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JBCBlank
April 7th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Has anyone else had any or all of their good videos distorted by You-tube? be it muted or deleted completely?

I have one that is banned in some countries. and all but 3 are muted.

This has me super Pissed! Honestly! who is the Fing whistle blower?! WTF gives a flying F!

I for one would like to know and kill them, slowly!

who else?

Mitchman
April 7th, 2009, 10:15 PM
I chuckled. Its called copyright issues my friend and there is nothing we can do about it.

JBCBlank
April 7th, 2009, 10:17 PM
I chuckled. Its called copyright issues my friend and there is nothing we can do about it.

Dude... are you fallowing me or something? I see you where ever i am.

EmeraldSky
April 7th, 2009, 10:18 PM
I have had an episode of a game walkthrough pulled because Sony claimed a Nintendo product. (the episode in question being an episode of Super Mario RPG) Furthermore, I didn't even mix in new music--it was the existing music in game.

Glitchfinder
April 8th, 2009, 03:04 AM
You know, I don't see what the problem is. If you don't upload something that people are likely to want pulled, you won't have any problems. e.g., I've only uploaded videos of games that are no longer supported by their copyright holders, videos of games who'se owners do little to nothing in the way of having them removed from Youtube, anime from defunct companies where copyright owership is murky, and anime from companies who do little to nothing in the way of having them removed from youtube. (Plus, I avoid posting episodes and stick ot eh OP and end) I also don't upload music tracks. The real question should be why Youtube has never removed a single video I reported because they linked people to keygens for various programs.

wee187
April 8th, 2009, 03:08 AM
YES, around 9 of my videos are muted, 80% of them being FFXII AASNG videos. It gets meh angry. >:(

Most of my vids are okay though. ^_^ And I disputed a claim once which actually did work.

Cassino
April 8th, 2009, 01:21 PM
Youtube was originally set up as a video tube site about you, i.e. the user, on which to post home videos.
I now refer you to Todoroki Is' post.

Eon-Rider
April 8th, 2009, 01:55 PM
I haven't had any problems because none of my videos actually have any copyrighted content.

Forci Stikane
April 8th, 2009, 05:56 PM
Thankfully, I have pretty much been "lucky" enough to avoid having any of my videos removed...even though I honestly have no idea why they would be, or why YouTube would even bother. I can think of a few people I know, though, whose videos have been taken down or muted for the strangest reasons.

Still, it never hurts to be prepared, which is why I never delete any of the actual video files in case I need to upload them again.

Mitchman
April 8th, 2009, 06:02 PM
Dude... are you fallowing me or something? I see you where ever i am.
I have been here for only a year now with over 4000 posts. I would think that means I am all over the place. But anyway as stated it was originally for use as an online video source but now its an unbearable minefield of mudkipz sparta over 9000 and internet memes. Oh and lets not forget bad music videos and stupid teens doin stupid stuff on the internet. Oh how quality has declined in the years that have passed. Anyway its just a matter of copyright isssues. but you know copyright issues are silly who needs laws right? Wrong! I for one am in favor of youtube doing this. Maybe now youtube can have quality again.

Neko64
April 8th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Yeah I've had the one video I had up on YouTube deleted. I will admit it made me upset, but as stated before there's nothing I can do about it except waste my own time complaining, which I rather wouldn't do...

this_is_ark
April 8th, 2009, 06:44 PM
You know, I don't see what the problem is. If you don't upload something that people are likely to want pulled, you won't have any problems.
um honestly what's the point in having a site to view videos when videos are removed constantly? o.o

besides, "user generated content" is really boring. i DON'T want to see 5 girls doing the caramelldansen in their livingroom, thanks! and don't get me started on "amvs"


anyway, the ending to a movie i uploaded was muted because the song in the credits infringed rights. i edited it to remove the credits and they left the video alone

Banjora Marxvile
April 8th, 2009, 06:49 PM
Actually, only if what you put on are on DVD's or CD's that can be bought would be pulled. I discovered this, as Youtube user Trippynet has uploaded all of the episodes of Have I Got News For You that aren't on DVD, and he's fine.

this_is_ark
April 8th, 2009, 07:04 PM
it still seems incredibly dumb :( putting a price on the internet

all the things i've uploaded are from my dvds and cds exactly. if i own it, i should be able to let anyone i want see it ;-;

