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JohnJSal
May 9th, 2009, 01:26 AM
In my mind, at least, Platinum seems like the "ultimate" version of Pokemon right now, sort of like Crystal was at the time, and Emerald later. It seems like the one you'd want to use to complete your Pokedex and just generally use as your "main" game.

But I'm wondering if anyone thinks HG/SS will replace Platinum in this regard, given that they will be newer and possibly have features that Platinum doesn't. Anyone have any reason to think this might happen?

Thanks.

dotKarma
May 9th, 2009, 01:30 AM
They already have, for me at least. The whole D/P/Pt games were kind of a turn-off for me. They were never that interesting. Now Gold and Silver and their remakes are another story as I grew up on Gold, but that's just my opinion.


EDIT: Plus it won't have a billion random, pointless Pokemon like D/P/Pt did.

lolwut
May 9th, 2009, 01:31 AM
well don't forget, platinum will probably be outplayed like diamond and pearl by the time it comes out so probably yes. It's probably coming out late 2010 or later, because its only coming out late 2009 in japan and usually it takes a year at least from the time the game comes out in japan for it to come out in english

Hiroshi Sotomura
May 9th, 2009, 01:33 AM
Go look at FireRed and tell me if that has more polish than Emerald.

I think it does. Maybe these games will top Platinum as the "ultimate games". Just maybe.

CollinP
May 9th, 2009, 01:43 AM
Probably.... i mean, gold and silver were the most bought games in america when i was a kid... so...... the remakes should be 10 times better! i mean, fire red was ALOT better than the original red version in my tastes (probably because i was 2 when it came out)

True Reign
May 9th, 2009, 01:46 AM
Pretty much half of the Pokemon fans in the world started with either the cards or the second generation games.

I'm going to guess that HG/SS are going to become, as you said, the 'ultimate' Pokemon game for the next few years.

Kaori
May 9th, 2009, 01:46 AM
To tell you the truth, it's probably going to be the biggest hit ever. A lot of people wanted a GS remake and now, here it is.

Platinum is probably going to be the 2nd biggest hit.

Speed
May 9th, 2009, 01:47 AM
They already have, for me at least. The whole D/P/Pt games were kind of a turn-off for me. They were never that interesting. Now Gold and Silver and their remakes are another story as I grew up on Gold, but that's just my opinion.


EDIT: Plus it won't have a billion random, pointless Pokemon like D/P/Pt did.

It's a remake, so it'll probably have all the pokemon that have been in D/P/Pt, like FR/LG with Johto and Hoenn.

I'm really hyped for this game though, hope it doesn't disappoint.

Gummy
May 9th, 2009, 01:47 AM
Being two of the most anticipated games in Pokemon history BEFORE they were even announced, I'm fairly sure they will steal the title as "Ultimate Pokemon Game" from Platinum.

Twilight Sky
May 9th, 2009, 01:49 AM
To be honest with you, even if I do happen to get these games, it just possibly can't replace Platinum. I mean, at first, everyone was so flipping eager for Platinum, and now since the G/S remakes are apparently going to be out, you're going to throw all that away?

C'mon now. :[

Kaori
May 9th, 2009, 01:53 AM
To be honest with you, even if I do happen to get these games, it just possibly can't replace Platinum. I mean, at first, everyone was so flipping eager for Platinum, and now since the G/S remakes are apparently going to be out, you're going to throw all that away?

C'mon now. :[

Well that may be true...but the only thing is a whole bunch of people loved Gold and Silver and have been waiting and waiting for a remake to confirm. Now that it is confirmed, there's no way they're going to treasure Platinum over the remakes. Maybe a few but still...

dotKarma
May 9th, 2009, 01:54 AM
It's a remake, so it'll probably have all the pokemon that have been in D/P/Pt, like FR/LG with Johto and Hoenn.

I'm really hyped for this game though, hope it doesn't disappoint.

Well, FireRed only had a few Pokemon from Hoenn, plus HG/SS will be able to trade with D/P/Pt, so what's the point of adding the (pointless) 150 more pokemon to the dex if you can get them by doing a quick trade?

Psyburn
May 9th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Well its too much hassle trying to get 2nd vermin in this game, especially since GTS is BS.

Here's hoping they bring back headbutt, THEN il throw plat away. :P

lolwut
May 9th, 2009, 01:59 AM
tbh i really think they shouldve made it like just after emerald for the gameboy advance, because i honestly think its going to be super confusing with the whole story not going from sinnoh to johto and then in johto theres going to be sinnoh pokemon? i think that might ruin the storyline... unless they make it how fire red was, so that its just johto/kanto pokes until the elite four then the national dex and so on and so forth

BeachBoy
May 9th, 2009, 02:01 AM
I'm not sure. I love the Battle Frontier in Platinum sooooo much, so I know I won't just kick it to the curb. But hey, gen II lovers might. XD

So I'll have to wait and see what Heart Gold has to offer.

Penumbra
May 9th, 2009, 02:03 AM
I anticipate it'll be a big seller, and a bigger hit than platinum.
Many people were spazzing about gen 3 and above because
they didn't look like pokemon. Now, we're going back to their
roots.
Personally, HG/SS Tops ANY (I mean ANY)
pokemon game, but that's just my opinion. I loved Platinum's
expanded story and all the neat little features here and there..

But let's face it. Gen 2 is just better. It just is.

Don't throw around the word "replace" so much.

We have a perfect example here:
Ruby, Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, Emerald.

When Emerald was released, people still used anything
before it. Call me insane, but I'll take a wild guess and say
people will still use Platinum, and it won't be "replaced"
by HG/SS. People may prefer it over platinum, but I'll
bet any amount of money that there'll be some kind of
turn-off in HG/SS, and people will recoil to Platinum for
that matter. Even if everything is neat, tidy, and perfect
for the remakes, Wi-Fi will still connect us to Platinum.

Platinum won't be replaced. There'll just be new slots
waiting for the good ole Gen 2 returners.

WeightyWillBill
May 9th, 2009, 02:05 AM
well don't forget, platinum will probably be outplayed like diamond and pearl by the time it comes out so probably yes. It's probably coming out late 2010 or later, because its only coming out late 2009 in japan and usually it takes a year at least from the time the game comes out in japan for it to come out in english


I don't hink so..
Fire Red and Leaf Green were released about the same time in Japan and U.S.
Definitely not LATE 2010. If even 2010 early 2010. I CANNOT WAIT for it!!!!! I can't wait for the features!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JP
May 9th, 2009, 02:08 AM
Usually I get that feeling of replacement as well, but with these remakes, I doubt they'll replace my Platinum. Reason be, Platinum's got all 493 pokemon, and I doubt HG/SS will have all of them... so in my mind, Platinum is still cream of the crop.

Benadryl
May 9th, 2009, 02:10 AM
I don't hink so..
Fire Red and Leaf Green were released about the same time in Japan and U.S.
Definitely not LATE 2010. If even 2010 early 2010. I CANNOT WAIT for it!!!!! I can't wait for the features!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, you're both wrong. If Japan gets it in, say, November, we should expect to receive it in (well July 2010) but if they decide for once not to be sackrocks, we may get it closer to the Japanese release.

EDIT: I forgot what this thread was about. Oh yeah. In short: yes. Platinum is a disappointing game and I predict HG and SS will be much better.

ashketchumandpikachufan
May 9th, 2009, 02:17 AM
I HATE PLATINUM NOW THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE BEST GAMES EVR I CANT WAIT TILL SCREENSHOTS WILL PROBABLY BE SHOWN TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY

spike6958
May 9th, 2009, 02:22 AM
Well i think it will, i expect the HG/SS english release will be around the same time as Plat was this year, so by then you should have done everything that Plat has to offer, and HG/SS will be all shiny and new and exciting and i think that as long as it has Wi-Fi battles then yes the only use Plat will have is as a storage cart for all the Pokemon that no one wants to transfer over.

Forci Stikane
May 9th, 2009, 02:29 AM
Being two of the most anticipated games in Pokemon history BEFORE they were even announced, I'm fairly sure they will steal the title as "Ultimate Pokemon Game" from Platinum.

