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lolwut
April 1st, 2009, 10:25 AM
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Venusaur
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Gyarados
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Pikachu
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Aerodactyl
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Snorlax
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Thats my plan for a fire red team, i dont have any idea for movesets yet, im making a mock-up pokemon special "red" team. Anyone who sees this just say yay or nay and maybe if you have the time then help me with a moveset. And if you guys don't like that one, heres another choice:
Dragonite
Golbat (then crobat after nat. dex)
Charizard
Poliwrath
Jolteon
Nidoking

oh and btw don't say anything works ingame because im planning on using this for pokemon fire red ingame then trading to emerald to dominate the battle frontier then migrating to diamond.

JollyRoger25
April 1st, 2009, 11:33 AM
I see only one problem with your team, Aerodactyl is only obtainable so late in the game, I hope you have a backup to compisate.

lolwut
April 1st, 2009, 11:37 AM
I see only one problem with your team, Aerodactyl is only obtainable so late in the game, I hope you have a backup to compisate.
um actually aerodactyl is obtainable moderately early if you're smart ;) haha, as soon as i get to celadon, i get the tea,then get to fushcia then just go to the safari zone before even the 4th badge, get surf, then i get the 4th and 5th badge and surf to cinnabar from pallet town and get aerodactly earlier then usual so ill have it by the time im at the 6th badge and before silph co and everything.

Formula380
April 1st, 2009, 04:41 PM
You have some electric weaknesses, but I guess Venasaur should take care of that. (Is Areodactyl resistent to electric or no?)

lolwut
April 1st, 2009, 05:44 PM
You have some electric weaknesses, but I guess Venasaur should take care of that. (Is Areodactyl resistent to electric or no?)

im not sure, i think it might just do 1x damage seeing how aerodactyl is rock and flying

syphilis
April 1st, 2009, 06:10 PM
it'll do 2x to aerodactyl since rock isn't resistant to electricity, just ground.

aside from the weaknesses to electric attacks, it's a solid "red" team :D

lolwut
April 1st, 2009, 06:15 PM
Im sure ill be fine with being weak to electric, there arent many electric types in fire red other then surges gym and at that time ill at least have an ivysaur which is resistant to electric so after that gym everything else will be easy

arghhh i just realized i have no one to beat erika with.

JollyRoger25
April 1st, 2009, 07:58 PM
Yeah, hey!!!!! No fire, just swap out one of your Waters for one.

BenjiTheKid
April 2nd, 2009, 11:09 AM
Your first team has no fire and two waters. I'd swap a water for a fire. Then again, I like having a variety of Pokemon. xD

Other than that, your team is pretty awesome. I like the first better because of Pikachu. Though, I'd evolve Pikachu if I were you... because, I find Pikachu's stats to be... well... not that good. At the same time, however, I have beat Red and Blue with a Pikachu in my party. And Yellow, too, of course.

lolwut
April 2nd, 2009, 11:50 AM
if you guys havent noticed im trying to make a team that is an exact copy of "red" from pokemon special, so i dont want to switch the members at all other then i was maybe asking if anyone had any ideas for movesets that i could add so that i could beat grass types. OR theres the option of just picking the second team. WAIT. I have an idea lol. I could get a fearow or golbat until i can get an aerodactyl? How's that sound

Formula380
April 2nd, 2009, 12:07 PM
I could get a fearow or golbat until i can get an aerodactyl? How's that sound

That sounds good Slowpokez. I would go with a Fearow though because Golbat doesn't get good till later and your just going to replace it anyways

.EJ
April 2nd, 2009, 12:37 PM
lol flappy^

Aside from half the first team being weak to electric, you're fine. There aren't that many electric types as said before.

Skaterzpenguin
April 2nd, 2009, 01:04 PM
You have 3 pokemon that are weak to Electric, so I suggest get rid of 1 water pokemon and add a psychic type like alakazam or maybe an Hypno. Otherwise watch out for there weaknesses. ;]

lolwut
April 2nd, 2009, 02:24 PM
yeah im not going to change anyone other then aerodactyl only temporary until i can get him. So ill get a fearow or a Golbat, just until the 4th gym and then ill be able to get aerodactyl. Let's just hope that i have the patience to train snorlax. He takes forever to gain levels.

anyone else have an opinion?

shanecdavis
April 3rd, 2009, 05:34 PM
Suggestions and comments in bold:
Poliwrath
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Brick Break
- Bulk Up/Belly Drum
- Hypnosis/Ice Beam
- Surf

Definite weakness to your team. If there is ANY way you can drop this subpar Pokemon, I would HIGHLY suggest it. Bad stats and bad movepool.

