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Sakari
April 27th, 2009, 08:21 PM
Ok guys since pokeurs34 can't seem to log in he's asked me the co-chief of the newpaper to post this. It's the first issue of the pokemon times, so here it is
hot of the press the first issue of the pokemon times enjoy! :D


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1060/page1n.jpg


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5919/page2h.jpg



http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7417/page3dcq.jpg


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4259/page4t.jpg

Banners or userbars:
Sure were like a banner here are some are supporters made.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1710/tptv.png Made by greenstorm


So sit back with your coffe or whatever you drink and read the pokemon times :D

Also please comment on what you think we should do and what would make the pokemon times better thanks.

~Pokemon xd and pokeurs 34

Gymnotide
April 27th, 2009, 08:30 PM
First glance:

I'd consider saving it in a more reliable file format.
What it is now makes it really blurry.

Inkfingers
April 27th, 2009, 08:35 PM
Pretty good for a first issue

Swift!
April 27th, 2009, 08:36 PM
I agree with Gymnotide.

It should be saved in PNG to make it easier to read and, overall, better looking.

Other than that, it looks great. Although, in my article, it says "Pokemon: Arceus and the Jewel of Life". Isn't the movie called "Arceus - Towards The Overcome's Time-Space/Arceus: The Conquering of Space-Time"?

Sakari
April 27th, 2009, 08:54 PM
@Gymnoide: Yeah i think he should have saved it in Png. to. And thanks for you comment :)

@Ink fingers: Thanks :) Also thanks for your comment.

@;swift: Thanks for your comment, And i'll tell him about the image for format ;)

JX Valentine
April 27th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Also, the part about genders is not necessarily true. Basically, gender in Generation II (one after RBY, yes, but we're assuming you're also considering what happens when you trade pokémon across generations) was determined by the Attack IV and nothing else. So, you could pretty much have a pokémon with a crappy defense and a crappy attack or a better attack than its defense (if your luck really sucked with Defense IVs), and it'd still be female. In other words, good defense =/= female.

Other than that, it's not bad. Could use a proofreader, though, but that's just the grammar nazi in me talking.

Nnoitra Jiruga
April 27th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Blurry text, but otherwise...it was interesting to read : D

Spinor
April 27th, 2009, 09:01 PM
I'm gonna translate what they mean to say in a language that must be understood.

Do not do this on MS Paint!!!!

That program can give the worst quality you can possibly get from the computer community.

Instead, use the free program "GiMP".

It WILL take some time for you to learn GiMP but trust me, that picture will really look like an issue once you get to it.

Of course, you can do certain arts in MS Paint but for the whole project just no. Please No.

Google GiMP, and if you need help with it, don't hesitate to PM, I will gladly help.

Oh, and also, make sure you check multiple sources before final determination of facts for the issues.

bobandbill
April 27th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Whatisthispokemontimesthing*takesalook*


Not bad, I suppose - for the most part the layout is decent - the 1st page is a tad messy with multiple half-articles going onto the 2nd page and not being in line with each other, but minor and the rest is quite fine. Maybe try to keep articles that have to go over to the next page at a minimum (say, 1st page has the main, attention-grabbing article going onto the next page, and one small completed article next to it or something like that), although mind I'm no expert on newspapers. =P

The crossword could be a touch harder too, although its fine for a first issue, I suppose - but Pokemon names ain't too challenging. Maybe use questions, based on, say, dex info for the Pokemon? (You can find the such all over the place, and for each single main handheld game as well).

And the whole image quality thing as well which has already been mentioned, and maybe consider an editor to catch mistakes, as Valentine suggested. But otherwise good work - one can always improve on later issues, so good luck to you.

There so should be a Miror B article section ;)

Sakari
April 27th, 2009, 09:17 PM
@ Valentine: Yeah i think he should get his facts right to i didn't right the first issue he die.

@ Godot: I agree with you on that one, I suggest he use gimp to.

@ Bob: He's from the phllipiens forgive me if i spelt that wrong.

