HeartGold/SoulSilver Speculation [Archive]

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 03:10 AM

http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pics.shtml

Pre release screenshots galore. I noticed something interesting, how Chikorita is following Gold around. Maybe the starter Pokemon will be able to follow the hero around in it's basic stage, or all three of its stages.

Anyone else got any ideas about that?

I do...eh, going to reuse another post. Yay!

It is interesting. The way I see it there are a number of ways the can go with it.

- Every Pokemon can follow you if they lead the party. This would potentially be awesome, but would be a fair bit of work to implement, and may have some problems. Then there's the fact that walking around with legendary Pokemon would be odd as heck (if not amusing), and for Pokemon such as, say, Bellsprout, that are planted in the ground, or various fish Pokemon... yeah, I'm uncertain on this.

- GS starters will follow you in their multiple forms as well, whenever you want/have them in your party. More likely, this, I fell - can't be hard to implement another 6 moving sprites just for this. Even if they become as big as you size-wise. XD

- The only follow you for a short itme - say, until you return the egg Mr Pokemon gives you. This one here is one I like less... it would restrict them to those 1st-evolved forms though on the face of it.
Yet that is not fool-proof- one could always level up their Pokemon enough to evolve it - and then what? Hmm...that also seems iffy.

Could be any of these, but some seem more likely than others to me. We will have to wait and see though (for instance, maybe in later pics we cann see if they are still around? That may merely mean though that possible you could toggle this feature on and off).

Omer.

May 10th, 2009, 03:10 AM

Maybe Red'll be more included in Kanto? And they should also include things like the Sevii Islands and stuffs. There should also be more WiFi capabilities in the new games.

Sublime

May 10th, 2009, 03:11 AM

And as for the PokeSpe references, perhaps instead of just a Red battle, you have the choice of a double battle between Red and Green?

Well the thing about that is, the Red battle is a direct reference to a section of the GSC portion of the manga. Which is why Red has Green's Charizard and Blue's Blastoise. I just want to see other PokeSpe character's make little cameos. Like Yellow and Blue.

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 10th, 2009, 03:12 AM

Gummy

May 10th, 2009, 03:12 AM

I personally think that it is only like that for a limited time. Like i.e Chikorita followed you out the Prof. Lab, and it started following you around. But once you get to the real adventure it'll be in it's ball.

I hope they give us the choice to hide the starter or not. Cyndaquil following his trainer is adorable, but not so much when he's a Typhlosion.

CollinP

May 10th, 2009, 03:14 AM

(wow this thread went up pretty fast)
Lord GaGa- Yes, you are totally right- that or they make a poke-gear just like the poketech- the poketech was a good thing, and so was poke-gear_ maybe they should make it a poketech and call it a poke gear?
Sublime- totaly- kanto was great in the original, but there was not that much to do
Aseril- haha, ya- actually, maybe it would kinda be fun to also have another team from another region there to (TG, TM, or TA)
Lash- ya, i think that might be a possibility- i actually hope it is- more interactivity
(ps, i bet my strongest pokemon in platinum [lvl 100 shiny typhlosion] that this thread will have 4 pages by 4:00 PM tomorrow- who else is in on that?)

Retro Bug

May 10th, 2009, 03:15 AM

I hope they give us the choice to hide the starter or not. Cyndaquil following his trainer is adorable, but not so much when he's a Typhlosion.

Me too, I rather not have a big, fire-beast breathing down my neck while I'm walking. xD

ISa56

May 10th, 2009, 03:22 AM

I believe that there will be something similar to the Sevii Islands (perhaps the Orange Islands?) and Red's Pokemon will go up in level to compete with Pearl's. I'd also really like it if they had a few Platinum references (such as Jasmine talking about going to the lighthouse in Shinnoh) as well as Kanto's main attraction, the Safari Zone, to reopen. I really hated it when they shut it down G/S/C =-[ Another thing that would be interesting if they had the Bug-Catching Contest in Wireless or even Wi-Fi. You could play up against your friends instead of just playing the CPU players.

YellowPen

May 10th, 2009, 03:23 AM

CollinP

May 10th, 2009, 03:31 AM

http://i39.tinypic.com/epkuia.jpg
from what I can see, Pro Elm's office has two levels. Any one else see the stair case on the right side?

I got so much hype for the starter following you. Im guessing it will only be in towns and cities as it might get annoyed having it follow you everywhere
actually that does look right- which already suggests a deeper plot! (wow..... hold on, breaking my own fourth wall- how do i get deeper plot out of stairs? "ooooh! He Climbed The Stairs! He Must Be Worthy Of A Gym Badge! ohhhhhh!!"- i guess that's a stretch, but still.... ehhh..... keep rolling) but ya, i just remembered- what i REALLY WANT TO SEE Is how all the sprites look- i bet they would be amazing!

Omer.

May 10th, 2009, 03:38 AM

xxChazxx

May 10th, 2009, 03:45 AM

I really like the idea that the starter follows you around. It adds more of a bond btween the Pokemon and the trainer, imo. Although, I would like to choose who follows me. Like say the first in the party would follow, as long as they were small to medium in size (Quilava is just so cute).

I also would like to see more manga references. There is just so much potential in the storyline to not include more. For example, the Pokedex holders could team up against team rocket in an epic battle to end them all. Now wouldn't that be something?

If the second playable character becomes your ally (Dawn and Lucas), than I would like to be able to name them. Just for fun if not for manga accuracy.

I disagree with the Poketch replacing the PokeGear. The PokeGear was great and really made the Gold andy Silver experience unique. It really revolutionized the Pokemon gameplay and should be utilized just as it was previously.

I would love to see an electric type catchable before Falkner. He wasn't difficult, it's just that electric types are not too common.

And, just as many of those before this post, I would like to see more activity in Kanto or even some new areas like the Sevii Islands to add some more length in the story for the larger filespace.

Power could go out, so I'll continue at a later date. Until then, OMG YES!!1 I'M SO HAPPY!!!!

Omer.

May 10th, 2009, 03:47 AM

You could, like, see/hear a legendary at the beginning, so you know great things are destined for you. Also, Legendaries should be more inclusive into the storyline, because that was something G/S lacked.

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 03:55 AM

Seeing as the rival is back in again standing in the same position as he was in GSC (yay), I'd like to see more on him (especially given the dialogue from someone in FR/LG about a red-haired kid being Giovanni's son - it is speculated that Silver is that kid). More story and all - he was one of my favourite parts of the game, and made for a more interesting rival than others, like the 3rd gen's May/Brendan.

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 10th, 2009, 04:09 AM

I don't like the idea of Pokemon following you everywhere. It'll be fine at the start, but not for the whole game. Imagine how large the ROM'll be then!

Then again, if everyone loves the PokeGear so much, then the PokeGear's company should be revealed, and they should have their HQ in Goldenrod City.
Really now? You might want to learn about how programming like that would not bloat a ROM. :x

And also, it's generally assumed that Silph Co. manufactures a lot of things around Kanto and Johto.

Twilight Sky

May 10th, 2009, 04:12 AM

PokeMaster1

May 10th, 2009, 04:13 AM

I think you should be able to obtain every Johto Starter throughout the story, like how you obtained the starters in Yellow version.

They should also provide some background story on the Battle Tower, and have like before you beat the E4 it's under construction, but after the E4 it's finished.

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 10th, 2009, 04:27 AM

I think you should be able to obtain every Johto Starter throughout the story, like how you obtained the starters in Yellow version.
With the GTS now, why not just request the starters from there instead? (This depends on whether these games actually gives us ACCESS to the GTS, though.)

PokeMaster1

May 10th, 2009, 04:30 AM

With the GTS now, why not just request the starters from there instead? (This depends on whether these games actually gives us ACCESS to the GTS, though.)
You could be right, and if they are going to put a GTS, it'll most likely be in Goldenrod, the best of the GS cirtes. Also, it's just more of a fun story line to have all starters throughout most of it.

Gusxx1

May 10th, 2009, 04:31 AM

With the GTS now, why not just request the starters from there instead? (This depends on whether these games actually gives us ACCESS to the GTS, though.)

To tell the truth, I'd doubt they would remove a feature like that from any future games but who knows they might. The problem would be where would they put it in the game. It would probably be in the closest biggest city. Being Golden Rod, I Believe? But theres really no place there to put it unless something else is changed. Who knows whats going to happen.

robbingdog

May 10th, 2009, 04:39 AM

- The only follow you for a short time - say, until you return the egg Mr Pokemon gives you.

Am I the only one who sees a potential error in this idea? I'm sure at least the most hardcore would be willing to evolve their starters before this event just by repetitively leveling up off level 2-4 opponents.

Omer.

May 10th, 2009, 04:45 AM

You know what I always wanted in a Pokemon Video Game?

A main character that could actually talk. ):

Call me crazy, but still. As I speculate through each new generation/game that comes out, that never happens. ;__;

So very true. Our main character is so boring, and everyone else does the speaking for him. He/she should speak for himself/herself.

To tell the truth, I'd doubt they would remove a feature like that from any future games but who knows they might. The problem would be where would they put it in the game. It would probably be in the closest biggest city. Being Golden Rod, I Believe? But theres really no place there to put it unless something else is changed. Who knows whats going to happen.
They'll probably have the WiFi Terminal in Goldenrod City, and it would have the same or similar features of Platinum's WiFi Terminal.

Am I the only one who sees a potential error in this idea? I'm sure at least the most hardcore would be willing to evolve their starters before this event just by repetitively leveling up off level 2-4 opponents.

If they do that, evolution will probably be disabled until the event is over.

True Reign

May 10th, 2009, 04:49 AM

Hopefully Red will be more of a challenge this time.

I mean I remember beating all of his Pokemon with ease...

Aliandro Operator

May 10th, 2009, 05:21 AM

Yo, wassap everyone!
I just signed up in here because of Brown. One hell of a game.

Anyway, as for GSDS here is what I have to say:
Starter following you around = Awesome. Even at their final evolutions. I think it would just be great.

PokeGear: I agree. It shouldn't be replaced by the Poke whatever its called. Never liked it one bit.

Kanto: SHOULD.. No.. MUST be included much more into the story line and expanded. And I highly anticipate the "white rock" and what event it might trigger.

Main Character: They should follow in the steps of Pokemon Brown. Just finished the game and I simply love the idea of an interacting player.

GTS: It would probably be in Goldenrod. Since in the English releases of GSC the Mobile Connector thing was excluded (title), the only way to get Celebii was to get a GS Ball and a trigger code for a gameshark. Lets hope there is a universal event for that. The Celebi quest was awesome. Seriously. Everyone out there who haven't caught Celebi in GSC, get it and check out the codes. It seriously is great.

Finally, Red: He was so weak it was pathetic. I could take him down back in the day with almost always a OHKO when my Pokemon were only in their early-mid sixties. Pathetic. Pathetic pathetic pathetic. Again, they should follow in Pokemon Brown's footsteps in regards to what they did with SS Anne. Uber trainers at least at 60. I simply loved it.

Oh, and personally, I hope they don't change the Pokemon sprites TOO much. I know they already have, but I mean't their battle sprites. The ones in GSC simply rocked.

The Operator.

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 10th, 2009, 05:45 AM

Okay, um… white rock? What white rock?

PokemonMichael

May 10th, 2009, 05:47 AM

Okay, um… white rock? What white rock?
What tis guy said. New stones, anyone?