Games do not always live up to the hype given to them, especially if said hype was in place long before the games were even confirmed. I would not be surprised if these games fall short of everyone's expectations in one form or another, leaving fans to return to Platinum.

On the other hand, there is one part of this that gives me hope: there is a certain factor in Pokemon games that has become predictable, and that is that the "combination" third game in each Generation will be the superior one. Yellow was an improvement on Red/Blue/Green, Crystal was an improvement on Gold/Silver, Emerald was an improvement on Ruby/Sapphire, and Platinum was an improvement on Diamond/Pearl. In the case of FireRed and LeafGreen, these remakes were released before the main Generation's third game--Emerald--came out, meaning that they did not need to improve on a game that had yet to be released. This time, however, the third game of the Generation has already been released, meaning that Nintendo now needs to improve upon it with the coming releases. If Nintendo realizes this, as they most certainly should, then we should be in for two excellent remakes.

Twilite Darkrai
May 9th, 2009, 02:33 AM
Personally, HG/SS Tops ANY (I mean ANY)
Pokémon game, but that's just my opinion. I loved Platinum's
expanded story and all the neat little features here and there..

But let's face it. Gen 2 is just better. It just is.



Amen.

I totally agree with that...

Lionsroar
May 9th, 2009, 02:46 AM
Usually I get that feeling of replacement as well, but with these remakes, I doubt they'll replace my Platinum. Reason be, Platinum's got all 493 pokemon, and I doubt HG/SS will have all of them... so in my mind, Platinum is still cream of the crop.

wait you mean, the new g/s wont have all the pokemon so far? O_o

JohnJSal
May 9th, 2009, 02:46 AM
On the other hand, there is one part of this that gives me hope: there is a certain factor in Pokemon games that has become predictable, and that is that the "combination" third game in each Generation will be the superior one. Yellow was an improvement on Red/Blue/Green, Crystal was an improvement on Gold/Silver, Emerald was an improvement on Ruby/Sapphire, and Platinum was an improvement on Diamond/Pearl. In the case of FireRed and LeafGreen, these remakes were released before the main Generation's third game--Emerald--came out, meaning that they did not need to improve on a game that had yet to be released. This time, however, the third game of the Generation has already been released, meaning that Nintendo now needs to improve upon it with the coming releases. If Nintendo realizes this, as they most certainly should, then we should be in for two excellent remakes.

Exactly what I had in mind when I asked the question. Since they are coming out *after* Pt, I wonder if they will have all of Pt's features and more, or be missing some of them, or some other combination of that.

Usually I get that feeling of replacement as well, but with these remakes, I doubt they'll replace my Platinum. Reason be, Platinum's got all 493 pokemon, and I doubt HG/SS will have all of them... so in my mind, Platinum is still cream of the crop.

This was basically my main concern. I'm spending a lot of time completing my National Pokedex, and then to have another set of games come out so soon (I know it would happen eventually, but so soon?) is sort of disheartening. Almost makes it not worth trying to finish the 'dex. Yeah, I'll have it completed on Pt, but what good will that do after I've moved on to HG/SS?

Lt_Nite
May 9th, 2009, 03:08 AM
As said a lot of times already I'm so excited for these games, and cannot wait. Gen 2 was IMO the best generation, plot and pokemon wise. These games are gonna be huge I think. For me Platinum already got boring and old to me so I went back to play Sapphire, so to answer the OQ, yes it will replace it for me.

Cham
May 9th, 2009, 03:13 AM
I think I will probably play HG/SS more just because I love Gold so much, and my save battery died a long time ago. I really do enjoy Platinum, but Johto and all the memories along with G/S lead me to have a minor bias, just like FR/LG was more enjoyable than R/S/E for me.

ckret2
May 9th, 2009, 03:40 AM
But let's face it. Gen 2 is just better. It just is.

Please to not be throwing around opinions like they are facts. I've been with Pokémon since Yellow came out, I've played Yellow, Gold, Crystal, Sapphire, FireRed/LeafGreen, Emerald, Pearl, and Platinum, and Crystal was the be-all end-all for me personally until Platinum came out; but that's just my opinion.

As for whether HG/SS will "replace" Platinum: I think all the people going "OMG YES GEN II PWNED, IT WILL TOTALLY REPLACE PLAT" have proven their own statements wrong. The older games clearly have staying power, for all these people to be so sure that HG/SS is superior to Platinum before we've seen anything but the logos. (Although those ARE some nice logos.) Will HG/SS replace Platinum? Well, did Platinum replace G/S/C in the minds of all these fans? I would say not. And for the people who really love Platinum, I doubt HG/SS will replace it for them.

But in terms of pure special effects and bonus features, sure, of course Nintendo is going to make sure HG/SS is stuffed silly with new tricks and gizmos and subplots and territories for all of us to gleefully run around like the crazy ecstatic Pokémaniacs we are. So in that way, yeah, it'll definitely "replace" Platinum. Nintendo has already promised that HG/SS will have new features that not even Platinum has. (Personally, I'm hoping for the addition of some International Police characters, since the Johto plot is supposed to be happening concurrently with the Sinnoh plot. In FR/LG--I can't say for sure about all the way back in Gen I because I haven't played those games recently--there's even a guy on the S.S. Anne who claims he's with the International Police, on the tail of Team Rocket. So we know they must exist in the Johto/Kanto area, and I think they'd be neat new characters.)

Although I doubt HG/SS will beat out Platinum as my favorite Pokémon game to date (because no matter what new features it has, it's not going to have the entire Team Galactic cast and plotline), I'm definitely going to squee my heart out when I get my hands on SoulSilver. :D Can't wait for it to get here!

iTzKaizer
May 9th, 2009, 03:47 AM
HG/SS will be the ultimate games and will definitely be better than Platinum, not only because maybe Gen 2 was better, but also because remember Nintendo is releasing a more modern game so they know how to do DS games better. Like the first Spin Offs were only "tests" because they didn't showed what the DS could do. Platinum demostrated it with the Reverse World. Also the story'll be even larger, considering that in FR/LG they added the sevii islands its possible that HG/SS adds some new region or islands too. At least a Battle Frontier or something.

EDIT: Hmmm, I have to state that I really liked Platinum, I don't hate it.

Ninja Tree
May 9th, 2009, 04:02 AM
Definitely. Johto is just the best region ever. People can just transfer their Pokemon.

I was seriously freaking out about the remakes. For a while now, I've wanted to restart on Silver but feared that my battery would soon run out and I'd lose information. I can actually quit playing Pokemon games after I buy Soul Silver <3

Vallander
May 9th, 2009, 05:08 AM
ya know i dont know if anyone ever realized this, but platinum originally was going to be the "metal gen" remake(G/S/C) but at the time D/P was alot more popular so they did a slight remake of it like with crystal and emerald and yellow(since everyone seems to forget this was along the same lines :P)
thats why platinum doesnt follow the "gem" name in the series. the gem games were technically Crystal(being that it was the look into the future of pokemon games :)) along with Ruby sapphire emerald diamond and pearl. but platinum is a metal name like gold and silver.
i actually just heard about these new remakes. i sure hope it will be good. perhaps theyll add more new regions instead of going to just kanto after youre done with johto. like maybe keep hoenn or the sevii islands or battle frontier or something.
but anyway back to the point of this topic (sorry for the huge post just making a statement)
while gold and silver are in my opinion the best of the poke games just because of all of its features which could be revamped to HELL and back thanx to new technology, it is undeniable that platinum is still a good game, because saying that platinum sux says that D/P also sukd, which it did not at all(minus the lack of a real storyline lol)

PokemonMichael
May 9th, 2009, 05:19 AM
I HATE PLATINUM NOW THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE BEST GAMES EVR I CANT WAIT TILL SCREENSHOTS WILL PROBABLY BE SHOWN TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY

Whoa, whoa, thats sort of stupid. You may be waiting a YEAR to get your hands on it, so i wouldnt just toss Platinum aside. Think about it; No Platinum for a year. Youre lucky. Its not even out here yet.

