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Inkfingers
May 7th, 2009, 03:15 PM
I understand that in the pokemon games, you get paid by other trainers when you beat them. If the world of pokemon were real, would that system still apply?

Pink_Marshmello
May 7th, 2009, 03:23 PM
You think that would be like gambling... So I'd say they wouldn't let minors, which is odd, because in the games you are like 10...

Ruphire
May 7th, 2009, 03:25 PM
I have wondered that. Poor kids. I can imagine a 10 year old running up to his mom and saying "Mommy! I lost a pokemon match and some guy stole my money! Wah! ;;"

Zorua
May 7th, 2009, 03:26 PM
That wouldn't happen unless you were being bullied by someone or something.

I mean, it's pretty hard to imagine that, after losing a pokemon battle, someone knocking you out and taking your money.

...Sounds like Gym, lol. XD

Artemis
May 7th, 2009, 03:30 PM
I highly doubt it would happen in reality. I actually can't even picture someone [especially so young] carrying thousands of dollars in their pocket so late at night. The only way someone would give up their money is if they were really being bullied [said above]. Though, no, because it would be considered gambling which is bad for little youngsters, especially at the age of ten. xD

ShinjisLover
May 7th, 2009, 03:41 PM
If this were in the real world, I'd assume only Gym Leaders hand out money, since it would be an official match.

BUT since this is a video game, everyone has to pay you. How else would you make easy money? It would take forever selling things you find on the ground.

white lancer
May 7th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Yeah...in the anime, we don't exactly see trainers handing out money to people who defeated them. Why? Because it would seem strange and unrealistic. If it's too unrealistic for the anime, it's definitely too unrealistic for reality.

Artemis
May 7th, 2009, 04:56 PM
Not even in reality might Gym Leaders give out free money just for winning match. I think it would simply go as far the badge in real life. However, I could picture trainers battling it out for the top prize of a large amount of money; we do it now in real life anyways. xD

zerwey
May 7th, 2009, 04:59 PM
Lol: what if you see a ten year old knocking some buff guy out, and taking his money?

....Wouldn't happen. The payout of money would not happen in the real world. I can believe Gym Leaders, because those are official, and since they're the hardest, you should get some cash for winning.

Azonic
May 7th, 2009, 05:00 PM
Threaten them with murder with your pokeymanz. Who gives a crap about Rated G.

Feathing
May 7th, 2009, 05:14 PM
If this were in the real world, I'd assume only Gym Leaders hand out money, since it would be an official match.

BUT since this is a video game, everyone has to pay you. How else would you make easy money? It would take forever selling things you find on the ground.


I agree with you, in the games, you have to gain money in an easy way so you can buy things.. But in real life, only Gym Leaders should hand money...

Artemis
May 7th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Well, Gym Leaders and the Elites as well. Elites should actually be able to give more money as prize seeing as they are a lot tougher.

.Razr
May 7th, 2009, 06:14 PM
Well, as said above I can imagin getting money for winning tournements...

BHwolfgang
May 7th, 2009, 06:17 PM
What about those rich trainers? You could totally jack their wallets after a couple run-ins with your 'gang' of FIghting Pokémonz. =D

LugiaFreak
May 7th, 2009, 07:07 PM
In the real world, there is no way that something like that would be allowed. It doesn't make any sense, either... kids carrying around that much money is crazy. In my Diamond, I have about $500,000. So yeah. ^^

The only reason that is programmed into the game is so you can make money and buy things at the PokeMart.

coolcatkim22
May 7th, 2009, 07:08 PM
I bet in reality they would give you money.

I mean, if Pokemon were real, all my Pokemon fainted and another person had Pokemon that weren't fainted. I'd give them money.

Gumball Watterson
May 7th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Wait wait, pause the freaking thread.

IF the money system is only applicable to the games and not the anime then:

How do hell does Brock buy all his stuff?

They have to make some sorth of income to support themselves.