Aliandro Operator

May 10th, 2009, 05:52 AM

Yeah. The one Prof. Oak talks about when going through the quest to get that grass-type hedghog Pokemon. Forgot its name. x.x;

Oak says it has a counter-part in Kanto. There wasn't one in RBY/GSC nor FrLg. So its probably gonna be there in the GSDS Kanto.
Since there is also one in Hoenn in ... What was that city again... Damn I forgot. The one right next to the cave where you fight one of the teams. Yea, Lilycove if I am notm mistaken.

The Operator.

PokemonMichael

May 10th, 2009, 05:58 AM

Answer4s: Shaymin, and Mosdeep. I suppouse, but where would it be?

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 06:00 AM

Yeah, there was a white rock talked about which supposedly is in Kanto. That's something a number of people are interested in whether it shows up and if so where/if it does anything besides, you know, be a rock.Am I the only one who sees a potential error in this idea? I'm sure at least the most hardcore would be willing to evolve their starters before this event just by repetitively leveling up off level 2-4 opponents. I pointed that out in my post, you know. =P
I think you should be able to obtain every Johto Starter throughout the story, like how you obtained the starters in Yellow version.If that was the case, then...either for some reason the rival doesn't get it (and considering he is in I suppose he will get it via stealing, as he did in GSC), or you get them from someone else. Which I find a bit unlikely... besides, Yellow did that as it drew from elements of the anime, to ride its success and all. (Never mind the anime coming from RB games XD). Since then, anime stuff besides from vague references few and far between has stayed well separate from the games.

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 06:04 AM

At least 20 new PokeGear Apps. No, the PokeGear should be replaced with the Poketch, and that Poketch Company should have a Johto HQ in Goldenrod City to pick up the new apps. There should also be more apps than the ones in D/P/Pt.
No no no! Why do people say this! Poketech for Sinnoh. Pokegear for Johto. And the poketech while it has its uses has a crappy screen. And the map isn't as functional as a proper map as where on the pokegear it is. Now if they put many apps into the Pokegear yes. But taking out the pokegear? This is the second thing you said that I think upsetted many people. Also notice how they wouldn't dare go near the water route. They want us to think if kanto is in or not.

Aliandro Operator

May 10th, 2009, 06:05 AM

@PokemonMichael: Yea, that one. Shaymin. But no, its Lilycove. No wait.. Yea your right. Got mixed up there. Long time x.x;
Edit: Yea, its the one right outside the Space Center.

@Bobandbill: Sorry but I didn't get NOTHING of what you just said. Nothing for real, but am just tired. Gonna hit the sack soon. xD!

No no no! Why do people say this! Poketech for Sinnoh. Pokegear for Johto. And the poketech while it has its uses has a crappy screen. And the map isn't as functional as a proper map as where on the pokegear it is. Now if they put many apps into the Pokegear yes. But taking out the pokegear? This is the second thing you said that I think upsetted many people. Also notice how they wouldn't dare go near the water route. They want us to think if kanto is in or not.

Agree!

The Operator.

The CriminaL

May 10th, 2009, 06:19 AM

Like we were able to do in the past, go back to Kanto, also see some Hoenn and Sinnoh pokes there too!

PokemonMichael

May 10th, 2009, 06:22 AM

No no no! Why do people say this! Poketech for Sinnoh. Pokegear for Johto. And the poketech while it has its uses has a crappy screen. And the map isn't as functional as a proper map as where on the pokegear it is. Now if they put many apps into the Pokegear yes. But taking out the pokegear? This is the second thing you said that I think upsetted many people. Also notice how they wouldn't dare go near the water route. They want us to think if kanto is in or not.

Pokegear is awesome. On another forum i frequent, the said the PokeNav was making a comeback. o.o I hope Kanto is. 16 badges is love.

Aliandro Operator

May 10th, 2009, 06:23 AM

Right on, ProtoCross!

But personally, I really dont know. It kinda.. Mixes it up. I mean, Kanto should be Kanto. No outsider Pokes there. Thats what I think. But like, in the Sevii isles, thats a whole different story. I wouldn't say no to that. But the mainland should stay as it is.

@Michael: I think the PokeNav would be an excellent addition but only if, IF, it was a PokeGear add-on. Not its own individual section or item or whatever. Because then, it would be kinda redundant to have TWO All-In-One Poke-Technologies. Dontcha think? o_O;

The Operator.

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 06:25 AM

Yay for neogaf members! I believe him cause he is legit and all.
Here he says how the new feature wasn't the starters and he wasn't expecting it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15786951&postcount=712
Now what is it?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15787262&postcount=730
If what he says is true hell yes. I might even stoop so low that I might beg my parents to let me buy off the internet a game.

Serene Grace

May 10th, 2009, 07:10 AM

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 10th, 2009, 07:10 AM

The story of that white rock's been pretty much elaborated on; it's something to write who you want to say "Thank you" to. That's Platinum stuff. The fact it comes from Kanto might be better touched on by this though, I guess.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if we did see this rock or pieces of it. It'd probably be the way for another way to set to Shaymin.
Whoa! I woke up extra early to read this confirmation. By the way, the starter following you is a great add to the games. I don't like the D/P/P - esque tiles. Would it kill them for some custom ones?
One word: Confirmity.

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 07:11 AM

Whoa! I woke up extra early to read this confirmation. By the way, the starter following you is a great add to the games. I don't like the D/P/P - esque tiles. Would it kill them for some custom ones?
Unbreakable find me one tile in the gameplay footage that even looks like we are in Sinnoh. Except the trees.
http://i41.tinypic.com/xgegwo.jpg

Youji

May 10th, 2009, 07:13 AM

I guess he's pointing to the post box and the houses (which are a bit styled like D/P/P)

But still we cannot say if the style is the same as D/P/P just because we've seen one map xD

Serene Grace

May 10th, 2009, 07:15 AM

Yeah, thats what I meant. The tiles resemble the D/P/P ones. In the image of the gameplay, the house, trees and grass tiles greatly resemble the Sinnoh ones.

Nitrous Oxide

May 10th, 2009, 07:17 AM

Really now? You might want to learn about how programming like that would not bloat a ROM. :x

And also, it's generally assumed that Silph Co. manufactures a lot of things around Kanto and Johto.
It would add 496 more hex values, tell me how that doesn't bloat a ROM? Platinum's ROM was already double the size because they surpassed DP's hex limit by a couple dozen values.

Anyways, the return of Apricorn's would be awesome, and it would add a new plant (stupid berries are the only thing, and they're kind of annoying). I guarantee that these games will be the way Pokemon was supposed to be, and will right everything they screwed up with RSE.

GTS will be in place of the Time Machine, I think. That way you talk to someone in the Pokemon Center like you do for anything else, instead of having just one building to go to.

Serene Grace

May 10th, 2009, 07:20 AM

It would add 496 more hex values, tell me how that doesn't bloat a ROM? Platinum's ROM was already double the size because they surpassed DP's hex limit by a couple dozen values.

Anyways, the return of Apricorn's would be awesome, and it would add a new plant (stupid berries are the only thing, and they're kind of annoying). I guarantee that these games will be the way Pokemon was supposed to be, and will right everything they screwed up with RSE.
Depends how you feel about R/S/E. I personally like the games but I always thought G/S were the more superior.

Apricons are a must. I loved gving the to Kurt so he could make me the cool G/S/C Pokeballs.

Also, guys, Lugia/Ho-oh will specific to each games or both can be caught in each? Since it's a Ds games, I think they will want you to trade Pokemon so the will likely make the legends Game specific.

Also, I would much rather prefer they made a new trade system. Not just slap on the GTS from D/P/P.

Youji

May 10th, 2009, 07:23 AM

Look at the size of Yu-Gi-Oh! ROMs. The latest one has a size of 256MB and Pokémon Platinum uses a 128MB yet. So we can have 2x Platinum in one ROM if we want. So there won't be a problem with HG / SS regarding ROM size^^

Serene Grace

May 10th, 2009, 07:28 AM

I didn't think DS/HG would have a problem with Rom Size. With the new addons, Pokemon seems to be taking up more Rom Size and they still haven't had any problem.

zerwey

May 10th, 2009, 07:40 AM

What I am always awaiting in a new Pokemon game (or a remake): A Psychic type to be added to Psyduck. :/

mastermudkip

May 10th, 2009, 08:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Mm75hxX7Q&eurl=http://forum.animewolken.nl/showthread.php%3Fp%3D1949989&feature=player_embedded

Jαcκςση

May 10th, 2009, 08:23 AM

The Scarecrow Toxin

May 10th, 2009, 08:32 AM

I hope there is going to be a Battle Frontier.
Maybe there will be a sequel-remake of Crystal, which will have one..

Fiery Dash

May 10th, 2009, 08:37 AM

-Pokemon Contest
-Buena's Password
-Updated Pokedex(dropped out native Kanto-Pokemon like Pidgey, Ratata, include some 4th-gen Pokemon that are relevant to 2nd-gen like Mamoswine, Electivire).
-Some Pokemon may change their "nest", like Houndour and Murkrow, which only appears at Kanto at GSC(kinda ironic).
-Day/night different music themes; actually this feature did exist during GSC, the wild Pokemon battle theme is slightly different on day and nite.
-Trainers' Pokemon Party updated.

Inferno1

May 10th, 2009, 08:52 AM

I have not read any posts before this so if this has already been asked sorry lol but do u guys think that we will travel back to Kanto im not sure i hope we do but im not sure

Fiery Dash

May 10th, 2009, 08:59 AM

I have not read any posts before this so if this has already been asked sorry lol but do u guys think that we will travel back to Kanto im not sure i hope we do but im not sure
Currently it is unknown if we could,
many fans speculated(and most likly) that we might could.

Jubilation

May 10th, 2009, 09:19 AM

Inferno, if I understand you correctly, in Gold and Silver there was a train between Goldenrod and Saffron city if I recall

Fiery Dash

May 10th, 2009, 09:43 AM

Inferno, if I understand you correctly, in Gold and Silver there was a train between Goldenrod and Saffron city if I recall
Maybe that train will be for the new Battle Frontier!
Just joking...

Serene Grace

May 10th, 2009, 10:00 AM

Inferno, if I understand you correctly, in Gold and Silver there was a train between Goldenrod and Saffron city if I recall
The train connected Kanto and Johto.

Glaceon_

May 10th, 2009, 10:07 AM

At least 20 new PokeGear Apps. No, the PokeGear should be replaced with the Poketch, and that Poketch Company should have a Johto HQ in Goldenrod City to pick up the new apps. There should also be more apps than the ones in D/P/Pt.

Doing that, you lose the essence that is G/S. The PokeGear is a part of Generation II that you just can't change; just like the PokeNav from Gen III and the Poketch from D/P/Pt.

I do hope that the Vs. Recorder makes the leap to HG/SS; though there may not be a facility to utilise it properly, (though in Crystal, there was a Battle Tower, if I'm not mistaken... maybe it can be utilised there?) it would be something nice to have on hand, for when you battle friends, etc.

Another thing I'm looking forward to is the Bug Catching Contest; it was a unique thing that was never duplicated in any other Pokemon game... oh, and I'm hoping that the Safari Zone doesn't get closed down in the remake, like it was in the Generation II games. I understand that was done because of a glitch, back then... so maybe they'll be kind and let us have it, this time?