Haza
May 9th, 2009, 05:38 AM
I know. I hate that they will be releasing them so soon but I guess it is a anniversary gift to us fans. I will now have to get the most out of Platinum as I can but I dont feel as if it will replace it. I have always felt like Johto was kinda boring so I will still have a reason to play. Besides, Sinnoh seems futuristic while Johto seems more of the past and historical so they are two different worlds. I wont be playing DP anyomre though.

Cubed
May 9th, 2009, 06:29 AM
I think HG/SS will be great, since I grew up with it. But it definatly wont replace platinum. If its going to replace platinum its going to have these features:

- Battle tower/frontier
- Able to explore another region (oooo). Like johto or summin.
- D/P/Plat compatible
- WiFi

And the question is...when you beat the game (E4), will Arceus, Dialga and Palkia come into the story line ?_?.

Seadiga
May 9th, 2009, 06:31 AM
I think that it will.
You can get LUGIA!!!!!! and Ho-Oh without an event.
It's return of the Johto! Who doesn't LOVE Johto!

So I think it will.

balkj06
May 9th, 2009, 07:24 AM
well there will be more pokmon in the pokedex (not natinal) there any other game patilum had 210
and Gold Sliver had 250 and HGSS will have 250+ 3rd Gen and 4Gen elovitions of the 1 and 2nd Gen so thats like 300 pokemon in the pokedex

~Wind~
May 9th, 2009, 08:09 AM
sorry if this has been mentioned, but are you all forgetting our little friends?
thats right, remember the pokedex entries for shellos and gastrodon? we might get johto AND kanto Shellos/Gastrodons!
and im sure some D/P/Pt. pokemon will come out in it without trades, maybe even sevii islands again, so +more shellos/gastrodon!
think of the posibilities people!
maybe a sub storyline like the ruby and sapphire quest in sevii, like we get to see part of hoenn, or maybe we used to live in sinnoh, or another region, maybe we can see poketopia as the new Battle Frontier!
its great, but unfortunately, i live in england, so platinums gonna be around some tim here, *sigh*

~Aurα

EDIT: i forgot to mention the improvements on EoT and EoD from Explorers of the sky.
~Aurα

Cubed
May 9th, 2009, 08:14 AM
Heres a solution. Get a flash card XD.

and yes sevii islands would be sweeeet

Turnado
May 9th, 2009, 09:01 AM
Go look at FireRed and tell me if that has more polish than Emerald.

I think it does. Maybe these games will top Platinum as the "ultimate games". Just maybe.

I agree with this. But I think that it could go either way, depending on what route they take. I hope that they add new features to the games. That would be amazing.

Mitchman
May 9th, 2009, 09:04 AM
I agree with this. But I think that it could go either way, depending on what route they take. I hope that they add new features to the games. That would be amazing.
It has been stated on top of all the current features some new features will be in. What though I have no idea. It could be a gimmick it could be ground breaking. Also hmm current features. Maybe a frontier? Either way this will surely top platinum for me. I knew it was going to happen sooner or later just not so soon. hell who am I kidding. I knew i was just buying platinum to pass the time till this comes. XD

Kaori
May 9th, 2009, 01:02 PM
As some said, it will depend on the features, add-ons and more. Graphics are already going to be improved as we know that.

It just might be the best game they "ever" made.

CrimsonBurst
May 9th, 2009, 01:14 PM
Does no one want Soul Silver!?

GreenGoblin
May 9th, 2009, 01:20 PM
considering it's a gen 2 remake it may have the kanto region but and added things

Floris2Burn
May 9th, 2009, 01:27 PM
Everyone is talking about replacing their platinum while i'm still waiting for it to be released (end of this month)

Though, I think I will get platinum caus there will still be plenty of time before HG/SS will be released

but those replacing platinum? Can't tell, depends on how they will be.

JP
May 9th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Does no one want Soul Silver!?

Haha, I'd say most people DO want SoulSilver. Last I checked, the poll on deciding which one people want the most was most favorable towards SS rather than HG. :P

Penumbra
May 9th, 2009, 02:01 PM
Didn't bother sizing or formatting since this is going to be one long post. Quoted everyone before me, practically, so..


Well, you're both wrong. If Japan gets it in, say, November, we should expect to receive it in (well July 2010) but if they decide for once not to be sackrocks, we may get it closer to the Japanese release.

EDIT: I forgot what this thread was about. Oh yeah. In short: yes. Platinum is a disappointing game and I predict HG and SS will be much better.

First of all, the anticipated and most likely release date is the anniversary of G/S, along with the figurines coming out. I agree that there's a possibility of getting it closer, though, if Nintendo of America translates the
game fast enough.. After all, we did get Mario & Luigi 2 before Japan.

I HATE PLATINUM NOW THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE BEST GAMES EVR I CANT WAIT TILL SCREENSHOTS WILL PROBABLY BE SHOWN TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY

You hate platinum? Was Roark's Cranidos too tough for you? :(
I highly doubt screenshots this early. First, let's wait for the big
announcement on the 10th, pls.

Well i think it will, i expect the HG/SS english release will be around the same time as Plat was this year, so by then you should have done everything that Plat has to offer, and HG/SS will be all shiny and new and exciting and i think that as long as it has Wi-Fi battles then yes the only use Plat will have is as a storage cart for all the Pokemon that no one wants to transfer over.0

Everything Plat has to offer? Have you ever heard of something called
'Wi-Fi Events'? Platinum WILL live on, and it won't retire that soon.. Don't
treat Platinum like a secondary. You never know what Pt Exclusive events might occur.

Games do not always live up to the hype given to them, especially if said hype was in place long before the games were even confirmed. I would not be surprised if these games fall short of everyone's expectations in one form or another, leaving fans to return to Platinum.

On the other hand, there is one part of this that gives me hope: there is a certain factor in Pokemon games that has become predictable, and that is that the "combination" third game in each Generation will be the superior one. Yellow was an improvement on Red/Blue/Green, Crystal was an improvement on Gold/Silver, Emerald was an improvement on Ruby/Sapphire, and Platinum was an improvement on Diamond/Pearl. In the case of FireRed and LeafGreen, these remakes were released before the main Generation's third game--Emerald--came out, meaning that they did not need to improve on a game that had yet to be released. This time, however, the third game of the Generation has already been released, meaning that Nintendo now needs to improve upon it with the coming releases. If Nintendo realizes this, as they most certainly should, then we should be in for two excellent remakes.

What? Where did you pick up that logic from? No one's commanding Game Freak to make this game better than Pokemon Green. The reason they make it better is not because it has to "live up to expectations" but merely
because the market wants something new and rejuvenating. They could simply add one more TM than there was in Platinum and be done with the "New features".

Amen.

I totally agree with that...

wait you mean, the new g/s wont have all the pokemon so far? O_o

Sinnoh and Johto are two different worlds.
-exits New Bark town.. Wild Starly appeared!-
I NEVER want to see that in my life. Ever.

G/S will probably have a few Hoenn's and Sinnoh inhabitants..
If anything, the pokemon in the game are merely expansions for
the 'Dex in Platinum, since DSi obliterated GBA Slot.

Exactly what I had in mind when I asked the question. Since they are coming out *after* Pt, I wonder if they will have all of Pt's features and more, or be missing some of them, or some other combination of that.

This was basically my main concern. I'm spending a lot of time completing my National Pokedex, and then to have another set of games come out so soon (I know it would happen eventually, but so soon?) is sort of disheartening. Almost makes it not worth trying to finish the 'dex. Yeah, I'll have it completed on Pt, but what good will that do after I've moved on to HG/SS?

Again, HG/SS is meant for the nostalgia and what not, but a bigger chunk of the reason there'll be Johto pokemon is because there's basically no way
to get Johto's with a DSi.

I'm not saying that's the sole purpose, but I'm saying it's a huge plus when they release HG/SS..

As said a lot of times already I'm so excited for these games, and cannot wait. Gen 2 was IMO the best generation, plot and pokemon wise. These games are gonna be huge I think. For me Platinum already got boring and old to me so I went back to play Sapphire, so to answer the OQ, yes it will replace it for me.

It's only natural that games lose their touch. After you explore and find every corner of Johto, Platinum will be calling to you like a siren's song..