Then again, it's a cartoon. You'll probably find Pokebucks on the floor like Rupees in Legend of Zelda.

zerwey
May 7th, 2009, 09:55 PM
Toting $P800,000 around with me is not my idea of safe. But Godot is right; Brock needs money to buy all his stuff. So I think the money payout does show in the anime; just to a certain extent. Or maybe Brock's rich.

white lancer
May 7th, 2009, 10:29 PM
They mention money in the anime...they just don't show it. Team Rocket is always whining about how they need money to buy food (or, at least they were in the 1st season), and Team Rocket and Ash & Co even got themselves jobs at restaurants once.

zerwey
May 7th, 2009, 10:39 PM
Team Rocket never and never will get enough money because they fail at everything they do, and they're not like normal Trainers, battling other Trainers to get money.

I never heard of them getting jobs at resturants but if they did, I'd like to watch that epidsode.

white lancer
May 7th, 2009, 11:00 PM
It was in the first season...otherwise I wouldn't have known about it, haha. They were on the island that got attacked by the giant Tentacruel.

zerwey
May 7th, 2009, 11:09 PM
Oh ok. *goes to look up*

And nobody will be able to knock me out with my uber Infernape at my side xD. So people stealing meh money won't be a problem.

bobandbill
May 8th, 2009, 05:39 AM
In real life, one doesn't let ten year olds wander into casinos and start gambling away as well, I suppose. =P

Such a system of exchanging money would be probably an unstable one, really - but luckily this is the world of Pokemon, so who cares about the smelly NPCs - as long as they can keep giving me money, I'm happy. XD

True Reign
May 8th, 2009, 06:14 AM
Of course it would.

It'll create gangs, but gangs are still around. Hell even pirates are still around. XD

Psyburn
May 8th, 2009, 07:37 AM
I think it's simply a mechanic in-game, where most rpgs reward the player with exp. and money for winning fights. the reward money is simply exclusive to trainer fights probably to give that "real world" feel.....if anything in this world can be considered real beyond occupations.

Alexithymia~
May 8th, 2009, 07:41 AM
You have a lot of money in pokemon. Like in the millions if you save up enough... So. if they did pokemon in the real world they would have to make the fee like 5 pounds not 200.

Artemis
May 8th, 2009, 07:44 AM
^ Post above me makes a good point. If we were to pay money I think it would have to be a lot less, since carrying thousands or millions of dollars would be a heavy load. Unless, they accept checks xD

I wonder how the money conversion would work too?

Broleta
May 8th, 2009, 07:47 AM
You'd probably have to specify those conditions beforehand, similar to gambling. I doubt battling for money would be much of a standard though.

Cassino
May 8th, 2009, 08:32 AM
if they did pokemon in the real world they would have to make the fee like 5 pounds not 200.
Poke is not like pound sterling.
If we were to pay money I think it would have to be a lot less, since carrying thousands or millions of dollars would be a heavy load.
Nor is it like dollars.

It is akin to yen, where a value such as 200 is worth very little. Pokemon being a Japanese franchise, this should be obvious to you.

Artemis
May 8th, 2009, 08:36 AM
I know that the Japanese money would come down to less, but say a trainer was traveling in America or England, carrying around say $300,000 cash is quite a load...and if other trainers wanted to battle you for it, then oh dear, that is when it becomes a real Pokémon fight...for protection over wanting something xD

Superjub
May 8th, 2009, 08:38 AM
I dont think you are foced to give out money because you lost, as I cant imagine Twins giving money to a Cue Ball. XD I'm unsure about even Gym Leaders giving out money, but I guess it's possible. But if Gym Leaders give out money if they lose, do opponents have to give Gym Leaders money if they lose? :\ There are probably competitions where if you lose, you have to give money to your opponent. :P

Artemis
May 8th, 2009, 08:43 AM
I would think so too. If you had to give out money it would either have to be arranged by the trainers or competition wise...Other than that I don't seeing it happening except for maybe Gyms and I would believe Elites too. xD

BUG♥CATCHER★BREEZE
May 8th, 2009, 10:28 AM
Poke is not like pound sterling.

Nor is it like dollars.

It is akin to yen, where a value such as 200 is worth very little. Pokemon being a Japanese franchise, this should be obvious to you.