Mitchman
April 8th, 2009, 07:15 PM
No you shouldn't. I for one hate youtube for that reason. If you are an artist of music or television or movies youtube is your enemy. Immoral idiots that post music or videos give an open free source to people to listen or view such things. Through that they say screw it why pay for it when I have it for free on the internet! Which helps in denting wallets and such. Sure it might not seem so but youtube is what makes me hate the internet. I mean its much more satisfactional to save up here and there and then go buy the CD of your favorite band or the dvd of your loved movies. Call me nuts but I just think like that. And while yes I do have music off the internet and such(who doesnt?) I am one of the few who at least is smart enough to go buy the damn thing.

this_is_ark
April 8th, 2009, 07:20 PM
long post eh o.o

and um, i enjoy buying things too, but if i bought i, i therefore should have a right to share it? if people want to be lazy and download several hours worth of anime for free, then let them do it

Forci Stikane
April 8th, 2009, 07:25 PM
No you shouldn't. I for one hate youtube for that reason. If you are an artist of music or television or movies youtube is your enemy. Immoral idiots that post music or videos give an open free source to people to listen or view such things. Through that they say screw it why pay for it when I have it for free on the internet! Which helps in denting wallets and such. Sure it might not seem so but youtube is what makes me hate the internet. I mean its much more satisfactional to save up here and there and then go buy the CD of your favorite band or the dvd of your loved movies. Call me nuts but I just think like that. And while yes I do have music off the internet and such(who doesnt?) I am one of the few who at least is smart enough to go buy the damn thing.

What of videos of people playing video games, then? The video is actually of something that the uploader himself/herself has done and thus owns the rights to, yet there are people in the world who will easily settle for only watching a playthrough of a game and refuse to pay any money for it because of that. Do you believe that those videos should be taken down because of it, despite the skill or technique shown in the video usually belonging to the actual user?

Mitchman
April 8th, 2009, 07:29 PM
No I support those. Cause people would go out and by the game if it seems good enough.

this_is_ark
April 8th, 2009, 07:57 PM
um but forci stikane just said some people rather watch the playthroughs than bother paying for it

Cassino
April 8th, 2009, 09:09 PM
What of videos of people playing video games, then? The video is actually of something that the uploader himself/herself has done and thus owns the rights to, yet there are people in the world who will easily settle for only watching a playthrough of a game and refuse to pay any money for it because of that. Do you believe that those videos should be taken down because of it, despite the skill or technique shown in the video usually belonging to the actual user?
They may own their gameplay but not the game they are playing, so it is still disputable by the copyright holder.

JBCBlank
April 9th, 2009, 12:36 AM
all you're arguments I find both stupid and not worth the time it took me to read them.

Todoroki Is: What you say is exactly what the whistle blowers are saying. What is wrong with watching someone doing it, just don't put up what they did without them in it. Um, well... other then the fact that it is boring as hell....? Nope only reason. And as for internet laws, come on man.. there aren't any, that is just some snow-baller's way to push some more limitations down our throats! I mean if you want to get down to all that copyright junk, then maybe 80% of PC should be put in Jail for having banners that do not have characters made by them. But you know what, we aren't going to jail because that is just stupid. Pictures are pictures, Music on fan-made AMV's is called free advertisement, it's not like the singers or the writers get enough money from the record companies anyway.
I mean dude, they want to toss us into jail for having our car radios on to loud. Honestly, WTF is up whit that?!
So I say, download and share my brothers, File-sharing is not illegal! so neither is sharing the Videos we work on for 3 hours.
The RIAA can kiss my smooth bronzed butt!
I am not buying any CD's if I like I song, I'm getting it from the guy I heard it from.
If I like a movie, I'm borrowing it from my friends.

WTH would you want to buy a game, or read a book if someone already showed you how it went from beginning to end? That is just lazy.
If you see something, and you like it, download it... play/read/watch/listen to it. and if you really like it. Share it my brothers. Share it with the world. And then, later, use the video/song to make a tribute to how much you liked it. Tell the world that you love them, and trust me... that is all it will takes for the god damn ratings to go sky high, and they will win a people's choice award.... and they will be happy. And the Record companies... will be very sad...
And that my friends, is how it should be.

I would rather see the artists, selling their own stuff. On a pay what you want basis.
RadioHead kicks so much patuty for that.
Don't deal with companies... they make the fans loose interest in you.

There I am spent. for the time being.

Ninja Tree
April 9th, 2009, 12:39 AM
Dude... are you fallowing me or something? I see you where ever i am.
He's got a good point. Read the rules whenever you join a site and you can avoid this. It's not their fault. It's yours.

And I think posting in every thread you do is a good idea.

JBCBlank
April 9th, 2009, 12:41 AM
Listen people, I am not spending 30 bucks on an Iron Maiden CD. and I love Iron Maiden alright I can not deny that I would marry those guys if I could. But 30 bucks..... F that! I could use that money to buy much better stuff. honestly! 30! WTF!

