoy things in a much more child-like manner, like driving to the store or finding someplace new is a "mission" or "adventure" to me. Needless to say, I have lots of adventures. With this frame of mind, everything's exciting!


I can relate to this! When i was younger i used to do this kind of thing all the time, setting my own objectives, to do simple things etc. It's one of the reasons i got bullied.

I'll be going to college very soon, as i am about to leave school. I will have learning support there, but i will only get it when i want it. I've requested for this and they seem to be very understanding. ^_^

Soul Eater
January 28th, 2009, 12:05 PM
I probably won't go to college. DX It's just because I had a hard enough time just getting through high school and not getting the help I needed. Plus, I just feel like even if I did try to get into college, I'd forget what I learned.

So for now, I'm enjoying the permament vacation of no school because I do feel free and not as stressed as I was in school.

See, my parents ALWAYS had a hard time getting me to go. There was always something that seemed to make me feel overwhelmed and comfortable. I mean I loved hanging out with friends but it was probably all the work.

Doing homework was always hard for me and hard on my parents just getting me to do it. D: I was glad to get out of school because now, I don't have to worry about any homework overloads and stressing over writing something I just can't seem to write.

s0nido
January 28th, 2009, 12:30 PM
I myself am not disabled in any way (at least that's what my parents tell me), but I do know that my baby cousin has autism. My uncle is schizophrenic. My cousin has major trouble learning to speak, and I don't think he's able to speak well now (he's six or seven). My uncle isn't terribly schizophrenic. He's very gentle and kind, but he has those conversations with himself and has hallucinations.

It must be tough living with a disability, as mental illness is not fully understood by others. People who have mental illnesses tend to be outcast, and it was only recently that people are beginning to understand mental illnesses on some scale. Though it still is a vague topic, as you can't actually see anything wrong.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 28th, 2009, 12:32 PM
I probably won't go to college. DX It's just because I had a hard enough time just getting through high school and not getting the help I needed. Plus, I just feel like even if I did try to get into college, I'd forget what I learned.

So for now, I'm enjoying the permament vacation of no school because I do feel free and not as stressed as I was in school.

See, my parents ALWAYS had a hard time getting me to go. There was always something that seemed to make me feel overwhelmed and comfortable. I mean I loved hanging out with friends but it was probably all the work.

Doing homework was always hard for me and hard on my parents just getting me to do it. D: I was glad to get out of school because now, I don't have to worry about any homework overloads and stressing over writing something I just can't seem to write.

The only IRL freind i know with aspergers doesn't go to any school, just like you..He dropped out of school because he had a nervous breakdown there :( I've known him all my life, almost literally. He had all the more reason to stay from school when his dad died :( But i support him in what he does with himself. But i found going to see him and hearing about all this was such a great responsibility on me. I felt like i had his world on my shoulders, it's one of the reasons i became clinically depressed.

I also find homework to be torturous. I refuse to do it at home, i MUST do it at school, or i won't. :S I got into a lot of trouble like that XD

And i do feel guilty for stuff i shouldn't feel so guilty about..Like today, we were working in this group together, and two of my team members started arguing. One of them ended up punching the other and beating him up, and i wanted to stop it, y'know? but i just kinda..stood there, frozen, in between. Now i wish i had pulled the guy off of the "victim" shall we say. I had to write an account of what happened today, among 3 other witnesses.

Man, that felt great to vent out

Soul Eater
January 28th, 2009, 04:20 PM
I myself am not disabled in any way (at least that's what my parents tell me), but I do know that my baby cousin has autism. My uncle is schizophrenic. My cousin has major trouble learning to speak, and I don't think he's able to speak well now (he's six or seven). My uncle isn't terribly schizophrenic. He's very gentle and kind, but he has those conversations with himself and has hallucinations.

It must be tough living with a disability, as mental illness is not fully understood by others. People who have mental illnesses tend to be outcast, and it was only recently that people are beginning to understand mental illnesses on some scale. Though it still is a vague topic, as you can't actually see anything wrong.

It can be tough. I've had alot of trouble having people understanding me. I've learned to cope better and I'm no longer afraid to hide. I don't care what people think and I'd rather show my disability rather than act like I live in some shell.

As you get older, you learn to cope with having a disability. It's normal to feel overwhelmed at some point but I don't get overly paranoid.

I do want to note that I have huge sensory overload to perfume or cologne, like if you wear alot of it, you wouldnt want to be near me. I had a bad experience with it in fourth grade and almost got sick.

See, someone spilled it all over the place and it caused the whole 3rd and fourth grade classrooms to smell TERRIBLE.

Ever since then I get wicked bad headaches from it and my mom wears perfume. It smells so strong to me but to her she only sprayed a little.

I think it could be the autism. Plus, if you add the terrible bad experience, then it's so overstimulating.

I don't mind perfume like, I love this perfume called Japanese cherry blossom and I use it on my bed, pillows and plushies to make them smell fresh.

I feel like that too! Sometimes in Life Skills, when I got mad at my teachers, I always felt like I should have stood up for myself. My mom always said I was some sort of a time bomb that would go off at anytime. I have had times when I got close to wanting to slap someone but I never did.

One thing I can't stand though, is people that seem to go around saying they have a developmental disability, when really they don't have anything wrong. They use their fake disability to get attention and after the person finds out they don't have a disability, they get upset....but then when someone really DOES have a disability that could cause a lot of problems, they don't get the attention they need.

I hate that. Sometimes I use my disability to get attention, but usually when I know I feel bad about something, like when I lost a game, I always felt bad and in my life skills class, alot of kids cried when they lost. It can be hard to accept losing when you have a disability.

It doesn't mean I'm a sore loser or have bad sportsmanship, I mean I do have a disability and that kind of has that affect. D:

PkMn Trained
January 28th, 2009, 05:38 PM
I have Chronic Depression. Not sure if this countas because its tehniclly not a dissability, which is what everyones talking about, but im also Gifted.( My I.Q. is 140.)

Basily means Academic Excellence. Whats odd is Giftedness is usualy mistaken for/ Acompinied by ADHD.

Manaphy1128
January 28th, 2009, 05:54 PM
I just have a few things I'd like to add to this, really.

One would be when people do and do not blame my problems for my Asperger's Syndrome. Such as when my Mom says to me, "Your AS is showing." Another time was when this girl says to me, "You can't blame everything on your disorder"(well, really, she said "disease," that's how dumb she was). But anyway, I hadn't said anything about my disorder that day or since the first time I saw her. And then she assumes that since I have AS, I usually just blame everything on it. Um, yeah.

Also, I do see that people with disorders usually get cast off. Reasons for me are because of me talking to my Inner Voice (which many people refer to as "talking to yourself," but I assure you, it's not the same. An Inner Voice is usually another person you create inside of you or is created by your feelings, while talking to yourself is rather just talking to yourself), the whole obsession thing that comes with AS, my rapidly changing of topics, et cetera, et cetera. Mostly the Inner Voice and obsession. My Inner Voice quirk makes me look like one of those weirdos on the corner always muttering to themselves, though I'm not. With the obsession, I'm bad with conversations because I always want to talk about what I want to talk about. I won't move off the topic and become very uncomfortable when the topci switches for fear of saying something stupid. If we're talking about something I know about, I'll know all about it and it's basically impossible for me to say the wrong thing (though I can say stupid things while talking about things I like). But also with my obsession, since it's all I talk about and will randomly say things about it whenever possible (i.e. randomly referencing it during a school lesson, every song reminds me of it, etc.), therefore people will just list me off as "weirdo" and move on to the next person they need to put down. I've also gotten consistent questions after I talked about my obsession, such as "Are you gay?" "Are you bi?" and "Are you lesbian?" somehow.

My public appearance is sort of odd due to my AS. I sit with my knees up all the time, I dress in only certain types of clothes (for me, T-shirts and gym shorts), my hair has to be like Misa's (from Death Note), etc.

Also when people first hear the name they have to make fun of it (i.e. "Ass-burgers"). It never ceases to amaze me.

Soul Eater
January 28th, 2009, 06:00 PM
I just have a few things I'd like to add to this, really.

One would be when people do and do not blame my problems for my Asperger's Syndrome. Such as when my Mom says to me, "Your AS is showing." Another time was when this girl says to me, "You can't blame everything on your disorder"(well, really, she said "disease," that's how dumb she was). But anyway, I hadn't said anything about my disorder that day or since the first time I saw her. And then she assumes that since I have AS, I usually just blame everything on it. Um, yeah.

Also, I do see that people with disorders usually get cast off. Reasons for me are because of me talking to my Inner Voice (which many people refer to as "talking to yourself," but I assure you, it's not the same. An Inner Voice is usually another person you create inside of you or is created by your feelings, while talking to yourself is rather just talking to yourself), the whole obsession thing that comes with AS, my rapidly changing of topics, et cetera, et cetera. Mostly the Inner Voice and obsession. My Inner Voice quirk makes me look like one of those weirdos on the corner always muttering to themselves, though I'm not. With the obsession, I'm bad with conversations because I always want to talk about what I want to talk about. I won't move off the topic and become very uncomfortable when the topci switches for fear of saying something stupid. If we're talking about something I know about, I'll know all about it and it's basically impossible for me to say the wrong thing (though I can say stupid things while talking about things I like). But also with my obsession, since it's all I talk about and will randomly say things about it whenever possible (i.e. randomly referencing it during a school lesson, every song reminds me of it, etc.), therefore people will just list me off as "weirdo" and move on to the next person they need to put down. I've also gotten consistent questions after I talked about my obsession, such as "Are you gay?" "Are you bi?" and "Are you lesbian?" somehow.

My public appearance is sort of odd due to my AS. I sit with my knees up all the time, I dress in only certain types of clothes (for me, T-shirts and gym shorts), my hair has to be like Misa's (from Death Note), etc.

Also when people first hear the name they have to make fun of it (i.e. "Ass-burgers"). It never ceases to amaze me.

By inner voice, you mean almost like having some sort of invisible friend? I am like that too. I have alot of invisible friends I talk to and it makes me feel at ease.

Manaphy1128
January 28th, 2009, 06:02 PM
By inner voice, you mean almost like having some sort of invisible friend? I am like that too. I have alot of invisible friends I talk to and it makes me feel at ease.

Basically. Just sort of someone you make to converse with when no one else is around or will listen or, especially this, if no one cares.

Soul Eater
January 28th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Basically. Just sort of someone you make to converse with when no one else is around or will listen or, especially this, if no one cares.

Well, I've always had invisible friends and it makes things easier because even though they aren't real, I still feel like I have someone I can talk to.

Also, when you said that girl told you that you can't blame your AS on everything, I can relate. I've always had these feeling that most of my actions are based on my autism. My parents would always say that I can't blame everything on it.

It's the same thing for my fears. I have a huge HUGE fear of spiders, dentists and thunder. Plus I also have a fear of horror movie trailers and horror movies themselves and a fear of witches. (I can't watch Scooby and the witch's ghost because I get scared.) I just fear so much that I can't name, everything.

It's hard for me because I can't help being so anxious. It's just hard for me to get over these fears.

With dentists, it's so bad that if I don't have any laughing gas or novacaine, no dentist can get me to settle down. I get so fearful that I start crying and I've hated them since I was five years old.

The insurance I have doesn't cover the laughing gas and novacaine, and I was at the dentist to get my teeth checked...I started to cry because they said I couldn't get it.

Melody
January 28th, 2009, 07:19 PM
Though I have never been formally diagnosed with any of the mentioned conditions in this thread (except maybe ADHD, as a child) I do tend to have a few immature tendencies. But as I've grown I've gotten better at controlling them. I'm basically pretty calm nowadays. When I get to feeling too fidgety, I just pull out my Zune and listen to music. It helps me focus a bit.

Though, I do enjoy being myself, and I do agree, I dont get to do it enough. It's why I'm always online. At least here I can be myself without drawing too many rude remarks. It's not easy when you have to hold onto a facade really. It kinda sucks. x3

But I've always had this calm and collected outer self. At least as long as I can remember.

But on occasion I do actually do annoying things. If they complain and I'm in a bad mood I tell them to buzz off. XD

Amaruuk
January 28th, 2009, 08:22 PM
I probably won't go to college. DX It's just because I had a hard enough time just getting through high school and not getting the help I needed. Plus, I just feel like even if I did try to get into college, I'd forget what I learned.
I'll be completely honest here and say that I would never have even considered college if not for the Art Institutes. You wouldn't catch me at an actual university, except in a parallel universe in which everything is the opposite. So in essence, I empathize with your not wanting to go.

Also, I do see that people with disorders usually get cast off. Reasons for me are because of me talking to my Inner Voice (which many people refer to as "talking to yourself," but I assure you, it's not the same. An Inner Voice is usually another person you create inside of you or is created by your feelings, while talking to yourself is rather just talking to yourself), the whole obsession thing that comes with AS, my rapidly changing of topics, et cetera, et cetera. Mostly the Inner Voice and obsession. My Inner Voice quirk makes me look like one of those weirdos on the corner always muttering to themselves, though I'm not. With the obsession, I'm bad with conversations because I always want to talk about what I want to talk about. I won't move off the topic and become very uncomfortable when the topci switches for fear of saying something stupid. If we're talking about something I know about, I'll know all about it and it's basically impossible for me to say the wrong thing (though I can say stupid things while talking about things I like). But also with my obsession, since it's all I talk about and will randomly say things about it whenever possible (i.e. randomly referencing it during a school lesson, every song reminds me of it, etc.), therefore people will just list me off as "weirdo" and move on to the next person they need to put down. I've also gotten consistent questions after I talked about my obsession, such as "Are you gay?" "Are you bi?" and "Are you lesbian?" somehow.
Yet another description that fits me to a T. I couldn't have described the obsession thing better myself. Obsessions are by far my number 1 people-deterrent. They were the things I was most teased about growing up, and no matter how embarrassed I was about an obsession or how much I knew I'd be teased or asked stupid questions, I had absolutely no way to keep a lid on them. It's still one of the most prominent hindrances, though I have a bit more control (a bit).

I do have that Inner Voice thing, if only mildly. I never saw it as much of a problem, but life gets kind of lonely if the only inside jokes you have are with yourself.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 29th, 2009, 10:37 AM
Today i was in the learning support part of my school, in a "meeting" with other autistic kids (i was one of three, but now the schools starting to fill with them XD) They seem to be okay.

And yes, i tend to get VERY obsessive over things :P I go into massive phases with one thing for months, it annoys people sometimes...

Soul Eater
January 29th, 2009, 10:57 AM
Today i was in the learning support part of my school, in a "meeting" with other autistic kids (i was one of three, but now the schools starting to fill with them XD) They seem to be okay.

And yes, i tend to get VERY obsessive over things :P I go into massive phases with one thing for months, it annoys people sometimes...

I have a new theme. <3 But I didn't make it since I suck at making themes of real life people. ;_;

Anyway, you should see me. I get OVERLY obsessed with anime and it's rare for me to obsess over things in real life, but as you can see, it's one of those rare occurences that I'm actually obsessed with Alice Cullen from the Twilight Series. XD

Amaruuk
January 29th, 2009, 11:00 AM
Today i was in the learning support part of my school, in a "meeting" with other autistic kids (i was one of three, but now the schools starting to fill with them XD) They seem to be okay.

And yes, i tend to get VERY obsessive over things :P I go into massive phases with one thing for months, it annoys people sometimes...
That's about how long mine go for, though when I was much younger they could be a year or more long. As I've said, my obsessions are the number one reason people don't want to be around me, and it's ten times worse if my obsession is an actual person I know, like a crush. This is the most dire disadvantage of AS when it comes to relationships or even friendships. People can get used to the idea that I can't eat most foods, but I have driven plenty folks away with my obsessions, and what's worse is that the extent of the problem is relatively unchanged from childhood.

There is a guy in one of my classes this quarter, and after class has ended me, him, and the teacher tend to linger around and chit-chat about stuff. Though the class has met only about 7 times so far, I'm developing a crush on him against my will and against my best interest. I fear that having feelings for someone will interfere with my studies (it always has in the past), because I'm the type of person who can't balance her heart and her mind. My parents have never been any help with these sorts of problems, so I've always had to deal with them almost completely alone. I don't even know if the guy is single or not, and even if he was, I don't need to be in a relationship with anyone at all. What a mess... >.<;;

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 29th, 2009, 11:11 AM
That's about how long mine go for, though when I was much younger they could be a year or more long. As I've said, my obsessions are the number one reason people don't want to be around me, and it's ten times worse if my obsession is an actual person I know, like a crush. This is the most dire disadvantage of AS when it comes to relationships or even friendships. People can get used to the idea that I can't eat most foods, but I have driven plenty folks away with my obsessions, and what's worse is that the extent of the problem is relatively unchanged from childhood.

There is a guy in one of my classes this quarter, and after class has ended me, him, and the teacher tend to linger around and chit-chat about stuff. Though the class has met only about 7 times so far, I'm developing a crush on him against my will and against my best interest. I fear that having feelings for someone will interfere with my studies (it always has in the past), because I'm the type of person who can't balance her heart and her mind. My parents have never been any help with these sorts of problems, so I've always had to deal with them almost completely alone. I don't even know if the guy is single or not, and even if he was, I don't need to be in a relationship with anyone at all. What a mess... >.<;;


Oh boy, can i indenitfy XD

My last "crush" was kind of like this. (was a couple of years ago)

We were in a few classes together, and you know, when you're about.. 12 and you have obsessive tendencies, things tend to get..well, obsessive. needless to say, This ended with her hating me (We did make up) But I've never been the same after it, and took me a year to get over it. Thankfully i did, and i don't really obsess with people anymore! Or at least crushes and people you're willing to go into a relationship with. XD I find, that with autism, if you try, you CAN override some of your symptoms. It is truly a test of time, and is probably why me, among others have less noticeable symptoms now.

And i can relate to holding off relationships, too. Whenever i'm in a situation that's similar, i try to make myself levelheaded. Don't let my emotions decide which action i should take. ^__^ Maybe you'll work something out that's best for you, Kinarii ^^

My obsessions tend to be hobbies nowadays, thankfully

By the way, i made a social group called "A.S.D". If you yourself have an A.S disorder, or a family member does, feel free to join :)

Soul Eater
January 29th, 2009, 11:37 AM
I have a total hatred for Meatloaf. The very thought of it, makes me gag. My mom can never get me to eat it.