That said, I think I'll respond to some of the posts that aren't sure about Kanto being in the game. In general, you break G/S if you don't have Kanto included in the game, because it expands into a kind of sub-story and gives you more to do than the average Pokemon game of present times. The multi-Region travel is one of the primary things that has made me want a G/S Remake for so long, so I really hope they don't scrap Kanto and ruin a large part of this remake for me, at least.

Maybe the Sevii Islands will make a return? Well, the Japanese release is coming out in the Fall, so I guess we've got plenty of time to wonder about it... XD

There is a lot I'm looking forward to from this game, but mostly to get back into using all my Generation II Pokemon again. I've really missed Johto.

PatJamma

May 10th, 2009, 10:12 AM

too bad we are not getting this untill next year =(

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 10th, 2009, 11:14 AM

And according to serebii, this guy predicted the remakes before they were leaked.. so.. this is likely to be true.
And later Serebii disproved that guy, who apparently changed what he wrote on his page since the announcement of this Pokémon Sunday episode.

Kaori

May 10th, 2009, 11:16 AM

I wonder if they will include wifi battles in the game now?

There is a possibility they'll add it to the game now.

Serene Grace

May 10th, 2009, 11:17 AM

It is more than a possiblilty. It's very likely that they should add Wifi system since it is a on the DS.

Andyb4325

May 10th, 2009, 11:44 AM

idk i dont like the idea of the starter following you i didnt like it in yellow it was annoying.

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 11:59 AM

I wanna say something to those of you who are complaining bout map changes. They didn't change em at all it seems. New Bark is still new Bark. Just it has more grass and the routes to each house is more fixed then just big emptiness.

Andyb4325

May 10th, 2009, 12:09 PM

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 12:12 PM

Doing that, you lose the essence that is G/S. The PokeGear is a part of Generation II that you just can't change; just like the PokeNav from Gen III and the Poketch from D/P/Pt.Although for most things I agree with the fact that most would have to be the same to be...well, a remake, such as the who Kanto coming back, and so forth, I think the Pokegear would probably see some changes of some sort in the end. =/ Maybe not in the case of getting apps from Goldenrod and all (heck, that's WAY too much like D/P/Pt -_-), but it probably wll get some additions to it. But it needs the redio.

I do hope that the Vs. Recorder makes the leap to HG/SS; though there may not be a facility to utilise it properly, (though in Crystal, there was a Battle Tower, if I'm not mistaken... maybe it can be utilised there?) it would be something nice to have on hand, for when you battle friends, etc.Depends really if we see this replace the Phone or not, or whether it kinda merges with the phone. (Having every trainer be able to call you? That'd be something, if a bit annoying if they called too often....XD).
Another thing I'm looking forward to is the Bug Catching Contest; it was a unique thing that was never duplicated in any other Pokemon game... oh, and I'm hoping that the Safari Zone doesn't get closed down in the remake, like it was in the Generation II games. I understand that was done because of a glitch, back then... so maybe they'll be kind and let us have it, this time?Hear hear - Bug Catching comp was fun, although I also want the Safari zone to reopen. (And yes - it had been closed partly as it was the source of 'Glitch City' in RBY. They had maps and all for it, but took out the door and/or warp points to it). They'd have to change some minor things though, such as the whole Warden going overseas and never coming back to the Safari Zone, only having made the Bug Catching Competition instead. Maybe it'll be unlockable as a side quest or something?

(Actually, when I first played Silver I thought it was a side-quest that I could do to 'unlock' the Safari Zone, and hence I spent some time in the National Park looking for him after finding a sign there with a message, ending with 'THE WARDEN'. XD)
That said, I think I'll respond to some of the posts that aren't sure about Kanto being in the game. In general, you break G/S if you don't have Kanto included in the game, because it expands into a kind of sub-story and gives you more to do than the average Pokemon game of present times. The multi-Region travel is one of the primary things that has made me want a G/S Remake for so long, so I really hope they don't scrap Kanto and ruin a large part of this remake for me, at least.

Maybe the Sevii Islands will make a return? Well, the Japanese release is coming out in the Fall, so I guess we've got plenty of time to wonder about it... XD

There is a lot I'm looking forward to from this game, but mostly to get back into using all my Generation II Pokemon again. I've really missed Johto.
Somehow I don't get all of these calls to replace Kanto with the Orange Islands - I for one am curious to see Kanto again, 3 years after the events of FR/LG and all. And it was a big part of GSC - well, half of it anyway. But I reckon they will keep it - feeling kinda confident they will.

But... LONG LIVE JOHTO!

i hope when you go back to kanto they dont make it all messed up like in the orginal, with starting in like saffron and you have to find your way threw to the other citys, they should start off in pallet or viridian. One started from Vermillion City. The thing is though, if they don't do it like that, than they'd have to make up another way to do it besides using the ship which you unlock after beating the Elite Four. I kinda liked it though - it let me explore Kanto more or less my own way.

hydrojames

May 10th, 2009, 12:12 PM

i hope when you go back to kanto they dont make it all messed up like in the orginal, with starting in like saffron and you have to find your way threw to the other citys, they should start off in pallet or viridian.

You have a point that was quite annoying that once you got to Kanto you had to start in Saffron. I hope the Battle Tower will be included in HG and SS!

CollinP

May 10th, 2009, 12:17 PM

You know what I always wanted in a Pokemon Video Game?

A main character that could actually talk. ):

Call me crazy, but still. As I speculate through each new generation/game that comes out, that never happens. ;__;
actually, what would be fun is more voice activity- like yes or no, blue, green, red being able to call the pokemons name- that would be pretty fun! i always wanted a talking character, but being able to talk AS the character would be even better!

Cheesymitten

May 10th, 2009, 12:25 PM

Has someone already mentioned this?
In Silver/Gold there was a mystery gift..So will that mean these will have the mystery gift?

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 12:29 PM

i hope when you go back to kanto they dont make it all messed up like in the orginal, with starting in like saffron and you have to find your way threw to the other citys, they should start off in pallet or viridian.
You started off in Vermillion and it was all cause of the port. There is no technical way to actually start in Pallet Town and Nah I don't want to start in Viridian. Blue should always stay the final leader. Anyway I am expect the running shoes to be given after the theft. I mean you go back and forth through all that and then again plus more without running shoes? Tedious! Anyway I wanna post bigger yet burrier pics.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3555/3517808292_21ca3e6101_o.jpg
I love the doors and how they look Like from Japan and all with the slit. I also like that the mailbox falls under the roog and doesn't look like its as tall as the house. Also those are surely vents so I really hop the underground comes along. I wonder whats upstairs...http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3517808168_99f4a3842c_o.jpg
I love the detail for the roofs and all the windmilles. Also Golds sprite is excellent. It seems to me that the maps are the same just they make it look more filled and all with the grass patches around the houses then a desolate garbage dump. I cannot wait to see the likes of cherrygrove violet and goldenrod. As well as Eucrateak the radio tower and of course the lightous. Overall I expect many map additions like the windmills so yeah. Long live speculation until further screens!

CollinP

May 10th, 2009, 12:50 PM

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Edit: what i meant to say was in D/P i think i saw Brendan- That Could Be A Hint That You Can Go To The Third Region In HG, SS

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 01:04 PM

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Edit: what i meant to say was in D/P i think i saw Brendan- That Could Be A Hint That You Can Go To The Third Region In HG, SS
3 regions=overkill. Jeez why do so many people want Hoenn in?!

Tater Tot

May 10th, 2009, 01:16 PM

What good would Hoenn do? It would just be an unnecessary risk to add that would do nothing but make the game longer. It's not needed at all. o_o GS already has the Kanto Gyms to blow through after you've beaten the Elite Four, which is all I believe is needed. Hoenn would just be... no. :x

If the Hoenn region was added, it would be a big turnoff to me. It would make me that much less persuasive to buy it.

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 01:33 PM

Not to mention that suddenly going to add yet another full region into it would be odd for them to do. They already will get even more sales out of the whole 2-regions thing if they choose to keep it (and IMO they should and will), and Hoenn being added would then have a high potential to hinder them if they wished to make a one-region game involving Hoenn down the track some time. It's just something that's unlikely and unfeasible to happen.

But people are going to say all sorts of stuff in the coming weeks and months. Heck, you should have seen stuff that was said in the lead-up to DP all over the place, and after it too. Ah, the madness... I'd suggest getting used to it, and prepared to remind people why some stuff is unlikely to happen a few times, I guess.

Tuskin

May 10th, 2009, 01:33 PM

Well, we can expect more news this week, a Japanese Magazine (CoroCoro?? I think thats it) Is suppose to have an article on it.

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 01:41 PM

Yep, new news, on... the 15th if I remember correctly. Expect maybe some small snipits of news, but nothing major, I'd say - they'd want to space out info they give out as well.

Rekky

May 10th, 2009, 01:44 PM

Yeah, I doubt very much that Hoenn will play a part in the new games. Hopefully they'll stay true to the old games and they'll just include Johto and Kanto. Three regions would be absolute overkill.

CollinP

May 10th, 2009, 01:48 PM

The Red Chain

May 10th, 2009, 01:54 PM

Same same, I would also be turned off by the idea of going to Hoenn.
I think most of us didn't like that region very much to begin with.. other than the Battle Frontier that is.

Having to go through 2 extra regions in HGSS, namely Kanto and Hoenn, would be more like a second job than fun in my opinion.

Cheesymitten

May 10th, 2009, 02:01 PM

I think that it would be more better if it was longer, and then people wouldn't complain that it wasn't long enough :S

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 02:03 PM

Yep, new news, on... the 15th if I remember correctly. Expect maybe some small snipits of news, but nothing major, I'd say - they'd want to space out info they give out as well.
The magazine comes in on the 15th. That surely will not stop scans to be in by tomorrow. And I expect a page or 2 of info. Like the art of the trainers and the first route or something. Maybe a battle screen to see how the interface looks.

The Red Chain

May 10th, 2009, 02:04 PM

I think that it would be more better if it was longer, and then people wouldn't complain that it wasn't long enough :S

It would be nice to have Kanto, but adding Hoenn onto the 'to do list' as well is really pushing people's patience limit.

Meh, everyone has their own opinion.

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 02:14 PM

Does anyone think that both Lugia and Ho-Oh will be available?
I hope so!

Rekky

May 10th, 2009, 02:18 PM

Does anyone think that both Lugia and Ho-Oh will be available?
I hope so!

They were available in the old games, why wouldn't they be available in the remakes?

Cheesymitten

May 10th, 2009, 02:21 PM

Does anyone think that both Lugia and Ho-Oh will be available?
I hope so!
Yeah!
That would be great. As long as you're able to catch both of them in the same game.

The Red Chain

May 10th, 2009, 02:21 PM

I wonder if they will switch them around just like in the old games..
You know, Lugia in Gold, Ho-oh in Silver.

I'm sort of hoping not since I want to get SS, but I prefer Lugia over Ho-oh.

Alexithymia~

May 10th, 2009, 02:23 PM

ClassicRockFan

May 10th, 2009, 02:24 PM

I wonder if the Red Gyarados is gonna be kept, since it apparently made news appearances in Sinnoh.

And if they're gonna put the Odd Egg in the game.

And as a question, how will you get to the Whirl Islands if Whirlpool isn't a HM anymore?