>D Beat me to the post. Pokédollars are just yen under a weird name. In the Japanese main games even the symbol for money is a yen one. What seems like thousands isn't even a tenner.
When you lose in the game (even to a wild Pokémon) you lose half (less in D/P/Pt - or am I just broke(!) ) of your money. So maybe it's an honour thing (you hand your money to the victor in as some sort of offering) or perhaps the shock of whiting/blacking out means that you lose your money.
It's not gambling, that's moreso the Game Corner and those rip-off addicting scratch cards in Platinum.

Inkfingers
May 22nd, 2009, 03:09 PM
Two words:

credit card

Inferno1
May 22nd, 2009, 08:21 PM
I dont think it would happen like that in real life something tells me even if their were pokemon to get money we would have to have a part time job

Rosefrost
May 22nd, 2009, 08:51 PM
If I lost I'd pretend to be really poor, and if they said: "Those don't look like poor people clothes." I'd say my grandma gave them to me before she died...Either way they'd feel bad about taking my money. :P

Kidding, I wouldn't do that, I'd just say:"Wow Justin Timberlake!" and run, that always works. :P

JeTz
May 22nd, 2009, 11:34 PM
If Pokemon were exist, they will propelly make some money for Pokemon likes

PokePoints which can be use in the PokeMart

PokePoints get when win in a battle from a trainer.

Pokedex will be doin' the recording for PokePoints.

In the PokeCenter, trainer can use their PokePoints to buy some drinks and foods

which PokeCenter is a free place for healing fainted Pokeball.

Well it just all imo

As for Real Money, Earn it yourself, Pokemon doesn't provide Money Robbing System

Feign
May 22nd, 2009, 11:43 PM
Lol... I remember in the days of red and blue that you'd loose half of your money from a full party faint. That seems a bit cruel... Though it teaches you to have a decent party. It would almost seem that staying at a Pokemon centre is free, and perhaps the kitchens are hostle like, where people can take what they need. Though there is a reception area for trainers checking in.

But what I think it really just is, is that they have unlimited funds, without much explanation, just because it is easier that way. This allows those who create the anime to do whatever they want with their characters, while never having to directly answer the question.

Or:

http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/081220.gif

PiGz
May 22nd, 2009, 11:45 PM
If Pokemon were exist, they will propelly make some money for Pokemon likes

PokePoints which can be use in the PokeMart

PokePoints get when win in a battle from a trainer.

Pokedex will be doin' the recording for PokePoints.

In the PokeCenter, trainer can use their PokePoints to buy some drinks and foods

which PokeCenter is a free place for healing fainted Pokeball.

Well it just all imo

As for Real Money, Earn it yourself, Pokemon doesn't provide Money Robbing System
It's not a bad idea, I am quite agree with you. If this world has Pokemon, how nice is it?

JeTz
May 23rd, 2009, 09:58 PM
Lol... I remember in the days of red and blue that you'd loose half of your money from a full party faint. That seems a bit cruel... Though it teaches you to have a decent party. It would almost seem that staying at a Pokemon centre is free, and perhaps the kitchens are hostle like, where people can take what they need. Though there is a reception area for trainers checking in.

But what I think it really just is, is that they have unlimited funds, without much explanation, just because it is easier that way. This allows those who create the anime to do whatever they want with their characters, while never having to directly answer the question.

Or:

http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/081220.gif

Lol funny! If that would happen, it could be robbing

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
May 25th, 2009, 08:09 AM
Lol... I remember in the days of red and blue that you'd loose half of your money from a full party faint. That seems a bit cruel... Though it teaches you to have a decent party. It would almost seem that staying at a Pokemon centre is free, and perhaps the kitchens are hostle like, where people can take what they need. Though there is a reception area for trainers checking in.

But what I think it really just is, is that they have unlimited funds, without much explanation, just because it is easier that way. This allows those who create the anime to do whatever they want with their characters, while never having to directly answer the question.

Or:

http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/081220.gif

lol, thats really funny xD


:t354:TG

Norcinu
May 26th, 2009, 03:06 AM
I think money had to be earned through work like IRL, and winning it on Pokemon battles would be gambling. But think about this, you're stuck out in the wild, surviving dangerous and lethal Pokemon on a daily basis, you've just defeated someone and they have money on them.