Sweet, I'll definitely consider joining. :3 It'll make things easier so we can create our own topics. ^///^

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 29th, 2009, 12:08 PM
Okay :) I began the first discussion on the group, which you'll find on the clubs part of my/Misayu's profile. Read the post, know the rules, run wild. ^_^

Lol i personally like a lot of foods, but i am extremely picky with things like olives and mayonaisse, which i can only eat under certain conditions.

Reck
January 29th, 2009, 12:41 PM
I once knew someone who was mentally ill. I used to make fun of him in 7th grade... But... I now wish i had never picked on him... There is someone in my class now who has a mental disabled and I'm doing all i can to be nice to him and keep others from picking on him... As for those of you out there(i know your out there) who pick on people like this... shame on you. What would you do i the tables were turned?

Neety
January 29th, 2009, 12:51 PM
Hi, I'm new (to the forum in general) and I love that someone has started a topic for AS/ASD. I have Asperger's Syndrome. I was diagnosed at 13 (I'm now 19) and even though I was lucky to have a load of help and support, I still struggle with stuff.

I have all the obsessive qualities (I did a similar thing to NoBel ToKYo, except that I had a female friend and I was too possessive over her; she got freaked out and tried to ditch me in the meanest ways possible and I wouldn't let go.) My boyfriend is an amazing person because he has to put up with the brunt of it (I am very childish sometimes; I have little squeaky voices, I like to be fussed over, if he upsets me I don't tell him because I expect him to know what he did to the letter, and then I refuse to talk to him when he doesn't know. Then I get upset because I know I'm being mean but I can't help it because I feel it's...kind of...justified...) and although my family are supportive, they sometimes get frustrated when I can't understand instructions and such. I think it came from my Dad's side of the family too, so my Dad and I clash quite a bit over things like that.

@NoBel ToKYo: I have the same thing with mayonnaise. If it's in sandwiches I can't eat the sandwich. If you asked me to eat a spoonful of it I'd be sick...yet I can eat tuna mayonnaise. In jacket potatoes, baguettes etc. Just tuna.

Ooops, sorry for length...I'd love to join your group though (if I can find it!) and Misayu, I looove your layout, even though I'm sorry, I don't know who Alice Cullen is!

Soul Eater
January 29th, 2009, 01:44 PM
Hi, I'm new (to the forum in general) and I love that someone has started a topic for AS/ASD. I have Asperger's Syndrome. I was diagnosed at 13 (I'm now 19) and even though I was lucky to have a load of help and support, I still struggle with stuff.

I have all the obsessive qualities (I did a similar thing to NoBel ToKYo, except that I had a female friend and I was too possessive over her; she got freaked out and tried to ditch me in the meanest ways possible and I wouldn't let go.) My boyfriend is an amazing person because he has to put up with the brunt of it (I am very childish sometimes; I have little squeaky voices, I like to be fussed over, if he upsets me I don't tell him because I expect him to know what he did to the letter, and then I refuse to talk to him when he doesn't know. Then I get upset because I know I'm being mean but I can't help it because I feel it's...kind of...justified...) and although my family are supportive, they sometimes get frustrated when I can't understand instructions and such. I think it came from my Dad's side of the family too, so my Dad and I clash quite a bit over things like that.

@NoBel ToKYo: I have the same thing with mayonnaise. If it's in sandwiches I can't eat the sandwich. If you asked me to eat a spoonful of it I'd be sick...yet I can eat tuna mayonnaise. In jacket potatoes, baguettes etc. Just tuna.

Ooops, sorry for length...I'd love to join your group though (if I can find it!) and Misayu, I looove your layout, even though I'm sorry, I don't know who Alice Cullen is!

Alice Cullen is from the Twilight Series you always hear about. D:

My boyfriend is the same way! He is very understanding and tries his best to be very patient with me. He's very supportive and knows that sometimes I can be a little weird. I love him for loving me for being me and not someone I would never be and that's what makes him special. :3

I love Tuna but another thing I hate is onions and my mom sometimes places onions on the tuna and I hate it. I mean i can eat this fun-yuns but anything with onions I will turn away from and I also hate pickles and tomatoes.

I used to hate spinach but my mom pulled that whole, "Eat your spinach so you can be like Popeye!" and lol, it actually worked. Now I LOVE spinach. XD

I used to hate peas but once I mixed them into my potatoes, I actually took a liking to them.

Um...let's see, what else do I hate? Oh! Tapioca pudding...ugh. It's disgusting and I also hate nuts but I can eat peanuts and cashews. Any other type of not and I get really bad headaches.

Same for root beer. I like it but I don't drink it as much because I get bad headaches from it for some reason.

PkMn Trained
January 29th, 2009, 02:52 PM
I have quite a few OCD Qualities myself. My clock has to boeon a number divisible by five or I won't get out of bed. I HAVE to shower EVERY MORNING for atleast 30 minutes or Im Fidgety for the rest of the day. I love talking to animals, I cant stop myself! Somepeople ask if I'm Crazy. Its fun, being different. I also have problems controlling my emotions, but I atribute that to my Physcic Tendencies. But its getting better, Im starting to learn Medatation.

Soul Eater
January 29th, 2009, 03:03 PM
I have quite a few OCD Qualities myself. My clock has to boeon a number divisible by five or I won't get out of bed. I HAVE to shower EVERY MORNING for atleast 30 minutes or Im Fidgety for the rest of the day. I love talking to animals, I cant stop myself! Somepeople ask if I'm Crazy. Its fun, being different. I also have problems controlling my emotions, but I atribute that to my Physcic Tendencies. But its getting better, Im starting to learn Medatation.

There's nothing wrong with talking to animals. I talk to my dog all the time. :B

I have problems with controlling my emotions too and I also believe to have this psychic medium ability where I can feel the presence of a spirit. It might sound crazy but its not and I really do have the power.

I think in some way, Autistic people can have psychic abilities. The reason for this is actually because autistic people have a higher sensitivity rate than non-autistic people do.

It makes up for their unusually high sensitivity to their senses. I'm not saying all autistics have it but some probably can because of their high sensitivity to sensory input.

Anyway, I know I hold a couple traits of OCD but they are mild and unoticetable. Normally, I have this thing where if I'm eating a cookie and I took something dirty, it's like I can't eat with that hand, I have to eat with my other hand.

I also get a bit picky about my anime stuff. I like it to be there when I leave my room and come back but sometimes it doesn't really matter, though sometimes you can find my constantly moving it from one place to another. XD

Neety
January 29th, 2009, 03:59 PM
(I really need to read Twilight!! Thanks for the enlightenment <3)

I was the same with spinach and peas, used to hate it with a passion as a kid but now I love spinach. Pea-hating stopped when I was given them frozen as a snack by a vegetarian friend's mum. Also, at dinnertimes, I didn't like anyone touching or turning my plate (it had to be in the exact same position it was when mum put it down on the table) and I couldn't mix my foods. I had to eat one thing at a time, then move onto the next item of food. Now I'm a lot better.

Boyfriends are great Misayu, you sound like you're a lucky girl just like me! My boyf's mum had experience working with AS kids so he knew a bit about it, I think he puts up with it because he knows I love him so much.

Amaruuk
January 29th, 2009, 04:05 PM
Oh. My. Gosh.

Nobel, I am so honored to be quoted in the group description! :.D (I joined, btw, obviously)


Back on topic...

I can't eat any sort of sandwich unless it only has meats on it (with the exception of McDonald's cheeseburgers w/ ketchup only). BBQ sauce is the only other thing I'll have on a sandwich. Also, there are only 4 beverages that I'll drink: water, fat free milk, Sprite, and Mountain Dew. I used to also drink 7up before they changed the taste. I have to say water is the one I drink least, because I don't really like the taste of a lot of water. It's often stale tasting, especially bottled water. Drinking fountain water is good, though. I consider the milk to be more of the life-sustaining drink than any of the others. I'll go through a gallon by myself in a few days' time. Mountain Dew is my coffee, and I actually like coffee, too, though it's gotta just be plain coffee with a ton of sugar to mask the coffee-ish bitterness. It's tedious so I don't drink it much. Sprite is just a nice drink, especially if I'm at a restaurant that serves Coca-cola products rather than Pepsi.

Also, I talk to my cat all the time. I don't intend to have kids ever, so he's like my son. Pity he doesn't actually understand what I'm saying, though. XD

I take unusually long showers, too. Not as long as I used to (they used to be 30+ minutes), but long nonetheless. Although I think my showers are long because I get distracted by thoughts and lose focus on actually taking the shower. XD

If there was any one word to describe me, it would be "thinker"

Soul Eater
January 29th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Oh. My. Gosh.

Nobel, I am so honored to be quoted in the group description! :.D (I joined, btw, obviously)


Back on topic...

I can't eat any sort of sandwich unless it only has meats on it (with the exception of McDonald's cheeseburgers w/ ketchup only). BBQ sauce is the only other thing I'll have on a sandwich. Also, there are only 4 beverages that I'll drink: water, fat free milk, Sprite, and Mountain Dew. I used to also drink 7up before they changed the taste. I have to say water is the one I drink least, because I don't really like the taste of a lot of water. It's often stale tasting, especially bottled water. Drinking fountain water is good, though. I consider the milk to be more of the life-sustaining drink than any of the others. I'll go through a gallon by myself in a few days' time. Mountain Dew is my coffee, and I actually like coffee, too, though it's gotta just be plain coffee with a ton of sugar to mask the coffee-ish bitterness. It's tedious so I don't drink it much. Sprite is just a nice drink, especially if I'm at a restaurant that serves Coca-cola products rather than Pepsi.

Also, I talk to my cat all the time. I don't intend to have kids ever, so he's like my son. Pity he doesn't actually understand what I'm saying, though. XD

I take unusually long showers, too. Not as long as I used to (they used to be 30+ minutes), but long nonetheless. Although I think my showers are long because I get distracted by thoughts and lose focus on actually taking the shower. XD

If there was any one word to describe me, it would be "thinker"


OMFG I CAN ONLY HAVE KETCHUP ON MY CHEESEBURGERS TOO.

I'm also a coke person as well. I usually only like coke products.

lol, I made friends with trains. :'D It's true, I really did but it's weird to other people that wouldn't understand but I would seriously start talking to objects. I never really let it out because some people would think its so weird.

Manaphy1128
January 29th, 2009, 05:00 PM
I can't have condiments on any of my food (basically that means ketchup, mayonnaise, mustard, etc.). I can't eat cereal with milk, and I have to eat cereal with my hands. Actually, I basically eat everything with my fingers. Except when my Mom tells me otherwise or when my sister gives me disgusted looks.

As for talking to things, I talk mostly to my dog and my books. Other things on occasion, but mostly just those two. Oh, and I used to talk to my two rats (Mac and Cheese) until they died.

Something else I want to bring up (and it might just be me), but how "brutally honest" I am -basically I "speak without thinking," though a better view on this is that I talk without any care for other's feelings. Such as today, in Career Investigation we had this project called a "Me bag," where you fill a bag with ten things that represent you. Anyway, whenever I say something dumb or the like, I'd comment about it openly, not caring who heard it. Such as I'd do that slapping of the hand thing (when you hear something dumb and drop your arm on the table), and I'd be like "Yah," sarcastically when someone said something. And later when I rolled my eyes when someone was singing and I told them that "When people who can't sing decide to sing, I don't like it. Could you refrain from doing that?" Just stuff like that, that's just the most recent example.

Soul Eater
January 29th, 2009, 05:14 PM
I can't have condiments on any of my food (basically that means ketchup, mayonnaise, mustard, etc.). I can't eat cereal with milk, and I have to eat cereal with my hands. Actually, I basically eat everything with my fingers. Except when my Mom tells me otherwise or when my sister gives me disgusted looks.

As for talking to things, I talk mostly to my dog and my books. Other things on occasion, but mostly just those two. Oh, and I used to talk to my two rats (Mac and Cheese) until they died.

Something else I want to bring up (and it might just be me), but how "brutally honest" I am -basically I "speak without thinking," though a better view on this is that I talk without any care for other's feelings. Such as today, in Career Investigation we had this project called a "Me bag," where you fill a bag with ten things that represent you. Anyway, whenever I say something dumb or the like, I'd comment about it openly, not caring who heard it. Such as I'd do that slapping of the hand thing (when you hear something dumb and drop your arm on the table), and I'd be like "Yah," sarcastically when someone said something. And later when I rolled my eyes when someone was singing and I told them that "When people who can't sing decide to sing, I don't like it. Could you refrain from doing that?" Just stuff like that, that's just the most recent example.

That's an autistic trait, alright. I am like that too and I tend to say things without actually thinking but I really don't have that many examples, unfortunately.

It can be hard when alot of people fail to understand you. When you do things without knowing what the consequences are, it can make it hard for you to even explain because then their like, "You don't have autism, you're just making excuses". As I've said in an earlier post, Autism is a very complicated disorder and what it needs more is awarness. It doesn't need a cure and people only say that because they just think its such a bad thing and it really isn't.

Chibi-chan
January 29th, 2009, 05:22 PM
Hey you guys, this isn't 'my favorite foods' discussion. This is an Autisum/Aspergers discussion. Let's keep it like this ok?

Soul Eater
January 29th, 2009, 05:59 PM
Okay well...um, let's see...

I'll spill about an experience I had in life skills because it resulted in a meltdown and was one of those times when I was pushed way too far.

Anyway, every friday we get a chance to go out into the community and for lunch we went to Subway, when we came out we experienced this car crash and we all were pretty scared and shaken up by it.

Well, Sue, the teacher let the two down syndrome kids go, my friend Melissa, Farnaz and Nina go...BUT she didn't let me go.

I wanted to go because I had a really bad headache and I was suffering from a mild form of heat exhaustion, still shaken and whatever. I was in a total anxiety attack too but she went and overlooked it and didn't let me go with Jay.

I sat on the curb and I seriously cried and wouldn't look at her at all. I was that ticked off at her because I swear, she made me so mad.

I mean I was ready to die from this attack I had and she still refused to let my go. Her excuse was, "I didn't let her go because there wasn't anything that could be done anyway", which is all lies because there was no reason why she couldn't have let me go.

I was in a fricken panic because of all of it and...ugh.

I have never felt that terrible about something and I was just crying into a huge panic. I really couldn't stand her at all and that was actually when my doctor had diagnosed me with severe anxiety.

Like I mentioned before, I can panic when I get pushed into something and even my parents have this problem with me because when they want me to do something, clean my room, cook my own food, etc...I get into screaming fits and start crying because I panic.

I don't know why I do it but it just has so much to do with terrible anxiety issues and meltdowns.

I recently found out that in my old records my mom kept, that they had diagnosed me with mild to moderate mental retardation.

It affects my ability to do any daily living skills. I always forget how to do them, even when my mom or dad shows me a million times, they have to do it for me just because I forget to do it.

Have you ever had any meltdowns that seemed very severe? I mean maybe when you were younger or even now, if you still have them?

I mean mine are bad when I get pushed to my overall limits. I get severely emotional and cry myself into a panic.

Zeta Patchouli
January 29th, 2009, 06:11 PM
Yes, I don't get outbursts like you. I get angry and attack the nearest thing to me. Oh, and to add on to it, I forget about it for a few weeks afterwards. Imagine how hard it was for me to remember my outbursts, yeah... it was really hard.

Soul Eater
January 29th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Yes, I don't get outbursts like you. I get angry and attack the nearest thing to me. Oh, and to add on to it, I forget about it for a few weeks afterwards. Imagine how hard it was for me to remember my outbursts, yeah... it was really hard.

I don't think I've ever had any outbursts before. I just know that I am extremely emotional when I end up being pushed over my limits.

People regret having to push me and sometimes they don't because they end up acting negatively towards the behavior. I think even trying to guide the child away from a meltdown/outburst will still cause alot of panic because the child isn't going to understand you are just trying to help.

Amaruuk
January 29th, 2009, 08:39 PM
I'm also a coke person as well. I usually only like coke products
Mountain Dew is a Pepsi product. I mean I drink Sprite at places that have Coke products. 'Dew and Sprite are the only sodas I drink. Actual Coke or Pepsi is nasty. I really don't see the appeal of colas.

Hey you guys, this isn't 'my favorite foods' discussion. This is an Autisum/Aspergers discussion. Let's keep it like this ok?
Apologies if I'm stepping out of line, but food has a whole lot to do with this topic. Maybe read the posts a bit more thoroughly? A lot of autistics like myself have a hyper-sensitive palate, so food is a very on-topic discussion.

Soul Eater
January 30th, 2009, 07:51 AM
Mountain Dew is a Pepsi product. I mean I drink Sprite at places that have Coke products. 'Dew and Sprite are the only sodas I drink. Actual Coke or Pepsi is nasty. I really don't see the appeal of colas.


Apologies if I'm stepping out of line, but food has a whole lot to do with this topic. Maybe read the posts a bit more thoroughly? A lot of autistics like myself have a hyper-sensitive palate, so food is a very on-topic discussion.

Oh, I must have misread. XD

That's what I wanted to say! o_o I just didn't know how to explain it. XD But anyway, my food sensititives are a bit mild at times.

Meatloaf is my only biggest sensitivity and I also can't eat yogurt, I think it might be the texture and the weird tastes. D:

Amaruuk
January 30th, 2009, 08:56 AM
Oddly, when I was a kid I used to be able to eat/drink more things than I can now. I could eat yogurt, but it had to be an exact kind, and like the few fruits I eat, it had to be flawless. I could drink apple juice, too. I also used to eat a lot of cheese, but now I only eat Mozzarella (in the context of pizza and breadsticks), Parmesan (the only one I can eat by itself, though also on pizza/pasta), and American (only on those aforementioned ketchup-only cheeseburgers or probably grilled cheese).

I never had much of a sweet tooth; even as a kid I could do without candy and stuff, but now I'm less and less able to eat sweets, even ones I love, like cookies, cupcakes, funnel cake, and candy bars. Certain brands of chocolate are even starting to taste funny.

I hope I'm not getting worse! TT^TT

Meatloaf is one I could never eat, either, as well as lasagna or any Mexican, Asian, or other food that has odd flavors and/or mixes a lot of stuff together. I can't eat salad, either (well that's probably obvious at this point). I can only eat potatoes as fries or chips, and the fries have to be thin, crispy, and have enough flavor to mask the potato-y texture, like McDonald's fries.