I think I will probably play HG/SS more just because I love Gold so much, and my save battery died a long time ago. I really do enjoy Platinum, but Johto and all the memories along with G/S lead me to have a minor bias, just like FR/LG was more enjoyable than R/S/E for me.

I agree completely, except for the FR/LG part. It felt like a whole new game. Aside from that, Johto just has all the memories of a little kid.

Please to not be throwing around opinions like they are facts. I've been with Pokémon since Yellow came out, I've played Yellow, Gold, Crystal, Sapphire, FireRed/LeafGreen, Emerald, Pearl, and Platinum, and Crystal was the be-all end-all for me personally until Platinum came out; but that's just my opinion.

Actually, I'd be willing to take a risk and say that a huge chunk of Poke Fans would prefer Johto over Sinnoh (if they were on equal levelling, of course, as in HG/SS vs D/P/Pt). I must mention that I used the term "IMO" which means "in my opinion". And right now, judging by the humongous explosion of HG/SS supporting banners,
I'd say the majority of PokeCommunity would like to agree with me.

As for whether HG/SS will "replace" Platinum: I think all the people going "OMG YES GEN II PWNED, IT WILL TOTALLY REPLACE PLAT" have proven their own statements wrong. The older games clearly have staying power, for all these people to be so sure that HG/SS is superior to Platinum before we've seen anything but the logos. (Although those ARE some nice logos.) Will HG/SS replace Platinum? Well, did Platinum replace G/S/C in the minds of all these fans? I would say not. And for the people who really love Platinum, I doubt HG/SS will replace it for them.

Older games clearly have staying power? What kind of dimension are you living in? In my world where the grass is green and the sky is blue, newer games tend to have more features than the previous one. No, newer ANYTHING is usually better than the older, let alone games. And Johto>Sinnoh. Even if they take out Kanto, the equation is still there. At this point, I'll firmly plant the ingrained roots and say "I think Johto is superior to Sinnoh, therefore HG/SS>D/P/Pt. "And for the people who really love platinum, I doubt HG/SS will replace it for them." Well, that's really nice. A small problem is that the people who are willing to cling on to platinum is a small minority compared to the humongous amount of fans who are ready to take a trip back to Nostalgia lane.

But in terms of pure special effects and bonus features, sure, of course Nintendo is going to make sure HG/SS is stuffed silly with new tricks and gizmos and subplots and territories for all of us to gleefully run around like the crazy ecstatic Pokémaniacs we are. So in that way, yeah, it'll definitely "replace" Platinum. Nintendo has already promised that HG/SS will have new features that not even Platinum has. (Personally, I'm hoping for the addition of some International Police characters, since the Johto plot is supposed to be happening concurrently with the Sinnoh plot. In FR/LG--I can't say for sure about all the way back in Gen I because I haven't played those games recently--there's even a guy on the S.S. Anne who claims he's with the International Police, on the tail of Team Rocket. So we know they must exist in the Johto/Kanto area, and I think they'd be neat new characters.)

Post is soo long... "tricks", "gizmos".. what exactly are you implying? I always thought the improved GT was better than the GTS, and not just a silly "trick" or "gizmo". You're saying Nintendo has promised new features that Platinum doesn't even have. Don't contradict yourself, now. Just because they add new features, doesn't mean
the features will be top-quality. For example, look at the Wi-Fi plaza.
It was so hyped and booming at the start, but you can't even talk to anyone..

Although I doubt HG/SS will beat out Platinum as my favorite Pokémon game to date (because no matter what new features it has, it's not going to have the entire Team Galactic cast and plotline), I'm definitely going to squee my heart out when I get my hands on SoulSilver. :D Can't wait for it to get here!

Finally, your post is over.. About Team Galactic cast and the plotline. It IS a remake, and not 100% I might add. You never know if we'll uncover where Cyrus has been hiding, or further work of Looker, or a deeper back story in to Charon (he knows Prof. Rowan, Rowan knows Elm, so why shouldn't Elm know Charon?)

HG/SS will be the ultimate games and will definitely be better than Platinum, not only because maybe Gen 2 was better, but also because remember Nintendo is releasing a more modern game so they know how to do DS games better. Like the first Spin Offs were only "tests" because they didn't showed what the DS could do. Platinum demostrated it with the Reverse World. Also the story'll be even larger, considering that in FR/LG they added the sevii islands its possible that HG/SS adds some new region or islands too. At least a Battle Frontier or something.

EDIT: Hmmm, I have to state that I really liked Platinum, I don't hate it.

Battle frontier is very likely, new islands? no. They just added that in FR/LG so we could obtain some Johto critters, and that's about it. Oh, and to give some more light on the Rocket plot..

Definitely. Johto is just the best region ever. People can just transfer their Pokemon.

I was seriously freaking out about the remakes. For a while now, I've wanted to restart on Silver but feared that my battery would soon run out and I'd lose information. I can actually quit playing Pokemon games after I buy Soul Silver <3

What? that makes no sense at all. You're going to quit playing Pokemon AFTER you buy Soul Silver?? Huh!?

ya know i dont know if anyone ever realized this, but platinum originally was going to be the "metal gen" remake(G/S/C) but at the time D/P was alot more popular so they did a slight remake of it like with crystal and emerald and yellow(since everyone seems to forget this was along the same lines :P)
thats why platinum doesnt follow the "gem" name in the series. the gem games were technically Crystal(being that it was the look into the future of pokemon games :)) along with Ruby sapphire emerald diamond and pearl. but platinum is a metal name like gold and silver.

And who exactly told you this? It makes sense and all, but is there any real concrete evidence from Game Freak, saying Platinum was supposed to be the remake name? That makes no sense at all, seeing as

1) They have been working on HG/SS since (suspected by Fans,) the release of FR/LG, which means they already planned Heart AND Soul.
How could it be one game?

2) Platinum is a perfect name for Giratina. It was something like Girasol (It's gem) + Platina (the colour or something) = GiraTina.
Platinum doesn't even make sense. It'd be a whole new game in
the Johto series.

3) If it WAS intended to be one game, don't you think it's be "Sparkling Crystal" or something, a remake of Crystal?

i actually just heard about these new remakes. i sure hope it will be good. perhaps theyll add more new regions instead of going to just kanto after youre done with johto. like maybe keep hoenn or the sevii islands or battle frontier or something.

Gen 1 + 2 = Good. Gen 2 + 3 or 4 = weird. Again, they're two different worlds.. I seriously doubt 3 regions in one game..

but anyway back to the point of this topic (sorry for the huge post just making a statement)
while gold and silver are in my opinion the best of the poke games just because of all of its features which could be revamped to HELL and back thanx to new technology, it is undeniable that platinum is still a good game, because saying that platinum sux says that D/P also sukd, which it did not at all(minus the lack of a real storyline lol)


Word to your mother.

Whoa, whoa, thats sort of stupid. You may be waiting a YEAR to get your hands on it, so i wouldnt just toss Platinum aside. Think about it; No Platinum for a year. Youre lucky. Its not even out here yet.

I agree. Platinum will be calling you back after you're done with HG/SS.

I know. I hate that they will be releasing them so soon but I guess it is a anniversary gift to us fans. I will now have to get the most out of Platinum as I can but I dont feel as if it will replace it. I have always felt like Johto was kinda boring so I will still have a reason to play. Besides, Sinnoh seems futuristic while Johto seems more of the past and historical so they are two different worlds. I wont be playing DP anyomre though.

That H is so cool. Anyway, it is a tad early. But now that we know about it, we wish it could be released tomorrow. Johto and Boring should never go in the same sentence! Morty's gym was so fun, the burned Tin Tower and the new Tin Tower gave so much story, don't forget the extra 8 Gym Leaders from Kanto. Sinnoh = futuristic.. Not really. Modern Day is more appropriate. Johto DID seem more Japanese-themed and classical, but that's one of the many features fans loved. By the way, Sinnoh and Johto are supposedly taking place at the same time, so..