@ Everyone: Thanks for commenting :D :D :D

Forever
April 27th, 2009, 09:35 PM
Yeah that's really terrible quality... needs a background or something - grain effect?

I also hate how the font varies and also these should be collected somewhere.

Otherwise the articles look... kinda okay? XD;

Artemis
April 28th, 2009, 08:38 AM
I think for a first issue, it wasn't all that bad. I mean nothing comes out perfect the first time, you just take it one step at a time, and gradually you get better :)

My few suggestions is

- Save on .PNG format
- Try to use Glimp, recently got it, and it works amazing
- Instead of a White background use something more catching, but not something that blinds the eye

Other than that, pretty nice; I think I'll be around for when the second Issue comes :)

Regigigas
April 28th, 2009, 09:53 AM
Ugh, that crossword is so hard.

GreenStorm
April 28th, 2009, 11:13 AM
I don't really have anything new to say (above comments said it all). But it's pretty interesting, especially the Did You Know? facts. The crossword is too easy for people who know Pokemon by heart and I'll be glad to help with the crossword (ideas are already forming in my mind :P). Also, the paper honestly could be better in terms of graphics. I can help, if you want.

One more thing, it's amazing how many people want to be a part of this. :D

Åzurε
April 28th, 2009, 11:15 AM
@ regigigas-WutRly?

I liked it, although I had PMed Pokerus some stuff so it didn't get here. :( ah well, unless I see him online by the time of the next issue, I'll send it to you, ok?

Superjub
April 28th, 2009, 01:23 PM
@ regigigas-WutRly?

I liked it, although I had PMed Pokerus some stuff so it didn't get here. :( ah well, unless I see him online by the time of the next issue, I'll send it to you, ok?

I think he was being sarcastic/joking about. ;) Anyway, I agree. I reccomend you save it as PNG, as JPG (assuming that was what it was saved as) ruins the quality. I also reccomd you make the crossword harder. :P Overall, well done! :D

Sakari
April 28th, 2009, 03:01 PM
@Green storm: Thanks for commenting :D And i'll tell him about the format.

@Mooglizer: Yeah he can't get on for some reason but you can pm it to me;) Thanks for commenting:D

@ espeon: Thanks for commenting ;) And yeah i'll be sure to tell him

@ Everyone: If anyone would like to make a userbar or banner for the newspaper they can.

Corvus of the Black Night
April 28th, 2009, 08:22 PM
Besides the terrible quality of the file, which I really don't want to emphasise considering what feedback you got from everyone else, it's pretty interesting. Also, Valentine's right, but a better way to explain it is to explain short and sweet what IVs are, so that you can say "If it has an attack IV over 7, it's a boy!" rather than "If it has high attack it's a male Pokemon!"

I also wouldn't mind giving a little secrets about the configurations of Pokemon. Being a hacker, I can probably give tutorials on things as well. Adding a hacking section would be very beneficial to extending your audience.

pokerus34
April 29th, 2009, 04:06 AM
Well, back at the forums (Absence: 3 Days) and I'm here to answer the questions... Well, it's only the first issue and we're doing everything we can to improve the newspaper. *Flash* I'll try the Glimp or save it as PNG Format, but mostly Glimp. *Others* About the Gender Issue... Well, it was only contributed. I'm just gonna protect his rights so I won't say who contributed it. *Others²* The grammar? I'm not exactly fluent or good at communication and written English but I'm sure to notice those errors. ---Well, here we are trying to do our best in making the next Issues Educational and Readable! --- P.S. Pokerus34 ---

Seadiga
April 29th, 2009, 04:34 AM
I think that PNG should be used as file type.But people have mentioned that already.
Pokemon Crossword COULD be a bit better.
Pokemon Times logo is squished.
And may I suggest more puzzles?Trivia would be nice,maybe a kids section? and maybe larger font.