Venusaur
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Razor Leaf
- Sleep Powder/Leech Seed
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis

The best starter of FRLG. Sad it cannot learn Leaf Blade, but this thing handles Water-types very easily and Sleep Powder can come in pretty handy.

Gyarados

Meh. This just isn't a good in-game Pokemon, especially on this team. Bad base SAtk and limited movepool. As with Poliwrath, if there is ANY way you can switch this thing out, DO IT. I highly suggest using Dragonite instead.


Raichu
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Pretty solid in-game Pokemon, and this moveset really takes advantage of the brainless AI that routinely attack with non-damaging moves that allow your Sub to stick. Then it is sweep ftw.

Aerodactyl
Trait: Rock Head
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

Pretty self-explanatory. Remember that Rock Head prevents Double-Edged from dealing recoil damage.

Snorlax
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Body Slam/Return
- Curse/Earthquake
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Absolute in-game beast. Don't necessarily need the Curse set up, but it really makes this thing unbeatable.
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Thats my plan for a fire red team, i dont have any idea for movesets yet, im making a mock-up pokemon special "red" team. Anyone who sees this just say yay or nay and maybe if you have the time then help me with a moveset. And if you guys don't like that one, heres another choice:
Dragonite
Golbat (then crobat after nat. dex)
Charizard
Poliwrath
Jolteon
Nidoking

oh and btw don't say anything works ingame because im planning on using this for pokemon fire red ingame then trading to emerald to dominate the battle frontier then migrating to diamond.
If you are open to suggestions, I would go with Dragonite over Gyarados, Jolteon over Raichu, and then give Sub/Punch to Poliwrath.

Good luck.

lolwut
April 3rd, 2009, 05:59 PM
Suggestions and comments in bold:

If you are open to suggestions, I would go with Dragonite over Gyarados, Jolteon over Raichu, and then give Sub/Punch to Poliwrath.

Good luck.

I would swap it out for dragonite but i was kinda really hoping for a mock-up "red" pokemon special team, i was planning on training them all to level 100 and giving them the best movesets and everything.Your movesets sound good and ill most likely use them all, but one question, where can i get substitute in fire red and what about focus punch

shanecdavis
April 4th, 2009, 05:15 AM
Substitute: Fuchsia City, Move Tutor northwest of the Pokemon Center
Focus Punch: Saffron City, TM01 in Silph Co.

Feel free to use your team as is. Gyarados just really doesn't help much. Both it and Absol are some of the few Pokemon that benefit from the DPP metagame.

pokerus34
April 4th, 2009, 11:40 PM
It's your choice...

Just remember 3 things:

*Balance is the Key
*Remember Weakness and Resistance
*Each Pokemon has its Specialty

Your team is so far so Good. ;)

giradialkia
April 6th, 2009, 10:37 AM
Yeah, i'm always doing this in Pearl- have a PC box specially named ''Manga''. Have them all done, actually, even the DPP teams, so far, anyways. It's fun, i even give them the nicknames...

-Leaf
April 6th, 2009, 01:57 PM
Hmm.. major ice weakness. venasour is weak to ice, gyra is 4x and aero is 4x too.. but since ice types are the least type seen in the games..

Ŧøry vs. M£A†¥³
April 6th, 2009, 02:16 PM
Raikou@Leftovers
Timid Nature
~ Substitute
~ Calm Mind
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden Power [Ice]

This will defeat your whole team, this can even defeat Aerodactyl if Raikou is already in Substitute. I would go for the Choice Band for Aerodactyl.

lolwut
April 6th, 2009, 04:26 PM
yes it could but do i see a raikou in the battle frontier in emerald or in fire red? (with that moveset) and since im not using legendaries i wouldn't battle against people with legendaries and actually depending on how i fight then my snorlax might be able to take it out

shanecdavis
April 6th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Yes, you will fight Raikou in the Battle Frontier, but it certainly won't have that moveset. You are also correct that Snorlax could move in on Raikou and wipe it out before it could do much of anything. To be honest, I wouldn't expect to be very successful in the BF with the team as you have it. Novelty teams can be fun against the pathetically weak in-game AI, but the BF is a bit different.

lolwut
April 6th, 2009, 06:54 PM
well im still probably going to use this team since im pretty determined but say if i wasnt, what like exactly could i change that would make a suitable team for the BF, i know you made a few suggestions up there but im saying like perfect team for the battle frontier because i might just be able to make one now on my current save file since im trying to complete the pokedex anyways.