Ninja Tree
April 9th, 2009, 12:42 AM
Listen people, I am not spending 30 bucks on an Iron Maiden CD. and I love Iron Maiden alright I can not deny that I would marry those guys if I could. But 30 bucks..... F that! I could use that money to buy much better stuff. honestly! 30! WTF!
What? So you'd rather be immoral and break the law? Good plan. Seems to have worked so far.

JBCBlank
April 9th, 2009, 12:47 AM
It has actually.

But say what you want about me dude. You could never understand. You are probably one of those people that sees a CD they like and cares not what it costs you just buy it huh?

Ninja Tree
April 9th, 2009, 12:50 AM
It has actually.

But say what you want about me dude. You could never understand. You are probably one of those people that sees a CD they like and cares not what it costs you just buy it huh?
You are probably one who doesn't understand businesses need money to stay afloat. Then go and not buy CDs thinking that it's beneficial. They wouldn't even be able to release songs if everyone was like you.

JBCBlank
April 9th, 2009, 12:55 AM
Sure they would, Radiohead does. Besides man, when people love your music that is all that matters to an artist. it is only Record companies that want money. They don't need it. They keep 70% of the profit anyway...
That is injustice.
I remember back when CD's first came out, that they said that by now they would be 5 or 2 DLLS american.. but instead the price just keeps going up.
I prefer Amateur-Porno-Gore bands. They release stuff onto the internet. They don't care about CD sales, they get money by doing concerts. And trust me... their concerts... sell out... all the time.

True Reign
April 9th, 2009, 01:43 AM
It's called copyright claims, and I have no problem with them. Although I have been annoyed since they took off some of my favorite songs and some gaming walkthroughs, but since then, I have found another resource through Google.
It has actually.

But say what you want about me dude. You could never understand. You are probably one of those people that sees a CD they like and cares not what it costs you just buy it huh?
You're the author of this thread right? Then post you're opinion in the first post and get the hell out of this thread. You comment on every single comment you disliked. It as okay for the first time, but now it seems like you're either trolling for some posts or just being an idiot.

I'll have to say you're being an idiot and making it worst for yourself.

Glitchfinder
April 9th, 2009, 04:40 AM
all you're arguments I find both stupid and not worth the time it took me to read them.

Todoroki Is: What you say is exactly what the whistle blowers are saying. What is wrong with watching someone doing it, just don't put up what they did without them in it. Um, well... other then the fact that it is boring as hell....? Nope only reason. And as for internet laws, come on man.. there aren't any, that is just some snow-baller's way to push some more limitations down our throats! I mean if you want to get down to all that copyright junk, then maybe 80% of PC should be put in Jail for having banners that do not have characters made by them. But you know what, we aren't going to jail because that is just stupid. Pictures are pictures, Music on fan-made AMV's is called free advertisement, it's not like the singers or the writers get enough money from the record companies anyway.
I mean dude, they want to toss us into jail for having our car radios on to loud. Honestly, WTF is up whit that?!
So I say, download and share my brothers, File-sharing is not illegal! so neither is sharing the Videos we work on for 3 hours.
The RIAA can kiss my smooth bronzed butt!
I am not buying any CD's if I like I song, I'm getting it from the guy I heard it from.
If I like a movie, I'm borrowing it from my friends.

WTH would you want to buy a game, or read a book if someone already showed you how it went from beginning to end? That is just lazy.
If you see something, and you like it, download it... play/read/watch/listen to it. and if you really like it. Share it my brothers. Share it with the world. And then, later, use the video/song to make a tribute to how much you liked it. Tell the world that you love them, and trust me... that is all it will takes for the god damn ratings to go sky high, and they will win a people's choice award.... and they will be happy. And the Record companies... will be very sad...
And that my friends, is how it should be.

I would rather see the artists, selling their own stuff. On a pay what you want basis.
RadioHead kicks so much patuty for that.
Don't deal with companies... they make the fans loose interest in you.

There I am spent. for the time being.