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 02:29 PM

That'd be cool. To have both, I mean.
Would they be in the same place, you think? Or... in different places? Or.. would one be in the tower and the other running? :P
Think of the possibilites :D :D They have a chance to have fun with this game.
Well in Silver the case was a level 45 Lugia in the whirl Island then after getting the Rainbow Wing in Pewter you would go to tin tower and get a level 70 Ho-oh. In gold it was level 45 Ho-oh Tin Tower level 70 Lugia in Whirl Islands. Thats what I love bout the games. They had seperate dungeons then oh gee one place.
@ClassicRockFan:
They will obviously take out both HM of Rock Climb and Defog to put back in Flash and Whirlpool. Sure flash is a TM but you can't hold TMs now can you. :P

Cheesymitten

May 10th, 2009, 02:29 PM

I hope that they keep the red Gyarados, and it's obtainable and you don't have to keep throwing balls and realise that it can't be caught :(

The Red Chain

May 10th, 2009, 02:31 PM

Well in Silver the case was a level 45 Lugia in the whirl Island then after getting the Rainbow Wing in Pewter you would go to tin tower and get a level 70 Ho-oh. In gold it was level 45 Ho-oh Tin Tower level 70 Lugia in Whirl Islands

Oh wow, that's one thing about GS I didn't know.
If only I had known that years ago..

Rekky

May 10th, 2009, 02:34 PM

Actually, now that I think about it, they could implement a double battle with Lugia and Ho-Oh, like they did with Groudon and Kyogre in Emerald. A reason for this could be that double battles weren't possible until the third generation, right?

Then again, that's probably wrong. They'll both probably be in the same place as they were in the old games, and you'll need to get the two wings to reach them.

I wonder if the Red Gyarados is gonna be kept, since it apparently made news appearances in Sinnoh.

And if they're gonna put the Odd Egg in the game.

And as a question, how will you get to the Whirl Islands if Whirlpool isn't a HM anymore?

Yeah, it probably will be, but the story surrounding it might become slightly bigger. You have to remember that D/P/P and G/S/C all took place three years after R/B/Y, so it's possibly that the Red Gyarados migrated from Sinnoh to Johto.

Um, it might be remade into a HM for the game? And if it isn't, there'll definitely be new obstacles you'll have to overcome to reach Lugia.

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 03:02 PM

In previous games, you can't catch the Pokémon in Double Battles, so I don't think that will be the case.

Tater Tot

May 10th, 2009, 03:06 PM

Hopefully there won't be too many changes in GSDS. I would be incredibly happy if there were no Pokemon Contests featured in the game. I've never liked them. :l I've always thought they were boring and stupid, and just... pointless. D:

In my opinion, all I would want to see featured in the game would be the option of getting both Ho-oh and Lugia, and better graphics. I'm not really one for much change. If they have a total blowout, and cause it to feel like a totally different game from GS, I would be angry. What they made in 2000 was a huge hit, and everyone absolutely adored it. Why should they change much? It's just a risk of the fans not appreciating it as much as they did in 2000. If they added a whole load of crap to the the game, it would seem to over the top and the fans wouldn't appreciate it as much. All I'm hoping for is that most of the features in 2000 will stay the same, and that the creators won't go overboard with it.

Cheesymitten

May 10th, 2009, 03:10 PM

Hopefully there won't be too many changes in GSDS. I would be incredibly happy if there were no Pokemon Contests featured in the game. I've never liked them. :l I've always thought they were boring and stupid, and just... pointless. D:

Agreed,
I think there are more girls doing the contests,so maybe they could do another gender thing, girls doing the contests, but would would the guys do?

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 03:11 PM

I'd also hate to see contests. They're so pointless, but I'm sure they'll be back.

CollinP

May 10th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Alexithymia~

May 10th, 2009, 03:16 PM

Agreed,
I think there are more girls doing the contests,so maybe they could do another gender thing, girls doing the contests, but would would the guys do?
Mud wrestling? XD ahaha
I never really liked the contests either.
They just bugged me, and I really sucked at them.

OokamiShipper

May 10th, 2009, 03:17 PM

Wow, HGSS already has it's own place in PC. x3
Well, I hope that we'll be able to go back to Kanto, it'd be cool to see Kanto in the DS. ^^

Agreed,
I think there are more girls doing the contests,so maybe they could do another gender thing, girls doing the contests, but would would the guys do?

I honestly prefer battling than contests, but I know a guy who loves contests, so it's just about opinion.

<<Haruki Adachi>>

May 10th, 2009, 03:19 PM

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 03:22 PM

one thing I am hoping for is a johto->kanto->Sinnoh travel
Since one of the gym leaders in Johto can be found in DPP

no matter where in the party the starter will follow you unless it is in a box(like in yellow)

Including travel to every region would be ridiculous, unnecessary, and space-consuming.

<<Haruki Adachi>>

May 10th, 2009, 03:23 PM

well not full regions
like a snipit of the two

Rekky

May 10th, 2009, 03:26 PM

one thing I am hoping for is a johto->kanto->Sinnoh travel
Since one of the gym leaders in Johto can be found in DPP

no matter where in the party the starter will follow you unless it is in a box(like in yellow)

I think Jasmine was only there to hint that GS remakes could happen; not to tell us that Sinnoh would appear in the GS remakes.

Cheesymitten

May 10th, 2009, 03:26 PM

Including travel to every region would be ridiculous, unnecessary, and space-consuming.
And it'd take even more time to make the game when there's already a good enough game being made in the process :P

Alexithymia~

May 10th, 2009, 04:19 PM

No! Don't make it more time before I can purchase this!
I think people are just gonna have to accept that there probably will never be a game with all regions, and stop making threads about it.

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 04:30 PM

I think people are just gonna have to accept that there probably will never be a game with all regions, and stop making threads about it. Keep hoping then - it's going to continue until the end of time, and you know it! =P

I wonder if those people whose names related to days of the week and who gave you type-boosting items (like Magnet) come back or not. That was a small yet nice feature I liked. Also just how much of the Ruins of Alph stays the same - down to the mysterious noises that played on a channel on the radio when you were there, and the pokedex upgraded section just for them, for instance?

Alexithymia~

May 10th, 2009, 04:51 PM

I wonder if those people whose names related to days of the week and who gave you type-boosting items (like Magnet) come back or not. That was a small yet nice feature I liked.
Agreed.
I liked that too.
It was a nice touch out of many nice touches that made Gold and Silver great games.
I'm hoping they keep some of those.

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 04:56 PM

Keep hoping then - it's going to continue until the end of time, and you know it! =P

I wonder if those people whose names related to days of the week and who gave you type-boosting items (like Magnet) come back or not. That was a small yet nice feature I liked. Also just how much of the Ruins of Alph stays the same - down to the mysterious noises that played on a channel on the radio when you were there, and the pokedex upgraded section just for them, for instance?
Oh the week people! Yeah loved them. And the ruins of alph surely. I want the puzzles on the screen. Anyway those quick to jump original costumes! look closely you blind people! Golds hat is updated. Cannot see? Now its black with a yellow stripe. Same colors. Just different pattern. So I cannot wait to see the clothes. ^_^

BHwolfgang

May 10th, 2009, 05:07 PM

Oh the week people! Yeah loved them.I wonder if there are more people like them in this remake. Yeah, like someone one needs to find to get a King Rock.

And the ruins of alph surely. I want the puzzles on the screen.It'll be fun trying to solve it. I hope they'll make it more challenging.

Anyway those quick to jump original costumes! look closely you blind people! Golds hat is updated. Cannot see? Now its black with a yellow stripe. Same colors. Just different pattern. So I cannot wait to see the clothes. ^_^ Hmm? We all just have to wait and see the official image of the player. One can't get all the details from just one sprite.

Keep hoping then - it's going to continue until the end of time, and you know it! =P Sadly, this is true.

Mitchman

May 10th, 2009, 05:13 PM

I wonder if there are more people like them in this remake. Yeah, like someone one needs to find to get a King Rock.
Nah. the original 7 were great. No need for more of them.

It'll be fun trying to solve it. I hope they'll make it more challenging.
Well because of the bigger screen and more detail they could put in it pehaps a more detail puzzle and more pieces?

Hmm? We all just have to wait and see the official image of the player. One can't get all the details from just one sprite.
Yes true but at least we know his hate is new.

Sadly, this is true.
And sadly this comes with a wave of new users who never research until they are experienced with the net.

Haza

May 10th, 2009, 05:17 PM

The Kimono Girls, I wounder if there will be two added for Leafeon & Glaceon.

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 05:20 PM

There were already people in weird/hidden places half the time to give you the other items - like Kings Rock >>> someone in Slowpoke Well, and IIRC there was a Soft Sand given by people south of Goldenrod by surfing south to a hidden beach.
And sadly this comes with a wave of new users who never research until they are experienced with the net. They'll learn soon enough - remember it happens all the time and everywhere - and that sometimes educating people can be fun. =P

And I'd expect two more Kimono girls, yes.

Other minor stuff - Unowns - will the two new ones since GSC have any importance (! and ?)? Hmm... nothing too special, methinks, although maybe a separate room or something.
I wonder if the ferry that takes you to Kanto and back will return as well, along with the Magnet train. I reckon those will, personally... haircuts, the Miltank Farm... (and the mini-quest there too? Depends if the miltanks like Oran Berries which will probably replace Berries)... the Headbutt trees, RageCandyBars (actually saw minor side use in the Rocket plot and as a barrier - couldn't pass someone who was selling them until you beat Pyrce), the Beserk Gene (that'll possible remain as a hidden item by Mewtwo's cave if it remains closed in the game as it was in GSC)...

I made a large post involve a fair amount of small stuff actually. I remember too much. XD

Wolflare

May 10th, 2009, 05:25 PM

Found something:
In the Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver remakes, Nintendo DS users will receive a lot of new additions, new elements, and of course, a new Pokemon.Source (http://www.softsailor.com/news/2442-pokemon-heart-gold-and-soul-silver-remakes-heading-to-nintendo-ds-this-fall.html)

Just thought it was a bit interesting... Someone could have already posted this... Oh well... =P

BHwolfgang

May 10th, 2009, 05:29 PM

The Kimono Girls, I wounder if there will be two added for Leafeon & Glaceon. I wonder that too. I don't about this. Half of me wants Nintendo to create this remake with only 251, but the other half wants some Pokémons like these two Eeveelutions to appear...

Nah. the original 7 were great. No need for more of them. Meh, I'm content with that if they stick to the original seven.

Well because of the bigger screen and more detail they could put in it pehaps a more detail puzzle and more pieces? It's possible.

Yes true but at least we know his hate is new.Hopefully, we'll learn more about their design.

And sadly this comes with a wave of new users who never research until they are experienced with the net. They'll eventually learn.

Andyb4325

May 10th, 2009, 05:30 PM

i hate that japan get the games first...yes i know they make them but i mean for a remake they could at least release them both at the same time. cause everyone wants them badly and we have to wait longer.

Aliandro Operator

May 10th, 2009, 05:33 PM

Contests? No PLEASE! If they would include em, I hope there is no unlockable in the end such as in RSE in the museum of art. I hated Contests so much that I used an AR just to get through em quick and see my Pokemon in the museum.