I think HG/SS will be great, since I grew up with it. But it definatly wont replace platinum. If its going to replace platinum its going to have these features:

- Battle tower/frontier That's pretty much a given.
- Able to explore another region (oooo). Like johto or summin. Huh? what? For all these years, I thought Pokemon Gold and Silver took place in Johto? So you're saying they should allow us to explore the region all over again? Can't you just start a new game?
- D/P/Plat compatible That's a given. Part of the reason of the remakes is so we could obtain Johto's on our Plat.
- WiFi Oh c'mon. Just because they're gen 2, doesn't mean they'll have gen 2 features. T_T' Again, THAT IS A GIVEN.

And the question is...when you beat the game (E4), will Arceus, Dialga and Palkia come into the story line ?_?.


Arceus!? That's not even in Platinum ffs. Dialga and Palkia, the masters of Time and Space are meant for Sinnoh. Sorry. For now, we have to rely on the Sunny and Rainy day masters, Lugia and Ho-Oh. I DO hope they add more legends. Platinum was Jam-Packed with 'em.

I think that it will.
You can get LUGIA!!!!!! and Ho-Oh without an event.
It's return of the Johto! Who doesn't LOVE Johto!

So I think it will.

LUGIA!!!!! ftw. Also, you could still get Lugia and Ho-Oh w/o
an event either way. All you need is a lot of time on your hands, a
gamecube, and GBA-GC Connector, strong pokemon, and Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness + Pokemon Colosseum.. Yeah, on second thought, let's stick to HG/SS.

well there will be more pokmon in the pokedex (not natinal) there any other game patilum had 210
and Gold Sliver had 250 and HGSS will have 250+ 3rd Gen and 4Gen elovitions of the 1 and 2nd Gen so thats like 300 pokemon in the pokedex

I'm sorry, but what are you trying to prove here? What if it has more
pokemon than platinum? Will your life change?

sorry if this has been mentioned, but are you all forgetting our little friends?
thats right, remember the pokedex entries for shellos and gastrodon? we might get johto AND kanto Shellos/Gastrodons!
and im sure some D/P/Pt. pokemon will come out in it without trades, maybe even sevii islands again, so +more shellos/gastrodon!
think of the posibilities people!
maybe a sub storyline like the ruby and sapphire quest in sevii, like we get to see part of hoenn, or maybe we used to live in sinnoh, or another region, maybe we can see poketopia as the new Battle Frontier!
its great, but unfortunately, i live in england, so platinums gonna be around some tim here, *sigh*

~Aurα

EDIT: i forgot to mention the improvements on EoT and EoD from Explorers of the sky.
~Aurα


Those are good ideas.. Maybe they'll keep the Shellos west and Shellos east sprites, though. Some of that is too far for one game, like subplots with the Sevii's and what not, but those are still good ideas.

Heres a solution. Get a flash card XD.

and yes sevii islands would be sweeeet

Flash card ftw.

It has been stated on top of all the current features some new features will be in. What though I have no idea. It could be a gimmick it could be ground breaking. Also hmm current features. Maybe a frontier? Either way this will surely top platinum for me. I knew it was going to happen sooner or later just not so soon. hell who am I kidding. I knew i was just buying platinum to pass the time till this comes. XD

Yup. We all KNEW it was coming. We just had some doubts about when..
Now that it's announced, there's no stopping us from going full blast and murdering Pokemon HG/SS.. All we need now is patience.

As some said, it will depend on the features, add-ons and more. Graphics are already going to be improved as we know that.

It just might be the best game they "ever" made.

Hopefully..

Does no one want Soul Silver!?

Actually, on a poll, most people preferred Soul Silver..


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zerwey
May 9th, 2009, 03:37 PM
To tell you the truth, it's probably going to be the biggest hit ever. A lot of people wanted a GS remake and now, here it is.

Platinum is probably going to be the 2nd biggest hit.

Agreed.
But the fact that it's a remake and not an entirely new game will turn some fans off.

lvl99rayquaza
May 9th, 2009, 03:42 PM
Agreed.
But the fact that it's a remake and not an entirely new game will turn some fans off.
they wont replace thinkof the trades you can do. just send all of your beefed up platinum pokemon back in forth if needed. USA gets pokemon games second and I think it is because they want to keep up foreign relations after what happened at hiroshima and nagasaki.

Alexithymia~
May 9th, 2009, 05:13 PM
They're not going to magically replace all the Platinum games in the shop.
I'm still gonna buy both. They won't be out for ages so people will still buy platinum to satisfy their pokemon cravings until that time.

JohnJSal
May 9th, 2009, 05:17 PM
Heres a solution. Get a flash card XD.

What would that be for? A way to transfer the pokedex from Pt to HG/SS?

fenyx4
May 9th, 2009, 05:54 PM
IMO, I don't think so. Yeah, I've been waiting for HG/SS ever since I finished FireRed, but I'm also waiting to try out Platinum as well. I'm one of the probably miniscule number of Pokemon fans who still doesn't have a DS, or DPPt. :( Sad, I know. But I'm also one of the Pkmn fans who hasn't tried out GS yet. (Pokemon anime hooked me, then Digimon anime called to me, then Pokemon Sapphire hooked me ever since, achieving balance between both franchises. Long story, though...)

Anyway, DPPt and HG/SS still look promising as new adventures to me, so I'm eager for both! Though I can't truly respond to the topic at hand since I haven't played Platinum, I can make a similar albeit weaker comparison to Emerald and FR/LG. I loved playing through FireRed, don't get me wrong. (Orange Isles+Crew would've been preferred over Sevii, but Sevii was OK, I guess) But Emerald trumped it for me. Even though I've played Sapphire (and now Emerald) like a million times already, Emerald just had a certain touch. Probably the Btl Frontier, or unexpected Trainer Hill, or the revised plot. Even now, I can still handle monotonous sessions in the E4 and the Frontier of Emerald (or maybe it's because I'm patient and I can endure stuff like that. Or it's the only thing I can play now until Platinum and HG/SS :P).

Nevertheless, FR has its own touch as well. Even though it becomes REALLY boring after the Kanto Pokemon League and Sevii side-quest, it'll probably (to me) always feel like a newer adventure, simply because it captures the classics of the Pokemon franchise, and I haven't played it as much as I have RSE.

However, comparisons between RSE and FR/LG don't really hold any water when considering DPPt and HG/SS, most likely because all the experiences and playthroughs are different in some way. Whether HG/SS replaces Platinum depends on how much you love GSC, I suppose. But until HG/SS is released (since some new features might detract GSC fans if they are for the worse), we can't say for sure.

For me personally, most likely HG/SS = Pt, based on what I've heard about both games, as well as the fact that both will be all-new experiences for me. But with Gen. III, Emerald > FR/LG > Ru/Sa. But for those whose infatuation with GSC surpasses their love for all other main series games, including Platinum, HG/SS will most likely replace Platinum, due to its GSC similarity plus new features in Gen IV.

The slight feeling of HG/SS's repetiveness/familarity (due to being remakes of games people may have played before), though, would probably be the only reason,if any, that Platinum won't get replaced by GSC lovers. But, considering the clamor for HG/SS since Gen. III, that reason does not seem like it will matter, anyway. :)

Zackraa
May 9th, 2009, 05:55 PM
No it will not

The gold and silver games were the crappiest pokemon games I had ever played though the pokemon and towns were good the gameplay (what I mean by this is the level of diificulty) was crap you can straight shot the entire game with feraligatr and 2 HM slaves nothing else required if they leave kanto out of this game I'll cry tears of joy because kanto made the level inclination next to nothing it was what? a 1 degree level rising incline in most of the other games the level from one gym to the next was 8-12 levels difference then the last gym to the pokemon league has a 10-14 level difference with a steadily rising incline in the elite 4 itself

I liked the pokemon some of my faves were Feraligatr, Furret, Tyranitar, Ariados, Lugia and Noctowl in fact they were my team, I loved the characters and the region as well but it was made too easy becase of the existance of kanto I hope that kanto will be a Battle frontier only type of thing so the rest of the game mainly johto can be made challenging

Kaori
May 9th, 2009, 06:20 PM
Most likely HG and SS is going to hit number 1. A few people will buy Platinum, but since this is a remake of an old, old game...most likely a lot of people are going to be interested in HS and SS more.

