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skinny_bones4
February 1st, 2009, 06:47 PM
Hey guys. Haha so I have gotten a little bit too happy with this only petition stuff. But I thought I could use it for the greater good. So I made a petition to save the one thing that we all need right now. Our Earth!! And due to global warming, that is threatening that. Now I don't know what everybody's opinion on Global Warming is, but we cannot deny the fact that the things that we do hurt the environment.
So go to http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/savetheearth4/ and sign it. And all you have to do is pledge to make the world a better place to live, and to show the government that we care. You don't have to register to sign it. And all you have to do is give your first and last name and email. And when you sign you will receive a thank you email. An online petition may not help alot, but it will show that we all want to stand together and defend what we all love.
So I hope we get loads of signatures and I hope we can make the world a better place to live in!!
This is a thread to talk about the topic and to announce if you have signed. Thanks!!

February 1st, 2009, 06:52 PM
Anyone who says that Global Warming isn't happening is a living, breathing idiot; however, why exactly do we care about the Earth? A little flooding won't kill all life as we know it (an economic crisis is all), and our children's children will be gone long before any of this means anything truely severe...

Cassino
February 1st, 2009, 07:11 PM
In brief summary, this warm-up is mostly natural.

Dry air contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
No way we're going to match young Earth's 60%, and yes, life was abundant then.

Anti
February 1st, 2009, 07:52 PM
Anyone who says that Global Warming isn't happening is a living, breathing idiot; however, why exactly do we care about the Earth? A little flooding won't kill all life as we know it (an economic crisis is all), and our children's children will be gone long before any of this means anything truely severe...

Whoa, a very large majority of the world's population is threatened by flooding by living in low-lying areas and being vulnerable to flooding in general. Don't underestimate what millions of climate refugees would do to the world's stability if the situation were ever to get that severe, and yes, it would likely be millions.

It's tough to map out the severity of this kind of thing, but seriously, I don't want all of the Midwestern farms to flood (like they did this summer, and being an Ohioan I can tell you that the site was not pretty) or to have Lower Manhattan underwater.

I'm not saying this is all going to happen soon and it will destroy the world, but its effect, if it were to happen, would likely be much larger than you think.

♣Gawain♣
February 1st, 2009, 10:49 PM
If you ask me, if this global warming ain't gonna stop, polar ice caps will melt, changing the ocean currents totally and also the climate. If you watch the documentary "Truth Unconventional Truth"(I think that's the title) and The Day After Tomorrow, you'll know what will happen.

Anti
February 1st, 2009, 11:10 PM
If you ask me, if this global warming ain't gonna stop, polar ice caps will melt, changing the ocean currents totally and also the climate. If you watch the documentary "Truth Unconventional Truth"(I think that's the title) and The Day After Tomorrow, you'll know what will happen.

You mean "The Inconvenient Truth".

But The Day After Tomorrow has so many scientific inaccuracies I could fill the whole page with them. The sea levels in New York can't get that high without the polar ice sheets basically giving out entirely, and the eye of the storm of the "snow hurricanes" would actually warm the ground below it since the upper troposphere has warn air. There are like, eight tornadoes in a football field's radius in Las Angeles...don't take it seriously, lol.

Al Gore's movie is largely science - The Day After Tomorrow is complete and utter fiction and honestly only saved by its special effects, but that's another issue entirely.

I believe global warming is real and I sure think it could be troublesome, maybe even in the near future, but at the same time, I'm not going to act like it's going to end the world by literally freezing over all of Europe, the Middle East, Northern Asia, and The USA & Canada (that's a Day After Tomorrow reference for those who don't know).

You can't blow this out of proportion. It's a problem, but it can be solved (though I personally doubt we'll take those necessary steps until it's "too late") and it can't be overblown. Otherwise the denial machine will point to "greedy *insert group of people here*" and that whole debate will fly out of control.

Horizon
February 1st, 2009, 11:31 PM
Global Warming is happening, of course. But as has been said, it is a natural process. Mankind is contribnuting, but only on an extremely minute level. No matter what we do, it's still going to happen.

That's why all this "green" stuff annoys me slightly, and I'm almost getting to the point of calling it mere propaganda.

That's just my opinion.

♣Gawain♣
February 1st, 2009, 11:33 PM
I haven't seen that documentary for a long time and I forgot the title.

What I mean is that the balance of the world will be disrupted if we continue to dump toxic chemicals into the atmosphere, sea, land etc. The effects will be similar to the movie(except the icy hurricane thingy, which is quite impossible), full of catastrophe.