If your talking about gender specific in-game side-quests, I think it would be nice, but kinda unfair. After all different people like different things. BUT!!! Perhaps like this: A gender specific side-quest that can be unlocked and completed by the opposite gender via quest of some sort. Whatcha think?

Hoenn? In GSDS? No. Please, just no. I honestly enjoyed Hoenn a lot. I probably put in 250-300 hours there alone! But I can't say am not pissed at Nintendo for not making a Pokemon game with all the regions. Probably not for a handheld console, but for Wii. I would LOVE it if it would be on a handheld, and dont tell me anything about a space issue. They are using flash cards basically. Last I checked, a very long time ago, they got em up to 4 GB. So yea, memory wouldn't be a problem at all.

As for where to start in Kanto, I honestly didn't have any problems with starting in Saffron. Infact, it was kinda nice. It wouldn't be logical to start in Viridian or Pallet. One of the reasons is that guy at the Indigo Platue doesn't move until you beat the Elite Four, but then again, once he does nothing is stopping you. But I never tried it. Pallet just wouldn't be a possible starting point.

As for the white rock, I doubt it would be another Shaymin event. A possible proof would be the one in Hoenn. It didn't really do anything. It was just there for some reason as far as I know. It would be great if it lead to one of the unobtainables in the past like Celebi or Mew. I would personally prefer to get Celebi as there is no other way to get it other than.. Wait, IS there a way to get it?... Hmm.. OH! Yea, the Japanese bonus disk that came with the Japanese Colosium. I think Mew is just a tiny bit overrated. But I must say.. Its on cute Pokemon. x.x;! I named mine in brown Kawaii. <<; >|
And yea, them item people were a wonderful addition. They MUST make a comeo. I DEMAND it! x.x;

Oh, I almost forgot. About the Red Gyarados, my little brother is one presistant guy and he caught one in the first lake in Pearl with a rod I think. But it MUST, it MUST make a comeback in GSDS. Its a vital part of the story. If its not there, then the whole meeting Lance and kicking TR's behind would not be possible.

Edit: New Pokemon? Whatcha think its gonna be?

The Operator.

bobandbill

May 10th, 2009, 05:37 PM

Found something:
Source (http://www.softsailor.com/news/2442-pokemon-heart-gold-and-soul-silver-remakes-heading-to-nintendo-ds-this-fall.html)

Just thought it was a bit interesting... Someone could have already posted this... Oh well... =P

I think I heard about this before. This however I find suspicious. It's a random news articles in an untrustworthy location (in that it's not a major Pokemon site or anything like that), is thrown in just like that with no warning as well... seems iffy, and basically all random info not from official sources should be treated with caution. I wouldn't believe it yet, and it makes WAY more sense for them to hold out on new Pokemon until next gen. And there are other reasons I could go over.

Not impossible, but given the nature of this and all atm I doubt it.
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i hate that japan get the games first...yes i know they make them but i mean for a remake they could at least release them both at the same time. cause everyone wants them badly and we have to wait longer. Not done as first they'd have to translate to english for the US release, and some other stuff as well. Then there's the delay between the US and Australia/New Zealand/Europe/Everywhere else due to other translating, and necessarily changes whcih has something to do with code and regions and stuff like that. If you heard about games being in 'PAL' and 'NTUS' (bah know I got the latter wrong there, am tired), then they change that from one to the other. Necessary and all, and hence why the delays happens.

MatthewSFC

May 10th, 2009, 05:37 PM

I'm sure whatever they do it will be awesome just like the originals.
I'm glad the starter Pokémon will follow you :)
I'd like to see a remake of Pokémon Yellow after this is released.
I'm thinking way ahead of myself lol.

Jαcκςση

May 10th, 2009, 05:50 PM

BHwolfgang

May 10th, 2009, 06:15 PM

There were already people in weird/hidden places half the time to give you the other items - like Kings Rock >>> someone in Slowpoke Well, and IIRC there was a Soft Sand given by people south of Goldenrod by surfing south to a hidden beach. Oh yeah, I forgot about them. >.>

Maybe they are talking about celebi? Considering the U.S. never got it...Don't get your hopes up. Most likely, they would release Celebi in an event of some kind.

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 06:19 PM

I'd like to see affordable, yummy slowpoke tails. :D

Ooka

May 10th, 2009, 06:44 PM

Does anyone think the day care egg with a 50% chance of being shiny will be present in the game? I''m hoping so.

The Confuzzler

May 10th, 2009, 06:50 PM

I'd like to see affordable, yummy slowpoke tails. :D

Agreed. We never did get to see the Slowpoke tails.

And i do think the 50% chance shiny egg will stay.

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 07:31 PM

No, since WiFi came along, GTS will be full of shiny Pokemon because of it.

Tuskin

May 10th, 2009, 07:53 PM

I think by new Pokemon, they mean new Pokemon relating to G/S, so Hoenn and Sinnoh. (hopefully, only trainer Pokemon until you get the National Dex, didn't FR/LG had Hoenn pokemon?)

reiko

May 10th, 2009, 08:37 PM

the first thing i find out after not being on the computer for a couple of days is that the Gold & Silver remakes are real! i knew it was coming...
anyways what ive always been wanting ever since Firered & Leafgreen is introducing the Orange Islands somehow into the game, i mean i know im not the only one who thougt the Orange Islands were badazz!
The Dsi would be perfect for those little 'challenges' they did in the gyms, i can think of so many things they could do

dartdude6

May 10th, 2009, 08:55 PM

I wonder if you can choose with pokemon follows you around from the Pokemon menu. That would be pretty cool to have a Lugia following you around. A few more things to speculate:

Will the TM/HMs be the same as GSC?
Will there be any new areas after Kanto like the Sevii Islands in FR/LG?
Will there be new event areas for event pokemon such as how Deoxys had Birth Island?

Retro Bug

May 10th, 2009, 08:58 PM

I just past that guy that tried to sell me a Slowpoke tail, but I didn't have the money. D:! I wonder what they look like? Can we make them fried? [/grossness]

Oh that well in Azaela Town I wonder how they will touch that up.

Rekky

May 10th, 2009, 09:38 PM

The Kimono Girls, I wounder if there will be two added for Leafeon & Glaceon.

I doubt it. You probably won't unlock the Dex that includes the fourth generation Pokémon until you beat the Elite Four or see all of the Johto Dex Pokémon. Perhaps if you go back to Ecruteak once you've finished that part of the game, there'll be two new Kimono Girls, but it's probable that there won't be.

Gummy

May 10th, 2009, 09:44 PM

Agreed. We never did get to see the Slowpoke tails.

And i do think the 50% chance shiny egg will stay.

I seriously hope that this is removed from the game. GTS being filled with Red Gyarodos is about all I can take.

Nemaru

May 10th, 2009, 09:47 PM

I want to see them add a Post-NationalDex ship that goes to the Orange Islands (Specifically Pinkan Island; how awesome would pink Pokemon be? :D) I can almost bet my right arm that it won't happen, but eh. =/

I wish they would add a new twist to the plot of Lugia and Ho-Oh, something that deals with the war that happened when the Tin Tower was burned.

Gummy

May 10th, 2009, 09:49 PM

I honestly don't think they need to add any new areas to the game like the Sevii Islands for FRLG. They already have all of Kanto for us to explore, along with eight other badges. all they need to do is make the gym leaders and trainers of Kanto harder, and maybe an enhanced E4 like in Platinum.

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 10:01 PM

I'd really like to either see Kanto completely redone in 3D, better battles, etc. Or nothing...

BHwolfgang

May 10th, 2009, 10:15 PM

They already have all of Kanto for us to explore, along with eight other badges. all they need to do is make the gym leaders and trainers of Kanto harder, and maybe an enhanced E4 like in Platinum.I honestly hope that they make everything harder. That means, harder gyms, stronger trainers, beastly Red, etc..

I wish they would add a new twist to the plot of Lugia and Ho-Oh, something that deals with the war that happened when the Tin Tower was burned. This could happen, the change in plot, but I don't see Nintendo going into details of wars. At the entrance of the Tin Tower, there could be a stone engrave with a brief story, but that's all I could really see happening.

Guarde

May 10th, 2009, 10:17 PM

The look to the game is nice and all, but to be honest the look of it gives me too much of a Diamond/Pearl feel to it. Who knows though, maybe it's just me. :/

*~Fireheart~*

May 10th, 2009, 10:37 PM

Is there a link to the video of the person walking around with the Chikorita?

コナンくん

May 10th, 2009, 10:50 PM

Is there a link to the video of the person walking around with the Chikorita?
Yeah here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4rPZe0CHBE

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 10th, 2009, 11:04 PM

To whoever suggested the TMs would change, I highly doubt it. Speaking from history, FireRed/LeafGreen did not retain the original TMs/HMs from Red/Green. Instead, they added Move Tutors.

Expect a lot of move tutors to fill in the missing moves. Don't be surprised if Whirlpool changes into a HM though, since HMs are not able to be traded. And for GameFreak, doing that might be necessary.

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 11:10 PM

I'm sure all the HMs will be replaced with the oldtime ones.

레트로

May 10th, 2009, 11:40 PM

You know what I'd really love?
If they made the G/S phone, compatible with wi-fi.

Then you could register FC's as phone numbers, and text! >.<

BHwolfgang

May 10th, 2009, 11:41 PM

I'm sure all the HMs will be replaced with the oldtime ones. How are you sure?

Expect a lot of move tutors to fill in the missing moves. Don't be surprised if Whirlpool changes into a HM though, since HMs are not able to be traded. And for GameFreak, doing that might be necessary. I could also see Whirlpool becoming an HM because of Whirpool Island.

diando

May 10th, 2009, 11:41 PM

I was hoping for this GS remake. (Even though I have never played GSC) but I think the idea from pokemon yellow to have your Pokemon Follow is genius.

Where the GTS will be?
Can you trade freely with DP and Pt anytime? (Like you had to unlock trading with Kanto to Hoenn to almost the end of the game.)
What time it will be released in North America?

But anyway I really have to start playing GSC before I play this game. LOL.

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 11:42 PM

Because if its a true remake, the same areas will be around, requiring the old HMs.

BHwolfgang

May 10th, 2009, 11:46 PM

Because if its a true remake, the same areas will be around, requiring the old HMs. Well, in your previous post, you said all HM's would replaced with the old ones. Do you really think they won't add stuff where you need to use Rock Climb or Waterfall?

AJ™

May 10th, 2009, 11:51 PM

Wasn't Waterfall around in Gen2?...

Anyways, I didn't mean replace. I meant the Gen2 ones like whirlpool will make a comeback as HMs.

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 11th, 2009, 12:00 AM

Waterfall was in Gold/Silver, definitely. Whirlpool is, at this rate, the only HM move that isn't in the games (but can be added in as a HM move).

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 12:05 AM

Maybe instead of Whirlpool, Dive will become an HM.
It'd make more sense to DIVE to Lugia (creature of the deep), than to cross a whirlpool.

Gummy

May 11th, 2009, 12:09 AM

Maybe instead of Whirlpool, Dive will become an HM.
It'd make more sense to DIVE to Lugia (creature of the deep), than to cross a whirlpool.

Indeed it would, but in my opinion both of those HMs are useless after a certain point. I'd love for both to be TMs that can be bought at the Mart.