FinalEclipse
May 9th, 2009, 08:38 PM
i hope whatever they do they put the pokegear on the touch screen that would be awesome.

i think HG/SS will replace platinum seeing as platinum was said to be better than it was in my opinion

platinum will still be fun to play when HeartGold comes out but lets face it whenever a new game comes out the previous game loses a lot of attention

BlueShadow
May 9th, 2009, 09:11 PM
I think that the remakes will be the best games. I mean they will have the features of the original G/S, like the radio(I always liked that), and Bug catch contests.Plus the features that D/P/Pl have like, the GTS, Wifi Plaza, Super Contests, more move tutors, new weather(just imagine mahogany town being a snowy town like snowpoint city), seals, and a lot more. They probably will add MORE features and maybe they will add more music to the radio, make the move whirlpool a HM again, and add the headbutt trees.

You will be able to go to Johto and Kanto region!! (I liked that too!!)

So HG/SS will be the best games.

Kaori
May 9th, 2009, 11:39 PM
I just saw a screenshot of it and I must say, it looks great already.

Yes the graphics are like D/P/PT but it is just so awesome that the starter follows you.

I don't know if Platinum will be able to outstand these speculations.

Lynx
May 9th, 2009, 11:41 PM
Did FRLG replace Emerald? No, they're different games.

Netto Azure
May 10th, 2009, 12:03 AM
No I do not think this is the case. Yes people will probably get HGSS more than Pl but we still have a year left around the world until we get translations. So Platinum will still sell.

PokeGear APPS!!! I WANT MORE THAN 4! XD

white lancer
May 10th, 2009, 12:31 AM
This thread is making the assumption that Platinum is "the" definitive Pokémon game out there, the practically undisputed champion of Pokémon games. Well, perhaps in terms of technology it is, but I really think there is no "definitive" Pokémon game. I've always seen the Pokémon franchise as having one of the most broken fanbases (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrokenBase) of all games; there's a lot of dispute over which games are the best. It tends to depend upon the games you started with; many people who started with R/S/E, for example, think Gen III is the best, while those who started in the beginning (like me) are oftentimes split between Gen I and Gen II, and a lot of the original fans will flat out tell you that anything after Gen II sucked (I'm not one of those, by the way; I did enjoy Emerald and LeafGreen, even if it wasn't my favorite generation). The newest Pokémon game is always gonna have a lot of followers based on the amount of advances it has, hence the amount of support for Platinum. But if there were to be a poll among Pokémon fans everywhere, I think we'd see a pretty even split.

That being said, I don't think HGSS is going to cut into Platinum sales. It might actually increase sales because of people like me who don't yet have a DS but who are considering getting one because of the remakes. If I get a DS, I will probably pick up Platinum and maybe Diamond or Pearl, as well, and I'm sure I can't be the only one.

BlueShadow
May 10th, 2009, 01:07 AM
I just saw a screenshot of it and I must say, it looks great already.

Yes the graphics are like D/P/PT but it is just so awesome that the starter follows you.

I don't know if Platinum will be able to outstand these speculations.

I just saw a screenshot of the starter pokemon following the player, too.
I think that it's awesome, now I'll see totodile all the time, lol!

Here is the screenshot:

http://gamerlimit.com/2009/05/heart-gold-soul-silver-first-screenshots/

Virtual Chatot
May 10th, 2009, 01:10 AM
I've an oldie, the 2nd generation was an amazing step up from the first generation. I remember buying Gold at Wallmart and then playing it for three days straight.

Second generation was the generation, I would have completely dropped Pokemon had it not been for Johto.

JohnJSal
May 10th, 2009, 02:19 AM
Not sure how the conversation started to slide into discussion of whether HG/SS will cut into Pt sales. I never mentioned anything about sales. The main point I was wondering about was, if you complete your pokedex in Pt, then what do you do in HG/SS? Complete it again, or not bother?

Omer.
May 10th, 2009, 02:56 AM
well don't forget, platinum will probably be outplayed like diamond and pearl by the time it comes out so probably yes. It's probably coming out late 2010 or later, because its only coming out late 2009 in japan and usually it takes a year at least from the time the game comes out in japan for it to come out in english

It will NOT take a year between releases. I think we should expect an English version of the games in mid-2010, as there's a lot of things to fix when it comes to languages. The game does have 16 gyms over 2 regions (maybe 3), and plenty of Pokemon, so I think that it'll take a while before we get Hg/Ss in English.

And to answer the question, yes, Hg/Ss will replace Platinum, but not by a long shot. People will still play Platinum to squeeze out all the Sinnoh Pokemon, and then transfer the games to Hg/Ss. I just hope they don't make Hg/Ss exclusive to the DSi.

Sublime
May 10th, 2009, 02:58 AM
Of course not.
Did FR/LG replace Emerald?
It's just the hype talking.

Omer.
May 10th, 2009, 03:01 AM
No I do not think this is the case. Yes people will probably get HGSS more than Pl but we still have a year left around the world until we get translations. So Platinum will still sell.

PokeGear APPS!!! I WANT MORE THAN 4! XD

You reminded me of the PokeGear. I think it will be replaced by the Poketch, and the company will have it's HQ somewhere in Johto, possibly Goldenrod City. But maybe you'll get the thing at the same time you got the PokeGear?

Åzurε
May 10th, 2009, 03:03 AM
Well, I bet it'll at least be a way to get Celebi. I'll probably keep my platinum handy for the Frontier, and... Ok, Gen 2 is pwnage incarnate, but still. Platinum won't go extinct. Hell no.

Edito: Woah. That made like 8 posts before I got mine out. O.o This is going overbard. I meant it. Overbard.

Benadryl
May 10th, 2009, 03:13 AM
Agreed.
But the fact that it's a remake and not an entirely new game will turn some fans off.
WHAT?!!? LOL

You do realize that Platinum is exactly like DP with miniscule and uneventful changes, right? The transition between GS and HGSS will look like a completely different series compared to DP and Platinum.

So that argument is kind of moot... even disregarding the fact that FireRed and LeafGreen were better and more hyped games than Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald combined.

Ultima0071
May 10th, 2009, 05:38 AM
I really don't think HG/SS will even come close to replacing Platinum. It is simply a remake to relive the pokemon and the storyline. I will however be playing it much more than Platinum simply because your starter follows you ;D

Sweet Smoochum
May 10th, 2009, 06:36 AM
I don't think HG/SS will completely "replace" Platinum seeing as these are entirely different games w/ their own unique features. FireRed & LeafGreen have the flashback and Vs. Seeker. RBY had the Mew cheat w/out Action replay. G/S/C had 2 regions, a radio, and the only rival who was a criminal. R/S/E are the only ones w/ Dive as an HM. DPP have the underground and are the first to use Wifi. Platinum had a new Battle Frontier and a Villa, and the use of Flashlight in Fantina's gym. (Totally makes sense; they should replace HM/TM Flash w/ a Flashlight.) Yellow version had a Pikachu follow you and you were able to obtain all 3 starters w/out trading. ^_^ As for me, I still play all the games. I'm sure there are those of you who do the same thing as well.

~Kawaii~
May 10th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Of course it wont, I dont own Platinum, nor do I want it, I'm happy with Diamond, and yeah, I am hyped up over HG/SS, but Platinum wont be replaced by it.

Glaceon_
May 10th, 2009, 10:33 AM
Its very possible that it will replace Platinum in terms of popularity; particularly if they keep the Johto-Kanto connection open for use. G/S had a phenomenal amount to do in it and with the DS cartridge capabilities, possibly a whole lot more on the top. One in particular I'm hoping comes from it is the Safari Zone. I don't mind if they keep it closed for a certain length of time, so long as they have it in there, because I missed that place in Generation II... =(

But for me personally, I don't think that HeartGold will replace my Platinum. Platinum just barely replaced my other Pokemon game, and that was only because of the Move Tutors. XD

PatJamma
May 10th, 2009, 10:39 AM
it replaced it a long time ago

burningfoot
May 10th, 2009, 10:41 AM
GSDS (I'm calling them that 'cos HGSS is a bit of a mouthful.) can't replace Platinum at the top because you can't get to the top by replacing something that's not the top. The real question is will it be better than the originals? The original Gold is still in my view the best Pokemon game of all time so I've been waiting for this.