You obviously have no concept of economics. Although the music artists may get pennies, the record labels are the ones who fund the equipment, recording, and advertising, not to mention the manufacturing and distributing of CDs, DVDs, and whatever else you might want. If the record labels or movie studios go out of business, you are out of luck. It is because of people like you that smaller companies are going out of business. It is because of people like you that we get copy prtection on DVDs that makes it difficult to rip them to a computer. It is because of people like you that places like Amazon music downloads lock music tracks to the computer that they were purchased from. In other words, it is because of people like you, who circumvent laws like these, that sites like Youtube have to do this in the first place. Yes, that music was cool while it was on youtube, but every time you watched it there, you cost the record company and the artist a little more money that could have been used to create even more great music. Yes, that DVD may look nice when you download it from a file sharing website, but it doesn't look so nice when you get a cease and desist order from the national government. (They actually do monitor those sites, btw. I have several friends who have recieved such letters, listing every illegal download they had made within the last two years) Not to mention what will happen if the police ever have a reason to look at your computer. You have a fine of up to $10,000, plus jail time if they convict you of that. Is that worth not paying a little bit for a music album or DVD? And, by copyright laws, if you share something you legallypurchased, you get an even higher fine. Youtube is letting you guys off easy. They could just as easily be reporting you to the feds and letting them haul you guys off to court.

It has actually.

But say what you want about me dude. You could never understand. You are probably one of those people that sees a CD they like and cares not what it costs you just buy it huh?

Actually, most of us care quite a bit about what the CDs cost. Unlike you, we actually either earn or save up the money we use to buy the Cd. We understand the value of a dollar, and we understand that when something is worth the money we pay, it is worth the money we pay. As I said, by not buying the CDs, you not only break Federal and international laws and treaties, but you also cost the record labels money that they could have used to release even more good music that would be worth buying. If you don't think that the music is worth paying for, you are either an immature child regarding how you handle money, or you shouldn't be listening to the music, because it obviously isn't worth your valuable time either.

I apologize if this came off as harsh, but the copyright laws are there for a reason. How would you like it if your company was going out of business because your products were being pirated more than bought? How would you like it if someone could use anything you owned, without your permission, and without paying you a cent?

twocows
April 9th, 2009, 06:16 AM
Basically, the way it works is if a company claims copyright infringement on any video, YouTube will take it down to avoid possible legal action, even if it's clearly not copyright infringement. Basically, they're not going to go to court just so your video can stay up; that doesn't make practical business sense, and YouTube is already losing money (their bandwidth costs alone are $1 million daily).

On the other hand, since YouTube is hemorrhaging money, they're scrambling to get the sort of content that Hulu has (in other words, television shows, movies, and anime). Guess they finally discovered that more people want to watch Code Geass (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BCB175E6E210BB66) (legal link, for the record; it's Bandai's YT channel) than a video of a skateboarding dog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0) (though in this case, I guess the view counts suggest otherwise).

Glitchfinder
April 9th, 2009, 07:05 AM
Basically, the way it works is if a company claims copyright infringement on any video, YouTube will take it down to avoid possible legal action, even if it's clearly not copyright infringement. Basically, they're not going to go to court just so your video can stay up; that doesn't make practical business sense, and YouTube is already losing money (their bandwidth costs alone are $1 million daily).

On the other hand, since YouTube is hemorrhaging money, they're scrambling to get the sort of content that Hulu has (in other words, television shows, movies, and anime). Guess they finally discovered that more people want to watch Code Geass (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BCB175E6E210BB66) (legal link, for the record; it's Bandai's YT channel) than a video of a skateboarding dog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0) (though in this case, I guess the view counts suggest otherwise).

Actually, that's a good point. With Youtube offering higher quality, there are more and more official videos on Youtube, and there will be less need to have something removed in the first place.

Akeraz
April 9th, 2009, 09:57 AM
I've never had anything removed.
I do pokemon videos on youtube..
And I credit nintendo in my video description.
Also, I talk over my videos.
Nintendo can Hardly claim copyright over my voice.

wee187
April 9th, 2009, 10:01 AM
Well it's still annoying, especially with the recent muting of AMV's... some that my friends on yt and I work hard on, it's annoying. >_<

Mitchman
April 9th, 2009, 11:38 AM
It has actually.

But say what you want about me dude. You could never understand. You are probably one of those people that sees a CD they like and cares not what it costs you just buy it huh?
Then there are those of us who live in a country where it costs less. Like me for example the most a Maiden CD will cost is 15 euros and the most for a 'tallica CD is 20 euros. So to get full discographies for such bands the top price would be say 200-250 euros. And there is a thing called saving up like mentioned. But yeah hopefully youtube does see that high quality videos will change things.

Zennerick
April 10th, 2009, 01:21 AM
I've known they have been muting and deleting videos. It''s just that I never uploaded any videos. I can't thing of anything to upload...

...So I guess I will vote "No, they haven't found me yet."

Capt. Couch
April 10th, 2009, 01:30 AM
I find it funny how this topic has changed from the muting of YouTube videos to Internet file sharing.

No, none of my videos have been muted yet. I do have one video that has been flagged for possible copyright infringement but the copyright holder does not mind much at all.