BeachBoy

May 11th, 2009, 12:11 AM

I'd rather hope they're TMs with the out-of-battle ability, like Flash, but who knows. If they do make Whirlpool or Dive the HM for Lugia or what have you, I'll gladly use my Mantine. <3

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 12:12 AM

I agree. The fact that you could actually easily get rid of them when you want would be wonderful.

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 11th, 2009, 12:34 AM

Though Kanto and Johto aren't really water-based regions like Hoenn is, I'd sure like to dive underwater again.

Kaori

May 11th, 2009, 12:37 AM

Dive would be wonderful to have again...but what would it be used for in the game?

minchan

May 11th, 2009, 12:59 AM

So these games are confirmed to come out, eh? Finally!!!

Though Kanto and Johto aren't really water-based regions like Hoenn is, I'd sure like to dive underwater again.

Dive is one of my favorite parts of the RSE series. It's so cool to be able to go underwater! It's definitely true that Hoenn has a LOT more water-based locations than Johto and Kanto do...

Dive would be wonderful to have again...but what would it be used for in the game?

I think if anything, to get to the whirl islands... Though now that I think of it, wouldn't you need to re-name them the dive islands? LOL Maybe to get to Cianwood city...

I'd rather hope they're TMs with the out-of-battle ability, like Flash, but who knows. If they do make Whirlpool or Dive the HM for Lugia or what have you, I'll gladly use my Mantine. <3

All I know is that when Victory Road requires flash, it's so annoying to have an HM slave or a Pokemon with flash on your team... TMs are so much easier (provided you have the cash) but that's what the amulet coin is for! I hate the move whirlpool in battle, so I hope they make it a TM or at LEAST do what they did with rock smash (upping the power a bit).

Indeed it would, but in my opinion both of those HMs are useless after a certain point. I'd love for both to be TMs that can be bought at the Mart.

At a regular Pokemart? Or only the Dept. stores? If you're not limited to Goldenrod and Celadon, that would be cool... but it would kinda be odd to see TMs listed on the list of items you can buy along with potions, pokeballs, and full heals. LOL

Kyone

May 11th, 2009, 12:59 AM

Having Dive back would be cool. I had thought they would have added it in DPPt before, but maybe it might be used again HeartGold and SoulSilver instead of Whirlpool. xD

Cham

May 11th, 2009, 01:02 AM

I am really wondering how they are going to incorporate one of my favourite features from G/S, the room decorating. I remember it was only able to be done through the infrared port the Gameboy Colour had. My friend and I would use our two Gameboys and trade with each other to try to get all the decorations, and then switch out versions so we could get 2 pieces each a day. I really hope they keep this feature somehow, maybe making it able to be done with a friend over wifi or wireless. Did anyone else like this feature? I liked being able to decorate my room better than secret base or underground bases really.

Kyone

May 11th, 2009, 01:04 AM

Speaking of bases and all, I wonder if they'll add that into HH and SS, it might be pretty cool. Going underground and digging things up again would be nice to do.

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 01:06 AM

Oh, you mean those little plushies? :D

Retro Bug

May 11th, 2009, 01:12 AM

I wonder if they let your Mom save your money again? That was fun.

BHwolfgang

May 11th, 2009, 01:18 AM

Oh, you mean those little plushies? :D Awww! I miss those! Well, plushies for your room, of course. I hope they bring this back as well, with more options!~

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 01:21 AM

The room better be bigger too.
It shouldn't be a problem with that whole Inside bigger than Outside paradox.

Retro Bug

May 11th, 2009, 01:28 AM

You could only display two Pokédolls, I was mad. I sorta hope they keep that feature, just enchance it. ( As in add different Pokédolls & Posters.)

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 01:32 AM

A maximum is fine, just not until like... 10 XD!

BHwolfgang

May 11th, 2009, 01:58 AM

A maximum is fine, just not until like... 10 XD! I hope the maximum is 10! XD

Calvo819

May 11th, 2009, 02:38 AM

too lazy to search :D

any release date for America yet?

Shirona

May 11th, 2009, 02:38 AM

Screw decorating, what about Mystery Gift itself?

Astinus

May 11th, 2009, 02:47 AM

too lazy to search :D

any release date for America yet?
Projected date would be Spring 2010, is what I heard. Could be, and might be, wrong.

All this talk about the decorating of the rooms reminded me of how I enjoyed that in Silver. I hope that it will make a return and use the Mystery Gift ability to get new items.

Perhaps Diving might become an important move to explore the Whirl Islands better, along with Whirlpool and Waterfall.

Calvo819

May 11th, 2009, 02:54 AM

thats too long to wait :(

if it takes that long to wait, i pray to god it wont be disappointing

Alloute

May 11th, 2009, 03:16 AM

2010, the release of HG/SS in the US...perfect!

I'll import from Japan however, it'll be out there this fall

.Seth

May 11th, 2009, 03:18 AM

I'd like to see Dive, WhirlPool, and Flash all as TMs.
I hope Mom will save up cash again.

I'd also like to see the Whirl Islands have some kind of quest or actual event than just finding Lugia. A whole location (on the World Map too!) just for finding a Legend? A little overdone...

Kanto must come back (I like having 16 badges... ;;)

solovino

May 11th, 2009, 03:38 AM

Mom Bank FTW!!!

Actually, I like the idea of Flash and Dive, and maybe Whirpool, as TMs. It would have to make them accesible either early in-game, or at the Goldenrod store, to prevent "oops I can't get it anymore", in particular for whirpool.

Calvo819

May 11th, 2009, 03:42 AM

Penumbra

May 11th, 2009, 03:45 AM

thats too long to wait :(

if it takes that long to wait, i pray to god it wont be disappointing

Anything that involves Johto already won, son.

I hope Dive and Whirlpool return. They were my favorite moves!
I loved dive music, too. Whirlpool is just cool.. They just need a
power boost. Hey, they took off the good accuracy from Hypnosis
from the transition of Diamond/Pearl to Platiinum, so why not
add some power to whirlpool and Dive to make it a better move?

The moves I hope DON'T return:
- Flash
- Rock Climb (unless boosted accuracy)
- CUT! GRrrRRrrRRRR

Also, the "projected date" isn't set. It might even come out in November or December
if NoA works quick enough... If HG/SS Sell wonderfully in Japan, the internateional release dates should be reflected, as they'll jump at the opportunity to make money.

Hiroshi Sotomura

May 11th, 2009, 04:03 AM

Not really. They already scheduled a date around Autumn, so you're looking at around September, October or November. Typically, a Pokémom game releases in Japan around September.

Also, you're not going to see moves be changed around. Compatibility with Diamond/Pearl is still essential.

FalconJoker

May 11th, 2009, 05:29 AM

The moves I hope DON'T return:
- Flash
- Rock Climb (unless boosted accuracy)
- CUT! GRrrRRrrRRRR

I would definitely have to agree. Flash was always useless, even more so after they changed it from an HM to a TM. Rock climb was always annoying though cut isn't too bad. Rock smash was always an annoying one to me too. Either have rock smash or strength, both just seem redundant.

Be nice if they just went with strength OR rock smash, cut, surf, waterfall and fly. That's all we need.

Lukar

May 11th, 2009, 05:51 AM

with enough luck, theyyll include ALL TAH REGIONS!!!!

if they do, it would be better to have each pokemon stay in its original region, to make things less confusing

(ie, Pidgey only in Kanto, Hoothoot only in Johto, taillow only in Hoenn, etc)

That would take up WAY too much data, for them to include four regions. Plus, if we were wanting to be technical, that'd be six, maybe more (Counting the regions from the Ranger games). Plus, the Sevii Islands...

Yeah, I'm 110% positive that we're only going to be seeing Johto, Kanto, and possibly the Sevii Islands.

Also, is anyone else feeling the same way as me? Now that the remakes have been announced, they don't seem as special anymore. :c

EDIT: Another reason as to why I'm positive that we'll only be seeing those areas is because if they include the other regions, then there won't be much reason for people to buy D/P/P and possible R/S/E remakes in the future, will there?

Poliwagged

May 11th, 2009, 06:57 AM

Anything that involves Johto already won, son.

I hope Dive and Whirlpool return. They were my favorite moves!
I loved dive music, too. Whirlpool is just cool.. They just need a
power boost. Hey, they took off the good accuracy from Hypnosis
from the transition of Diamond/Pearl to Platiinum, so why not
add some power to whirlpool and Dive to make it a better move?

The moves I hope DON'T return:
- Flash
- Rock Climb (unless boosted accuracy)
- CUT! GRrrRRrrRRRR

Also, the "projected date" isn't set. It might even come out in November or December
if NoA works quick enough... If HG/SS Sell wonderfully in Japan, the internateional release dates should be reflected, as they'll jump at the opportunity to make money.

You can't take out Cut, it's like the staple of HMs, and it's a huge thing in Azalea town.
"The farfetch'd that CUTs trees!"

bobandbill

May 11th, 2009, 07:13 AM

with enough luck, theyyll include ALL TAH REGIONS!!!!

if they do, it would be better to have each pokemon stay in its original region, to make things less confusing

(ie, Pidgey only in Kanto, Hoothoot only in Johto, taillow only in Hoenn, etc) I wouldn't go about expecting that luck to come off then - multi-region games are not something that will happen. Normally I'd say why, but there's this post here:
That would take up WAY too much data, for them to include four regions. Plus, if we were wanting to be technical, that'd be six, maybe more (Counting the regions from the Ranger games). Plus, the Sevii Islands...

Yeah, I'm 110% positive that we're only going to be seeing Johto, Kanto, and possibly the Sevii Islands.

Also, is anyone else feeling the same way as me? Now that the remakes have been announced, they don't seem as special anymore. :c

EDIT: Another reason as to why I'm positive that we'll only be seeing those areas is because if they include the other regions, then there won't be much reason for people to buy D/P/P and possible R/S/E remakes in the future, will there?Kinda somes it up. Adding more regions will only net them a few more sales - but this would probably hurt any future games they may want to make right into next gen with Hoenn, remake or not-remake. Even if Nintendo/Game Freak don't beleive they will make an RSE remake or another game with Hoenn, they wouldn't go about doing such a thing.

But I don't feel that the remakes/originals have diminished in 'specialness' for me, personally... I'm pretty much excited, and still value GSC pretty highly. Even if the remake ends up better than it, methinks they'll still be special to me. But that's me. =)

Mukkamoto

May 11th, 2009, 09:01 AM

are there gonna be new sprites?
just wondering.

Tortured_Soul

May 11th, 2009, 11:41 AM

Twilite Darkrai

May 11th, 2009, 11:42 AM

Tortured_Soul

May 11th, 2009, 11:48 AM

To add to my previous post, I think the inclusion of the Orange Islands would be a perfect place to house legends. The Dogs could be split up on seperate Islands for instance.

Mitchman

May 11th, 2009, 11:49 AM

Tortured_Soul

May 11th, 2009, 11:50 AM

I don't see a reason why not. The Sevii Islands weren't in the anime iirc (which is very shoddy, considering I barely watched it...).