And are you still taking posistions?Just a question

pokerus34
April 29th, 2009, 04:47 AM
*Seadiga* OK... Suggest One! Post in on my Profile... Well, my bad for saving it in jpeg file... Really. Maybe it's because our Monitor becomes blurry sometimes... We need to buy a New LCD for the benefit of PC. Haha! Peace! :) ---- PS ---

JX Valentine
April 29th, 2009, 05:17 AM
The grammar? I'm not exactly fluent or good at communication and written English but I'm sure to notice those errors.

I highly recommend getting a proofreader anyway because you admit you're not exactly fluent or good at written English. Basically, you're writing in English. You're writing something meant to be taken seriously in English. It's slightly harder for someone who's fluent in English to read through something littered with mistakes because the errors slow people down on a subconscious level (or, if the reader is a writer themselves, because it's just harder to take seriously).

In other words, every newspaper has a copyeditor for a reason. The editor-in-chief could proofread, but his main job is to assemble the paper itself and make decisions for it.

That said, the errors that I spotted:

Page 1
- "At large" means "free," but it means "free" in the sense of "not captured." As in, if you're on the run, you're at large. If you should be confined, you're at large. To say an event is at large is somewhat awkward.
- Random capitalization in the small text at the very bottom. (Suggestions, profile, and e-mail all should not be capitalized.)
- "The story is set in Michina Town." You don't say "the story sets in."

Page 2
- "Extended twist"? While you're talking about a semi-sequel, I think you mean "exciting twist" here because "extended twist" makes it sound like the exciting parts that already existed in past games are being drawn out longer than they should.
- "where Ash and his friends had just arrived." The "on" isn't necessary, and it makes it sound as if they're perched on top of the city.
- "The setting was said." The verbs are singular, and there's one setting. Ergo, the word "setting" should be singular as well.
- Comma after "Greece." This is a compound sentence.
- Also, the two halves of this sentence aren't related. Therefore, I'd say just say them in separate sentences.
-- Also, who said these things? You're writing a newspaper article, so you want to remove anything that makes it sound as if you're relaying rumors because it's just not good journalism. "It is said" implies you don't actually know and haven't verified your facts.
- "Notched-ear" should not be capitalized.

Page 3
...See below.

Page 4
- Randomly capitalized "mon" in "Pokémon" in the first fact.
- Aside from the fact that the gender thing is inaccurate, "whether" is misspelled. No spell checker would actually let "wether" pass.
- In the last fact, the capitalization is correct, but now the accent is missing. Buh?
- "Better place" should not be capitalized. It's random, considering this is the middle of a sentence.

I just realized something. Did you just plagiarize your entire third page from this (http://www.examiner.com/x-7833-Denver-Nintendo-Examiner-y2009m4d20-why-Pokemon-and-consoles-dont-mix)? O_o I mean, yes, you added a URL to the page at the bottom of that page, but you don't credit the author otherwise (and probably haven't asked the author to display their work in your newspaper). Not to mention you're writing a newsletter, so you should be coming up with your own material. It's just good practice simply because you won't run into the risk of getting complaints from the original author, and it's just good practice for something that relies on writing and a level of creativity and good journalism in order to be taken seriously, if that makes sense.

Translator
April 29th, 2009, 05:42 AM
Well, I think our first issue is okay but I also spotted some spelling and grammar errors. But, I think it's okay because this is our very first issue and we'll make sure that those errors will be eliminated in the upcoming issues. :)

P.S. Hey pokerus34, sorry I didn't pass my news about the glitches. It's because I wasn't able to access PC for the past few days. I'm very sorry for that.

GreenStorm
April 29th, 2009, 11:14 AM
@ pokemon xd: No problem. :) Also, I already made a banner and posted it in the main thread but got no comments about it. :(

Sakari
April 29th, 2009, 11:27 AM
@ pokemon xd: No problem. :) Also, I already made a banner and posted it in the main thread but got no comments about it. :(


I like it green storm :) Okay we can use it, I will also make some supporter userbars.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1710/tptv.png Banner by green stom.