I have to say Nintendo timed the announcement terribly. They've taken a knife to the neck of the British Platinum sales by announcing a new game that everyone wants more just before Platinum is released.

.inLOVE
May 10th, 2009, 01:00 PM
I'm almost completely sure that these remakes will outdo Platinum, at least for a while. People have been waiting for 10 years for Gold/Silver remakes, but they didn't wait that long for Platinum.

Mitchman
May 10th, 2009, 01:08 PM
GSDS (I'm calling them that 'cos HGSS is a bit of a mouthful.) can't replace Platinum at the top because you can't get to the top by replacing something that's not the top. The real question is will it be better than the originals? The original Gold is still in my view the best Pokemon game of all time so I've been waiting for this.

I have to say Nintendo timed the announcement terribly. They've taken a knife to the neck of the British Platinum sales by announcing a new game that everyone wants more just before Platinum is released.
Actually platinum had the largest number in sales for week one alone. So I can easily see this being the top. For HGSS I think it could be the top sooner or later. People will find out about 2 regions and jump on this like badgers. British sales won't be affected. This is for Japan. How many people will really know about this? XD

Ayselipera
May 10th, 2009, 09:37 PM
I think Heart Gold and Soul Silver will have a bigger effect than Platinum did. Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum were all big dissapointments for me. I really don't know what it is, but there was just nothing spectacular about them.

On the flip side I hear so many people say how much they loved gold and silver and how they have wanted these remakes for so long. I too also craved a remake especially when the IV generation was such a dissapointment. A lot of people also agree that Johto was the best region ever even I say so! I miss it so much<33 I really think these remakes are going to be a big hit.

SilverLink
May 10th, 2009, 09:57 PM
Oh god don't do a crystal remake.....

iTzKaizer
May 14th, 2009, 12:54 AM
They won't replace them, now that I think of it ad I'm not as exited as I was a few days ago, when I said they'll completely outclass Platinum.

It'll have a bigger impact in pokemon fans, and people that played G/S/C that are now adults'll want to try out these games for nostalgic factors.

You know, many people are saying these'll be their final games.

Kyone
May 14th, 2009, 12:57 AM
^I highly doubt it'll be their final game, Pokémon is bringing in a lot of money for them to end now.

Though, I don't think these remakes will outclass or replace Platinum, because for one they are both two different games taking place in two different regions. Both of the games will be in their own position of popularity in some way, but I still do not think it'll replace Pt.

Psyburn
May 14th, 2009, 01:12 AM
If they lose Honey trees, Beldum's low catch rate, and poke radar, it will for me :D

Kaori
May 14th, 2009, 02:28 AM
Most likely the way everyone is awing over the graphics and things like that. Also how we now know that the starter follows you.

Aether
May 14th, 2009, 03:11 AM
Perhaps, it depends on the availability of Pokemon, moves, content, etc.

Kyone
May 20th, 2009, 05:56 PM
With recent news, I just thought of something. With the release of the GSDS remakes then it can more than likely promote the use of Platinum for trading and avalability of Pokémon. Also, if they use a lot of new features that can connect Platinum with HeartGold and SoulSilver, then it'll more than likely want people who haven't done so as yet, buy Platinum.

Sweet Smoochum
May 20th, 2009, 06:14 PM
I don't think HG/SS will replace Platinum. If anything, it would be an addition to Platinum. If people like HG/SS and they don't have Platinum, they might go out and get Platinum. I'm going to be playing both games together. (Like I do w/ FrLg and R/S/E.) They're both unique games with their own qualities. Maybe by playing HG/SS, I'll play Platinum more as well. (Like how FrLg made me like Emerald more.) At the moment, Platinum is where I take all my old pokes and import them into the game, then I do new games in LG and R/E. Now, I can play Johto/(Kanto) and Sinnoh side by side. :)

Kyone
May 20th, 2009, 06:18 PM
I'm not speaking for anyone else but myself, but for me, I'm going to be playing both games together. (Like I do w/ FrLg and R/S/E.) They're both unique games with their own qualities. Maybe by playing HG/SS, I'll be more appreciative towards Platinum. I'm not going to give up Platinum just because HG/SS. I'll like playing both. Seeing HG/SS will make me like Platinum more as well. Right now, Platinum is where I take all my old pokes and import them into the game, then I do new games in LG and R/E. Now, I can have Johto/(Kanto) and Sinnoh side by side. :) I'm probably not making any sense, but if you get what I'm saying. You're awesome.

I'm pretty sure what you mean is that even after you get GSDS for yourself, then you'll still continue to play Platinum. Also, with the new remakes, it'll also get you to play Platinum more than you do now. Am I right? If so, then I actually agree on you with this one, because I know for usre I'll be interacting with both games together for Pokédex purposes and more.

Psyburn
May 20th, 2009, 06:20 PM
With the release of the GSDS remakes then it can more than likely promote the use of Platinum for trading and avalability of Pokémon.

Welcome to the pokemon franchise? :P

Kyone
May 20th, 2009, 06:24 PM
Actually, the GSDS games will probably promote Platinum more than any other Pokémon game promoted the othe rprevious versions.

Kaori
May 20th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Well with the news coming along I am sure this remake is going to be a lot more popular. Of course it wouldn't replace Platinum, but it will be the top game most likely.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
May 24th, 2009, 04:09 PM
it wont get replaced by Heart Gold and SOul Silver. But I know what you mean, all of my Pokemon are in Platinum and when SS comes out then I'm going to bring all of those Pokemon into SS


:t354:TG

Kaori
May 24th, 2009, 04:24 PM
Well with Platinum being a bit popular these days, I am thinking it will be a bit popular for at least a little while. Though when these remakes are finally released in America, I don't think it'll be too popular and it will probably be replaced.

Pingouin_7
May 26th, 2009, 11:50 PM
I prefer FR/LG over Emerald and HG/SS over Platinum, just so you know.

I'm gonna clone my legendaries once in Emerald, transfer one set to Platinum, to be traded to Soul Silver later, then I'll trade the second set of legendaries to Fire-Red. FR/LG just has MANY MORE ways of training out of re-battling the E4, since we couldn't re-battle every trainers in Emerald and we couldn't make them re-battle at any moment we wanted. Also in FR/LG there's Sevii Islands to explore while in Emerald there's nothing.

Kyone
May 26th, 2009, 11:51 PM
I doubt HeartGold and SoulSilver will replace it, just more people might purchase it then the amount that bought Platinum. Basically because more people wanted this over Platinum to begin with.

Miss Soupy
May 26th, 2009, 11:58 PM
I do think that it'll replace Platinum as the "ulitmate" Pokemon game for me, regarding features, gameplay lenth, etc. I personally wasn't into the whole DP/Pt storyline, and GSC provided my favorite storyline in Pokemon games.

Platinum was a rehash imo. Many fans had the chance to play the originals of D/P. But to the newer generations, HG/SS will be a new experience. As unfortunate as it is, the originals are no longer that easier to get a hold of. So this remake will give newcomers to the series a chance to play what I call the gem of the series.

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And of course, if the two regions are kept - which they likely will be, since I see no reason as to why they could possibly be removed- it'll really add to that "wow" factor rather than the Battle Frontier.

But I'm biased. I didn't like DP/Pt but adored GSC loads. xD;;;;

Kaori
May 27th, 2009, 12:51 AM
It'll most likely replace Platinum as the "ultimate" game yes, but probably not the whole game. They're both different regions, different journies, and different storylines. HG&SS will probably replace a few things of Platinum but not the entire game.

Meganium Ex
May 27th, 2009, 03:27 AM
New member here, hey guys. :)

Anyway, in some way, yes, I think HG/SS will replace Platinum as the "ultimate" game in some way, at least for me. But if it doesn't include certain features, such as the Battle Frontier, I don't think it'll completely replace Platinum.

Lt. Silver
May 27th, 2009, 07:11 AM
My other games will be completely untouched once I get SoulSilver

NatureKeeper
May 27th, 2009, 10:00 AM
If they're thinkning of making Pokémon TearCrystal then dude Platinum's in trouble.