Mitchman

May 11th, 2009, 11:59 AM

I don't see a reason why not. The Sevii Islands weren't in the anime iirc (which is very shoddy, considering I barely watched it...).
No they weren't but they were an excellent addition to the games.(yes I went there. come. at. me.) If not the Sevii Island are fine enough and seeing as this is a followup to FR/LG they should be in and changed for the 3 Year gap. And anime=/=games especially when it has to do with something that failed so hard.(yes i hate not only Hoenn as a region but the orange islands. *shot*)

Chaos Feraligatr

May 11th, 2009, 12:05 PM

I just hope the battle tower offers every level from 10-100 like it did in crystal version instead of 50 and 100.

bobandbill

May 11th, 2009, 12:07 PM

Orange Islands only ever appeared in the anime, and were used as a bridge in-between the Kanto and Johto series - they have had nothing to do with the games, and hence are quite unlikely to be in this game, given this is a remake made by Game Freak of GSC (Johto and Kanto alone were in the original GSC), and Game Freak isn't about to go use a bunch of islands created in the anime about 10 years ago just like that. They for instance would be more likely to use Sevii Islands - another set of islands they made themselves. But stuff from the anime has not being involved in the games since Yellow, and that was done to ride the success of the anime back then. Curiously though they hadn't used the Orange Islands though in addition to the few elements that did such as starting with a Pikachu... -_-

Basically, anime =/= games - there are MANY places which have appeared in the anime which have not been in the games, so it's a usual thing to happen. Orange Islands is a large place anime-only due to, as mentioned before, being used as a 'filler' place for the anime to use until Johto happened in the games and the anime could then use that to promote itself, after it had run its course of Kanto. Don't expect the Orange Islands to be in - I'll confidently say that it won't.
To add to my previous post, I think the inclusion of the Orange Islands would be a perfect place to house legends. The Dogs could be split up on seperate Islands for instance. Don't quite follow... that would then involve change the whole business about the Johto beasts being found in the Burnt Tower in Johto and so forth. Why would they suddenly be on the orange Islands instead? That's changing something canonically established in GS AND C, and I doubt they're just about to go and do that. =/

Psyburn

May 11th, 2009, 01:41 PM

Well, I'm wondering if they'll include the Orange Islands. This in itself would be special, they haven't used them in any other game to date, and it was a large part of the story line. More badges to collect and brand new places to explore seems pretty exciting to me.

Ugh...why can't people get it through their heads that the Orange islands were MAJOR FILLER EPISODES!? They WEREN'T MEANT to be from the games in the first place! The cartoon has less influence on the games aside from Yellow and Double Battles. The storyline of the cartoon DOES NOT AFFECT the game's storyline in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM!

Kaori

May 11th, 2009, 01:55 PM

the bitter end.

May 11th, 2009, 02:25 PM

I hope they take out Money for Mom. It was so annoying.

I would like to see better gym leaders. I remember fighting Falkner with his level seven Pidgey v.v

Sweet Smoochum

May 11th, 2009, 02:27 PM

This is my guess...
D/P
Japan: September 28th, 2006
America: April 22nd, 2007

Platinum
Japan: September 13th, 2008
America: March 22nd, 2009

HG/SS
Japan: 20th September, 2009
America: February 21st, 2010

As you can see, the US release date from D/P to Platinum was a month less.
So Maybe HGSS will be released in (America) February.

That would be so awesome as to my birthday is 3 days later. :D (Feb. 24th.)

I'm just happy that Nintendo is actually taking the time to make these games. And with the expectations, be realistic. They're not going to make it have four regions. I'm sorry, but that is way too much. Two is good enough. (That's why there is trading between RSE and FRLG, and migrating in DPP.) Besides, it's like your character got a makeover. You can name every trainer you play as the same name, and it will just be with a different id number.

(I love that clip of New Bark Town. <3 Chikorita is adorable... I wish I could play that game already, but I'll (try to) wait...patiently...)

bobandbill

May 11th, 2009, 02:33 PM

I hope they take out Money for Mom. It was so annoying. On the flip side, I hope they keep it in. But going by memory, I believe you didn't have to give her any money - she asked if you wanted to send her money or not, and I believe you could toggle that feature off. Possibly this would be the case again, if it returns.

I wonder if we'll ever see the protagonist's dad? Most Pokemon game protagonists seem to be missing one...

Mitchman

May 11th, 2009, 02:39 PM

bobandbill

May 11th, 2009, 02:49 PM

I loved the money for mom feature and the useless items she bought. They were of minimal use and the price wasn't too steep so yeah. For this day and age though imagine having saved up like 999,999Pokedollars and having 999,999Pokedollars. The villa would be so easy to complete. XD
yeah - another feature I liked. Including the fact that she bought stuff that you could use to decorate your room with. (Giant Snorlax/Lapras doll FTW). I wonder if that feature stays in? Would be grand - but I don't mind the room going so much if it was in favour for a secret base or something like that. =D

And...I actually recall maxing out my money both ways. 2 Pokedollars short of being a multi-millionaire in Johto/Kanto. XD

Mitchman

May 11th, 2009, 02:50 PM

yeah - another feature I liked. Including the fact that she bought stuff that you could use to decorate your room with. (Giant Snorlax/Lapras doll FTW). I wonder if that feature stays in? Would be grand - but I don't mind the room going so much if it was in favour for a secret base or something like that. =D

And...I actually recall maxing out my money both ways. 2 Pokedollars short of being a multi-millionaire in Johto/Kanto. XD
Oh yeah I loved that. I was all what to buy what to buy...and I actually remember me going hey I wonder were mister slowpoke tail guy went. I finally have 2 million Pokedollars!

Wattage

May 11th, 2009, 02:54 PM

The thing I most want to see return is different pokemon sprites for the separate versions (I.E Heart gold has one selction and Soul Silver has another selection) as after finding out about these new remakes I went onto my Pokemon Silver (after not playing it for years) and remembered that Gold's Poke sprites were different to Silver's e.g Gold's Ratatta was in an attacking postion whilst Silver's seemed more relaxed being stood on it's hind legs, this is what I want to see returned as when I first had Silver and my mate had gold it was cool comparing pokedex's and the pics there in.

thelaytonmobile

May 11th, 2009, 03:00 PM

I don't think that any needed moves (ie whirlpool) could be tms as this could lead to the player getting trapped. I mean, what would happen if a player replaced Dive whilst underwater?! (Flash is different, it doesn't impede your progress, just makes it near impossible).
Another thing to do with TMs/HMs is rock smash. In the originals it was just a TM, with like, one use in the entire games. Seeing as FR/LG included it as an HM, I reckon it will be upgraded to HM and more puzzles will involve it. Which is a shame, as it's a terrible move.

Psyburn

May 11th, 2009, 03:21 PM

I hope they take out Money for Mom. It was so annoying.

Are you kidding? Now that you lose money for losing fights, she has a purpose. Plus she's the only mother that actually HELPS you outside of your house.

I would like to see better gym leaders. I remember fighting Falkner with his level seven Pidgey v.v

That was lol worthy back then.

⋚Raika⋚

May 11th, 2009, 03:23 PM

Psyburn

May 11th, 2009, 03:26 PM

I think most of the features introduced in Gen3 is stupid, but its still here and I doubt they'd change it now. Plus removing natures would prolly encourage more EV/IV BS.

⋚Raika⋚

May 11th, 2009, 03:29 PM

I think most of the features introduced in Gen3 is stupid, but its still here and I doubt they'd change it now. Plus removing natures would prolly encourage more EV/IV BS.
Umm, I was talking about whether Nintendo should remove EVs and IVs, not remove Natures. Natures would make things much easier, since certain natures boost certain stats.

Psyburn

May 11th, 2009, 03:30 PM

EV/IV has been here since 1st gen I think. I doubt they would...not for a remake at least.

Kyone

May 11th, 2009, 04:37 PM

I highly doubt they would remove EV/IV...By the way, EVs/IVs were not part of RBY, sorry. I believe it started in 2nd Generation games, meaning they would most likely keep it in the remake regardless of whether it was made in the older versions or not.

Forci Stikane

May 11th, 2009, 05:06 PM

Umm, I didn't bother reading the WHOLE thread, but do any of you think that Nintendo should remove the EV and IV stuff? I mean it's giving most people headaches battling the right pokemon for certain EVs, so why bother when we have Natures? :o Excuse me if you think this post is dumb. :\

I apologize, but to put it bluntly, there is a greater chance of Nintendo removing Wi-Fi access from these games than there is the removal of Effort and Individual Values. Even putting aside the obvious compatibility issues that there would be with the entirety of the 3rd and 4th Generations, EV training is too popular among competitive battlers for Nintendo or Gamefreak to remove it and risk alienating a fair amount of their customers. It is not going to happen, especially not in remakes that are not even a new Generation.

Besides, these were still part of the original Gold and Silver, so there is no chance that Nintendo/Gamefreak is going to remove a feature from the remakes when it was introduced in the originals.

Mitchman

May 11th, 2009, 05:49 PM

Forci Stikane

May 11th, 2009, 06:06 PM

I noticed something interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasakani_no_magatama
I love little things like this. What? Oh yeah uh Lugia kinda looks like that thing. And since the game is SOULSilver it kinda makes sense. Too bad the west never gets this kinda thing.

It would only be natural to see influences of Japanese culture in games that are first created in Japan, between Sprout Tower, the Legendary Beasts themselves, and whatever else I am not remembering right now. However... Sorry, but I am really not seeing the connection in appearance here. It might be similar to one of Lugia's classic sprites, but that would only be because of that specific pose.

Tuskin

May 11th, 2009, 07:56 PM

I think these will come out in November for Japan, since its been 10 years since they first came out there, November 21, 1999.
Interesting fact, Australia got G/S before North America and Europe.

(I was reading Wikipedia)

bamak93

May 11th, 2009, 08:01 PM

I'd like for Game Freak to fix up their story boo boo.

Silly Oak, there IS no white rock in Kanto. >:/

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 08:03 PM

I apologize, but to put it bluntly, there is a greater chance of Nintendo removing Wi-Fi access from these games than there is the removal of Effort and Individual Values. Even putting aside the obvious compatibility issues that there would be with the entirety of the 3rd and 4th Generations, EV training is too popular among competitive battlers for Nintendo or Gamefreak to remove it and risk alienating a fair amount of their customers. It is not going to happen, especially not in remakes that are not even a new Generation.

Besides, these were still part of the original Gold and Silver, so there is no chance that Nintendo/Gamefreak is going to remove a feature from the remakes when it was introduced in the originals.

That pretty much sums it up.
Most official tournament players use EV/IV training/breeding too.

Mitchman

May 11th, 2009, 08:04 PM

I'd like for Game Freak to fix up their story boo boo.

Silly Oak, there IS no white rock in Kanto. >:/
Silly fool thats why the remakes will have this said white rock. Thats actually a given since 2007.

bamak93

May 11th, 2009, 08:07 PM

Silly fool thats why the remakes will have this said white rock. Thats actually a given since 2007.

You never know.

Wonder what it'll do?

_Prince_

May 11th, 2009, 08:31 PM

You never know.

Wonder what it'll do?

My guess is another forme? =P I dunno tbh....it'd sweet though :]

bamak93

May 11th, 2009, 08:34 PM

My guess is another forme? =P I dunno tbh....it'd sweet though :]

I smell a Johto Shaymin. or some other event.

Skyeye Blaze

May 11th, 2009, 08:46 PM

What will happen to the starter when it evolves? I mean, will the evolved form follow you around? Becuase in yellow, I dont think that the pikachu that followed you around ever evolved.