I'll spill about an experience I had in life skills because it resulted in a meltdown and was one of those times when I was pushed way too far.

Anyway, every friday we get a chance to go out into the community and for lunch we went to Subway, when we came out we experienced this car crash and we all were pretty scared and shaken up by it.

Well, Sue, the teacher let the two down syndrome kids go, my friend Melissa, Farnaz and Nina go...BUT she didn't let me go.

I wanted to go because I had a really bad headache and I was suffering from a mild form of heat exhaustion, still shaken and whatever. I was in a total anxiety attack too but she went and overlooked it and didn't let me go with Jay.

I sat on the curb and I seriously cried and wouldn't look at her at all. I was that ticked off at her because I swear, she made me so mad.

I mean I was ready to die from this attack I had and she still refused to let my go. Her excuse was, "I didn't let her go because there wasn't anything that could be done anyway", which is all lies because there was no reason why she couldn't have let me go.

I was in a fricken panic because of all of it and...ugh.

I have never felt that terrible about something and I was just crying into a huge panic. I really couldn't stand her at all and that was actually when my doctor had diagnosed me with severe anxiety.

Like I mentioned before, I can panic when I get pushed into something and even my parents have this problem with me because when they want me to do something, clean my room, cook my own food, etc...I get into screaming fits and start crying because I panic.

I don't know why I do it but it just has so much to do with terrible anxiety issues and meltdowns.
Being forced to stick around after witnessing a car accident? That's ludicrous! How old were you? I've been in a couple of fender-benders of my own, but I've never actually seen a bad accident. I can't even look at that stuff on TV. I'll get really emotional and won't be able to put it out of my mind for a long time. That excellent memory that allows me to not need to study also makes it next to impossible to erase even a slightly traumatic sight from my mind. I still remember news stories from God knows how long ago about incidents of animal abuse and such like I saw them yesterday. I'll lose sleep if I can't keep my poor mind calm.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 30th, 2009, 09:44 AM
XD it looks like plenty happened while i was off! :P

That's very unfortunate, Misayu :( Her excuse to jot let you go did sound very stupid. People should be a lot more understanding towards this kind of thing.

Also, i used to be a little like that too, Kinarii. Weirdly, if a girl died in a movie i watched, i'd start crying :S I also couldn't look at anything bad on the news and such.

And of course you can join the club Neety! ^__^ It's called A.S.D, and you can find it on the clubs section of either mine, Misayu's, Kinarii's or LATIOS (lot of things in his name XD) profile. :)

Oh, and did i mention? I HATE my mum talking to me. :P Because i think she talks so much, and find it extremely annoying if she talks straight after me.

Lol sorry Chibi-Chan, ':D XD

Soul Eater
January 30th, 2009, 10:13 AM
Oddly, when I was a kid I used to be able to eat/drink more things than I can now. I could eat yogurt, but it had to be an exact kind, and like the few fruits I eat, it had to be flawless. I could drink apple juice, too. I also used to eat a lot of cheese, but now I only eat Mozzarella (in the context of pizza and breadsticks), Parmesan (the only one I can eat by itself, though also on pizza/pasta), and American (only on those aforementioned ketchup-only cheeseburgers or probably grilled cheese).

I never had much of a sweet tooth; even as a kid I could do without candy and stuff, but now I'm less and less able to eat sweets, even ones I love, like cookies, cupcakes, funnel cake, and candy bars. Certain brands of chocolate are even starting to taste funny.

I hope I'm not getting worse! TT^TT

Meatloaf is one I could never eat, either, as well as lasagna or any Mexican, Asian, or other food that has odd flavors and/or mixes a lot of stuff together. I can't eat salad, either (well that's probably obvious at this point). I can only eat potatoes as fries or chips, and the fries have to be thin, crispy, and have enough flavor to mask the potato-y texture, like McDonald's fries.


Being forced to stick around after witnessing a car accident? That's ludicrous! How old were you? I've been in a couple of fender-benders of my own, but I've never actually seen a bad accident. I can't even look at that stuff on TV. I'll get really emotional and won't be able to put it out of my mind for a long time. That excellent memory that allows me to not need to study also makes it next to impossible to erase even a slightly traumatic sight from my mind. I still remember news stories from God knows how long ago about incidents of animal abuse and such like I saw them yesterday. I'll lose sleep if I can't keep my poor mind calm.

We weren't in the accident. We just witnessed it when we came out and this huge crashing sound it made, it was like a gunshot and it jumped us all.

I was the same age I am now, about 19/20 or so.

I like chicken salad but if I do eat salad, I have to have alot of ranch dressing on it. If not, I won't eat it and for asian food, I usually just eat Chinese and that's only teriyaki chicken and noodles. I won't eat the other stuff because even though I've never tried it, I'm very picky over trying new foods, especially if I can't sample them first. I used to be really picky and my mom got mad about it.

That's the same for me. Once I experience something scary or shakes me up, I can't shake it off. It stays with me for what seems like days.

Well, if I watch a horror movie, I get wicked nightmares for days on end. It's hard for me to keep saying that it's not real because it still freaks me out and it's so hard to accept that. Alot of people are truly misunderstanding when I say that horror movies scare the hell out of me because they'll be like, "Oh well I love them so they aren't scary for me. O.o" And I just think, "Yeah, well that's just you. I'm not like you because I'm autistic."

OMG I feel the same way about my mom and it's even more annoying when I'm focusing on the TV or something on here. It's like, I just snap at her.

I think it could be alot of sensory overload with so much going on, her talking the TV going and me doing something online. D:

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 30th, 2009, 12:08 PM
We weren't in the accident. We just witnessed it when we came out and this huge crashing sound it made, it was like a gunshot and it jumped us all.

I was the same age I am now, about 19/20 or so.

I like chicken salad but if I do eat salad, I have to have alot of ranch dressing on it. If not, I won't eat it and for asian food, I usually just eat Chinese and that's only teriyaki chicken and noodles. I won't eat the other stuff because even though I've never tried it, I'm very picky over trying new foods, especially if I can't sample them first. I used to be really picky and my mom got mad about it.

That's the same for me. Once I experience something scary or shakes me up, I can't shake it off. It stays with me for what seems like days.

Well, if I watch a horror movie, I get wicked nightmares for days on end. It's hard for me to keep saying that it's not real because it still freaks me out and it's so hard to accept that. Alot of people are truly misunderstanding when I say that horror movies scare the hell out of me because they'll be like, "Oh well I love them so they aren't scary for me. O.o" And I just think, "Yeah, well that's just you. I'm not like you because I'm autistic."

OMG I feel the same way about my mom and it's even more annoying when I'm focusing on the TV or something on here. It's like, I just snap at her.

I think it could be alot of sensory overload with so much going on, her talking the TV going and me doing something online. D:

That's the result i got aswell. When my mum tries to talk to me when i'm doing something else, or some other situation like that, it just..feels like theres way too much information at once. I'm sure it's what you mean by "sensory overload" am i right?

Anyway, just so people know...If you want to join the social club, The best option would probably mention it on this thread (do NOT just use this thread for club requests; I don't want any P'ed off Chibi's or Drifloons XD) Of course, you can PM/VM me or another member that you know of, ONE of us will direct you ^_^

PkMn Trained
January 30th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Im not a medium, Im a Clarsentient.

Our neighbor has a speech porblem. It was originally thought to be Autism, but it was'nt.

What really annoys me is how people are so CRUEL. Sometimes it feels like Im shifted into and out of the conversation. One miute I'm chatting away and the next I'm listening to chat about me like I'm Not even there. This has happened to other friends of mine aswell. This partly Inspired a class progect about Hope and Love. Our class created a booklet of Inspirational messages, games ( like crosswaords), poems, and even a Catholic Prayer. Im working on creating an Internet versio. Im also desighning a Webs( Formorley freewebs) site to host an E-newsletter with messages recived from the general public. If you want a online copy of the packet, PM me.

Idiot!
January 30th, 2009, 07:42 PM
I just cannot accept spicy food. The only exception are spicy flavoured chips, and it has to be on my favourite list, or its a no. The problem is... you guessed it, my immediate and extended family members LOVE spicy food and probably think it should be heredity.

Being the odd one out sucks real bad here where no one actually heard of any disorder at all in detail. The most famous one here is Down's, and at least 70% of people I interviewed said they never heard of disorders before. Our goverment had not educate the public about mental disorders, so even those who have it will most likely not even know it. So of course those who are NTs cannot accept auties and aspies.

IMO, there is at least one good thing about those who aren't NTs. We know what it's like to be different from others and therefore don't shun those who are daring enough to fight the flow.

Amaruuk
January 30th, 2009, 10:41 PM
We weren't in the accident. We just witnessed it when we came out and this huge crashing sound it made, it was like a gunshot and it jumped us all.

I was the same age I am now, about 19/20 or so.

I like chicken salad but if I do eat salad, I have to have alot of ranch dressing on it. If not, I won't eat it and for asian food, I usually just eat Chinese and that's only teriyaki chicken and noodles. I won't eat the other stuff because even though I've never tried it, I'm very picky over trying new foods, especially if I can't sample them first. I used to be really picky and my mom got mad about it.

That's the same for me. Once I experience something scary or shakes me up, I can't shake it off. It stays with me for what seems like days.

Well, if I watch a horror movie, I get wicked nightmares for days on end. It's hard for me to keep saying that it's not real because it still freaks me out and it's so hard to accept that. Alot of people are truly misunderstanding when I say that horror movies scare the hell out of me because they'll be like, "Oh well I love them so they aren't scary for me. O.o" And I just think, "Yeah, well that's just you. I'm not like you because I'm autistic."

OMG I feel the same way about my mom and it's even more annoying when I'm focusing on the TV or something on here. It's like, I just snap at her.

I think it could be alot of sensory overload with so much going on, her talking the TV going and me doing something online. D:
Being forced to stick around after witnessing a car accident?
Didn't say you were in it. XD

Anyways, about horror movies. I actually don't get nightmares from them (I just have generic nightmares all the time regardless of what's going on in my life). My problem is that I can't keep the images or the tragic and traumatic ideas behind the movies out of my head for a very long time, and can't sleep. Lots of things actually cause me to lose sleep. I'll be as tired/worn out/sleepy as can be, but if my thoughts are still up and running for any reason, I'm lucky to sleep maybe 2 or 3 hours. It even takes that long just to fall asleep.

@ PkMn Trained: I have been shifted out of conversations myself for my entire life, even among good friends. I find that it's better for me to talk to/hang out with one person at a time, because it's so frustratingly easy to be forgotten even with just a third person. It makes me constantly doubt that anything I have to say is of any value or interest to other people.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
January 31st, 2009, 03:16 AM
I find sometimes that my freinds just..don't really take me seriously. I've started feeling more anti-social towards people, but i suppose i'd better take all the time i need and calm down. It IS school XD

Soul Eater
January 31st, 2009, 02:07 PM
Do you guys ever have sleep problems? I read somewhere that people with autism are prone to having problems with going to sleep.

I have a really bad case of insomnia. I've tried everyhting to make me sleep and the one thing I won't give up is watching a movie before I go to bed. I mean duh, Autism? I have a huge ritual when it comes to movies. If I can't watch one before I go to bed, guess what? I won't sleep.

It's hard for me to sleep when I'm away from home and traveling with my parents. I can't sleep enough when I'm forced to sleep on a hard bed because it makes me restless. I have terrible soulder problems that cause some impairment when I move them.

I wake up in the middle of the night though.

Manaphy1128
January 31st, 2009, 02:12 PM
Do you guys ever have sleep problems? I read somewhere that people with autism are prone to having problems with going to sleep.

I have a really bad case of insomnia. I've tried everyhting to make me sleep and the one thing I won't give up is watching a movie before I go to bed. I mean duh, Autism? I have a huge ritual when it comes to movies. If I can't watch one before I go to bed, guess what? I won't sleep.

It's hard for me to sleep when I'm away from home and traveling with my parents. I can't sleep enough when I'm forced to sleep on a hard bed because it makes me restless. I have terrible soulder problems that cause some impairment when I move them.

I wake up in the middle of the night though.

Yeah, it's usually two in the morning before I get to bed. I usually try music or something, but it usually doesn't work and I just have to wait until I fall asleep. Which means I usually only get five or so hours of sleep. And it's also worse for me when I'm not actually at my house, especially when no one else in my family is there (such as if I go to a friend's house, which doesn't happen that often in the first place).

Chibi-chan
January 31st, 2009, 02:16 PM
Yeah, it's usually two in the morning before I get to bed. I usually try music or something, but it usually doesn't work and I just have to wait until I fall asleep. Which means I usually only get five or so hours of sleep. And it's also worse for me when I'm not actually at my house, especially when no one else in my family is there (such as if I go to a friend's house, which doesn't happen that often in the first place).

Hey. Same deal with me. I don't think this is just something that people with Autism or Aspergers have...it's called 'I can't get to sleep' or 'I'm homesick'. It happens to everyone.

Same thing with watching horror movies, or not liking certain things on your food...do you really think that normal people don't feel the same way about these things? ~_~ I wouldn't blame common things like that on something like Aspergers. Honestly, I don't think it exists :\

Soul Eater
January 31st, 2009, 02:17 PM
I wake up off and on every night. I've tried everything but nothing does me any good. D: Sleeping pills also do nothing for me. ;;

Chibi-chan
January 31st, 2009, 02:20 PM
So do you blame that on your disease? There are plenty of people who wake up on and off every night. I'm one of them. Do you blame not being able to sleep on Aspergers?

Amaruuk
January 31st, 2009, 03:01 PM
Chibi, I understand you're a mod and all, but you really ought to be more respectful about what you say.

Yes, "normal" people have sleep problems or have certain preferences about food. Those things in themselves are not limited to people with Autism/Asperger's.

Sleep deprivation can be caused by many things and the causes aren't always the same. For people with Asperger's, it can be a result of their symptoms, like having an overactive mind. No one said regular people didn't have that problem. With food, Autistic people tend to have over-sensitive palates, causing them to taste flavors and textures much more intensely than "normal" people. This often causes them to have a gag reflex or aversion to many many more kinds of foods than the average Joe.

Saying "Honestly, I don't think it exists" or accusing people of "blaming" things on Asperger's is simply uncalled for. Aspies can experience the same problems as other people, too. If you can't say something respectful, don't say anything at all.

Chibi-chan
January 31st, 2009, 03:07 PM
I'm not going to agree with you, or sympathize with you. I'm just stating my own opinion on the matter. Totally disregard the fact that I'm a mod, it's got no backing to what I'm saying.

I have a gag reflex whenever I eat canned fruits. It makes me sick to my stomach. I have a rather vivid imagination, I don't like ketchup, and I have trouble sleeping at times. if you could find me some characteristic of Aspergers that..."normal"?...people have...that'd be nice. Otherwise, I don't believe it, and that's my opinion.

Also. Aspergers is NOT, NOT Autism. Austism is something completely different. Please don't confuse the two...

mystletainn
January 31st, 2009, 03:11 PM
Autism != Asperger's

Unfortunately, many people label Asperger's as 'high-functioning autism.' Unfortunately, this isn't the case. While they belong to the same group of disabilities, they are different from one another.

As an Education Major, I have taken several classes on disabilities and how children with this disabilities function and how to adapt classrooms/lessons to their needs. So my knowledge on the subject isn't limited.

Savage
January 31st, 2009, 03:57 PM
My brother has a mild case of autism.
Having to negotiate daily activities around him, does get a little annoying. But he is my brother, and I will not tolerate any kind of discrimination against him.

Rukario
January 31st, 2009, 04:20 PM
Ok lets get back on topic and lighten the mood a bit..

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but that opinion is just that, and no one has a right to force it on anyone else..

so lets just move on and get back to the subject at hand.

Savage
January 31st, 2009, 04:22 PM
Ok lets get back on topic and lighten the mood a bit..

Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but that opinion is just that, and no one has a right to force it on anyone else..

so lets just move on and get back to the subject at hand.

I am sorry, but how is the discussion not about Disabilities?

Rukario
January 31st, 2009, 04:25 PM
I wasn't referring to you or your post Savage.. sorry if you thought that.

Savage
January 31st, 2009, 04:27 PM
I wasn't referring to you or your post Savage.. sorry if you thought that.

Ahh, yeah kinda hard not to think that.

Netto Azure
January 31st, 2009, 04:47 PM
Oh I was wondering what this thread was for... Well I don't think I have any disabilities at the moment. But my Dad has some neurological problems after someone hit him in the head with a Pipe before my parents met. I heard from my Grandma that his attitude changed after that,...

Kylie-chan
January 31st, 2009, 04:48 PM
Hey. Same deal with me. I don't think this is just something that people with Autism or Aspergers have...it's called 'I can't get to sleep' or 'I'm homesick'. It happens to everyone.

Same thing with watching horror movies, or not liking certain things on your food...do you really think that normal people don't feel the same way about these things? ~_~ I wouldn't blame common things like that on something like Aspergers. Honestly, I don't think it exists :\

What's your basis for believing it doesn't exist? For all intents and purposes, it does exist -- it's a legitimate DSM-IV disorder, and it's just as real as autism. It's kind of offensive, to be honest, to be told that your problems are normal by someone who can't comprehend the full extent of them. A lot of Asperger's syndrome symptoms are quite normal, but the problem with Asperger's kids is that it's far more pronounced, goes on for longer due to developmental inhibition (and yes I can say that, I have it myself and was diagnosed years ago), etc. Do you have a major panic attack when you touch tags on your clothing? Do you feel like you can't breathe? My brother, also diagnosed, has massive sensory problems. The problem with Asperger's symptoms is that they overlap with a lot of other disorders (OCD and social anxiety, for example). But nonetheless it's a pervasive personality disorder and is characterised by things that 'normal' (lol) people don't often have -- severe developmental problems. Obviously it varies from person to person, but it definitely exists.

Here's the diagnostic criteria:

1. qualitative impairment in social interaction
2. restricted, repetitive and stereotyped behaviors and interests
3. significant impairment in important areas of functioning
4. no significant delay in language development
5. no significant delay in cognitive development, self-help skills or adaptive behaviors (other than social interaction)
6. criteria are not met for another specific pervasive developmental disorder or schizophrenia.

