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WiCkEdISH
May 16th, 2009, 05:03 PM
I wont lie but I use to own every Pokemon game inside a 4 GB A Data Turbo MicroSDHC.
I currently do still have it and a CycloDS Evolution.

But now I went back to search for all the Pokemon games and yes I have bought every single one.

I think its horrible people downloading ROMs and such because Nintendo and other companies are losing money. And Honestly I think Nintendo shouldn't even release any new Pokemon games because people will simply download it.

And Yes I know I use to do this and had almost all the best games but its true Nintendo is now trying to block flash cards like CycloDS, R4DS, Acekard, and so many others.

I havent touched my CycloDS Evoultion in 2 years!

I suggest everyone just to buy the new Pokemon games and every other Pokemon they have emulated/downloaded.

: (

destinedjagold
May 16th, 2009, 05:53 PM
This doesn't belong in the Emulation section...
I also don't know where this thread belongs so I'm moving this to PKMN General Section...

Rubber Ducky
May 16th, 2009, 06:08 PM
I do have all the games that I've downloaded, but they're all Gen I and II, and the batteries died.

ShinjisLover
May 16th, 2009, 06:26 PM
I always just buy the games.

Cham
May 16th, 2009, 07:33 PM
I have all the games I have bought, but I play them on R4 just because the save and load times are so much faster, and I can use Pokesav when needed.

BHwolfgang
May 16th, 2009, 09:28 PM
I was never a fan of downloading video games. I just buy them.

Ninja Caterpie
May 16th, 2009, 09:41 PM
You try buying a game when your dad believes Pokemon is retarded and for little kids - and you don't have any money of your own.

KostK2Boss
May 17th, 2009, 12:53 AM
I think its horrible people downloading ROMs and such because Nintendo and other companies are losing money. And Honestly I think Nintendo shouldn't even release any new Pokemon games because people will simply download it.

R/B/Y, G/S/C, R/S/E and FR/LG (sorry for too much briefnotes) were all best-sellers of their time. I've never heard of anyone having a rom of these games, without having bought them first. The only exception is having missed a title and it's no longer on sale.
And then, Emerald came out and everyone thought it would be a cool R/S semi-remake. But then, NINTENDO created a psychic dna pokemon with tentacles, instead of hands and the ability to change into 3 awesome forms. The bad news, this pokemon was not in the game! (brilliant, isn't it? a game with an event that is not in the game. it's like a jar with a "chocolate cookies" label on, which turns out to have plain cookies)
The result: Emerald is - up to now - the least-selling pokemon game. And although D/P/PT were successful in Japan and the US, they had the most minimal interest globally.
Don't worry, though. NINTENDO will never become poor!:D

I Laugh at your Misfortune!
May 17th, 2009, 05:09 AM
I have to agree with Ninja Caterpie on this one.

Plus, I don't, tbh, see it as a huge issue unless you're loading them onto cartridges and selling them off. :\

rocketman77
May 17th, 2009, 05:37 AM
You try buying a game when your dad believes Pokemon is retarded and for little kids - and you don't have any money of your own.
Yeah this is why I have to use roms, I would really like to play Pearl/Diamond but I would have to buy a DS too. About $160 that I don't have.

ckret2
May 17th, 2009, 01:14 PM
Considering how much money Pokémon is STILL making, I don't think piracy is a problem for them. :P They're losing a little bit of money when they have so much money that it doesn't actually make any difference to them. It's like the difference between having a million dollars and having a million dollars and twenty-two cents.

Personally, the only ROMs I've downloaded are either ones I already have, or ones that my brother has and would be willing to lend. In other words, ROMs that my family has already paid money to obtain. My only exception to this was Mystery Dungeon Red, which is why I deleted it. :P

I think most fans of something--whether it's a video game, a band, a movie, or whatever--will find ways to support what they love, even if they originally pirated the thing they like so much. People who pirate CDs of bands they love might go back later and buy t-shirts of the band, or tickets to their concerts. People who pirate movies they like will get the DVD with special features later, or watch the sequel three times when it's in theaters. People who pirate video games will track down the games later and obtain them legally, like you did. Some people are just lousy creeps who get the stuff for free and never pay back, but I think the majority of piraters will also try to do something to support the thing they love, even though that support may not include renouncing their lives of online crime.

Ninja Caterpie
May 18th, 2009, 01:11 AM
I just thought to add something else.

Imagine you had 2 million copies of a recipe for cookies and you wanted to sell them for $25 each. You sell them, but some people copy your recipe and distribute this recipe for free around. You still gain the $50 million from selling them, but other people gain them as well, but you don't actually lose.

♣Gawain♣
May 18th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Well, downloading games is the cheapest way to play. It's also for those who can't afford to but the games.

Cyndahog
May 18th, 2009, 02:12 AM
Yeah, the only pokemon games I play on the PC are hacks. I don't get the same feel playing Silver, or even Platinum that I'd get on the DS/GBA.