Anti
February 2nd, 2009, 12:14 AM
I haven't seen that documentary for a long time and I forgot the title.

What I mean is that the balance of the world will be disrupted if we continue to dump toxic chemicals into the atmosphere, sea, land etc. The effects will be similar to the movie(except the icy hurricane thingy, which is quite impossible), full of catastrophe.

Well pretty much all of the movie is impossible/EXTREMELY unlikely. The effects might be similar but nowhere near as catastrophic seeing as the United States was completely abandoned.

But I actually like the "going green" thing since it raises awareness and is usually helpful, and taking care of our planet is ALWAYS good, global warming or not. going all doomsday on us kind of bugs me though, since not going green =/= Armageddon...it could, but ugh, I'm so sick of this "it's the end of the world!" stuff as it is, lol.

>Feelings<
February 2nd, 2009, 02:34 AM
I was worried about global warming from even five years before all these signs of global warming started showing up.
I used to tell a lot of people about this, but nobody cared.

Now, I don't want to write an essay on global warming here, cause I actually can easily do that, and also since I hope you all know what global warming is and care about it.

Aurafire
February 2nd, 2009, 04:29 AM
Yeah...All this man-made global warming stuff is a bunch of crap. I really need someone to explain to me how humans are contributing the destruction of the earth's environment when, as Cassino already said, carbon dioxide makes up such a minute fraction of the atmosphere. It just isn't logical to assume that any amount of carbon dioxide we shove into the atmosphere is going to have a noticeable effect. =/

♣Gawain♣
February 2nd, 2009, 08:12 AM
I was worried about global warming from even five years before all these signs of global warming started showing up.
I used to tell a lot of people about this, but nobody cared.

Now, I don't want to write an essay on global warming here, cause I actually can easily do that, and also since I hope you all know what global warming is and care about it.

Say as me. Many people here burns rubber, and they think it's okay. They didn't even mind the acrid odor! I told them that's harming the environment and it's illegal. Instead they snob me off.

wakachamo
February 2nd, 2009, 08:14 AM
If you ask me, if this global warming ain't gonna stop, polar ice caps will melt, changing the ocean currents totally and also the climate. If you watch the documentary "Truth Unconventional Truth"(I think that's the title) and The Day After Tomorrow, you'll know what will happen.

So you're suggesting that Earth will cool down and freeze?

Because that makes sense...

Hamako-chan
February 3rd, 2009, 12:35 AM
Actually, his suggesting the world will flood and water levels will be very high and flood all the countries.

Penguin13
February 3rd, 2009, 01:07 AM
Well, instead of paying lip-service to the planet, go out and do something about it. Go recycle, volunteer to clean up a beach, plant trees.. Do something.

Sure we're slowly destroying the planet, but you're not helping much by just sitting on your butt signing an online petition.

El Héroe Oscuro
February 3rd, 2009, 05:54 AM
Well, instead of paying lip-service to the planet, go out and do something about it. Go recycle, volunteer to clean up a beach, plant trees.. Do something.

Sure we're slowly destroying the planet, but you're not helping much by just sitting on your butt signing an online petition.
problem is, people are lazy, and they say they'll do something, but they dont. I'm not saying that all people are lazy, sure there are groups of people trying to save our planet, but the mass majority just watch and let others do all the work

Penguin13
February 3rd, 2009, 09:47 AM
That's what I mean by paying lip service to the earth.

Tokin
February 3rd, 2009, 10:00 AM
in my opinion,it is time to pass from invitations to action to law, just as filters and lead-free fuel are a rule in car exhausts, goverments should start shifting from fuel based cars to a secure way(from the wide variety of now alternate means of powering cars, be it electrical or biodiesel, or hydrogen) it sunds harsh and expensive but honestly, if combating global warming continues to be a "voluntary" thing, then this effort is most likely doomed to failure.

Unforgettable
February 3rd, 2009, 11:42 AM
I'm not worried as much about global warming as other things. Like the amount of litter people throw down, the useless energy we use, etc. Easy ways to counter act this is by picking up trash you see, recycling, using energy efficent items such as lightblubs, turning the lights off, walking or biking when you can, using your own bags instead of plastic at the market, ect. I'm a huge environmental person, so I could go on and on. XD;;

Clairissa
February 3rd, 2009, 12:01 PM
in my opinion,it is time to pass from invitations to action to law, just as filters and lead-free fuel are a rule in car exhausts, goverments should start shifting from fuel based cars to a secure way(from the wide variety of now alternate means of powering cars, be it electrical or biodiesel, or hydrogen) it sunds harsh and expensive but honestly, if combating global warming continues to be a "voluntary" thing, then this effort is most likely doomed to failure.