Do all those things as a combination -- remember it has to be beyond the limits of a normal kid's phase, and remember, this ISN'T a phase -- look like the characteristics of a normal kid to you? Have you ever been around kids with Asperger's? With a lot of us you can't tell immediately, but there are some that just make it so freaking obvious.

And last of all, yes, Asperger's isn't straight autism, but it's an autistic spectral disorder, so they are quite closely intertwined.

To be honest, it's also injust to imply that we can't have the same difficulties other people have, too, although I agree with you in that a lot of people tend to blame ordinary things on their disorders.

*poof*

Amachi
January 31st, 2009, 05:22 PM
6. criteria are not met for another specific pervasive developmental disorder or schizophrenia.
I know it may just seem like I'm nitpicking, but how is not meeting criteria for another disorder or condition an item of criteria for having Aspergers?

Kylie-chan
January 31st, 2009, 05:29 PM
It's not, per se -- it's a stipulation; what it means is that you have to fulfil those criteria and not meet the criteria for another disorder, because otherwise you could be diagnosed with that disorder.

XxZer0xX
January 31st, 2009, 07:31 PM
I've got a prescription for ADHD, when they haven't even tested me for it yet. I've also got manic-depression and OCD problems.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 1st, 2009, 04:08 AM
To a lot of people, autism can seem like a somewhat "futile" disorder, because it's problems can overlap with so many different things and it fits in so many different contexts. Why do you think it's such a controversial disorder? Disorder, i might add, not disease. (Here's looking at you, Chibi)It is not breaking us down, or decaying us, which would be a typical criteria for a disease.

But we DO know it is one. If we didn't, why would we have Psychoanalysts dedicated to the subject? It's known people don't know much about it;it's so varied in it's symptoms.

I don't believe people really blame things they do on autism, because i notice the symptoms i have myself. It isn't like being insane or anything, at all. Aspies are as conscious (mostly) of their symptoms as the people around them. Just remember that some of us have had the kniowledge that we have this disorder for almost our entire lives, so people should be sensitive when saying things.

There may be thin lines between the symptoms that autistic people and neurotypical people experience, they are still there. Also note that i used the word "neurotypical". It's an actual word from the dictionary that is penned by psychoanalysts for "non-autistic" people.

Once again, Chibi, i'll say something to you. Did you know that EVERYONE is on the autistic spectrum? Even you're on it. Autism or any other A.S.D can't even be clearly defined as autistic people being different from neurotypical people. It's more like a different balance of behaviour. Now Chibi i completely respect that that is your view, and i won't make you change it. I'm just giving you the response that i would give. ^_^

I hope i at least cleared even one litle thing up ( i didn't have to do much, Kylie Chan pretty much hit the nail on the head). Let's try and keep the mood light here, like Rukario said, okay? This thread is not intended to be a heated one, like you may find in other areas of other chat. Everyone is entitled to our own opinions, but we should be careful, respectful and sensitive to other peoples views. A forum is not the best place to be blunt with ones words!

EDIT: Yes, i do understand that some would blame things on autism for attention. But that wouldn't even be totally relevant to this thread. It's a gathering, a party for the aspies ^_^

PkMn Trained
February 1st, 2009, 07:42 AM
Do you guys ever have sleep problems? I read somewhere that people with autism are prone to having problems with going to sleep.

I have a really bad case of insomnia. I've tried everyhting to make me sleep and the one thing I won't give up is watching a movie before I go to bed. I mean duh, Autism? I have a huge ritual when it comes to movies. If I can't watch one before I go to bed, guess what? I won't sleep.

It's hard for me to sleep when I'm away from home and traveling with my parents. I can't sleep enough when I'm forced to sleep on a hard bed because it makes me restless. I have terrible soulder problems that cause some impairment when I move them.

I wake up in the middle of the night though.

You try Valerian root? Valeria is proven all natural sleep aid. You can take it in capsulses or tea. Both smell like dirty gym socks, though.

In case no noe noticed, I have spelling trouble.

See the noe up there? thats what happens if i dont bother to edit it bewfore i post.

I misspel alot of things, but I cant get Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the ne wrold wright! I ussually abbrivieate it as TOS:DOTNW.

Emil is soooo cut!

Chibi-chan
February 1st, 2009, 02:59 PM
@ PkMn Trained: Please, you're going to have to at least try to speak literately. And..stay on topic, okay?


Once again, Chibi, i'll say something to you. Did you know that EVERYONE is on the autistic spectrum? Even you're on it.


No. If everyone was on the autistic spectrum, autism wouldn't be a disorder. Disorders are when you have a disorder. It's not a disorder if everyone has a form of it. It's like calling people with lighter or darker skin color having a pigment disorder.


There may be thin lines between the symptoms that autistic people and neurotypical people experience, they are still there. Also note that i used the word "neurotypical". It's an actual word from the dictionary that is penned by psychoanalysts for "non-autistic" people.

You just said everyone was autistic later. :|

And I totally understand what Autism is, but like I said before, Aspergers just seems like a problem with being socially inept. And possibly a placebo from an interview I heard on NPR (National Public Radio). A woman, when she was in second grade, was very imaginative and didn't fit in with her students or like what they did. She was sent to a doctor, who told her she had Aspergers, and then she was labeled with it throughout her life. She felt like an outsider from people she now considered "normal" (and while we're on the subject of using the word "normal" in quotes, don't you think you've isolated yourself from others even further by putting the word in quotes?) and felt like she was thinking wrong, and whatever she did would not be accepted because she could not fight a disorder she had. Because of this, she quit high school because she became afraid of talking to others because she felt that she was "different" and they wouldn't accept her. She talked about how, if she had never heard that she had the disease, how she would have been willing to go up to people and make friends, how she would have had a social life, and how she wouldn't have had to be so afraid of being different. It was a really heartwretching interview, maybe she did have Aspergers, maybe she was just falsely diagnosed. Either way, the fact of someone telling her she had it made her life worse, and made her lose her self confidence because the mere idea that she would never be accepted. This is why I don't believe in Aspergers and think of it as a placebo or a way to justify solidarity.

PkMn Trained
February 1st, 2009, 03:48 PM
I think everyones a little auitstic, crazy, whatever you wanna call it. Everyone is different, and everyone is human.

You can't define a disorder based on one, one-hundred, or one-thousand cases. No matter what science says, there will always be variables. Just because one person responds well to the latest cancer treatment, does that mean everyon will? No, it means it works for that one patient, and no amount of testing, trials, changes or experiments you do will change the fact that ONE drug will NOT cure EVERYONE. Just like how ONE set of criteriea does'nt aplly To EVERYONE.

Really, you can't blame EVERY SINGLE THING thats wrong with your life on Autism, Aspergers, or any other disorder, and I don't think anyone here is. They are simply saying that particular case COULD be part of their disorder.

If the minutes on my alarm clock Are'nt Divisible by five, I CANNOT, by any intent or purpose, get out of bed. This resembles a case of Obbsesive compulsive Disorder. I am NOT OCD, I just have a little Idiosycrasie that one COULD possibly see in a case of OCD. Is this a degenarative trait? I dont think so, if anything, its more likely that the rest of my day will follow this pattern. ( It may, or may not. I find it easier to stay focused if I start at a time divisible by five, for some reason.)

Immediatly saying that anyone with Autism is an idiot, a brat, or anything is a sterotype. Its like saying people who like pokemon are idiots. I know somepople who like pokemon that are, indeed, idiots. I also know people that ADORE pokemon that are some of the smartest people I know! ( Im not saying people with autism are idiots, this is just a reference)

Just because that ONE woman became an anti-social dosnt justify ANYONE saying that Aspergers is just an excuse to BE anti-social

Tis is all just my opinion, and I won't try to change anyone elses. I am simply laying out my ideas in a civilzed manner.

(That on topic enough for ya'?) ;)

( Miyasu, Im sorry if saying that offended you, I took it out.)

Soul Eater
February 1st, 2009, 04:17 PM
Also, I didn't say I had asperger's Syndrome. I have mild to moderate Autism and I didn't start speaking until I was four years old. I had no imaginative play and I prefered playing by myself and in the rocks when I was younger. I didn't make friends very well and I was prone to meltdowns and outbursts.

As for sleep problems, I didn't mean to say it was Autism, I just said it doesn't help I can't sleep because of it. I also have anxiety and depression which can counter meltdowns for me and panic attacks. I know they are slight panic attacks but they still feel like hell for me because sometimes I feel like I can't breathe.

I'm not saying it IS Autism but I'm saying that in some cases, Autism does play apart in how I act because sometimes when I get mad, I ignore anyone and anything around me. I won't listen to anyone and I throw tantrums and I cry.

Yeah, you see kids doing this but can you see a 20 year old throwing tantrums because she didn't get her way? Sometimes I do things without realizing and I get mad because I don't know any better.

Could this be anything? Sure. Do I have Autism? Obviously. However, I never said I was blaming anything on Autism.

I also have a huge tolerance to sound. It's so bad that now, I have to wear noise-blocking headphones to keep me from panicking. Sound makes it hard for me to focus and I get distracted, I have ADHD so the disctraction part COULD be ADHD.

I just wanted to get that out.

Kylie obviously has Asperger Syndrome and so does her brother. Also, it's obvious you wouldn't see that online because you can't see how the person acts. Not even just by judging from their posts and only what they tell you.

I also have a lot mild head injuries from my childhood. It's even possible that those could also play apart in the way I do things because with all the concussions, I probably lost a bit of the things I should have had from my past. I don't remember anything of my past from before I was nine years old. Everything else either comes in bits and pieces or there is just nothing that comes to mind.

It's possible that it could have caused some minor brain damage.

I also have a hard time telling what a persons emotions are. When my mom yells at me, I automatically retalite with negative behavior because she is angry but I don;t really get her anger and it is scary for me. She yells at me and I cover my and ears and start to cry.

When my grandmother on my dad's side passed on...everyone around me cried but i didn't. It wasn't out of rudeness it was because I didn't understand. I didn't know how to react and sure I know what was happening...but I couldn't react with tears. I couldn't force myself to cry either and I just never felt the sadness everyone else had felt.

I also have random bursts of laughter and hand movements for no reason. I just start giggling frantically and bounce up and down while clap my hands or pound my wrists together. It's random and it comes from no where.

I'll admit that most people wit Autism or asperger syndrome get misdiagnosed. Chibi, when I read that post about the girl, it seemed to me like she did have social phobia. It wasn't asperger syndrome because Kylie had already made her diagnosis of Asperger syndrome clear.

But, if you don't want to believe in it, don't. I'm not telling you that you should. It just hurts us when you say it that way because some of us really might have it. Sometimes, you see people with Autism that live normal lives. Some autistic people are lucky enough to get into special therapies before they are too old.

I've learned alot from my friends. I had one friend who had asperger syndrome in real life, he was recieving medication for it and it worked for him. Other aspies recieve therapy for their sensory issues but others...usually don't get that.

Misdiagnoses is definetely not a myth. Alot of the time it can happen with autism spectrum disorders because you have one doctor that probably does't know much at all about them and makes that mistake.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 2nd, 2009, 07:55 AM
No. If everyone was on the autistic spectrum, autism wouldn't be a disorder. Disorders are when you have a disorder. It's not a disorder if everyone has a form of it. It's like calling people with lighter or darker skin color having a pigment disorder.

Actually, it really isn't. at all. And everyone IS on the autistic spectrum because it doesn't just apply to disorders per se. The spectrum represents different levels and extremeties, from which doctors can confirm a diagnosis. basically, everybody is in the spectrum, but some are at different levels than others. Just because it has the word "Autistic" in it does not mean that that is all it applies to. Plus, comparing it to skin color now? The situation at hand isn't so "Black and white" (No pun intended)



You just said everyone was autistic later. :|

Once again, i didn't say that.That would be foolish in more than just the slightest. i said everyone is on the autistic spectrum. And i've already explained that above.

I am completely fine with your view on aspergers. With the story you have said i can see perfectly why you would say so. All that i'd want to say is: We've been told, some of us likely quite recently, that we have a disorder called autism. We don't know much about it, because not many people do. Like it or not, we are connected to that term, and then you say quite bluntly that you think it doesn't exist..It's not that you said it that's bad, i think it was just the way it was said..

Still, there's no need to rant on about that. You say that not liking certain foods and sensitive palates and breakdowns etc. happen to everyone. Well, yes they do. How could i disagree? But that's why EVERYONE is on the autistic spectrum, no? It's not about just doing a certain behaviour, it's the extent and the way it is done that is analysed. And of course someone will be wrongly diagnosed; There must be one person who gets it wrong.

Also, i didn't say "neurotypical" to isolate myself. Although i see why you might've thought that, It's just a term. I try my best to fit in with other people, and act social, yet i still have been dignosed: How does that make aspergers a label for being "socially inept"?

Still, lets face it. We could probably dissect each others point forever over this subject. Whatever you believe about aspergers i will not make you change, and i am fine with it. This is my view, but all i'm saying is be a little more sensitive, okay? cause some of the things you've said can make a big impact if the right person hears it, you know?

Soul Eater
February 2nd, 2009, 08:41 AM
Actually, it really isn't. at all. And everyone IS on the autistic spectrum because it doesn't just apply to disorders per se. The spectrum represents different levels and extremeties, from which doctors can confirm a diagnosis. basically, everybody is in the spectrum, but some are at different levels than others. Just because it has the word "Autistic" in it does not mean that that is all it applies to. Plus, comparing it to skin color now? The situation at hand isn't so "Black and white" (No pun intended)





Once again, i didn't say that.That would be foolish in more than just the slightest. i said everyone is on the autistic spectrum. And i've already explained that above.

I am completely fine with your view on aspergers. With the story you have said i can see perfectly why you would say so. All that i'd want to say is: We've been told, some of us likely quite recently, that we have a disorder called autism. We don't know much about it, because not many people do. Like it or not, we are connected to that term, and then you say quite bluntly that you think it doesn't exist..It's not that you said it that's bad, i think it was just the way it was said..

Still, there's no need to rant on about that. You say that not liking certain foods and sensitive palates and breakdowns etc. happen to everyone. Well, yes they do. How could i disagree? But that's why EVERYONE is on the autistic spectrum, no? It's not about just doing a certain behaviour, it's the extent and the way it is done that is analysed. And of course someone will be wrongly diagnosed; There must be one person who gets it wrong.

Also, i didn't say "neurotypical" to isolate myself. Although i see why you might've thought that, It's just a term. I try my best to fit in with other people, and act social, yet i still have been dignosed: How does that make aspergers a label for being "socially inept"?

Still, lets face it. We could probably dissect each others point forever over this subject. Whatever you believe about aspergers i will not make you change, and i am fine with it. This is my view, but all i'm saying is be a little more sensitive, okay? cause some of the things you've said can make a big impact if the right person hears it, you know?

I kind of have to agree with Chibi. I mean there is no way everyone can be on the spectrum of Autism. Autism has to have at least 6 or more symptoms and depends on the severity.

Sleep problems come with Autism though, just like any other disorder. They can come with depression, anxiety, ADHD or hell, even naturally. Saying everyone is on the spectrum is way too much.

That's the kind of thing that makes people call us brats or fakes because there are so many people that are saying everyone is being diagnosed.

Chibi said what she had and if your saying she is just in the spectrum, I say your wrong. Chibi is just like everyone else and everyone else has certain things that can set them off. But in order for it to be SO bad that it's disabling to have to hear noise around you or probably to not be able to wear clothes with tags or seams or even doing behaviors with repition, that is Autism.

It's not leading to a spectrum, iot's leading to the severity of it.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 2nd, 2009, 09:00 AM
I kind of have to agree with Chibi. I mean there is no way everyone can be on the spectrum of Autism. Autism has to have at least 6 or more symptoms and depends on the severity.

Sleep problems come with Autism though, just like any other disorder. They can come with depression, anxiety, ADHD or hell, even naturally. Saying everyone is on the spectrum is way too much.

That's the kind of thing that makes people call us brats or fakes because there are so many people that are saying everyone is being diagnosed.

Chibi said what she had and if your saying she is just in the spectrum, I say your wrong. Chibi is just like everyone else and everyone else has certain things that can set them off. But in order for it to be SO bad that it's disabling to have to hear noise around you or probably to not be able to wear clothes with tags or seams or even doing behaviors with repition, that is Autism.

It's not leading to a spectrum, iot's leading to the severity of it.

I can understand that. ^^ I was told that everyone is on the autistic spectrum, because the symptoms of autism can also relate to people who aren't even diagnosed. And that just because everyone was on the spectrum didn't mean that everyone was autistic. When i say that though, i don't mean everyone is on the same "level" of the spectrum, because obvously, like you said, it's the severity of the behaviour, of which i very much agree. But i've always been told that on the spectrum, some people were more severe than others and "higher" up in the spectrum due to the severity of the disorder. All i can say in defense is that that was the way i was told things. Maybe that's why people use the autistic spectrum, no?

Don't think of the autistic spectrum as a way of saying "everyone has autism" because that's not the point i want to get across. The spectrum is more of a way of..well, not really "measuring" but a way to know the levels of severity that come with disorders such as autism.


At the end of the day, it's just a way-Maybe even just my way- of thinking through the subject. I don't want to offend anyone.

Soul Eater
February 2nd, 2009, 11:39 AM
I can understand that. ^^ I was told that everyone is on the autistic spectrum, because the symptoms of autism can also relate to people who aren't even diagnosed. And that just because everyone was on the spectrum didn't mean that everyone was autistic. When i say that though, i don't mean everyone is on the same "level" of the spectrum, because obvously, like you said, it's the severity of the behaviour, of which i very much agree. But i've always been told that on the spectrum, some people were more severe than others and "higher" up in the spectrum due to the severity of the disorder. All i can say in defense is that that was the way i was told things. Maybe that's why people use the autistic spectrum, no?

Don't think of the autistic spectrum as a way of saying "everyone has autism" because that's not the point i want to get across. The spectrum is more of a way of..well, not really "measuring" but a way to know the levels of severity that come with disorders such as autism.


At the end of the day, it's just a way-Maybe even just my way- of thinking through the subject. I don't want to offend anyone.

I'm still disagreeing. D: I can understand the most noted ASDs, like Asperger Syndrome and PDD-NOS. Those are ASDs. I'm not on the spectrum. I have mild to moderate autism and my counselor today, ( I saw on the first time) said that I really don't have anxiety/depression because it is more going into Autism.

