Photograph of the ????

[Comic Tragedy]

Photograph of the ????
Discussion Thread

Like it's signature producing counterpart this thread is for discussing the (creation of a) photograph competition in this section.

Things we need to think about include:

The frequency of this competition
Rules (clone copy of signature of the week?)
And whatever else you can think of


I guess we can discuss now! XD

[Counterfeit]

I'd prefer weekly myself, I think that's plenty of time to be able to set up and shoot a photo.

However POTFuN does have a nice ring to it. xD

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zno1vb.jpg

[True Reign]

Weekly sounds good. It shouldn't take a month or so just to take a picture and take five minutes to strengthen the resolution in Photoshop or something.

Rules

No stealing of pictures!
Don't be rude.
Be respectful.

Just some key rules right there.

[Tiny]

think it should be weekly
and unlike tags i think the photos should be uploaded to deviant art and linked from there preferably
im pretty sure most of you have one
just my opinion

[Gummy]

This is up faster than I expected. We need some very specific rules on how much we can Photoshop the pictures.

[Comic Tragedy]

This is what I came up with for editing rules.


do not add anything to you're picture
try to keep actual editing to small touchups (lens dust problems, etc.)
try to keep adjustment layers to minimum
you may not add aditional lighting (ie. with a brush, or whatever)


Plus, I think it will be really obvious if some stupid kid decides to go all out on photoshop and screw around with his photo. There should be a disqualification rule about that, because sadly I think alot of people would still vote for him/her.

[Counterfeit]

I for one hate deviant art, uploading takes way too long.

Also, you say you can't add anything to your picture but what about my entry for the Doctor Who SoTW?

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5166/doctorwhosotw2sw0.png
Stocks: 1 (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9218/drwho2008s04e08ffmpegheoc6.jpg) 2 (http://i42.tinypic.com/2lniomg.png)

[THIRTY-SIX]

I think that is fine, because you are setting up a shot that you want to fit the theme. .o.'

[Counterfeit]

Should have made that clearer; Didn't mean props, I meant how I changed the cover. Px

[THIRTY-SIX]

Oh that might be a bit iffy, though you could say it shows your enthusiasm for the show. xD

[Graceful]

well i think its totally fine,I like it how you swiched the covers.Very ace for me!

[Gummy]

I think a simple edit like that is pushing the limits, but not exactly breaking them. Maybe we should pick one designated person to review all the entries and decide what breaks the rules and what doesn't.

[THIRTY-SIX]

That's usually done by whoever hosts it and a few well known graphic designers. Was in sotw entry rules last time I read them. xD

SoTW #52 - DOGS (Manga)
The winner of SoTW #50 - Set Stock was Tiny (http://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=126619).
Please congratulate them in their profile rather than flooding this thread.

Description:
Not the animal.

Rules:

Limit: one entry per person.
Your entry must be relevant to the current theme. Myself, and other members of the graphics community will be the judge of how well your entry relates, if ever it's relevancy should come into question.
You may edit your banners once you submit them.
You may not enter if you chose the theme.
All entries must be made during the SoTW time period. Previously made banners will be disqualified.


Good luck to all contestants, and please post any SoTW questions, feedback, etc in the SoTW Discussion Thread (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=129788).

It'd have similar rules.

[Comic Tragedy]

We can basically make a new rule saying esentially the same thing but instead of getting off theme "editing your photo too much".

Or something along those lines XD

[Tiny]

i think the only thing you should be able to do with the photo is edit it with a few adjustments and or make it b/w

putting 2 pictures together shouldnt be allowed

[Comic Tragedy]

We could make a poll! xD

Because polls are always fun...

WEWT 999 posts (1 and 1 half evil)

[True Reign]

Personally, I think we should just take the picture and don't even play with it.

Let the 'original' picture win by itself.

[moments.]

I agree with JD however I like the idea of putting it in black and white using Photoshop.
I think editing should be the very bare minimum. What Josephine did, in my opinion is too much of an edit.

[engage']

Maybe we should restrict edit limits to changing to B&W/Sepia/etc, and Curves and Levels?

And what about a watermark? A small, logo type image somewhere in the corner that doesn't take the focus away from the image?

[THIRTY-SIX]

So when is this going to get started? [/anxious]

[Mr. Epic]

About the rules I would just like to say having no changes to the photo is not a great idea because resizing/scaling maybe important for those who have cameras that take very large pictures, so that I think is a definite exception, apart from that I don't agree with too many effects.

[dolce.]

Maybe you guys should just have it so that all you can do is make color adjustments to the pictures. Oh and resize, like everyone else said...?

And you should put some size restrictions, because my camera's pictures end up being like, 10000 x 10000. :( Just incase there are big, blown up pictures for entries...

[True Reign]

Let's start this in maybe a week or so? That can give us enough time to decide who will host it for the first time, who will make sure each canidate will fit the theme, etc.