Mitchman

May 11th, 2009, 08:49 PM

What will happen to the starter when it evolves? I mean, will the evolved form follow you around? Becuase in yellow, I dont think that the pikachu that followed you around ever evolved.
Nope it did not. And I doubt the starter will have evolution restrictions. Honestly I do not mind if I have a Typhlosion or a Meganium running behind me .It shows how far you progressed and that your journey is also an experience watching your Pokemon grow along with you. I did not mention Feraligatr cause I doubt it would look coo with the running shoes running. Typhlosion though will look awesome as well as Meganium.

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 08:52 PM

I don't want to see another forme of Shaymin at all.
I'm sick of that stupid little hedgehog.

Gummy

May 11th, 2009, 09:01 PM

Formes are quite annoying in my opinion, since the good ones take away the chance of you holding an item while still being transformed. I honestly hope there are no new formes in this game.

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 09:02 PM

Unless it's a strange and unusual Neutral-Stat Deoxys.
That'd be nice. :D

Retro Bug

May 11th, 2009, 09:09 PM

I hope they don't make another forme. Personally, I didn't see the point of making formes for the other three. Awh Shaymin is cutee. (:

Aliandro Operator

May 11th, 2009, 09:17 PM

In Yellow, you could evolve your Pickachu by trading it and using a Thunder Stone. But when traded back, it won't follow you anymore. I hope the same doesn't happen in GSDS. It WOULD be nice and just as Todokori stated, it would reflect the journey itself. I hope they still follow you around the whole game even after evoloving. If not.. Thats one less PokeSlot for me. I'd trade a Cyndaquil or something and raise that one and keep the original just there following me around. Kinda idiotic but I like the idea of the starter following me round.

Question, ormes are quite annoying in my opinion, since the good ones take away the chance of you holding an item while still being transformed. I honestly hope there are no new formes in this game. ???
I dont have Platnium so I don't know whatcha talkin bout.

The Operator.

Jαcκςση

May 11th, 2009, 11:02 PM

I just realized something. What about the guy in vermillion with the machop who is building something? Maybe that will finally be built in this game? Battle Tower/GTS anyone?

Astinus

May 11th, 2009, 11:09 PM

In Platinum, there's a way to change the form of Shaymin (from Land Form to Sky Form) and Rotom's form. It's better explained here (http://www.serebii.net/platinum/forms.shtml).

I still doubt that the starter will follow you throughout the entire game. Pikachu's tiny, a one-foot critter. Also, Yellow was based on the anime. The final stage of evolution for the Johto starters are big (Feraligatr is six feet huge, which is around two feet taller than the player, if one rounds.), and not all trainers have their starter follow them. So I still stand by what I've been saying for the past few days: the starter follows you up to the Mr. Pokemon/first rival battle event because it isn't technically the player's yet.

I mean it's giving most people headaches battling the right pokemon for certain EVs, so why bother when we have Natures?
Unfortunately, EVs/IVs aren't going away. You can just not use them for your Pokemon (but have fun in competitive battles) and let those that like EVs/IVs use them. And as others have said, they've been in the games for years.

Twilite Darkrai

May 11th, 2009, 11:09 PM

I just realized something. What about the guy in viridian with the machop who is building something? Maybe that will finally be built in this game? Battle Tower/GTS anyone?
Actually it is Vermillion...
Also yeah, it could be a BT or GTS, we don't know yet... xD

Mitchman

May 11th, 2009, 11:14 PM

I still doubt that the starter will follow you throughout the entire game. Pikachu's tiny, a one-foot critter. Also, Yellow was based on the anime. The final stage of evolution for the Johto starters are big (Feraligatr is six feet huge, which is around two feet taller than the player, if one rounds.), and not all trainers have their starter follow them. So I still stand by what I've been saying for the past few days: the starter follows you up to the Mr. Pokemon/first rival battle event because it isn't technically the player's yet.
Feraligatr is the only one i have trouble picturing. Otherwise I can see the other 2 running behind you with the running shoes.

Andyb4325

May 11th, 2009, 11:38 PM

idk i dont like the starter behind you it annoyed me in yellow

AJ™

May 11th, 2009, 11:41 PM

I don't understand why it's so annoying. Does anyone care to elaborate?

Ooka

May 11th, 2009, 11:45 PM

Because some people don't like to have another sprite traveling behind them. That's reason enough for me to understand why people wouldn't like that feature in the game. :/

Jαcκςση

May 11th, 2009, 11:51 PM

Actually it is Vermillion...
Also yeah, it could be a BT or GTS, we don't know yet... xD

Oh yar. My bad. Edited it.

BurstX

May 11th, 2009, 11:51 PM

honestly id love a feature to have a pokemon follow you, but it would get annoying after a while. i can see like the ability to let them out of the ball and put them back. either that or make certain areas like the amity square.

also what about the skateboard
One of the many additions promised, notably, was a skateboard that could be used in addition to the Bicycle of the previous games and would allow users to travel to "unusual places".
it was gonna be in gold and silver but didnt get the cut. honestly i think it would be cool. any thoughts

Mika555

May 12th, 2009, 12:28 AM

I do not mind the idea of the Pokemon following the player. I would just have to make due with it if it is a game feature.

Now someone mention earlier about the slient protagonist. Well the truth is that Pokemon are not the only games that has silent protagonist. Almost all of the RPGs published by Nintendo have silent protagonist like the playable characters in the Pokemon games.

I the Johto Starters new art look splendid. I am look foward to see what the artwork and clothing of the characters look like. I hope we get to see it this month or next month. I also want to see the new stock art of other Johto Pokemon as well who has yet to be updated.

AJ™

May 12th, 2009, 12:33 AM

I'm glad the protagonist is silent. Knowing Nintendo, they'd make him say cheesy, unfunny lines.

BugDystopia

May 12th, 2009, 12:35 AM

From the video i have a few theories on what is in the games
Looks like there is a new wind element, possibly having something to do with Ho-oh and/or Lugia.
I see the starter follows Gold around like in Yellow, possibly for the whole game (drawing this comparison from Amity Square in platinum).
There are also outdoor stairs and a brown bulge on the professor's lab, which could be a new game feature such as an observatory for whatever (purely hypothetical).
Lastly, as a simple plus, the shadows look larger and more defined, i mean there are shadows on the wind direction indicators and there were no (extending) shadows coming from the windmills in D/P/Pt.
I suppose that bases on the video that is all the information that i could extract. Sorry

Things i want to see? well it would be nice to have a story surronding the birds similar to how in r/s/d/p has a critical point here it is necessary to fight the legendary.
i want to see how they are bringing berries to this land, and i dont want to see that berry powder crap again like in fr/lg.

AJ™

May 12th, 2009, 12:42 AM

I think the wind is only because Newbark is "the windy town".
I hope to see weather features elsewhere, and not just in the first town, LIKE PLATINUM FAILED AT.

Heart's Soul

May 12th, 2009, 12:51 AM

AJ™

May 12th, 2009, 01:07 AM

Well, it won't get a skateboard, butthis is what I found.

A rooster for wind moving around
A second floor
Better shadows
Much better graphics
Following Starter
More defined areas

That rounds it to be a 256MB game!

How could you possibly get any sort of accurate calculations on game size by looking at a 15 second preview of an incomplete game. :P

Chérii

May 12th, 2009, 01:09 AM

I'd like more different kinds of places to visit. I don't really know how to specify. For example, the snowy areas were really cool in DPPt, so I'd want to see more of that. Also, the original cities and towns revamped, with new places / features, etc.

Basically I want cool features.

AJ™

May 12th, 2009, 01:10 AM

^/agreed.

I really don't want to see a complete remake. I would love to see weather in every town. A new extra place besides Kanto, and whatever they can come up with.

Heart's Soul

May 12th, 2009, 01:13 AM

How could you possibly get any sort of accurate calculations on game size by looking at a 15 second preview of an incomplete game. :P

After watching a video of a game, I was quickly able to see the little things in every map and give an estimated size. I was close, though. The person cut it down severely, but I was still close. He never got rid of the mp3 though, so I won.

Plus, Platinum is 128MB and it doesn't have much of this. This should be 256MB as it has less free space.

Ooka

May 12th, 2009, 01:42 AM

I'm hoping they do something with the orange islands in the game. I know they were part of the anime, but it's not as if they are completely in the dark about how popular they were (And I'm sure they've heard of Pokemon Naranja, or at least some of their researchers have).

Forci Stikane

May 12th, 2009, 01:53 AM

I sincerely doubt that the Orange Islands will be added into these remakes, especially when there is already a local game-canon series of islands that can be used just as easily. Regardless of how popular the Orange Islands might have been, these games are already fanservice in and of themselves, so the fans are going to be pleased one way or another.

Ooka

May 12th, 2009, 01:55 AM

I suppose you're right, but you can't blame a Pokemon fan for hoping right? xD

Starmario

May 12th, 2009, 01:56 AM

I'd actually like to see a DS version of White City from Stadium 2 somewhere in there, personally, with some minigames and the cups and whatnot. May not be as much as Stadium 2 had, but I think it would be cool. Besides that, the only other thing I'd like to see is better(Read: Higher)levels in certain areas, but not like in Fire Red/Leaf Green where you couldn't have the old levels again if you should want them.

Forci Stikane

May 12th, 2009, 02:09 AM

I suppose you're right, but you can't blame a Pokemon fan for hoping right? xD

True, as I certainly have hopes of my own for this game.

I'd actually like to see a DS version of White City from Stadium 2 somewhere in there, personally, with some minigames and the cups and whatnot. May not be as much as Stadium 2 had, but I think it would be cool.

That actually reminds me of something else: now that these remakes have been announced, I would like to see Nintendo re-release Pokemon Stadium 2 on the Virtual Console, with connectivity to HeartGold and SoulSilver similar to that of the original games as well as a filter to block out compatibility problems with the two recent Generations. They will at least need to update My Pokemon Ranch at some point in time.

...My Pokemon Ranch could even be the distribution method for the Celebi event.

Ooka

May 12th, 2009, 02:11 AM

I'd expect that to happen more if they would have made Stadium again for GC, although I suppose they didn't have all the resources then that they do now, so you never know.

jmadude

May 12th, 2009, 02:42 AM

I don't want to sound like a buzzkill but the game is months away we can't call ideas good or stupid, we won't know what's going on until it comes out. I can't wait for the game to come out but I think it's to early to post dozens of threads.

Volkner's Apprentice

May 12th, 2009, 03:55 AM

In Platinum, there's a way to change the form of Shaymin (from Land Form to Sky Form) and Rotom's form. It's better explained here (http://www.serebii.net/platinum/forms.shtml).

I still doubt that the starter will follow you throughout the entire game. Pikachu's tiny, a one-foot critter. Also, Yellow was based on the anime. The final stage of evolution for the Johto starters are big (Feraligatr is six feet huge, which is around two feet taller than the player, if one rounds.), and not all trainers have their starter follow them. So I still stand by what I've been saying for the past few days: the starter follows you up to the Mr. Pokemon/first rival battle event because it isn't technically the player's yet.

Unfortunately, EVs/IVs aren't going away. You can just not use them for your Pokemon (but have fun in competitive battles) and let those that like EVs/IVs use them. And as others have said, they've been in the games for years.

Who the heck said EVs should go away? XD

I agree completely with Astinus; I think the starter only follows you for a short time (or maybe, we even get a feature to turn it on and off.)

But as adorable as 'Dile would be following me, Gatr can stay in his Pokéball. O_o