I really don't believe in anyone being part of the spectrum. Like I said, that's what puts Autism into a bad position. Alot of people take that in consideration and say, oh well I'm on the spectrum. That's why we are called brats because people who are considered spectrum wise, ruin autism and make people think its not real.

I'm not saying you should't agree with me, I'm just saying that's how I see it.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 2nd, 2009, 12:27 PM
Lol once again , i'm completely fine with that Misayu ^_^ I understand where you're coming from. Mainly i've been saying stuff about the spectrum because i was brought up being told abouy it, which could seem a little whack.

I do get annoyed with people doubting that it is real, though..Maybe the spectrum thing isn't the right way to think of it? Meh. :P

It'd be great if the mood this thread has would go light again XD

Kylie-chan
February 3rd, 2009, 12:22 AM
Yeah, the autistic spectrum refers to people with any condition that falls within the spectrum; it's more like

mild -----------------------> severe

rather than

doesn't have it ----------------------> is autistic

I grew up with a mother 100% positive something was 'wrong' with me and 100% determined to get a diagnosis of 'something' (to be fair, this wasn't just projection, and it wasn't her hypochrondria -- she wanted to find out what it was so we could find out what we could do to treat it/give therapy, and to make it easier to get aid etc. at school) -- until I was thirteen or so, I visited prominent neurologists, had brain scans, child psychologists, etc. etc. you name it, I saw them about it. She read practically every book available on the subject, and later my brother was diagnosed too. So I'd like to think I'm a bit knowledgeable about the subject, having been taught about it since I was pretty little as well.

o.o I think I've gotten my point across, so I guess my brief reapparance is over. *disappear*

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 3rd, 2009, 07:49 AM
I think the majority here is disagreeing on the way i was told about the spectrum..XD I might actually ask my parents about that *shot* Ah well.

I find that my mum was far too determined to get me to "fit in" and thus i never had ANY space. from hearing peoples views it made me wonder if that's why she said the thing about everyone being in the spectrum? If so, then i'd say i'm pretty angry about it. That would be very wrong to be dissilluded like that.

Soul Eater
February 3rd, 2009, 07:05 PM
I found out I wasn't diagnosed with Autism until ten but like Kylie, my parents were SURE something wasn't right about me. They got me in testing for everything, turns out I had mild to moderate autism. It wasn't as bad as it has gotten now and I think being older and not getting the right therapy, I wasn't able to control my feelings.

I'm pretty knowledgable as well. I'll definitely admit that and I know I am way more knowledable than my mother.

See, my mom doesn't seem to understand my autism. It can be hard because she gets mad at me so easily. I end up slamming around and throwing things. It causes outbursts and terrible meltdowns for me but it's something she just can't understand.

She also doesn't get it when I tell her to get out of my room. I yell at her to get out because see, my room is like my escape. I really prefer just being alone. I can even get scared easily and not just like a child would but to the point where I end up just crying out of nowhere.

I know it's normal for a child but for me it's not right. Last night, my mom discovered I was covered in this rash (turns out something made me break into hives so I'm on benadryl and anitbiotics and I'm fine now.) Anyway, she scared me when she insisted she was worried and thinking it was serious and I started to cry.

It took a while for this to subside and then finally I was able to settle down and go to sleep.

There was also today, at the emergency room for my hives, this person who was getting information for me came in and asked me questions. Some of them I didn't know and I was getting nervous over it and filled with anger, my mom could even see it and she snapped.

It got to the point where I ended up almost crying and my mom had to rudely, almost, tell the lady to wait and explain my autism, learning disability and ADHD. She let my mom answer this time.

See, I usually don't have very good language or a very good brain to be able to answer hard questions. It can cause me lots of frustration.

I realize its getting worse because I seem to get even more overwhelmed by these things. I know today at UPS the guy who was mailing a box to my aunt, and he was placing the tape over the box to seal it. The sound was DELIBRATING like so hard on my ears I had to walk away, but still couldn't escape it.

It was like ear splitting and so painful. That's just stuff that's happened recently and I've started a personal journal to write down things.

I hope next month I can show them to my psychiatrist. I got one just yesterday so, I'll be seeing her every month and I hope this might help get me more confidence over things.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 4th, 2009, 09:24 AM
I found out I wasn't diagnosed with Autism until ten but like Kylie, my parents were SURE something wasn't right about me. They got me in testing for everything, turns out I had mild to moderate autism. It wasn't as bad as it has gotten now and I think being older and not getting the right therapy, I wasn't able to control my feelings.

I'm pretty knowledgable as well. I'll definitely admit that and I know I am way more knowledable than my mother.

See, my mom doesn't seem to understand my autism. It can be hard because she gets mad at me so easily. I end up slamming around and throwing things. It causes outbursts and terrible meltdowns for me but it's something she just can't understand.

She also doesn't get it when I tell her to get out of my room. I yell at her to get out because see, my room is like my escape. I really prefer just being alone. I can even get scared easily and not just like a child would but to the point where I end up just crying out of nowhere.

I know it's normal for a child but for me it's not right. Last night, my mom discovered I was covered in this rash (turns out something made me break into hives so I'm on benadryl and anitbiotics and I'm fine now.) Anyway, she scared me when she insisted she was worried and thinking it was serious and I started to cry.

It took a while for this to subside and then finally I was able to settle down and go to sleep.

There was also today, at the emergency room for my hives, this person who was getting information for me came in and asked me questions. Some of them I didn't know and I was getting nervous over it and filled with anger, my mom could even see it and she snapped.

It got to the point where I ended up almost crying and my mom had to rudely, almost, tell the lady to wait and explain my autism, learning disability and ADHD. She let my mom answer this time.

See, I usually don't have very good language or a very good brain to be able to answer hard questions. It can cause me lots of frustration.

I realize its getting worse because I seem to get even more overwhelmed by these things. I know today at UPS the guy who was mailing a box to my aunt, and he was placing the tape over the box to seal it. The sound was DELIBRATING like so hard on my ears I had to walk away, but still couldn't escape it.

It was like ear splitting and so painful. That's just stuff that's happened recently and I've started a personal journal to write down things.

I hope next month I can show them to my psychiatrist. I got one just yesterday so, I'll be seeing her every month and I hope this might help get me more confidence over things.

I hope it goes well ^_^ A journal is a good idea, i've never really motivated myself to get one though..XD

Neety
February 6th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Hey, best of luck; a journal is a really really helpful thing. I've got one next to my bed, that way if I'm upset about something I can transfer it into the journal and it helps me sleep. I also brainstorm and put little diagrams/lists in it.

I looove making lists. I have a whole book of lists. <.<

Soul Eater
February 6th, 2009, 06:05 PM
What do you think is your biggest challenge with Autism? Like, what really makes you feel like you could do better on one thing you are limited into doing?

For me, I have to say social interaction. I know most of the time people will be shy but for me its disabling because I can't go up to a store clerk and actually pay for my own things. It's a fear but a fear that I just can't understand.

My parents have to talk for me and sometimes even tell them I'm autistic. The only thing that sets me apart from being normal is when I interact. If I meet a new person, I just stand there or sometimes I'll fiddle with my thumbs or fidget and pace walk around, not saying a word.

It seems like a normal shy thing but it's not. It can be hard for me because when I want to say something, to explain to a person what's on my mind, I never have the words. I have very good language but I still have problems with explaining things.

When I have to talk on the phone, I started to having panic attacks and my parents can't get me to just say my dad has permission to do everything for me. It's so bad that my dad has power of attorney over me so that everytime he has to call someone for information, he can talk to them without them getting the okay from me.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 7th, 2009, 04:22 AM
I think i agree that the biggest challenge for me has been social interaction. It's been a long journey for me to get much better and i wouldn't be much better at all if it weren't for the help i recieved. ^_^

Neety
February 7th, 2009, 02:12 PM
I think the same, it's great isn't it?... I got a loooad better after Grammar school because I had extra help. The only reason I got any better was because I had to basically get taught how to interact. I picked it up, but I still occasionally offend many many people by just speaking my mind. Then I can't tell them about my Asperger's because they're so pissed at me for accidentally upsetting them...

I'm just so glad I have my boyfriend. He knows how to put up with it, whereas my parents (especially my dad) get annoyed and frustrated.

Idiot!
February 7th, 2009, 05:29 PM
The biggest challenge? Knowing the motive behind a question. If someone asks me during a marathon, "Why are your shoelaces untied?" I can answer "When I change direction, the inertia of the shoelace keeps it moving in a straight line, and by some coincidence, it is the right direction of pulling to untie it." I wouldn't know if they are teasing me or telling me to tie my shoelace. It definitely makes it difficult for people to tease me by asking "annoying" questions because I will almost always assume they meant to know the logical answer.

~ Yukishii
February 8th, 2009, 07:24 AM
I have a case of Asperger's syndrome..
I am not sure of the severity of it myself, but I have always been able to learn at an extremely fast rate. The only downside to my amount of knowledge is I have a very hard time explaining what I want to say.. whether it be typing or speaking.
My speaking is very flawed as I can't get my thoughts out in words, so I tend to remain very silent, or use sign language. Luckily a select few of my friends can read sign language so I am not forced to voice my thoughts very often. It isn't that I don't like speaking, I do.. but I tend to say the wrong choice of words sort of thrown here and there in a sentence, and it makes sense only to me. Even now I am having a difficult time explaining myself. I am very talented in the field of foreign languages. I don't have an exact number of how many I know at this moment, but a very good amount..
My most used languages are French, German, Spanish, English, and Japanese. [I use actual Japanese characters, not typing the words out. That just throws me off.]
I am very young in real life, and am usually assumed to be at the least, eighteen. I am told it is because of my maturity and knowledge 'beyond my years'..
Social gatherings, or simply going into public makes me extremely uneasy.. if I don't know someone I have an especially hard time talking. Most of the time when someone speaks to me, I hear them, but do not acknowledge. I'm actually known to ignore people, simply because I don't like people very much. I am even home schooled now because of how difficult public school was for me. Just.. too many people, and the teachers tended to call on me to answer a question out loud.. I can't tell you how many times I had mini heart attacks from my name being called.. either by a student or teacher. If I was called on from the teacher I just aimed my eyes down and remained extremely quiet. Persistent teachers really got on my nerves, but some understood my issue and left me alone. Truly I am not a shy person in the least, I just prefer to be silent then speak in knowing that I will rant about my answer, or voice my thoughts incorrectly. Better to be safe then sorry in my opinion. Honestly, I tend to label a lot of people as 'stupid'.. Yes, I do have an OCD for perfectly aligning things. I am not sure if Asperger's has much to do with anxiety, but I do have that problem as well. Hence the reason I use the computer so much, for I can channel all of my extra energy into my typing. I also have really good control over my levels of concentration.. I multi-task all the time.
Such as typing on the computer, using the phone [mainly just listening], and music in my ear all at the same time.. It isn't very difficult to me..
I am a very honest person despite my speech problems, and will let you know exactly what I think, hurtful or not.. All of my friends love jokes as well.
Whenever someone tells a joke around me I never understand it.. nor find it humorous. They just end up having to explain the joke to me, once I understand I just feel even more confused..
There I go, ranting again. I decided to tell my traits from Asperger's syndrome, though I'm sure a lot of you did not read that all the way.

PkMn Trained
February 8th, 2009, 09:16 AM
I think i agree that the biggest challenge for me has been social interaction. It's been a long journey for me to get much better and i wouldn't be much better at all if it weren't for the help i recieved. ^_^

I like to think people who have autism and other disorders like it are much more expierienced. They move past barriers that alot of people don't get to expierience.

Soul Eater
February 8th, 2009, 09:25 AM
I have a case of Asperger's syndrome..
I am not sure of the severity of it myself, but I have always been able to learn at an extremely fast rate. The only downside to my amount of knowledge is I have a very hard time explaining what I want to say.. whether it be typing or speaking.
My speaking is very flawed as I can't get my thoughts out in words, so I tend to remain very silent, or use sign language. Luckily a select few of my friends can read sign language so I am not forced to voice my thoughts very often. It isn't that I don't like speaking, I do.. but I tend to say the wrong choice of words sort of thrown here and there in a sentence, and it makes sense only to me. Even now I am having a difficult time explaining myself.

Omigawd! You took those words right out of my mind! I too have that same problem. I can't use sign language though but I usually write things down and show them to people. It's much easier for me to write down my thoughts because I find that when I have thought or something I have to explain, I usually can't find the words for it. Yet, my language is pretty fluent but it's not that of your average 20 year old. It's quite more limited than you would think because I didn't actually learn how to speak until I was four years old. I wasn't able to talk in full sentences. I think that delay still remains with me because I have a hard time being able to say what I need to say.

Yeah, I actually have alot of knowledge of my disability. I've learned more about my biggest flaws with being of ADHD, mild to moderate Autism, moderate mental retardation and even a slow learning disability. I mean when I was growing up, I didn't know what was wrong with me. My parents told me I was with many disabilities and doctors too. Though, I never knew what they meant and I never even knew that my sound and touch sensitivities were part of it.

As for social interaction, I sometimes tell my new friends that I have autism, you know to let them know about my usual shy tendencies and to have a bit of patience with me. It's hard for me to grow used to hanging around people and to open up but I learn that once I spend more time with that person, I am able to learn to trust them and be able to talk to them like any other person would. It just takes time and patience for me to realize that person just wants to be my friend.

~ Yukishii
February 8th, 2009, 12:10 PM
As for social interaction, I sometimes tell my new friends that I have autism, you know to let them know about my usual shy tendencies and to have a bit of patience with me. It's hard for me to grow used to hanging around people and to open up but I learn that once I spend more time with that person, I am able to learn to trust them and be able to talk to them like any other person would. It just takes time and patience for me to realize that person just wants to be my friend.

I realize easily if someone wishes to be my friend.. for some reason I'm found very interesting to people.
As for people with mental disabilities being beyond that of a normal human, it is possible. For every flaw there is a plus side. The greater the flaw, the greater the plus. Such as Asperger's.. the flaw? Social disability. The plus? Very intelligent.
That is how I see it anyways.

Soul Eater
February 8th, 2009, 07:55 PM
I realize easily if someone wishes to be my friend.. for some reason I'm found very interesting to people.
As for people with mental disabilities being beyond that of a normal human, it is possible. For every flaw there is a plus side. The greater the flaw, the greater the plus. Such as Asperger's.. the flaw? Social disability. The plus? Very intelligent.
That is how I see it anyways.


That is so true. o_o I am SO putting that in my signature too because that is great advice. <3

But you're right, we have our own ways of learning and we choose to learn differently because that's what is easiest for us. I'm definitely not the smartest person on the block, I'll admit it but I do have enough more sense than what people think I do...I just don't know how to use that sense.

I'm more knowledgable with different things, little things really. I am a very excellent reader and I read at a very high level, college level to be precise but I have a low math level which is like 2nd grade/3rd grade level. So it's true that you can be knowledgable in one subject but...not so knowlegable in another. :3

I mean sure, not everyone is bright and whether it's because of a learning disability or not, we still learn at our best and do what we think is right. :B Sometimes we just need a little push. :P

~ Yukishii
February 9th, 2009, 09:41 AM
I noticed that many autism affected people have a steady intelligence..
I read about a man the other day who acts just like a child, and can't even speak.. but his artwork is absolutely amazing.
He beats Picasso by a long shot. [No offense to fans.]
In the same video there was another man who couldn't speak 100% correctly either, but could remember absolutely everything he read, heard, or saw through his entire life. If you asked him about what event took place on a certain day, or the weather that day, whether it be years ago or not.. he'd be able to tell you.
The videos said the men have a severe case of autism.. but if you notice they are extremely brilliant. Creative for the first man, and logical for the second man.
A lot of people think that those with autism are mentally retarded, but a lot of us do beyond the normal human intelligence in certain fields.
So, never down yourself if you have autism.. it does not mean your stupid.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 9th, 2009, 11:48 AM
I realize easily if someone wishes to be my friend.. for some reason I'm found very interesting to people.
As for people with mental disabilities being beyond that of a normal human, it is possible. For every flaw there is a plus side. The greater the flaw, the greater the plus. Such as Asperger's.. the flaw? Social disability. The plus? Very intelligent.
That is how I see it anyways.


I think you sussed it for a lot of us here. ^_^ There certainly is a connection between aspergers and intelligence. For example i am talented at english, or literacy. I went into this exam a couple of days ago, where you had to take a card in with revision quotes to help you remember things as you point out things in the text. I came out of it with an A* without using a card... I am also a very fast reader (I don't read very often, but still)

Anyways, they're really unique things, and i won't blame autism for them...And you are very right to say that autism is nothing to be sad about.

basselope7
February 10th, 2009, 05:07 AM
I have Asperger's syndrome too. The problem is, when I was a kid I was a freak, and now that I've actually matured, all of the people who knew me back then don't see I've changed. I kind of have a reputation for being the town nut. :(

I also have the problem with people never hearing of it. One of the most ignorant things I hear from people is "You have an a** burger?" They seem to think that's so hilarious. I tell them it's someone's name (after correcting them on the spelling) and say not to make fun of people's names, because someone from Austria might think their name is funny. One time when I told someone this, she said, "Wait, how come you can be so immature and then say something very mature right after it?" I swear I wanted to punch her in the face.

Then there was the girl who refused to believe I had Asperger's. One day she came up to me and said, "You know, I saw a boy on TV who had Asperger's, and he didn't act like you at all." I told her it's because girls express it differently. Then months later she came up to me and said, "Guess what? I saw this girl on America's Next Top Model who had Asperger's, and she acted just like you! So now I believe you!"

What I said to that was a very insincere "Uh, thanks!" What I thought in my mind, however, was something more along the lines of "Go die now."

Zeta Patchouli
February 10th, 2009, 05:30 AM
Understandable, as that would get on anyone's nerves. I never had the same problem with that, especially since I never showed much signs to anyone. In fact, when I told someone I had it, he said. "You don't have autism, and for every time you say you do, I will hit you." Of course, he was just joking about the hit me part, but... eh, I really didn't care. It just shows that I can control it pretty good. No one I ever meet, with the exception of three people ever believed me. Oh, well... I don't really care if anyone knows or doesn't know.

