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The Scientist
April 26th, 2009, 05:06 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/TristinCrow/PKMN/Machamp.png

According to the Pokedex entries, Machamp is 5'03" tall (or, as I have marked, 160.02cm). With the ratio of a 68-pixel sprite representing a 160.02cm Pokemon, I can conclude that one pixel = 2.35cm.

Machamp's arm is 40 pixels long. I obtained this by removing the lower left arm in MSPaint and "straightening" it by splitting it at the elbow and rotating each part by an appropriate angle. At 40 pixels, one can conclude that Machamp's arm is 95cm long, or for the sake of generality, 1m. Assuming that each punch is thrown from a "neutral", 0cm position, each arm travels approximately. 1m per punch.

According to its PokeDex entry in FireRed, "Its four ruggedly developed arms can launch a flurry of 1,000 punches in just two seconds." With this in mind, I have calculated that Machamp's punches are fired at an approximate speed of 250m/s (for those of you who are still in the Dark Ages and using the Imperial measurement system, that's 559.23mph).

That's pretty fast, guys. But it gets better.

When pulling its arms back, it shifts direction which means that a certain amount of g-force is applied to those arms. Considering the magnitude of this directional difference, the amount of time taken to correct it is negligible. Therefore, one can conclude that Machamp's punches have a general acceleration of 250m/s2. To calculate the g-force, we divide by the the gravitational acceleration of Earth, 9.80665m/s2. When Machamp fires or retracts a punch, (s)he feels 25.49G of force.

Now humans can endure this type of force on our muscles due to the soft tissue in our bodies: they absorb some of the force elastically and distribute it over time. Machamp is a completely different story, as its arms aren't soft, they're "rugged", i.e. hard, durable, etc. Humans can endure a constant 15G of pressure on body tissues, and individual instances of <30G force without suffering damage. But our friend Machamp can't. Without the luxury of soft tissue to deform and absorb the force, Machamp's arms should literally explode whenever it launches these rapid-fire punches it is apparently so well known for.

Discuss.

Charliezard
April 26th, 2009, 05:10 AM
From all that information I have come to a simple conclusion...You have way too much time on your hands. xD, but wow 0.0 Sounds like me really -Flexes-
This is a reason Pokemon can't be real, it shames me D:

coolcatkim22
April 26th, 2009, 07:30 AM
Yeah, and Pidgeot can fly twice the speed of sound, what's your point?

Elite Champion
April 26th, 2009, 07:35 AM
yeh, its only a game

ditto- can look at something and transform into it

and yes, you do have to much time

JP
April 26th, 2009, 07:45 AM
Looking waaaaay way too much into it lol.

The Scientist
April 26th, 2009, 08:00 AM
Yeah, and Pidgeot can fly twice the speed of sound, what's your point?

Considering how big Pidgeot is, it clearly has an insanely high muscle power-to-weight ratio. It's the reason the Bugatti Veyron can go so fast: massive engine + less weight to lug around = extremely high speeds.

Not to mention that Mach 2 is it's top speed. How long would it have to accelerate/dive in order to reach that speed? One must wonder...

So, let me ask you: what was your point?

Elite Champion
April 26th, 2009, 08:06 AM
dude, were not being bad but not much people on here are intrested to go into
that much detail about a game

take blastoise for instance

he's a six foot tall turtle that shoots water out cannons attached to its back

King!
April 26th, 2009, 08:39 AM
I think what you've done is marvelous....

Taking small information to get into such detailed conclusions about this wonderful subject....

Haza
April 26th, 2009, 09:05 AM
Dude, u are over analyzing it and its science thats not real. You could easily tell us why everything about every pokemon is scientifically incorrect.

True Reign
April 26th, 2009, 09:09 AM
That's pretty cool. 1,000 punches in less than two seconds, lol.
Dude, u are over analyzing it and its science thats not real. You could easily tell us why everything about every pokemon is scientifically incorrect.
It's just a fun fact to know. Calm down.

Vail
April 26th, 2009, 12:48 PM
His arms should explode, but they don't. And that SPECIFICALLY is why Machamp is one of my fave Pokemon. 8D No but really, they're pretty awesome.

invisible-chan
April 26th, 2009, 06:38 PM
XD Nice! Now my friends has more reason to spazz over Machamp. I have a few questions for you, if you don't mind.

1. Why did you do it? Curiosity from out of nowhere or something brought up in a conversion? Trying to show off how epically geeky you are? You know you can't deny how wonderfully geeky that is (<3's geeks).