Well I'd friggin' roll them XP

♣Gawain♣
May 26th, 2009, 03:11 AM
They must've a gamble or something. But it's only a game, and if there's no giveaway money, there's no fun at all!

ReyRey-Pyon
May 26th, 2009, 10:18 AM
Im going to assume every pokebuck is equal to one cent, so if you get 100 pokebucks from a trainer in the game, I’m assuming its about 1 dollars. So bear with me.

Well in the games you only net out about 50 cents from the youngsters and lasses in the beginning at least, That’s pretty realistic considering they probably only carry that much around, and most things you buy such as pokeballs are about 200 pokebucks,

I can see the rich trainers, Such as Gentlemen and Socialites as “gambling” type people actually, so getting money from them I can see
Rich kids probably would be “show offs” and maybe snobby, going be stereotype here, they have a lot of money, so if they lose, they lose :>

Cool and Ace trainers could probably fit in the over confident category, usually you win about 1000 pokebucks from them, I can see them gambling, over confident because they are an ace/cool trainer, thinking that is a bet they can’t lose

Gym leaders, naturally could give out prize money, I can totally see that, And the Elite four being much stronger could hand out money too.

Even though I don’t see anyone winning money in the cartoon, I could see you winning prize money from certain people. Namely the rich and Leaders.

Lol... I remember in the days of red and blue that you'd loose half of your money from a full party faint. That seems a bit cruel... Though it teaches you to have a decent party. It would almost seem that staying at a Pokemon centre is free, and perhaps the kitchens are hostle like, where people can take what they need. Though there is a reception area for trainers checking in.

But what I think it really just is, is that they have unlimited funds, without much explanation, just because it is easier that way. This allows those who create the anime to do whatever they want with their characters, while never having to directly answer the question.

Or:

http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/081220.gif

Or this ^^
I love VG cats xD



http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/144/3/9/Pkmn_Comic_by_nyu.jpg

Hurrr

Capt. Couch
May 26th, 2009, 01:57 PM
Ha ha, VG Cats. Love it. :)

I could imagine something the system being used in the real world, but only if there were certain regulations on it, since it's gambling, as mentioned before. For example, there would be several different Pokemon licenses, administered according to age, country, et cetera. For example, an American with a Pokemon license specified for age 18+, the legal age of adulthood in the US, would be allowed to bet money on a Pokemon battle (but this would also depend on individual state laws), whereas an American with an age 10-17 license would be forbidden from doing so.

Then again, it is a video game, and the developers can do whatever they want with it.

Barker
May 26th, 2009, 09:08 PM
I'm pretty sure the PokeDollars are based on Yen, and there are usually 90-100 Yen to a dollar, depending on conversion rates.

Giving up a few bucks when you lose (If Pokemon were real) really isn't so far fetched in my opinion.

Lash
May 26th, 2009, 09:56 PM
That system would certainly not still apply with the current economy.

Drew
May 26th, 2009, 10:19 PM
I've always wondered that myself.

Honestly, I think most of the trainers, if that did apply, would find some way around it. People are entirely too greed driven in real life, to fork over 3000 to some stranger for kicking their butt in a battle. :/ I can't really see it happening, unless you happen to run into the occasional mature, respectable Pokemon trainer. They would probably be the ones to end up as Gym Leaders, either that or they'd just have to be rich, and not care that they lost money.

"Man, I hate you! You just owned me in two turns! Go die! ..Oh, but here's 700 dollars!"

Lana.
May 27th, 2009, 12:35 PM
Wellll according to foreword from Professor Oak in my copy of The Official Pokemon Handbook (you know, that book that was a really basic Pokedex from a decade ago?): In addition to all the experience your Pokemon gain, you earna a cash prize for every competition you win.

And note: Oak's context of 'competition' is a little different than what you may think. A page before, he says: If another trainer challenges you to a friendly competition, you must accept. Both bits were under the same heading. So we can assume in the first quote a competition is equivalent to a casual battle.