[Counterfeit]

...no changes to the photo is not a great idea because resizing/scaling maybe important for those who have cameras that take very large pictures...Oh come on, Nobody's going to disallow re-sizing. T_T

And you should put some size restrictions, because my camera's pictures end up being like, 10000 x 10000. Anyone will half a brain will know to be sensible with the resolution of their photos.

However I suggest that the image you post in the entry thread is also a link to the photo in it's original resolution, that's what I'll be doing.

-;4562296']That can give us enough time to decide who will host it for the first time, who will make sure each canidate will fit the theme, etc.CT's hosting, and is till he decides to throw in the towel.

As for the editing front, I think you guys are being a little strict, simple editing and re-touching should be allowed IMO.

[dolce.]

What if there are people with less than half a brain though? •﹏•
I don't think it'd hurt to just add it in there....

[Mr. Epic]

Oh come on, Nobody's going to disallow re-sizing. T_T
\o/ In this age and time I can imagine it.

[Comic Tragedy]

PoTW #1 -
This is the first PoTw, good luck to every entrant from here on end.

Description:


[I]Rules:
Limit: one entry per person.
Your entry must be relevant to the current theme. Myself, and other members of the graphics community will be the judge of how well your entry relates, if ever it's relevancy should come into question.
Your entry cannot be edited (with any photo editing program) past a light amount of adjustment layers and of course cropping/resizing. Myself, and other members of the graphics community will be the judge of whether you have enhanced your photo too much, if ever it should come into question.
It is a requirement to post a link to the original picture before it was edited.
You may change your entry after you have submitted once. Only, of course, before the deadline.
[I]You may not enter if you chose the theme.
All entries must be made during the PoTW time period. Previously made photos will be disqualified.


Good luck to all contestants, and please post any PoTW questions, feedback, etc in the PoTW Discussion Thread (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=175143).

So this is obviously only a mock first entry thread, the rules really suck seeing as I basically copied the relevancy rule for the editing one...

Feedback is GREATLY appreciated, I'm sure you will all have lots (and hopefully fast). I wan't to get this thing rolling.

[Gummy]

Maybe make it a requirement to post a link to both the original photo and to the enhanced one (only if you've enhanced it, of course)?

[Comic Tragedy]

Ehm, I guess that makes sense. Yeah, sure I'll definitely add that.

*changed*

[THIRTY-SIX]

Great my brother took my camera for 2 weeks. Might have to borrow one. .o.

[Counterfeit]

I might nab the D40 from school for a while, hope to get my own for college soon though.

Would it be okay if I use the photo I'll be taking for Gummy?

[Comic Tragedy]

Well that sucks Munna....

And yeah, that sounds fine to me. As long as it is in the time period.

[True Reign]

CT, is it alright if I take a picture and just invert the colours through MS Paint, or is that not allowed?

[Counterfeit]

Shoot's all done. :]

Sepia/B&W etc allowed, yes?

[Gummy]

Seeing as nothing is taken out or added to the picture, it should be acceptable. I wanted to take a picture of a garden, but the heavy rain killed EVERYTHING in my neighborhood. So yeah, took a few pics and now choosing which to enter.

[dolce.]

So the only color adjustments allowed are B&W and Sepia? (Other than like, levels and curves and contrast and such)

Things like enhancers aren't allowed? (Selective Color, Hue/Saturation?)

[Gummy]

I think its all about common sense. You can use Selective Color to strengthen a specific color, but I think it would be unfair to use it to completely change a color (for example, changing all the yellows in your picture to a vibrant magenta).

And with that, a suggestion for a new rule:

Colors can only be changed into colors of the same type, meaning cool colors can only be changed into other cool colors, and warm only into warm.
I'll leave it up to you guys to decide whether this is fair or not.

[Comic Tragedy]

I still think editing that far is strange. How about:

The nullification, intensification, and change in hue of color in a photo is permitted to a point. Once again, myself and other members of the graphics and photography community will be the judge whether this should come into question.

[Gummy]

In other words, all color enhancements are out? Then I, and maybe Joe, will have to resubmit out entries.

If color enhancements are against the rules, then we might as well ban any type of editing done to an image other than resizing. Really nothing more basic about Photoshop than tampering with colors.

Disregard. xD

[dolce.]

I... I think Comic Tragedy means more like, we can't go off with +100 Saturation, but if we want to brighten the colors a little, we can still use saturation? Because some cameras just don't take colors very well... [/mine being one of them]

[Gummy]

Oh, I misread his post. I thought it said all the stuff was not permitted.

[Comic Tragedy]

When it comes time for voting do you think I should link all of the images, or just post them?

I mean, some of them are pretty darn huge *points at Pandamoure*

[THIRTY-SIX]

A thumbnail and link is what I thought people were going to post.

[Counterfeit]

I can thumbnail it if you'd like.