GreenStorm
April 29th, 2009, 05:16 PM
Thanks for the sincere comment!

Also, I have a few suggestions to the newspaper overall (some I might have said in my previous comment):

- I noticed Bulbasaur, and I figured he was the weekly Pokemon. I thought of a name. Ready? Pokemon of the Issue.
- In terms of graphics, it could look better. It's basically black lines with (text and pictures).
- Everyone said this, but maybe you could "hire" a grammar checker. Or you can just paste everything in a word program.
- For the crossword, you could make an Across and Down place instead of spreading the "hints" out.

That's all for now. Also, looking forward to see your userbar. :)

JX Valentine
April 29th, 2009, 05:49 PM
Or you can just paste everything in a word program.

Tip: Don't use Microsoft Word's grammar checker. It attempts to correct things that are actually okay, and in doing so, it riddles your work with more errors. x_x The computer's intelligent enough to help out with spelling, but when it comes to sentence structure, it's easier to get a human beta, rather than a machine to do it.

Swift!
April 29th, 2009, 05:57 PM
*agrees with Valentine*

I'd be happy to beta read the newspaper for you, pokerus34.

Gusxx1
April 29th, 2009, 06:58 PM
Green Storm. Great job on that banner. I really like it and it looks great.

Like everyone else. I suggest a better background, better font and of course not to use MS paint.

Other then that it kept me interested and it can improve over time. Keep up the good work. Wish you luck with future releases.

ChArkaChu
April 30th, 2009, 01:29 AM
' hey pokerus i can help you out ' in the spelling and grammar ' and also in designing the next issue ' oh and i will also help in editing the text ( font and stuff like that ) '

pokerus34
April 30th, 2009, 03:25 AM
Thanks for the WISHES... And also for the INSULTS (If there's any)... Well, *CharKaChu* OK, you can help... Anytime! I'll promise you guys I'll make the next issues better... But you better CONTRIBUTE! :) ---P.S.---

GreenStorm
April 30th, 2009, 11:14 AM
Tip: Don't use Microsoft Word's grammar checker. It attempts to correct things that are actually okay, and in doing so, it riddles your work with more errors. x_x The computer's intelligent enough to help out with spelling, but when it comes to sentence structure, it's easier to get a human beta, rather than a machine to do it.

I wasn't really going for MS Word, but I see your point. I've ran into that problem lots of times when doing my homework. :(

Green Storm. Great job on that banner. I really like it and it looks great..

Thanks, it's nice to see compliments.

Also, I suggest you add more pages to the newspaper. Maybe add features like a Rumor section or something similar to that. I can also help with the newspaper itself (how it looks).

♣Gawain♣
April 30th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Oooohhhhh.... Nice! Good job guys! Except the text is a bit blurry and sketchy. I suggest changing it in a different format.

So there is a new movie? I should have known!

You're Gonna Go Far Kid!
April 30th, 2009, 05:41 PM
Very promising.
Like everybody is saying,make the quality better by changing the format.
Also a printable version would be nice so made it sized for that purpose.

Sakari
April 30th, 2009, 06:07 PM
Thanks everyone for the coments ^^ :) Yes the next issue will look better and have more graphic work done for it.

Okay so like i said i made a userbar for the news paper.

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/5949/pokmontimesd.png (http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/5949/pokmontimesd.png)

pokerus34
May 1st, 2009, 03:04 AM
Good Banner... :) I appreciate it. Well, if I can log in properly now, I'll take the banner! :) P.S.

GreenStorm
May 1st, 2009, 11:06 AM
The user bar's great! Although, can you make the white background transparent?

Sakari
May 1st, 2009, 02:19 PM
@Pokerus: Thanks.

@Green storm: The backrounds transparent just when you upload it copy and paste it.



Update:

Hey pokemon times fans the new issue should be out this monday with many new features.


Also here are some new userbars.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2309/pokesupporterx.png (http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2309/pokesupporterx.png)

GreenStorm
May 1st, 2009, 03:46 PM
Oh, because I thought it wasn't transparent. My mistake. :S

Also, if there isn't a crossword feature, may I have that?