If you or the government wants to pay for the car I'd gladly accept but I ain't buying a new car on the 'chance' it might save people I'll never know about 100~ years from now...

Gumball Watterson
February 3rd, 2009, 06:17 PM
I think that the Earth is in serious need of saving economically and naturally. Of course we shall do something about this.

However, as of now I hold no position on the cause, if it is by human causes or natural causes. Either way, conservation and action can still be done.

But right now, my first challenge is to actually get to my parents to even convince them of using the recycle bin @_@.

Artemis
February 3rd, 2009, 06:21 PM
Honestly our earth needs to change, and I blame it on all of us people who live in it, we need to conserve things more often, and try to preserve out land...because if the global warming gets any worse then we might not be able to stop it, but for now, we all have to work together to prevent it from processing any farther! GO GREEN PEOPLe...GO GREEN!!!

HoneyBubbles
February 3rd, 2009, 06:56 PM
I'm convinced that the climate change is more natural then manmade, but energy conservation never hurt.
I agree with Unforgettable. I'm more concerned with litter and such than Global warming.

Tokin
February 3rd, 2009, 07:42 PM
If you or the government wants to pay for the car I'd gladly accept but I ain't buying a new car on the 'chance' it might save people I'll never know about 100~ years from now...
that was an example, but I sustain that if the government was to enforce certain environmental regulations, such as bio degradable products, no more supermarket bags(certain stores in my country don't manage them anymore, mind you they are successful ones) the overall result of this effort would be greatly improved

s0nido
February 4th, 2009, 03:25 AM
I think global warming has gone too far for us to do anything significant about it. But we can halt our emission levels from rising, in order to prevent the situation from getting worse. To eradicate the problem completely would require a lot of high-tech machines and an instant water freezer.

Eon-Rider
February 4th, 2009, 04:05 AM
I do agree that the Earth is becoming polluted and needs to be restored to it's former self but an internet petition is an idiotic way of doing it. The idea of petitioning to save the Earth is even worse than petitioning for a G/S remake (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=161982). Who is this petition directed at? Please learn what a petition is for.

s0nido
February 4th, 2009, 12:16 PM
I do agree that the Earth is becoming polluted and needs to be restored to it's former self but an internet petition is an idiotic way of doing it.

True. It's kinda stupid to petition when the people who made it have no idea who it will be sent to. I remember this kid sent me a petition saying that if we care about the people of Gaza who are suffering, sign it. I deleted it, mainly because I don't have to sign a stupid email to say that I care. It's just a waste of time signing petitions like these when they aren't going to help.

Metatron
February 5th, 2009, 09:13 AM
Save Da Urf.

Yeah, I signed the petition. I'm not really too sure what you're hoping to accomplish through all of this, though. I mean...I doubt an online petition will really do all that much =/

Tokin
February 5th, 2009, 09:53 AM
An online petition? as if the authorities were actually denying saving the earth?, the are many factors involved here, we have to consider the advantages and disadvantages of going green, personally, I think investing in green technologies is a good investment for the future, but a risky one since we have to mind the current economical situation, as I said before, enforcing some ecological conscience and certain small actions is a good start, but as for larger things... this is a subject of debate all over governments, and such an uninformed petition won't make things better or faster with taking these decisions

the bitter end.
February 5th, 2009, 11:27 AM
OF course it's happening, but we can't do anything about it. It's inevitable.

Gengarchomp
February 5th, 2009, 03:26 PM
I believe that Global Warming is a natural cycle. How else could the Vikings plant and grow grapes in northern Canada? Here's a graph showing past heating and cooling trends: http://www.globalwarminglies.com/pics/temperature%20history.jpg. The main reason why scientists keep supporting it is because that is where the money is. Why give up millions in research grants just to tell the truth?

Shikon no Tama
February 5th, 2009, 03:44 PM
Global warming is something natural that happens, but we've only made it a disaster.

At the rate pollution is going, our grand-kids are the ones who'll suffer. We can't really stop global warming, since that's what naturally occurs, but we could at least slow it down. That's what scientists and those recycling bins are for.

But well... I doubt an online petition is going to do anything. I mean, if everyone who signed donated a few spare dollars, and the money went to some research lab, then it'd help, but... yeah. People aren't too willing to part with hard earned dollars.