And, yes, this is anime relevant. Also in the foreword were mentions of the characters from the show. It may be a rule set up by the Pokemon League itself, or an honor code of some sort (probably the former). And like someone said, 300 pokedollars ~= 300 yen ~= three dollars. Not much. Most youngsters/lasses/campers/picnickers give out less than a hundred pokedollars.

So, yeah. From the sounds of it, payment does ocurr in most cases.

Inkfingers
May 27th, 2009, 08:10 PM
Lanee I totally know what you're talking about. I have the same book and use it all the time. It's the greatest isn't it. BTW that's what I read too, but a pokemon attle is knd of like a competion(only you know not as big and it's only two v. two)

BTW I also noticed that in the anime, there is no pay. But keep going with your ideas.

KurlyFries
May 27th, 2009, 09:48 PM
Wellll according to foreword from Porfessor Oak in my copy of The Official Pokemon Handbook (you know, that book that was a really basic Pokedex from a decade ago? yup. it was. I got the special green one.): In addition to all the experience your Pokemon gain, you earna a cash prize for every competition you win.

And note: Oak's context of 'competition' is a little different than what you may think. A page before, he says: If another trainer challenges you to a friendly competition, you must accept. Both bits were under the same heading. So we can assume in the first quote a competition is equivalent to a casual battle.

And, yes, this is anime relevant. Also in the foreword were mentions of the chracters from the show. It may be a rule set up by the Pokemon League itself, or an honor code of some sort (probably the former). And like someone said, 300 pokedollars ~= 300 yen ~= three dollars. Not much. Most youngsters/lasses/campers/picknickers give out less than a hundred pokedollars.

So, yeah. From the sounds of it, payment does ocurr in most cases.

Well, I just figured the "honor code" was a sort of pay-me-or-I'll-set-you-on-fire-with-my-Charmeleon type of system. Either way it still works just fine.

giradialkia
May 27th, 2009, 11:20 PM
Eh, i know they start at 10 in the Anime, but i personally think they are older in the game, at least 12, if not older. I believe that in Gym, League and Frontier battles there'd be cash prizes, but consisting of submittance fees or something...? I dunno.

Opposite Day
May 28th, 2009, 07:47 AM
Lol... I remember in the days of red and blue that you'd loose half of your money from a full party faint. That seems a bit cruel... Though it teaches you to have a decent party. It would almost seem that staying at a Pokemon centre is free, and perhaps the kitchens are hostle like, where people can take what they need. Though there is a reception area for trainers checking in.

But what I think it really just is, is that they have unlimited funds, without much explanation, just because it is easier that way. This allows those who create the anime to do whatever they want with their characters, while never having to directly answer the question.

Or:

http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/081220.gif

....Damn.
I was just scrolling down this thread just to post the very same picture, and you had to beat me to it.

..Damn.

Lana.
May 28th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Well, I just figured the "honor code" was a sort of pay-me-or-I'll-set-you-on-fire-with-my-Charmeleon type of system. Either way it still works just fine.

There's that xDD

Like I said, it's probably a rule anyways. We may not see it in the anime... but Brock has to have some way of buying all of that food, right?

The Bringer!
May 28th, 2009, 04:36 PM
Of course, with their pokemon knocked out, and yours still in fighting condition...
Who's to say you can't just take the money >=)

Inkfingers
May 28th, 2009, 08:45 PM
The pokedex has a way of readig defeat(it reads how the pokemon's health is so when all run out it senses that) and the pokepoints idea is applied here. Pokepoints are sent digitally.

streetends08
May 29th, 2009, 05:15 PM
prob not they don't even do it in the tv showw...they prolly just needed a way to let the player earn money to buy stuff in the games.

Ayselipera
May 30th, 2009, 08:07 AM
I would doubt that. Especially with the amount of
money you get after you win. I don't think there
are alot of 10 year olds with more than 10 dollars
on them or any money at all. If there were actual
pokemon events then maybe you would win a trophy
or some amount of money for winning.

ss501girl
May 30th, 2009, 08:12 AM
well i think they do it in the show even though they dont show it if they run out they could just get it from there parents seeing as most of the m have money.

TRUE_INSANE_KING
May 30th, 2009, 12:09 PM
I Know that i wouldn't pay if i loss. I'd just run away and avoid the person =3.