But I like Platinum more than HeartGold so far, though I didn't play either.

And Emerald, which is 3rd Generation's Platinum, was liked more than firered and leafgreen, the 3rd Generation's HeartGold and SoulSilver.

Guys, It looks like people ae heading to SoulSilver XD

Virtual Chatot
May 27th, 2009, 11:15 AM
Since I didn't feel the need to buy Platinum, I believe HG/SS will be my "ultimate" game.
But since I got into Pokemon during the G/S generation, they are going to be really special for me.

Balaczter
May 27th, 2009, 11:58 AM
Gradually, Platinum will be outdated, just like now it's almost a joke to play LeafGreen unless you're getting Kanto Pokemon for D/P/Pt.

But, just as in the LeafGreen/FireRed with Sapphire, Ruby or Emerald, you can probably trade all the new Pokemon onto HeartGold and SoulSilver.

To be honest, much as I love Platinum, HG/SS will probably overtake Platinum. The newest games always overtake the older ones.

But D/P/Pt will always have a place in my heart and soul. :D -excuse the pun-

Kaori
May 27th, 2009, 01:46 PM
Gradually, Platinum will be outdated, just like now it's almost a joke to play LeafGreen unless you're getting Kanto Pokemon for D/P/Pt.

But, just as in the LeafGreen/FireRed with Sapphire, Ruby or Emerald, you can probably trade all the new Pokemon onto HeartGold and SoulSilver.

To be honest, much as I love Platinum, HG/SS will probably overtake Platinum. The newest games always overtake the older ones.

But D/P/Pt will always have a place in my heart and soul. :D -excuse the pun-

You make a good point. Diamond and Pearl got outdated since Platinum came out. So there is a possibility that Platinum will be outdated by who knows how much, but just not absolutely replaced, yet.

Leon K. Fox
May 27th, 2009, 01:53 PM
They will probably have new features exclusive to the 2 games, but unless they make all the Sinnoh Pokemon available in HG/SS, then I don't see it COMPLETLEY replacing it

Hypergaming
May 27th, 2009, 02:07 PM
I feel that HG and SS will replace Platinum in my mind for completing the pokedex, but I will continue to use the Platinum/ pearl game as my online trading game.

Kyone
May 27th, 2009, 03:16 PM
For some players it may replace Platinum because they may prefer to play the new GSDS games over it, but for others they might take good use of both games to complete the Pokédex and work on great teams too.

sirboulevard
May 28th, 2009, 03:51 AM
I kinda want it too. GSC were always superior games. Plat will probably be equal to it. Like how Emerald was = to FRLG

LoversEnd
May 28th, 2009, 03:55 AM
Well I think it will replace it but I doubt it will take it out of the picture completely

kissing. raindrops
May 28th, 2009, 04:12 AM
Yes, of course. I'll most likely drop my Platinum for a very long time once HGSS comes out.

pokerus34
May 28th, 2009, 04:14 AM
It will be a tough competition between Platinum and HGSS fans...

Platinum won't get replaced, but many will go HGSS...

.light
May 28th, 2009, 07:08 AM
For me either hg or ss will be the main...

Pan!ko
May 28th, 2009, 09:58 AM
To me Platinum was not much of an improvement compared to DP. Soul Silver will become my main for sure. After all, Silver was my first ever game i got and it remains as my favourite game of all time. I'll buy Heart Gold as well but it will be my secondary game for trading.

Kyone
May 28th, 2009, 12:55 PM
For me, I will still play Platinum sometimes, but I know I'll be more into SoulSilver if it lives up to its name like the original.

XPrimalDialgaX
May 28th, 2009, 06:25 PM
hmm... i think so... well actually no.
when red blue ruled yellow came out. EPIC !!!YOU DIDNT HAVE TO CHOSE BETWEEN VERSIONS!
Gold Silver the same. CRYSTAL! OMG BEST GAME EVER PERIOD!
ruby sapphire: OMG EMERALD SO EPIC!
Diamond pearl: YEE HAA YOU CAN CATCH GRATINA DIALGA PALKIA HEATREAN MESPRIT UXIE AZELF ZAPDOS MOLTRES ARTICUNO! HOW GREAT CAN IT BE?

alright so now we are with the 2nd gen remakes... if the like made pokemon crystalClear (i dont know?) then that would deffinitley rule platinum.

why didnt they make a yellow remake?

Kyone
May 28th, 2009, 06:28 PM
They wouldn't have needed to remake Crystal or Yellow if they had FRLG.

Also, with every new games comes more popularity to it, but that doesn't necessarily rule out Platinum still. It's still a pretty new game and popular too.

Vaskituh
May 28th, 2009, 10:36 PM
Tottaly different games, none will replace any really, it's just a matter of playing a little more or less after finishing one of the two..

Kyone
May 28th, 2009, 10:38 PM
^ Exactly. Two different regions, entirely different Pokémon originated in their place, difference in plots, and different preferences for people all play a factor in how popular each game is. So, for some Platinum will be replaceed, and for others it'll just be as equally or more their favorite as the next.

Tsukiyo
May 29th, 2009, 03:07 AM
I don't see HG and SS replacing Platinum as a 'main game'. I doubt the GTS will be incorporated, for one, and as it is set in an earlier generation, not all Pokemon will be available.

It'll almost definitely overshadow it in popularity, though, at least for a while. People have been looking for a remake of these for ages.

Kyone
May 29th, 2009, 03:12 AM
In addition to what was stated above, if the new GSDS games don't come with a Pal Park or some sort of system to get Pokémon from the GBA games, like Platinum has the Pal Park, then it'll definitely still be kept in use.

Sweet Jasmine
May 29th, 2009, 04:26 PM
HG/SS will not replace Platinum. It would replace the Old Pokemon Gold and Silver. and it has new features and new sprites of the pokemon.

Kyone
May 29th, 2009, 04:49 PM
Yeah, if HeartGold and SoulSilver had to replace anything, it'll most likely relpace the older versions of itself, like how FRLG got more people playing that over the old Red, Blue, and Yellow. Now, I'm not saying people won't still be playing the old games, but more than likely most people will prefer the remake simply because of new features and the new 3D look to it as well.

*Firestar*
May 29th, 2009, 05:36 PM
I can't see HGSS replacing Plat, because you need Plat to complete the Pokédex. Plus, as said earlier, they are both different games. They will replace themselves.

Abnegation
May 29th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Well seeing as in it's not gonna be as long a wait as say The kanto remakes to D/P

I think that Platinum and HG/SS will come hand in hand There'll be some colaberation maybe.

I think Nintendo will want Platinum to be long living or at least as long as the DS

Kaori
May 29th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Well seeing as in it's not gonna be as long a wait as say The kanto remakes to D/P

I think that Platinum and HG/SS will come hand in hand There'll be some colaberation maybe.

I think Nintendo will want Platinum to be long living or at least as long as the DS


That could be a possibility. We're going to get some more news in June so we'll see how fascinating it will be a bit more.

Platinum of course, will still be needed unless they add all the Sinnoh pokemon into the remake. I highly doubt they will, but we're going to have to see for ourselves.

Sweet Smoochum
May 29th, 2009, 05:53 PM
Yeah, if HeartGold and SoulSilver had to replace anything, it'll most likely replace the older versions of itself, like how FRLG got more people playing that over the old Red, Blue, and Yellow. Now, I'm not saying people won't still be playing the old games, but more than likely most people will prefer the remake simply because of new features and the new 3D look to it as well.

I think you're right about that. Once I heard about Heart Gold and Soul Silver, I stopped playing Silver version. (My best friend and I like FireRed and LeafGreen better than RBY, too.) To be honest, I haven't been playing Platinum as much. I feel like releasing some of my Johto pokes on there, so I have a clean slate for Heart Gold/Soul Silver. Maybe I'll trade them? As much as I love having my Chikorita (coughMeganiumcough) in Platinum, I feel like I can't start off with it in Heart Gold now. Maybe Cyndaquil this time?

I've read that for the Pichu event, you need Platinum for it. You get the Pikachu colored Pichu in Platinum, get it to HG/SS, and it unlocks the Notched ear Pichu.