I hate the fact that schools treat high-functioning Autism as Aspergers, as we are still different from Aspergers. That's what sucks, but... do they really care, or even if they do, would they want to waste money on high-functioning Autistic people? Probably not, especially since my school, like many others is under-funded, and it is just going to get worse next year.

Soul Eater
February 13th, 2009, 08:11 PM
I have Asperger's syndrome too. The problem is, when I was a kid I was a freak, and now that I've actually matured, all of the people who knew me back then don't see I've changed. I kind of have a reputation for being the town nut. :(

I also have the problem with people never hearing of it. One of the most ignorant things I hear from people is "You have an a** burger?" They seem to think that's so hilarious. I tell them it's someone's name (after correcting them on the spelling) and say not to make fun of people's names, because someone from Austria might think their name is funny. One time when I told someone this, she said, "Wait, how come you can be so immature and then say something very mature right after it?" I swear I wanted to punch her in the face.

Then there was the girl who refused to believe I had Asperger's. One day she came up to me and said, "You know, I saw a boy on TV who had Asperger's, and he didn't act like you at all." I told her it's because girls express it differently. Then months later she came up to me and said, "Guess what? I saw this girl on America's Next Top Model who had Asperger's, and she acted just like you! So now I believe you!"

What I said to that was a very insincere "Uh, thanks!" What I thought in my mind, however, was something more along the lines of "Go die now."

I hate when people are like that. See, the problem is our society because everyone is all of a sudden being diagnosed with Autism just because they have social issues. What the hell? I mean for someone who does have autism, it's hard for them to get the attention they need without some idiot saying, "Hey, don't you know? Autism is an excuse for attention." or some other bogus thing.

Understandable, as that would get on anyone's nerves. I never had the same problem with that, especially since I never showed much signs to anyone. In fact, when I told someone I had it, he said. "You don't have autism, and for every time you say you do, I will hit you." Of course, he was just joking about the hit me part, but... eh, I really didn't care. It just shows that I can control it pretty good. No one I ever meet, with the exception of three people ever believed me. Oh, well... I don't really care if anyone knows or doesn't know.

I hate the fact that schools treat high-functioning Autism as Aspergers, as we are still different from Aspergers. That's what sucks, but... do they really care, or even if they do, would they want to waste money on high-functioning Autistic people? Probably not, especially since my school, like many others is under-funded, and it is just going to get worse next year.

Well, there is a pretty big debate on high functioning and Asperger's because they do have similiar traits. So it is pretty understandable and I also had a few friends who had asperger syndrome.

My first friend, her name was riannon...or something. She had a full-blown case and it was actually tough for us being friends.

See, I have a ritual of watching a movie before I go to sleep. I'm sure you've heard, anyway...She said that she couldn't sleep with the TV on, which was hard for me because could and it was the only way I could sleep...We stopped being friends after a while because we were just so different from one another that we got into fights.

I have another friend named Chris and I think he had alot of therapy for his. Though, he did have outbursts with his friends and was somewhat aggressive.

He was a great guy though and he loved trains. He was very smart too and just like everyone else.

Though, he was a complainer and often complained about things that happened in real life or something.

Alot of people with Autism have very different reactions to things. Not all of us are the same. Some of us could go without even saying we are autistic.

For me, I have a hard time asking questions. I usually have to have my mom or dad ask them because I lock up and start freaking out. It's ahrd being over 18 too because I should be making me own desicions. However, I act more like a seven year old who was born in a 20 year olds body.

It can be hard for people to understand this. I have a hard time even explaining what I said above to people. My mom or dad has to explain to them for me and they are able to understand.

I don't get over stimulated by sound because I take a stimulant medication. Though, I might have to get it changed because I'm starting to get overstimulated a bit by sound.

~ Yukishii
February 14th, 2009, 01:21 PM
It's stupidity to compare us to each other, and state your lieing just because you and another autistic person aren't entirely alike.
Not to mention uneducated for making such a ridiculous statement; without learning everything there is to learn about autism.
For if they had learned about autism they'd know that the levels and behaviors differ for every person.
Some of us with autism are extra sensitive, either to sound, to touch, ect..
Like Misayu said, her friend with Asperger's couldn't sleep with the TV on.. that could mean she is sensitive to sound and/or light..
Then some of us not so sensitive.. I am not very sensitive to touch.. in fact my feeling is pretty dull, lower than average. But I am extremely sensitive to light and sound.
Behavior wise, a lot of the people effected by Asperger's tend to be pretty emotionless.. or have very strong emotion.
With 'normal' autism it's the very same.. such as strong anger as mentioned by Misayu.
Getting to the point, even people with disorders are different in many ways from one another.. just like any other human.

Edit ; Ignore my reference to autism as 'mental disorder'. I am still working out my issues with English.

Stalin Malone
February 14th, 2009, 06:06 PM
Autism and Aspergers syndrome are both pseudoscience. The descriptions of both indicate that it's the effect of poor (read: lenient) parenting on the parts of parents that causes both and not any sort of 'mental disorder'.

basselope7
February 15th, 2009, 07:06 AM
Autism and Aspergers syndrome are both pseudoscience. The descriptions of both indicate that it's the effect of poor (read: lenient) parenting on the parts of parents that causes both and not any sort of 'mental disorder'.

Shows what you know. It's not a "mental disorder," it's a developmental disability. Plus the symptoms of these conditions are apparent since the day of birth.

You = Fail.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 15th, 2009, 07:12 AM
Shows what you know. It's not a "mental disorder," it's a developmental disability. Plus the symptoms of these conditions are apparent since the day of birth.

You = Fail.

To correct you, it is common for no symptoms to show until roughly the age of 3 years old, or later. You are still correct though...What basis does bad parenting have on autism? At all? Neurodevelopmental disability, not mental disorder. They are comparably different.

Also, the fact that you compare bad parenting to lenient in the matter suggests that you perheps think we are just spoiled? I'd just like to remind you that you are on a forum, likely to be quite far away from a lot of people here, and you're saying this? Fail.

~ Yukishii
February 15th, 2009, 04:59 PM
Please excuse any of my bad English. I referred to autism as 'mental disorder' because what it's called in English escaped me.
But, it does have to do with your brain, and it's a disorder.

Autism is, however, associated a lot of the time with agents that cause birth defects.
But is proven not to be caused by bad parenting.
Why don't you try Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism) sometime?

But in hardcore truth, no one, not even experts know for sure what causes autism.
A number of things can..

joey2joey
February 15th, 2009, 10:40 PM
I have mild Asperger's syndrome. I think it has helped me handle stress better now that I am older.

Zennerick
February 16th, 2009, 05:27 PM
I have ADHD. The only things
that gives me trouble are being unorganized and
that I often can't concenrate in school.

I am not sure if Asperger's has much to do with anxiety, but I do have that problem as well.

Research has shown that the rate of anxiety symptoms in children or adults with
Asperger Syndrome is much higher then average. More then 75% of
all children with Asperger also experience intense anxious feelings.

Soul Eater
February 16th, 2009, 05:36 PM
Autism and Aspergers syndrome are both pseudoscience. The descriptions of both indicate that it's the effect of poor (read: lenient) parenting on the parts of parents that causes both and not any sort of 'mental disorder'.

Excuse me but my parents treat me very well. People like you need to READ before posting. I know you think you're stating on opinion but that is very hurtful.

I agree that sometimes Autism does end up becoming a huge misdiagnosis on children at a young age. However, it is very real and whether you want to believe so or not, you should keep those opinions to yourself.

Azonic
February 16th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Why don't you try Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism) sometime? I don't think you realize what's wrong with that sentence.

I have a friend with mild Autism, not like it matters. \D He's pretty normal outside of concentration and stuff. It's definitely real.

Kylie-chan
February 16th, 2009, 05:53 PM
Autism and Aspergers syndrome are both pseudoscience. The descriptions of both indicate that it's the effect of poor (read: lenient) parenting on the parts of parents that causes both and not any sort of 'mental disorder'.

What would you know? Both my brother and I are autistic and were raised by physically and emotionally abusive parents. I would hardly call them lenient. Nonetheless I've met plenty of fellow autistics with the most supportive and skilled parents. Your generalisation is utterly unfounded and likely based on limited to no experience.

Secondly, it isn't a mental disorder; it's a pervasive developmental / personality disorder. How do they indicate it's poor parenting? If you're going to spout utter crap like that, back it up. Currently, science is on our side, not yours -- autism and Asperger's syndrome are both recognised DSM-IV disorders, unless you're going to call the combined efforts of psychiatry psuedoscience? Autistic spectrum disorders are linked to the nervous system; parenting doesn't cause neurological problems.

Soul Eater
February 16th, 2009, 05:54 PM
I don't think you realize what's wrong with that sentence.

I have a friend with mild Autism, not like it matters. \D He's pretty normal outside of concentration and stuff. It's definitely real.

Autism is hard to see. That's why it's considered a hidden disability and a lot of people don't know very much about it.

It's pretty sad. I mean, like I said, there are cases where a child is diagnosed with it because of some profound behavioral issue and the child may be just being a child.

Autism is more than that and sometimes symptoms will depend on the severity of the autism itself. Some autistic children have a more profound case of Autism that makes it easier to see and others will have only mild cases and probably have the ability to act like everyone else, just with some imbalance.

What would you know? Both my brother and I are autistic and were raised by physically and emotionally abusive parents. I would hardly call them lenient. Secondly, it isn't a mental disorder; it's a pervasive developmental / personality disorder. How do they indicate it's poor parenting? If you're going to spout utter crap like that, back it up. Currently, science is on our side, not yours -- autism and Asperger's syndrome are both recognised DSM-IV disorders, unless you're going to call the combined efforts of psychiatry psuedoscience?

That's my girl. <3

Zennerick
February 16th, 2009, 06:07 PM
Autism and Aspergers syndrome are both pseudoscience. The descriptions of both indicate that it's the effect of poor (read: lenient) parenting on the parts of parents that causes both and not any sort of 'mental disorder'.

By reading this, I can easily determine that you are a Scientologist.
You people have no evidence to back this up. If I were to ask you
why autism doesn't exist, i'd most likely get no awnser.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 16th, 2009, 06:13 PM
Well, I believe that Autism is a true and serious condition, however, it is way too over-diagnosed.

For example, take myself. Supposedly I have autism because I stand on my toes and I wear my pants over my waist. Even though standing on ones toes is odd (I actually do it because my feet aren't shaped properly and I will not balance unless I stand on my toes), simply these little "quirks" do not determine if one is Autistic or not.

I'm not saying it doesn't exist - it does and I feel sorry for those afflicted with it. However, it should be addressed that some children are being told they are autistic when not. Would you want to be falsely diagnosed with cancer? ALS? AIDS?

On a sidenote - I know several people with Aspergers. It's odd, each case is completely unique. Another reason why we have to be careful with diagnosing these things - my friend Sean, for example, is almost a completely functional person in society, however, when he doesn't agree with you, you just can't get your argument through. Another person I know named Tim, is on the completely opposite side of the spectrum. The kid won't even talk to me after I turned him down to his attempted conversion 5 years ago. The spectrum is almost too wide to measure, let alone accurately.

Soul Eater
February 16th, 2009, 06:18 PM
By reading this, I can easily determine that you are a Scientologist.
I have one thing to say to you; you people are completely crazy.

I think he already gets it? D: If not, what Kylie said will surely make him think twice.

Anyway, let's try to get back on topic before a mod comes back in here. I think a mod already saw his post.

I wouldn't say my life is better with autism. I've realized that because I have such a low IQ, I've had a more difficult time being an average adult.

I've also been seen as a 14 year old before. People look at me and think I'm under 18. It's rather funny but because of this, no one really seems to bother wondering if I'm over 18.

I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to live on my own. I know that I have a good vocabulary but it's not the vocabulary that can get me a job at the local supermarket and my own apartment.

I don't know how to perform normal living skills. Sure, I can brush my teeth, take a bath and put on my own clothes but the things I can't do are doing my own laundry, vacuuming, and all the daily chores.

My autism could be more profound then it works out to be. It's a total mystery but it is there.

Though, i do think I might have a mild to moderate case of mental retardation too...

Don't feel sorry for us. We may have alot of challenges but doesn't everyone? We've all learned to cope with what we are dealing with.

It's not like we have cancer. It's also not a SERIOUS CONDITION. It's just what Kylie said and alot of autistic people become successful with their lives.

It depends on severity and even so, it's not like we are dealing with some that will kill us someday. Don't treat us like we are diseased, treat us like normal individuals because we just might surprise you with skills you never even dreamed of.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 16th, 2009, 06:30 PM
I know some people who have mental disabilities as well. They range from those that only take one "slowed" down class to those who can't even tie their shoes. I sit with them at lunch because I realize that all they have is eachother, and they are ostricized (gah, spelling) by everyone else. It makes me sick to see all the people who ignore them. When I got to know them, they turned out to share more in common with me than a lot of the people in my Advanced classes. Unlike others in the lunchroom, these people may not be so Trivia smart, or even sometimes functionally-smart. But what I see in them is something I don't see in a lot of people. Respect. Loyalty. Kindness. And maybe just plain joy.

Some people I see are just worried about how others view them, so they don't sit with these "outcastes". I realize that I'm a weirdo because of my unusual "quirks" and strange, but socially acceptable, behaviour (such as cosplay in school - hey, its comfy, its cool and its not against the school rules in any way, so what the hey?). At the cost of conformity, I gain independence. I realize that they're different as well, so rather than letting our differences split us apart, I allow our similarities to form friendships.

Thus is living proof that an IQ of 40 and an IQ of 136 have nothing to do with the person you really are.

And wow, Misayu, you type so intellegently, with such deep thought. You can't possibly have that low of an IQ. Intellegence is something that's hard to measure accurately due to its many forms.

I don't think there's a techical term for this, but I have a very unusal mental disorder - almost once every 3 hours, I have a totally uncontrolled thought on suicide. It's completely random, and makes no sense whatsoever. It started to really pop up a few months ago when I fell to my deepest emotional low, but now the thoughts just echo.
It's not like I actually want to go out and kill myself - it's comletely random, and I have to dispell of the thought consiously, or else it won't go away.
Hm... I don't know what that really would be.

Soul Eater
February 16th, 2009, 06:34 PM
I know some people who have mental disabilities as well. They range from those that only take one "slowed" down class to those who can't even tie their shoes. I sit with them at lunch because I realize that all they have is eachother, and they are ostricized (gah, spelling) by everyone else. It makes me sick to see all the people who ignore them. When I got to know them, they turned out to share more in common with me than a lot of the people in my Advanced classes. Unlike others in the lunchroom, these people may not be so Trivia smart, or even sometimes functionally-smart. But what I see in them is something I don't see in a lot of people. Respect. Loyalty. Kindness. And maybe just plain joy.

Some people I see are just worried about how others view them, so they don't sit with these "outcastes". I realize that I'm a weirdo because of my unusual "quirks" and strange, but socially acceptable, behaviour (such as cosplay in school - hey, its comfy, its cool and its not against the school rules in any way, so what the hey?). At the cost of conformity, I gain independence. I realize that they're different as well, so rather than letting our differences split us apart, I allow our similarities to form friendships.

Thus is living proof that an IQ of 40 and an IQ of 136 have nothing to do with the person you really are.

And wow, Misayu, you type so intellegently, with such deep thought. You can't possibly have that low of an IQ. Intellegence is something that's hard to measure.

...

wtf? I type normally because I've been on PC for four years. It has noting to do with my Autism, just common sense and following everyone else that types with intellegence.

You can't go judging a person by the way they write. I only write like this because I follow examples from my friends. When I said that autistic people can surprise you, I meant it.

Just because someone has a disability doesn't make them stupid. No one wants pity because they have a disability and they can learn like everyone else.

They just learn slower than normal people. I know alot about my disability and also about others because I have friends who had all sorts of different disabilities and they were as smart as any normal person.

I think it's called...depression? There is no unusual condition for something like that other than depression. Anyway, I think I've made my point here.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 16th, 2009, 06:42 PM
Huh? Whoa, you totally missed my message =O I did not try to call you stupid.

No, what I was saying was that you aren't stupid. Intellegence is a relative thing. So is IQ. Sure, learning slower has a negative connentation, but it does not make you stupid.

And I don't really feel pity towards you, either. I mean you can write beautifully. Besides, being on a forum for four years does not change your actual perception on the real world. Someone can type complete garbage with good grammar and fancy words, but it's when you actually mean what you say when people start thinking you're smart.

To be honest, I maybe book-smart, but I have absolutely atrocious orginazational skills and terrible handwriting, and although I may not be antisocial, I have a difficult time being status quo. The last post is a perfect example of one of my other downfalls - I can't communicate very well either (which is obviously one of your advantages). As I said, intellegence is a hard thing to measure because it has so many forms.

Even someone who can't tie their own shoes has something in them that makes them intellegent.

Soul Eater
February 16th, 2009, 06:55 PM
Huh? Whoa, you totally missed my message =O I did not try to call you stupid.

No, what I was saying was that you aren't stupid. Intellegence is a relative thing. So is IQ. Sure, learning slower has a negative connentation, but it does not make you stupid.

And I don't really feel pity towards you, either. I mean you can write beautifully. Besides, being on a forum for four years does not change your actual perception on the real world. Someone can type complete garbage with good grammar and fancy words, but it's when you actually mean what you say when people start thinking you're smart.

To be honest, I maybe book-smart, but I have absolutely atrocious orginazational skills and terrible handwriting, and although I may not be antisocial, I have a difficult time being status quo. The last post is a perfect example of one of my other downfalls - I can't communicate very well either. As I said, intellegence is a hard thing to measure because it has so many forms.

Even someone who can't tie their own shoes has something in them that makes them intellegent.

That's because I'm a writer. I am very good at writing and have done it ever since I was in fifth grade. It's just my biggest strength.

Believe me, I do learn slower than you would think. I also forgot to mention that I am terrible with math and reading comprehension.

Though, I can read exceptionally well but when i read a book, I can't tell you what the book was about. I also have trouble reading aloud because I stutter and mess up with my reading.

Idiot!
February 17th, 2009, 12:48 AM
Well, being the unique person that I am, I don't do much differentiation between living things. Yes. I am pretty much free from sexism, racism and other silly biases. I have two friends who are like that too: my dog and my mosquito plant. Rest in peace, both of you, for being loyal friends who stick with me to the end.