2. Have you discovered any other trivia based off their pixels or are you going to?

I wish I had the patience to calculate something a random and awesome as that. XD

♣Gawain♣
April 26th, 2009, 06:40 PM
That's why it's Pokemon! Nothing can withstand the pressure of that kind, and it's only magic...

Åzurε
April 26th, 2009, 06:44 PM
That's pretty funny, if you ignore the blood-and-guts aspect...

thudthudthudthudthudthudthudthudthudBOOM!
xD wow, I am so spazzy today...



PS- Gymno? You listening? I'd like your input about this...

KurlyFries
April 26th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Wow. That's insane.

If I were Machamp, I would've learned by level 12 Machop to not punch anything that fast.
Natural selection, I guess.

coolcatkim22
April 26th, 2009, 07:01 PM
Considering how big Pidgeot is, it clearly has an insanely high muscle power-to-weight ratio. It's the reason the Bugatti Veyron can go so fast: massive engine + less weight to lug around = extremely high speeds.

Not to mention that Mach 2 is it's top speed. How long would it have to accelerate/dive in order to reach that speed? One must wonder...

So, let me ask you: what was your point?

-_- You're basing your theory on pixels, logic and unclear entries. That was my point.

Forever
April 26th, 2009, 07:01 PM
Gym inputs on what he wants to :O

But wow that's a lot of detail... Pokémon isn't supposed to be that detailed? XD;

BHwolfgang
April 26th, 2009, 07:14 PM
You have waaaaay too much free-time. XD

I can't believe someone would actually use their free-time to search up Machamp. ;O

If it can fire 1k punches at the speed of 250m/s, why isn't it an uber?! Dx

Åzurε
April 26th, 2009, 07:16 PM
Outrage! If I say for him to come, he does. If say to jump, he asks me, "how high". How dare you suggest otherwise! >:O

(jk, of course.[Please don't hurt me! >.<"])

Wulf
April 26th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Oh that's pretty coo-

(for those of you who are still in the Dark Ages and using the Imperial measurement system, that's 559.23mph).

Ahhh, here we go!

pokerus34
April 26th, 2009, 08:14 PM
Machamp....

Hmmm...

Well, if it'll practice in a gym, surely the gym materials will be destroyed! :)

In our world, Machamp's awesomely uber...

But in the Pokemon World, Machamp's an ordinary Machamp who likes to throw punches with his trainer... Doncha know??? :)


P.S. Haiiiaaa!!

Tacogeddon
April 26th, 2009, 08:36 PM
Just be sure to bring your gore-resistant poncho.

The Scientist
April 26th, 2009, 09:22 PM
-_- You're basing your theory on pixels, logic and unclear entries. That was my point.

The pixels, they never lie.

Gymnotide
April 26th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Gym inputs on what he wants to :O

Gym inputting now lol.

Rugged doesn't necessarily mean rock-hard.
& exploding arms are awesome.

Ninja Caterpie
April 26th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Fun.

Applying scientific logic to a world where there are living pieces of metal is very fun.

And that was really nice to know.

And that was only half-sarcastic, I'm serious.

But, it's not meant to make sense. Since when can a turtle create water out of the blue?

Aegis
April 26th, 2009, 10:48 PM
Wow.... XD; Very nice work there. But honestly, I don't think it's supposed to be taken literally, just taken as incredibly strong/fast. Besides, it's the Pokémon world, anything can happen :B

Veristical Blaze
April 26th, 2009, 10:59 PM
maybe japanese people are dumb and are bad at Mathematical formulas and Physics

Hamako-chan
April 27th, 2009, 12:17 AM
Its kinda nice of telling us this... but... its only a game.
Everything doesn't have to be related to real life.
Still, quite interesting :)

Åzurε
April 27th, 2009, 09:08 AM
@ Ver. Blaze- Actually (as far as I know), the Japanese are supposed to be among the top nations when it comes to things mathematical. Of course one should never make assumptions regardless...

I Laugh at your Misfortune!
April 27th, 2009, 10:31 AM
When pulling its arms back, it shifts direction which means that a certain amount of g-force is applied to those arms. Considering the magnitude of this directional difference, the amount of time taken to correct it is negligible. Therefore, one can conclude that Machamp's punches have a general acceleration of 250m/s2. To calculate the g-force, we divide by the the gravitational acceleration of Earth, 9.80665m/s2. When Machamp fires or retracts a punch, (s)he feels 25.49G of force.