The full version isn't that much bigger seeing as I had to use an online editor; Original size was deathly slow using it. xD

[THIRTY-SIX]

Haha good idea to limit yourself with what you do with it. xD

Though some of those filters are a nice change from ps. xD

Just thought.. thumbnail mouseover enlarge. .O.

I don't think that's possible for css though. .o.

Will enter when there is a proper set theme, and I'll get my little digi cam back.

[Counterfeit]

Haven't checked those out yet. :o

I've done extensive research into it, but it can't be acheived with just CSS, needs to be accompanied by javascript. :[

It's generally a good idea for the forum though, so I think I'll suggest it as an additional tag;
Other forums already have it. :]

[Comic Tragedy]

Yea, well I just decided to post original sizes except for gummy's, his was too large so I linked it.

Something I realized though is that I can't make the next entry thread due to the fact there is no winner, and thus no theme.

First idea will be used. XD

[Gummy]

Sorry my image was so enormous. The one I submitted was actually a downsized version of the original. xD

[Comic Tragedy]

But really, any ideas for the next theme! At all¿!¿

[THIRTY-SIX]

So the winner won't choose? :O

[Counterfeit]

Gawsh, learn to read pancake. xD

How about "Time" as a theme?

[Comic Tragedy]

Sounds good.

I'm pretty sure the PotW is only vaguely considered a real competition. Its been 12 days since the first thread, and its still stickied.

[Gummy]

The second week and we already get a complex theme? How will we expect to get people to try out the competition?

I think for POTW #2, and maybe even #3, we should have themes that are a bit easier for your average Joe (no pun intended).

[Counterfeit]

Seriously? Time could mean loads of things..
Age, sunset/rise, clockwork, car journeys etc.

I actually held back from the more complex themes, lol.

Besides, If more complex themes means less people then I'm fine with that.

[Loki]

Wait a second.

Did you guys get a voting thread for the first PoTW up already? o_o;;
[/sorry I haven't been around recently. ;;]

And did you decide how much time the competition is going to run? [/I can change the title of this thread for your guys this way]

[THIRTY-SIX]

It's there nearly voting over already though. Wait no it hasn't only been two days. Feels like a week though. xD

[Loki]

Wait, I'm pretty sure I said I wasn't stickying it?
Well we'll see. xD;
I'll leave it unstickied for now, and if it turns out to be popular, we'll stick it then. <3

[True Reign]

More complex themes means more people.

Besides I'll try my best to be in the PotW each and every week.

[THIRTY-SIX]

But wouldn't not stickying it mean photography isn't as important than signatures; when in fact your more likely to build a portfolio of photographs than signatures?

[Comic Tragedy]

Well, anywho I've decided to restart the whole process with POTW - Time tomorrow.

[Loki]

But wouldn't not stickying it mean photography isn't as important than signatures; when in fact your more likely to build a portfolio of photographs than signatures?

... I don't... understand the significance of that argument. xD;

The only reason why I'm not stickying it is because we have too many stickies already, and photography has never been a huge thing in this section. Nothing to do with which one is "more important" than the other, but rather letting it have a little test run first.

[THIRTY-SIX]

What I was saying is that you might as well call this section sigs and avatars. You don't really see any other graphical communication here.

Plus having more stickies might push forward the idea for a competition section, and not just for s/potw.

[Counterfeit]

Oh dear, no entrants? xD

I haven't any time due to exams; Maybe it should be per fortnight. :/

[Gummy]

i had a planned shot for this week, I just never got the necessary materials to take it. >_<

[True Reign]

I'm still trying to think of an idea.

Can it be the word 'Time' or does it have to be about what Josephine said?

[Counterfeit]

Not at all, they were just examples.

Anything that YOU think of when you hear the word time, as long as you can justify it.

[True Reign]

Thanks Josephine. :)

Time to get the Scrabble board out. :P

[Comic Tragedy]

Yea, just for the sake of keeping this competition alive I'll let this entry thread run for one more week.

[moments.]

Good idea CT, I think I have an idea but I haven't had time to shoot anything as of yet due to exams and stuff. Should get something up by then.

[True Reign]

Everyone's too busy with these exams and studying. I think it was a good idea to make it run one more week.

[Comic Tragedy]

PoTF is looking better, and better just observing this weeks entry thread.

[Loki]

Comic Tragedy.

Where are you. D:<

At least tell us if we need to change the host. ;<

[Gummy]

Not really his fault. No one entered in PhotW#2...

[Counterfeit]

Yeah, I was gonna get some studio time and enter to try and revive it. :/

[Loki]

Rawrrr. D:
I would've entered, but I couldn't find my brother's miniature grandfather clock. <A<

Anyway, hopefully we can get more entrants this time around. [/wants to restart this competition and/or pick up from where it was]

[Gummy]

I have my idea for Time, I just need a disposable clock...

[Counterfeit]

Lol, that's fantastic; Me too. xD