Unlike you guys, I do not have sleeping difficulties, but I find it hard to wake up. I have a messy table, but if you think I have a messy head, clear your table so it becomes empty. Now tell me what do you think of the owner.

I have a wonderful logical reasoning and mathematical ability. No, I cannot do cube roots of an eight digit number in my head, but I can grasp scientific concepts real fast. It helped me win awards from science-based competitions. The only thing stopping me from becoming a detective is my non-existent social skills.

I have no real ability to write a story that is beautiful to everyone else, mainly because all my metaphors and logic make no sense to others. I cannot stand the two extremes of food: spicy and icy. My human friends cannot accept why I have to lick my ice cream instead of biting off a big chunk, or why I hate spicy food. "Ice cream freezes my teeth" and "I am sensitive to the spicy sensation" cannot be comprehended by them.

Soul Eater
February 17th, 2009, 05:37 AM
I have to admit, being autistic can have its downers. Yet, it's not like we are immobile and can't do anything, we have flaws but we also have strengths that make up for everything.

As for people with mental disabilities being beyond that of a normal human, it is possible. For every flaw there is a plus side. The greater the flaw, the greater the plus.


^ Let's not forget this.

I know someone who had a very severe case of Autism. He couldn't talk well at all but he was very good at computers. I mean this kid could search for anything. He loved playing those online games and it really surprises you since most people think severe autistic people can't do very much.

He could speak but he couldn't speak well. When he wanted internet he didn't say, can I go on the internet? He would say, "eteh" because that's all he could pronounce. He was very sweet though and I actually miss him.

Even kids with down syndrome have the will power of a normal human being. Those kids probably can't read, write or even do math at a normal level but they are very good at special olympics. They have the best personalities and they are totally adorable.

I had three friends with down syndrome and they were all very sweet. Sure, you may find one kid who maybe be really mean but it's not like you won't find a normal human being who is mean.

People learn from their parents, they learn from peers and they learn from anyone that is willing to give them a hand. What they learn is what builds their personality and what's also what builds us too. We've come this far and I don't think we'll let anyone tell us we aren't autistic or we don't have the will power to do something we love.

Virtual Chatot
February 17th, 2009, 06:11 AM
My cousin was diagnosed with a mild form of Autism, which was found to be the fault of the Doctors at the hospital when he was born. ( from what I've heard, they gave him a medicine which they knew might cause Autism, but didn't ask my aunt if it was ok to give it to him ) So after a very well played lawsuit, they are all living in comfort. My cousin is six now, and he spends most of his time playing video games or going to the beach with my aunt. Apparently his form of Autism is something that people can grow out of, and he already sounds like he isn't Autistic, but more...eccentric

Autism and Aspergers syndrome are both pseudoscience. The descriptions of both indicate that it's the effect of poor (read: lenient) parenting on the parts of parents that causes both and not any sort of 'mental disorder'.I hate to break it to you, but untill you've actually helped taken care of an Autistic child for a month of your life, you have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

Soul Eater
February 17th, 2009, 06:14 AM
My cousin was diagnosed with a mild form of Autism, which was found to be the fault of the Doctors at the hospital when he was born. ( from what I've heard, they gave him a medicine which they knew might cause Autism, but didn't ask my aunt if it was ok to give it to him ) So after a very well played lawsuit, they are all living in comfort. My cousin is six now, and he spends most of his time playing video games or going to the beach with my aunt. Apparently his form of Autism is something that people can grow out of, and he already sounds like he isn't Autistic, but more...eccentric

...

Autism isn't caused by anything. No matter what people tell you. The causes of Autism are totally unknown because if it was a some medicine that caused your cousin to get Autism, then that would be the case for me and all the people in here that said they have it were the same way.

Also, you can't grow out of Autism. Now matter what case you have because it stays with you for the rest of your life.

Virtual Chatot
February 17th, 2009, 06:21 AM
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Autism isn't caused by anything. No matter what people tell you. The causes of Autism are totally unknown because if it was a some medicine that caused your cousin to get Autism, then that would be the case for me and all the people in here that said they have it were the same way.

Also, you can't grow out of Autism. Now matter what case you have because it stays with you for the rest of your life.

Of course you can't "grow out of it", but you can improve to a more controllable level over your actions :/

Fallacy of words on my part, I should have been more descriptive.

MMR and DPT vaccinations, google it.

Look, I was just stating what my Aunt and parents told me :/

Soul Eater
February 17th, 2009, 06:24 AM
Of course you can't "grow out of it", but you can improve to a more controllable level over your actions :/

Fallacy of words on my part, I should have been more descriptive.

MMR and DPT vaccinations, google it.

Look, I was just stating what my Aunt and parents told me :/

MMR and DPT haven't even been confirmed as a cause of Autism. They have only said that they MIGHT be. Just because they MIGHT be doesn't mean they are caused by it somehow.

Don't think I don't know about Autism.

You are right, people who have autism can become successful and some can't. It doesn't mean that because they learned to cope or improve on their cases doesn't mean they outgrew it. It just means they were able to find a way to overcome the boundaries. Those people still have trouble with flaws.

~ Yukishii
February 17th, 2009, 01:39 PM
Nothing has been proven to cause Autism.
One that has been assumed is agents that cause birth defects.
Pretty much the only one that makes even the slightest sense to me.

Soul Eater
February 17th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Nothing has been proven to cause Autism.
One that has been assumed is agents that cause birth defects.
Pretty much the only one that makes even the slightest sense to me.




Nothing has been proven. Everything that has been tossed out there is speculation, a total hunch.

Autism is totally unknown and I don't think we will ever know it's true cause. It seems to me like most of these cases that the claim are sky-rocketing could be all misdiagnosis.

It's so easy to misdiagnosis someone as having asperger syndrome. Let alone just Autism and other people seem to make sound like its a total epidemic.

It's getting way out of hand because now everyone wants to have a cure. It makes me so mad sometimes because people know so little about Autism that they are treating it like some deadly cancer.

No matter how much you explain, there will always end up being some crackpot that doesn't know what the hell they are talking about.

Penguin13
February 17th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Autism and Aspergers syndrome are both pseudoscience. The descriptions of both indicate that it's the effect of poor (read: lenient) parenting on the parts of parents that causes both and not any sort of 'mental disorder'.

CAUTION: OVERSIMPLIFICATION ALERT. ^

Seriously. So by your definition, ADD/ADHD would be caused by poor parenting?

No. The reason you think that is because of the over-prescription of drugs that treat these disorders. Doctors "mis-diagnose" and prescribe medication for these disorders simply for the money.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 17th, 2009, 02:14 PM
No. The reason you think that is because of the over-prescription of drugs that treat these disorders. Doctors "mis-diagnose" and prescribe medication for these disorders simply for the money.
A terrible truth that almost happened to me; luckily my parents are smart enough to realize that walking on one's toes is NOT a symptom of Autism.

Soul Eater
February 17th, 2009, 02:16 PM
CAUTION: OVERSIMPLIFICATION ALERT. ^

Seriously. So by your definition, ADD/ADHD would be caused by poor parenting?

No. The reason you think that is because of the over-prescription of drugs that treat these disorders. Doctors "mis-diagnose" and prescribe medication for these disorders simply for the money.

Wait, what are you saying?

I'll have you know that I suffer from ADHD and Autism. Those medications have helped me deal with stimulation and anxiety. I said nothing about medication.

Even I could tell you that. You have to have more than six or my symptoms to be diagnosed with Autism. Also, walking on ones toes isn't really an autistic trait. I've never walked on my toes except for fun and I don't do it because of Autism, I do it because it's fun.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 17th, 2009, 02:19 PM
No, he's saying that, yes, it exists, but it is overdiagnosed, and the reason is because the drug companies can make money off of it. I believe I said this here:

Well, I believe that Autism is a true and serious condition, however, it is way too over-diagnosed.

For example, take myself. Supposedly I have autism because I stand on my toes and I wear my pants over my waist. Even though standing on ones toes is odd (I actually do it because my feet aren't shaped properly and I will not balance unless I stand on my toes), simply these little "quirks" do not determine if one is Autistic or not.

I'm not saying it doesn't exist - it does and I feel sorry for those afflicted with it. However, it should be addressed that some children are being told they are autistic when not. Would you want to be falsely diagnosed with cancer? ALS? AIDS?


It IS overdiagnosed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's terrible that people would utilize disorders, though.

I think that Lipator/Crestor is an excellent example of another drug that is way oversuscribed for the drugmaker's profit. It's sick.

Soul Eater
February 17th, 2009, 02:26 PM
No, he's saying that, yes, it exists, but it is overdiagnosed. I believe I said this here:



It IS overdiagnosed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Oh, well that's what I've been saying. I mean in some cases, it can be caused by bad parenting, sure. Parents who are unsure about Autism and probably hear relatives say the child might be autistic.

I mean it seems like because I child is totally hyper but lacks social interaction gets diagnosed with ADHD/Autism.

It exists but it's exploited in the wrong ways. People are taking it to the extreme and don't realize that half of these cases are probably just children being children.

That's why when Autism isn't diagnosed until later in a child's life, say around ten, is because the child is showing behaviors that aren't typical for that age.

Plus, you have understand that if a child has massive panic attacks because there is too much noise or the lights in a department store are too bright...then it could most likely be leading to a case of Autism.

But with that there has to be four more symptoms to go along with it. Not two or one or three. Maybe about four or more, especially because even if there are only four common symptoms of Autism in a child, they could be something leading to Autism.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 17th, 2009, 02:31 PM
And thus brings up the very debatable point - where is the line of Autism crossed? When is one considered autistic?

When is anyone considered to have ANY disability?

Penguin13
February 17th, 2009, 02:33 PM
Wait, what are you saying?

I'll have you know that I suffer from ADHD and Autism. Those medications have helped me deal with stimulation and anxiety. I said nothing about medication.

Even I could tell you that. You have to have more than six or my symptoms to be diagnosed with Autism. Also, walking on ones toes isn't really an autistic trait. I've never walked on my toes except for fun and I don't do it because of Autism, I do it because it's fun.

Nonono, I wasn't referring to your post, I was referring to the post I quoted. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And I was saying that people who DON'T suffer from ADD/ADHD/this topic's ailments, are often "mis-diagnosed" for the doctor's profit.

Soul Eater
February 17th, 2009, 02:48 PM
And thus brings up the very debatable point - where is the line of Autism crossed? When is one considered autistic?

When is anyone considered to have ANY disability?

I wouldn't say it's debatable. I just think there are too many ways to be misdiagnosed, I mean it's clear that I have it.

Who's to say anyone in this thread does though? I know Kylie-chan and her brother have it, especially since she said her brother suffers from massive sensory issues.

There are things that can really mean a diagnose of Autism. If you look at the DSM-IV, that makes it clear.

People don't refer to it anymore, those leading in all kinds of misdiagnoses.

Nonono, I wasn't referring to your post, I was referring to the post I quoted. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And I was saying that people who DON'T suffer from ADD/ADHD/this topic's ailments, are often "mis-diagnosed" for the doctor's profit.

It's fine. I just didn't understand what you were saying. XD

Not really. I've noticed at hospitals, that doctors are become less and less experienced in any field of study. My mom has kidney stones and she had gone to the hospital, a doctor told her she was having bowel spasms.

It's the same thing for people who "supposedly" claim to be autistic. They don't realize that doctors aren't as experienced as they used to be.

NoBel_ToKYo ™
February 18th, 2009, 01:15 AM
I'm pretty sure that i still have autism..While i don't have many outward signs of it, At a time i obviously fitted what qualified as autistic. I do also recognise that i still have a few symptoms.

Who's to say anyone in this thread does though?While i understand where you're coming from, we need an element of trust here. ^^

and there is definitely some truth in what macintosh said, too. When i was younger i had trouble speaking and had to see speech therapists..Now i have been observed to have a vocabulary above average for my age. I think there are aspects of autism that are improved on over time, through environmental change, just like how peoples personalities can change over time. Of course, this is certainly not true for everyone, which i understand.

The question of "Where is the line one has to cross over to be autistic?" Is an incredibly challenging question. I feel a little like autism is where i had a key in my mind and it was chucked away (If you'll excuse the corny metaphor)

I was also very concerned years back over the MMR controversy, as i had been given the vaccination when i was born. Even if it did, what's done is done i guess.

It is also very important for doctors and psychiatrists trained in autism to refer to the DSM-IV. So many people make stupid mistakes regarding things like this these days.

~ Yukishii
February 18th, 2009, 04:27 AM
Who's to say anyone in this thread does though?

No one can say for sure, but what reasoning would anyone have to lie about something like that?
I mean think about it.. that is just way pointless, and a waste of time.
What stimulation does one get out of making that up?

Quoting 'What line is crossed to say one has autism?'.
When you are dealing with someone who has autism their brain appears to be wired much differently from what is 'normal'.
But then again the term 'normal' is completely opinion. Everyone has different aspects of what normal is, thus it has no true definition.
Possibly proving why some doctors confuse autism with something else these days..
I guess you could say autism is a pattern of behavior not recorded frequently or seen in that age.
Same thing with sensory issues.. How often do you find someone who is ultra sensitive to light without being albino?
I also fail to see the point in that question. Why challenge us?

Doctors are slackers these days, truly. A lot they say is lazy, thoughtless babble.
How in the bloody hell do you confuse bladder infection with yeast infection?
Get real.

My mom has kidney stones and she had gone to the hospital, a doctor told her she was having bowel spasms.

You know that actually makes sense for that to be confused..
Why? Because when you have a kidney stone your bladder area does spasm.
Maybe not your bowel area, but all of those systems deal with waste, so they are pretty close medical wise.

Soul Eater
February 18th, 2009, 06:30 PM
I'm pretty sure that i still have autism..While i don't have many outward signs of it, At a time i obviously fitted what qualified as autistic. I do also recognise that i still have a few symptoms.

While i understand where you're coming from, we need an element of trust here. ^^

and there is definitely some truth in what macintosh said, too. When i was younger i had trouble speaking and had to see speech therapists..Now i have been observed to have a vocabulary above average for my age. I think there are aspects of autism that are improved on over time, through environmental change, just like how peoples personalities can change over time. Of course, this is certainly not true for everyone, which i understand.

The question of "Where is the line one has to cross over to be autistic?" Is an incredibly challenging question. I feel a little like autism is where i had a key in my mind and it was chucked away (If you'll excuse the corny metaphor)

I was also very concerned years back over the MMR controversy, as i had been given the vaccination when i was born. Even if it did, what's done is done i guess.

It is also very important for doctors and psychiatrists trained in autism to refer to the DSM-IV. So many people make stupid mistakes regarding things like this these days.

I had the MMR vaccination too but I think everyone does and none of them are autistic.

I asked my friend if she had the MMR vaccine and she turned out fine. I think that's what they are having trouble with. The fact that it's not causing EVERYONE one to become autistic just because they received it.

I'm not saying you two aren't Autistic but there are people who have posted here, saying they are and it seems hard to say whether they are.

I mean people who come in here are saying they have very mild cases and that could be hard to consider as actually autism.

I mean I've never seen anyone in real life with Autism, except maybe at school. Whenever I go in public, I never see anyone who is considered as being autistic...but who knows?

I'm just saying that I don't think its as big of an epedemic as they say. Everyone just wants an excuse so they can have a cure. I don't think we need a cure at all.

It's not like we have cancer.

...Also, yeast infections and bladder infections have similiar symptoms.

HELL, It's easy to misdiagnose someone with Autism because there are symptoms similiar to those of Obsessive-compulsive disorder, ADHD, and even social phobia.

The problem is that there are bits and pieces of those disorders in one single case of autism. Alot of the times when someone has social phobia, OCD, ADHD and whatever...could be Autism.

It really wouldn't matter.

+Poochyena+
February 18th, 2009, 06:36 PM
I used to have Aspergers but I don't anymore.

Soul Eater
February 18th, 2009, 07:10 PM
I used to have Aspergers but I don't anymore.

...

WTF? Didn't hear what we were saying? Autism and Asperger syndrome stay with you forever. You either have it or you don't.

That's exactly the sort of thing we were discussing. The fact the people claim to have it but really don't.

If you do have it, you probably still do. If not, you probably were misdiagnosed with it and could have had something else, you can't be cured of it.

You can only get help and yet you will still have it the rest of your life.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 18th, 2009, 07:24 PM
I guess he means that he's learned to live with it, and it affects him less than it did before...

But a psychological, mental or anything else dealing with the mind stays with you until you die. However, you can learn to live with your shortcomings, and make the best of life. Or, you could just mope around all day and be misrable because of your flaws. It's really what you make of it.

Well, I guess that applies to most cases, anyhow.

Soul Eater
February 18th, 2009, 07:26 PM
I guess he means that he's learned to live with it, and it affects him less than it did before...

But a psychological, mental or anything else dealing with the mind stays with you until you die. However, you can learn to live with your shortcomings, and make the best of life. Or, you could just mope around all day and be misrable because of your flaws. It's really what you make of it.

Well, I guess that applies to most cases, anyhow.

He said he doesn't have it anymore...that's what I was getting at. I mean the flu is something you get over. A disability, whether it's personality, mental, developmental or physical, can stay with you all your life.

+Poochyena+
February 18th, 2009, 07:27 PM
Oh! Well, I was told I don't have it anymore. I got it when I was 5.

Soul Eater
February 18th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Oh! Well, I was told I don't have it anymore. I got it when I was 5.

...Really.

What did you have for symptoms? Did you have sensory issues, lack of social interaction, rituals and repetitive behaviors, meltdowns and outbursts...any of those?

+Poochyena+
February 18th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Well, it was a tiny bit in lack of social skills and something else.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 18th, 2009, 07:40 PM
He said he doesn't have it anymore...that's what I was getting at. I mean the flu is something you get over. A disability, whether it's personality, mental, developmental or physical, can stay with you all your life.
All I'm saying is that he probably meant something else...

But now that he says that someone told him that, that get's me a tad annoyed. It's not something you grow out of...

Soul Eater
February 18th, 2009, 07:53 PM
Well, it was a tiny bit in lack of social skills and something else.

...That doesn't sound like autism at all. Besides, five is way to young for such a diagnosis. Most kids around five are prone to shyness and massive attachments to their parents.

Plus, it's stated in the DSM-IV that anyone who is diagnosed with Autism must show five or more symptoms. If possible, that they might have four symptoms who are considered severe, like having massive sensory issues and rituals/repetitive movements, then it's possibly an ASD.