Now humans can endure this type of force on our muscles due to the soft tissue in our bodies: they absorb some of the force elastically and distribute it over time. Machamp is a completely different story, as its arms aren't soft, they're "rugged", i.e. hard, durable, etc. Humans can endure a constant 15G of pressure on body tissues, and individual instances of <30G force without suffering damage. But our friend Machamp can't. Without the luxury of soft tissue to deform and absorb the force, Machamp's arms should literally explode whenever it launches these rapid-fire punches it is apparently so well known for.

I figured it out :3

1, Like Gymno said, "rugged" simply mean rough and tough, not completely rock-hard.

2, You went by the gravitational acceleration of EARTH. God knows where in the universe the Poke-world is meant to be. It could even be a different universe, which could have a completely different set of rules of physics.

WisherWisherWish
April 27th, 2009, 10:37 AM
Lol, cool.
Can you do this for Mightyena?

xxChazxx
April 27th, 2009, 11:49 AM
I enjoyed this. I agree that if it was put in the Pokedex, some serious research must be done. And how would they measure the speed of his punches anyway? That would take one serious high-speed camera.

I figured it out :3

1, Like Gymno said, "rugged" simply mean rough and tough, not completely rock-hard.

2, You went by the gravitational acceleration of EARTH. God knows where in the universe the Poke-world is meant to be. It could even be a different universe, which could have a completely different set of rules of physics.

I was thinking that too, but they have called the place "Earth", I believe, in the Deoxys movie. And there is that guy in D/P wo knows a lot of languages from this planet (I think he upgraded the pokedex to read in different languages but I'm not sure).

coolcatkim22
April 27th, 2009, 12:21 PM
The pixels, they never lie.

The pixels are a lie.
(So is the cake BTW)

I Laugh at your Misfortune!
April 27th, 2009, 12:30 PM
I was thinking that too, but they have called the place "Earth", I believe, in the Deoxys movie. And there is that guy in D/P wo knows a lot of languages from this planet (I think he upgraded the pokedex to read in different languages but I'm not sure).

It might not be the same universe though. It could be a parallel universe where everything is exactly the same...except that the earth's gravitational acceleration is different :D

The Scientist
April 27th, 2009, 12:59 PM
The pixels are a lie.
(So is the cake BTW)

DAMMIT MAN, HAVEN'T YOU EVER HEARD OF SPOILER TAGS?!

coolcatkim22
April 27th, 2009, 03:57 PM
Why would I need spoiler tags?

Åzurε
April 27th, 2009, 04:25 PM
...I think it was a joke.

Option 3. xD

Lady Gaga
April 27th, 2009, 05:41 PM
XD i loved this! Do more (for some reason the image i have in my head is Rayqaza)!

SmashBrony
April 27th, 2009, 05:52 PM
What I'm wondering is:
How strong is Machamp compared to the
Hulk?
& had anyone noticed it's face is
similar to King Dedede's?

Penumbra
April 27th, 2009, 06:17 PM
Omy. I came into this thread, thinking that someone would be
insulting Machamp's "power belt" or his tights or his duck-face or whatever,
but I get science shoved down my throat.

Well yeah, this is why people play pokemon. So the unreal can become
real. Like honestly, this is from the same people who say:

Garchomp can fly at the speed of a jet-plane
Charizard can melt boulders with it's mouth
Pidgeot can bend tall trees with wind
One swing of Nidoking's tail can snap a telephone pole like a toothpick
Goldbat's teeth have small holes for sucking blood
Dugtrio can cause earthquakes
Poliwrath can swim across the Pacific Oceaon w/o resting
Doduo's Two heads can communicate emotions w/ telepathic powers (yet they're not psychic typed)
One of Doduo's heads split into two through evolution.
Haunter's touch causes endless shuddering
Onix eats boulders
Drowzee sniffs people to see their dreams. It loves fun dreams.
Lickitung's six-foot tongue is connected to it's tail.
Rhyhorn's tackles can destroy anything.
Tangela is ticklish
Mr.Mime minutely vibrates it's fingertips to freeze molecules in the air
A long-lived magikarp can leap over a mountain with the amazing move, Splash.
Vaporeon can melt into water.
Flareon's flame sac in it's body can be heated to 3,000° fahrenheit
Crobat can walk.
Togepi stores kindness and happiness within it's shell.
Ampharos' tail can be seen from space.
Regigigas towed continents together.
Tangrowth's arms grow back right away when cut.
Garchomp creates blades of wind that slices trees.
Buneary can shatter boulders with it's ears.
Luxray can see through walls
Staraptor fusses over the shape of it's comb.
Pokemon are born on a torterra's back and spend their life there (wtf)
Dusclops sucks Will-O-The-Wisps into it's empty body.
Dusknoir brings people to the spirit world


You're lucky my pokedex is barely completed.