Dope
May 1st, 2009, 04:11 PM
It's a pretty good pokemon newspaper issue, but sadly it's blurry.

Artemis
May 1st, 2009, 05:56 PM
I'm sure a lot of new changes will be made for the second issue, I for one am looking forward to it. Thank you pokemon xd for the news update on the next issue. xD

Sakari
May 1st, 2009, 06:49 PM
@ Green storm: Have what the newspaper crossword?

@Dope: Yeah i know xD

@ Flash: no prob,


@Everyone: In the next issue were still discussing things but there may be a hacking section, Also if anyone would like to be a reporter, Proof reader, or anything else i haven't added please post on this thread.

Artemis
May 1st, 2009, 07:33 PM
I believe I discussed with Pokerus this mornign about me being part of the papers, it involved quotes...Did he tell you about that pokemon xd?

Zennerick
May 1st, 2009, 08:02 PM
I just realized something. Did you just plagiarize your entire third page from this (http://www.examiner.com/x-7833-Denver-Nintendo-Examiner-y2009m4d20-why-Pokemon-and-consoles-dont-mix)? O_o I mean, yes, you added a URL to the page at the bottom of that page, but you don't credit the author otherwise (and probably haven't asked the author to display their work in your newspaper). Not to mention you're writing a newsletter, so you should be coming up with your own material. It's just good practice simply because you won't run into the risk of getting complaints from the original author, and it's just good practice for something that relies on writing and a level of creativity and good journalism in order to be taken seriously, if that makes sense.

I suggest listening to Valentine. It's not right to plagiarize.

Sakari
May 1st, 2009, 08:50 PM
@Flash: I'll talk to him about it.

@Zennerick: I didn't write that part pokerus did.

pokerus34
May 1st, 2009, 09:37 PM
*Zennerick* Oh... Yeah... Sorry... So what are your suggestions? Should i include the Author of the feature or never include any URL at all?... I guess i should include the Author of the Feature, or i will be accused of piracy/stealing... I'll try enlarging the newspaper, in that way i can include the sources of each element of the newspaper. P.S = :( Shame...

bobandbill
May 1st, 2009, 09:41 PM
Common practise for anything is to ask someone before you go ahead and use their stuff - plagiarism is pretty much a big no-no. =/ Even including the author and urls and everything tends to fall short of what is the common and correct way, which is asking for permission and then making sure you give credit should you get that permission.

pokerus34
May 1st, 2009, 09:53 PM
Yeah... Guess i made a big mistake again... Still, trying hard. P.S. = Guess I'll post some credits...

ChArkaChu
May 2nd, 2009, 02:09 AM
' hey guys ' i think the next issue will be released this monday or tuesday ' it looks more cool now and the text is not blurry anymore ' and we also made sure that our spelling and grammar is perfect '*pokerus* we made a lot of changes ' weeee '

GreenStorm
May 2nd, 2009, 07:21 AM
@ Green storm: Have what the newspaper crossword

I meant, may I do a crossword feature, if you don't have one. :P

@Everyone: In the next issue were still discussing things but there may be a hacking section, Also if anyone would like to be a reporter, Proof reader, or anything else i haven't added please post on this thread.

If you ever need graphics, just let me know.

Yams
May 2nd, 2009, 08:23 AM
Great job with this, though there are a lot of improvements that I'm looing forward to.
I'd like to help if possible, maybe you could add a little pokemon horoscope, except instead of being a Leo or a Taurus you are a Luxray or a Tauros. You can also add a Pokemon of the Issue, as I think someone mentioned earlier, with little tidbits, and maybe a suggested moveset for the pokemon. You would need someone to do that for you though, as you cant take someone elses moveset.
I'd like to help with this if possible, so I'm asking to be part of the "team"

Patatas Fritas
May 4th, 2009, 06:06 AM
Great, I agree, you should use gIMP, well, I'm glad my article was in there.