Any other case is considered PDD-NOS, in your case, I still say you were in some sort of phase. I mean when I was your age, I was diagnosed with having ADHD and a slow learning disability. It wasn't until after they did massive testing at ten that I was diagnosed with mild to moderate Autism.

I mean with that it's so likely it wasn't autism at all. I mean like I said, it's not something you can grow it of. You can grow out of phases but you can't grow out of autism or asperger syndrome.

It's all said here: http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/overview_diagnostic_criteria.htm

All I'm saying is that he probably meant something else...

But now that he says that someone told him that, that get's me a tad annoyed. It's not something you grow out of...

He...is right there you know. D:

Ziraider
February 19th, 2009, 03:55 PM
Wow, I never realized that this many people have all these types of problems.

I have bipolar and i also have Major Deperssion....

basselope7
February 19th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Wow, I never realized that this many people have all these types of problems.

I have bipolar and i also have Major Deperssion....

I prefer to think of them as "blessings." ^_^

Soul Eater
February 19th, 2009, 05:24 PM
I prefer to think of them as "blessings." ^_^

You never did say what things you have that make you autistic. We've all told our flaws and you should too. :O

Don't be afraid to share it with us. We know how one another feels and we can relate. :3

basselope7
February 19th, 2009, 05:31 PM
Well there were a lot more when I was a kid, a lot of my "quirks" I've stopped at one point or another. But I still have a few.

I have problems with self-control, don't trust people enough, can't call people by name, overshare information too much, have some uncontrollable physical habits that take years to break each time i get them (one I have had for six years and it doesn't show any signs of ever stopping), feel a need to correct/explain things all the time, and more.

If you're interested, I also have bipolar, ADHD, and extremely slight OCD.

Soul Eater
February 19th, 2009, 05:41 PM
Well there were a lot more when I was a kid, a lot of my "quirks" I've stopped at one point or another. But I still have a few.

I have problems with self-control, don't trust people enough, can't call people by name, overshare information too much, have some uncontrollable physical habits that take years to break each time i get them (one I have had for six years and it doesn't show any signs of ever stopping), feel a need to correct/explain things all the time, and more.

If you're interested, I also have bipolar, ADHD, and extremely slight OCD.

I...don't want to be a jerk or anything but that really doesn't sound like Asperger syndrome.

Kylie made that clear two or three pages ago. Seriously, Asperger syndrome is way off than from that.

http://autistics.selfip.org/dsm4-aspergers.html

If you want to read up on the general symptoms and try to see if you have those as well, prove me wrong.

basselope7
February 19th, 2009, 05:49 PM
You didn't know me when I was a kid. Back then I showed signs more. Way more.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 19th, 2009, 06:00 PM
Well, as I said before, I haven't been diagnosed with anything yet, but I know that I'm not what most people call "normal" (can that seriously even have a meaning?)

For example, I am known for:
- Talking to myself whenever there is silence - it's bizarre and I literally can't control it.
- Mood swings (but they are usually not from happiness to anger, normally they're from happiness to deep sadness; another thing I really can't control)
- Becoming extremely obsessive over something (to the point that I sometimes forget to eat)
- Sometimes I stare at an object and I get lost in space for a little bit...
- Very high succeptability to sugar (strangely enough, I'm not that suceptable to caffine...)
- Undereating
- Lack of Trust (I think this is an aquired behaviour though - I realize that I can be rather Naive and thus I became a lot less trustworthy)
And the such.

I'll start paying more attention to my behaviours to see if I can list more, but these 7 are mainly the ones that people notice a lot.
Now I don't want anyone playing doctor here, but I'd really like a little suggestion to what could be causing these things...

~ Yukishii
February 19th, 2009, 06:00 PM
If you could clarify the signs you had as a kid it could help us understand better basselope.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 19th, 2009, 06:07 PM
Well, in reality, they are the same, except I was a lot more Naive. I guess you could also say they were about 10x what they are now, but I think the talking to myself, undereating, obsessiveness and the whole "lost in space" thing have gotten worse.

It's weird. If there's complete silence, I'll start talking to myself within 5 minutes. I also constantly talk to myself when walking down crowded hallways because the noise in the background is just nonsense to my ears. It's like I have an uncontrollable urge to hear something that makes sense in the background.

EDIT: Whoops, just realized you were talking to Basslope. Oh well, I guess I had to explain a little more anyways...

basselope7
February 19th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Too many to list, but here's a sample:

I acted like a cat, dog, mastadon, alien, etc.; went up to random strangers and described my cats in detail; chased boys around the gym screaming "I love you" in Furbish; pretended to believe everything said on TV was true; tried to convince people I was a robot; had elaborate and hard to understand one-player games with myself; got up and walked around the room during class; got incredibly upset when things didn't go my way; cried over everything; and had so many obsessions including cats, *NSYNC, Littlest Pet Shop, Tamagotchis, Beanie Babies, and many more. I would take my Beanie Babies and other toys and make them pretend to be Pokémon and battle each other. I would pretend to watch an invisible TV on the back of a car chair. I would insist that just because I didn't like certain things, nobody else could like them "under penalty of death" (or something like that). I would tell people there was a planet and man inside my head. I would swing girls' ponytails around. I would type random letters in an email and send it to someone.

That covers about... 2% of it.

Soul Eater
February 19th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Too many to list, but here's a sample:

I acted like a cat, dog, mastadon, alien, etc.; went up to random strangers and described my cats in detail; chased boys around the gym screaming "I love you" in Furbish; pretended to believe everything said on TV was true; tried to convince people I was a robot; had elaborate and hard to understand one-player games with myself; got up and walked around the room during class; got incredibly upset when things didn't go my way; cried over everything; and had so many obsessions including cats, *NSYNC, Littlest Pet Shop, Tamagotchis, Beanie Babies, and many more. I would take my Beanie Babies and other toys and make them pretend to be Pokémon and battle each other. I would pretend to watch an invisible TV on the back of a car chair. I would insist that just because I didn't like certain things, nobody else could like them "under penalty of death" (or something like that). I would tell people there was a planet and man inside my head. I would swing girls' ponytails around. I would type random letters in an email and send it to someone.

That covers about... 2% of it.

Wow, sorry. I really didn't have any idea. XD

I used to do a lot of odd things too as a child. I was an obsessive tomboy and did prented to race my bike around this field next to my house. I also pretended the snow plow was out to get me and would hide from it when it came around.

I still meow like a cat sometimes. I love cats because they are totally adorable and they have very cute meows. :B

I still cry over not getting things my way and tend to get overly emotional over things. I'm not that good at social interaction unless I am with someone I am comfortable with, like my dad.

I mean sure, if i was five years old, having a tantrum over not getting what I wanted would be normal but for a 20 year old, it would seem as if I have major issues. Some of my behavoirs are between 3 and seven years old.

I sleep with four plushies too and I have strong attachments to my blanket and can't part with it. I think it has to do with sameness because I'm used to having a comforter that feels as soft as a baby's bottom.

However, I have a lot of conflicts with my other disabilities and it's possible that what you've said could conflict with the ones you have.

Jupiter: Wow, have you told your doctor about it? What you should do is keep a notebook, write down everything you feel, everything you notice, etc. Give it to your doctor at the next check up.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 19th, 2009, 07:55 PM
Wow, sorry. I really didn't have any idea. XD
I sleep with four plushies too and I have strong attachments to my blanket and can't part with it. I think it has to do with sameness because I'm used to having a comforter that feels as soft as a baby's bottom.
Well, there's really nothing imature about that. I'm a lot like the same way (well, part of the reason why I wear the blanket is because my arms get cold real easily, but...)

I guess it's what you define as immature. Usually, I consider a behaviour, whether it is intentional or not, that is disruptive immature. Thus, it's really not that immature at all.

(Actually, I think I'm defending myself more than you on this one XP)

Soul Eater
February 19th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Well, there's really nothing imature about that. I'm a lot like the same way (well, part of the reason why I wear the blanket is because my arms get cold real easily, but...)

I guess it's what you define as immature. Usually, I consider a behaviour, whether it is intentional or not, that is disruptive immature. Thus, it's really not that immature at all.

(Actually, I think I'm defending myself more than you on this one XP)

No, but it is autistic behavior. I have attachments and resist on sameness with a lot of things. I just don't have massive panic attacks if those things are changed.

See, I can deal with change in some extent. If my room is moved around, it actually helps with my sudden depression/anxiety (which is actually considered as just autistic behavior for me) but if I couldn't watch the movie I wanted to watch before going to bed or my DVD player broke or something...then I can get a bit upset. I usually start to cry and throw a big tantrum when I can't watch something in the living room until I am able to have it fixed.

It happened a while ago where my old DVD player died on me. It totally froze and I was in meltdown mode afterwords...meltdown modes for me are usually an angry face and sulking not massive crying and carrying on but still meltdowns since I usually scream at my parents to leave me alone...anyway, I was in meltdown mode for a bit and then went back into the living room to bug my father to let me sleep on the couch and my mom hated this but I did it.

The next day, my dad bought a blu-ray disc player for the living room and I got the DVD player previously in the living room. I had to go back into my room.

I think because where I do have enough sense to not carry on over something, it does help. I mean I will cry in a massive panic when I am pressured.

My rituals aren't as severe as someone who might have a much more worse case of Autism then the other person.

However, I also have outbursts where I tend to throw things. It's more like being in a trance, except I'm aware of myself and yet the only thing I can think about is what I am so ticked off a bit, it's considered an overload of emotions where I do things in a huge rage and don't think of the consequences.

It's not normal behavior for a 20 year old woman, believe me.

There is alot of things that you probably wouldn't consider of me online. Though if you were to somehow come to my house to evaulate my behaviors, then it's something you would notice right away.

It's not because I'm spoiled but mostly because I'm not at the right age limit in my state of mind. I do alot of childish things that would be considered below the level of an average 20 year old. It's more like, having a 'failure to thrive' label, except for the fact that I'm rather chubby and not lacking food.

It's more like saying that I would never be able to fend for myself if I had my own house. I wouldn't be able to cook, do laundry, remember to pay bills or even to know how to pay bills, etc. In a way, it's sad to think about but there a lot of people who are like that.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 20th, 2009, 05:35 AM
Hmmm... I guess its another example of how hard it is to draw the line with mental disorders. Immaturity is a very difficult thing to measure due to it having a different meaning to every person.

Hm... I normally don't throw tantrums. I am a pretty calm person, and I only get angry when someone is constantly provoking me (which I think actually has more of an effect - the person is more likely to back down from someone who's normally calm and gets pissed off rather than someone who gets pissed off a lot). However, I can quickly fall into a deep depressive state. I'm 100% sure it comes from my father, but basically, if something makes me feel sad, I get very very sad over it. It only lasts a little while, but it gets really deep.

For example, once, I had pissed off my Chem teacher in the morning for whatever reason. He got all upset at me, and I literally got depressed all day. By the time I got home, I got over it because I was dog tired, but I knew that I shouldn't have gotten that emotional over it.

I've also noticed that I get really panicky if someone looks through my room/binder/other personal places, and I really don't know why. It feels like someone's just going through my room and just making it all disorganized, even though it usually is already disorganized. I'm very uptight about people comming into my room and I usually tell people to get out. I also absolutely cannot stand being provoked, especially if I'm in kind of an "obsessive" state.

Soul Eater
February 20th, 2009, 09:39 AM
Hmmm... I guess its another example of how hard it is to draw the line with mental disorders. Immaturity is a very difficult thing to measure due to it having a different meaning to every person.

I've also noticed that I get really panicky if someone looks through my room/binder/other personal places, and I really don't know why. It feels like someone's just going through my room and just making it all disorganized, even though it usually is already disorganized. I'm very uptight about people comming into my room and I usually tell people to get out. I also absolutely cannot stand being provoked, especially if I'm in kind of an "obsessive" state.

well, there is alot of other things I have too. It's all combined with Autism but I do have autistic traits, no doubt.

I do that too. I get pissed at my mom for coming into my room and start panicking. D: When she touches my stuff, I am the same way. It's hard for me to just let anyone touch my stuff and I'm not sure why I get so panicked over it.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 20th, 2009, 11:34 AM
Darn it Misayu I keep on thinking you're the same age as me XP

I personally feel that I may have a slight case of both Autism and ADD (or maybe even ADHD) but I really don't think it's anything that I need drugs for.

(I point this out because when I was five and they supposedly "diagnosed" me with autism, it was so blatantly obvious that it was for the money that it still makes me sick)

Soul Eater
February 20th, 2009, 12:34 PM
Darn it Misayu I keep on thinking you're the same age as me XP

I personally feel that I may have a slight case of both Autism and ADD (or maybe even ADHD) but I really don't think it's anything that I need drugs for.

(I point this out because when I was five and they supposedly "diagnosed" me with autism, it was so blatantly obvious that it was for the money that it still makes me sick)

You might have PDD-NOS. PDD-NOS can be used to classify someone who might have possible traits of Autism, but somehow don't fit as actually being any other Autism spectrum disorder.

I mean like you said, you've realized you might have a slight case of Autism but it isn't enough to be considered severe in some areas. PDD-NOS is considered as something that is used to diagnose people with autistic traits but in a way that they can't be specified as being actual autism, asperger syndrome or high-functioning or even Rett Syndrome.

Though, Rett Syndrome isn't techincally autistic. It only shares some traits of Autism and isn't diagnosed until after around 18 months. It can cause brain impairment and can be very severe. It's also only seen in girls.

Yeah, i get that alot. XD I was at the store once and my mom was buying cigrattes. The clerk didn't want me to carry them and gave them to my mom instead.

The clerk thought I was like, 15 and my mom told her I was 20...she was surprised because I looked so young. I am pretty short for my age limit.

Corvus of the Black Night
February 20th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Hmm, okay. Maybe I should look into it with a doctor.

Generally, though, I'm completely functional, and I'm even in some advanced courses and stuff. I don't think that whatever I have is so severe that it's going to effect my functionality, rather, it's just a "why?" kind of thing. Now that I look at it, some quirks like my extreme obsessiveness are really useful when it comes to learning things.

A "female" exclusive disorder? That's rather odd. I've heard of sex linked traits, but they usually apply to males.

Soul Eater
February 20th, 2009, 02:11 PM
Hmm, okay. Maybe I should look into it with a doctor.

Generally, though, I'm completely functional, and I'm even in some advanced courses and stuff. I don't think that whatever I have is so severe that it's going to effect my functionality, rather, it's just a "why?" kind of thing. Now that I look at it, some quirks like my extreme obsessiveness are really useful when it comes to learning things.

A "female" exclusive disorder? That's rather odd. I've heard of sex linked traits, but they usually apply to males.

Well, it could could be some other disorder too. I couldn't really be too sure. I know in the thread called hitting rock bottom you were talking about how you felt down all the time.

It's possible you could have depression. It's pretty common for young folk because of stress and everything.

I wouldn't consider talking about PDD-NOS but I would tell her about some of things you have. It's better to talk to your primary doctor rather than to someone who isn't as experienced. XD

NoBel_ToKYo ™
March 7th, 2009, 12:37 AM
Well, it could could be some other disorder too. I couldn't really be too sure. I know in the thread called hitting rock bottom you were talking about how you felt down all the time.

It's possible you could have depression. It's pretty common for young folk because of stress and everything.

I wouldn't consider talking about PDD-NOS but I would tell her about some of things you have. It's better to talk to your primary doctor rather than to someone who isn't as experienced. XD

Autism can get very confusing. I was reading one of my folk's books on it a couple of days ago.

Anyway, I've been away for a while, so i thought i'd better have some kind of reply here. XD

Toblerone
March 7th, 2009, 08:25 AM
I have not noticed this :O.

Anyway, let me tell you about one of my old high school friends, Tom. After a LONG time without hearing from him in school, he eventually comes back. I don't understand what's up until he tells me he was diagnosed with Schizophrenia. I helped him as much as i could, and for everyone who doesn't know what this is, it's some sort of mental illness that has hallucinations and delusions being some of the main symptoms.

The word leaked out and for some reason he was bullied. It was apalling that these people didn't know what an unstable condition my friend was in. He eventually cracked or something, and spent a while in some mental places. I couldn't believe it, we're still friends and i think he's still on medication, but i think people in their teens should know about these type of things. Even i was bullied for my physical appearance, as i am white but have vitiligo, the de - pigmentation of the skin, so i have some very white spots on me.

Anyway, thought i'd like to just type that up, but i can't really explain how angry i was when this happened.

~Fire Eagle~
March 12th, 2009, 12:19 PM
The dis advantages I have is ADD, ADHAD, and IED, which makes me a very scary to be around when I'm excited or in a bad mood.

Gymnotide
March 12th, 2009, 12:24 PM
The dis advantages I have is ADD, ADHAD, and IED, which makes me a very scary to be around when I'm excited or in a bad mood.

Well, ADD doesn't exist anymore.
And that's probably a typo of ADHD.

Did you actually get diagnosed for them, or did you just read Wikipedia and decide you had these disorders?

~Fire Eagle~
March 12th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Well, I got diagnosed with them because they never let me see my medical report but I did see it and the report said that I had them.

EDIT: I highly agree that ADD does exist in this world.

star88
March 27th, 2009, 08:48 AM
i have resently been told i have a very high chance of been aspergers

Nitrous Oxide
March 27th, 2009, 09:05 AM
ADHD and very mild autism. (Not really skilled socially, I get nervous when talking to anyone who isn't a friend... oh, and I still like Pokemon... and I'm pretty compulsive, but you'd never know I had autism unless I told you. I was diagnosed when I was 4. However, I have an IQ of 130, which is probably why I only have mild autism, or it's just not as apparent or whatever... My ADHD is glaringly obvious though. When I'm not on my meds, I can't focus on anything and I'm annoying as hell to be around.)

xMeowthz
April 9th, 2009, 12:48 PM
I have Aspergers, so I can be annoying. When my mind gets to something, it stays to it.

Vie
April 10th, 2009, 12:06 AM
we have read a book about a boy with asperger syndrome at school (the curious incident of the dog in the night time) and it was very interesting to see the world from that point of view. I do not think that these illnesses are really a disadvantage, because people with it mostly have a special talent and I do not think that it is a bad thing when you are not able to lie or just say what you think. [my opinion]