Rubber Ducky
April 27th, 2009, 06:23 PM
Obviously, Machamp is made of a different substance not known in our world that protects it from the impact.

coolcatkim22
April 27th, 2009, 06:35 PM
Don't, forget.
Charmeleon can lift three men with it's tail.

kingofjokers
April 27th, 2009, 06:42 PM
umm you need to do a puzzle well thanks for the info

Teh Blazer
April 28th, 2009, 03:22 PM
That is certainly.... interesting. Nice.

Haza
April 28th, 2009, 04:06 PM
-;4584452']That's pretty cool. 1,000 punches in less than two seconds, lol.

It's just a fun fact to know. Calm down.

Didnt mean to sound like I was stressing over it! lol. It just amazes me how people do all of this research for one Pokemon when it is all fantasy ultimately. I actually did enjoy reading this. XD Got bad rep'd about it,

Opposite Day
April 29th, 2009, 08:13 AM
Just wow. I like what you did there.. xD Then it is kind of strange that it cannot learn Explosion, oui? :P

The Scientist
April 29th, 2009, 08:43 AM
Just wow. I like what you did there.. xD Then it is kind of strange that it cannot learn Explosion, oui? :P

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/TristinCrow/PKMN/EXPLOSION.png
6 minutes in MSPaint.

Cham
May 2nd, 2009, 08:25 AM
OP, I love you :] I can't believe so many people are ragging on you just because you wanted to do something abstract. I for one love math, and think what you've done is great, people like you keep forums interesting.

iTzKaizer
May 2nd, 2009, 09:01 AM
Wow man, great information about machamp. I really wouldn't imagine someone could do this kind of conclusions from pixels. At the end you're trying to say Machamp is a suicide right?

hank jones
May 2nd, 2009, 09:40 AM
Check the math!
Machamp punches 1000 in two senconds!
ppm= punches per------
1000/2= 500 pps
500*60= 30,000 ppm
30,000*60= 1,800,000 pph
1,800,000*24= 43,200,000 ppd

43,200,000 punches in a day!!! That is totally beastly!!!

I love machamp!!! He's so powerful, he has to wear a belt that weakens him so he doesn't kill everything!!!!

Metatron
May 2nd, 2009, 06:32 PM
Yo dude, you're thinking way too hard about all of this.

Nnoitra Jiruga
May 3rd, 2009, 12:31 PM
/brain hurts

Well...it IS a superpower pokemon, so I guess its normal for them. x D

Artemis
May 3rd, 2009, 05:57 PM
I don't think I could ever come up with this as I just don't go so deep into details with pixels and size comparison...but it sure does show me how off Pokémon is based on reality XD Then again, "it's only a game."

zerwey
May 4th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Mathematical Genius. :O

Yeah, I guess your theory is correct. But Pokemon isn't real, and that's what you proved ): xxP

Second Coming of Jebus
May 5th, 2009, 01:55 AM
Yo dude, you're thinking way too hard about all of this.

Exactly what I was thinking lol.

d00d it's pokemans, it's all magix

Vladi
May 5th, 2009, 02:35 AM
From all that information I have come to a simple conclusion...You have way too much time on your hands. xD, but wow 0.0 Sounds like me really -Flexes-
This is a reason Pokemon can't be real, it shames me D:

I agree with everyword you wrote.Pokemon aren't real and never will be lol

The Scientist
May 5th, 2009, 03:00 PM
I've changed my title to PKMN Scientist/Mathemagician.

And just passing everything off as magic is way too lazy and passive for my tastes. I actually like thinking technically and trying to reason out how and why things should and shouldn't work. So what if Pokemon is a magical game? These little exercises keep my brain working at peak efficiency. What's the point of learning kinematic physics if I'm never going to use it, eh? Not to mention it's quite entertaining to watch the aftermath of my posting. Some people actually enjoyed it!

Right now I'm trying to figure out how Vivi can summon meteors. I'll get back to you on that in a few days.

Yo dude, you're thinking way too hard about all of this.

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST STAY DEAD, CHE? MAKE UP YOUR MIND ALREADY.