Nintendo will do anything to bring in more cash for themselves. :P

Ashmi
May 18th, 2009, 02:15 AM
Yeah.. I always buy the pokemon games. But emulators are nice, in a way, so (as others have said) if people can't afford them, they can still enjoy the games and share in the experience.

DarthWaffles
May 18th, 2009, 02:51 AM
I usually buy the games, but for the more recent DS version, I found myself using an R4 to play them.

Fox♠
May 18th, 2009, 02:56 AM
I wont lie but I use to own every Pokemon game inside a 4 GB A Data Turbo MicroSDHC.
I currently do still have it and a CycloDS Evolution.

But now I went back to search for all the Pokemon games and yes I have bought every single one.

I think its horrible people downloading ROMs and such because Nintendo and other companies are losing money. And Honestly I think Nintendo shouldn't even release any new Pokemon games because people will simply download it.

And Yes I know I use to do this and had almost all the best games but its true Nintendo is now trying to block flash cards like CycloDS, R4DS, Acekard, and so many others.

I havent touched my CycloDS Evoultion in 2 years!

I suggest everyone just to buy the new Pokemon games and every other Pokemon they have emulated/downloaded.

: (

If Nintendo are happy to release what is fundamentaly the same game over and over again then I don't see an issue with people downloading them, after all it barely effects Nintendo's huge wallet anyway.

Second Coming of Jebus
May 18th, 2009, 03:04 AM
I always just buy the games.


This. I don't feel right playing ROMS for some reason, it doesn't seem as fun to me for some reason.

Rubber Ducky
May 18th, 2009, 08:26 AM
Don't worry, though. NINTENDO will never become poor!:D

I agree with this. Nintendo, and even just the Pokemon branch, make plenty of money.

jmadude
May 18th, 2009, 02:18 PM
I don't like downloading pokemon games because, after a lot of hard work to get high leveled pokemon you can't send them to a real pokemon game.

Nnoitra Jiruga
May 18th, 2009, 04:29 PM
I used to want a CycloDS...
Well, c'mon, it's NINTENDO. They're like...stinkin' rich ._.

Dratii
May 19th, 2009, 01:29 AM
I do download some roms, but, I wouldn't even buy them anyway so I don't see how it would affect anything.

Cherrim
May 19th, 2009, 05:16 AM
:( The only Pokemon game I've played on a ROM is Ranger 2. I'm not too proud of it but I wouldn't have bought or played the game otherwise. Maybe if I find it cheap I'll buy it one day to ease the guilt a little though, haha.
I just thought to add something else.

Imagine you had 2 million copies of a recipe for cookies and you wanted to sell them for $25 each. You sell them, but some people copy your recipe and distribute this recipe for free around. You still gain the $50 million from selling them, but other people gain them as well, but you don't actually lose.
...that makes no sense. Of course they're losing. The people who download only download because the option is there. Even if you don't have much money, if you couldn't download the games and wanted to play them, you'd save up to get them or just deal with it. If you download it, you aren't gonna want to buy a legit copy since you can't easily transfer your .sav over to it so why bother? It might not be much if only one person does it but when you multiply it by thousands upon thousands, it adds up.

Also, just fyi to everyone, it's still illegal to download the ROMs even if you own the game.

Psyburn
May 19th, 2009, 07:50 AM
Nintendo losing money?

That'll be the day.

Electricz
May 19th, 2009, 07:53 AM
i only download them cuz i dont want my friends to know i still play pokemon also my mum and dad are broke they dont get much money and they got to use all there money on bills and food

Gimmy
May 19th, 2009, 09:02 AM
I don't get the same feeling from playing games on my computer than I do on my good old Ds/GBA/GBC. I downloaded Pokemon Gold once but I can't play it because its not the same for some reason. XD

KostK2Boss
May 19th, 2009, 12:08 PM
I just thought to add something else.

Imagine you had 2 million copies of a recipe for cookies and you wanted to sell them for $25 each. You sell them, but some people copy your recipe and distribute this recipe for free around. You still gain the $50 million from selling them, but other people gain them as well, but you don't actually lose.
My purpose was actually to relate NINTENDO events with cookies. The discrimination of the event-only pokemon is why the old-school pokemon fans lost their faith to NINTENDO and prefered roms to games. Of course, a rookie pokemon fan would have to download roms (the older pokemon games are obviously not on sale anymore).

изм
May 20th, 2009, 01:59 AM
It's okay if people download the Roms, cause i don't think lot of people are able to afford it, even if they could they may have restrictions from parents and whatnot.

and it's not only the issue of ROMs, people download movies, games, songs and lot's of things from the net itself which all is illegal so i don't think it's a major issue.

mattman324
May 24th, 2009, 11:53 AM
You try buying a game when your dad believes Pokemon is retarded and for little kids - and you don't have any money of your own.

Take this, but add that my step-dad HATES ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE GAME SERIES. A pity, my mom liked Colosseum too.

Fortunately for me, my real dad, who I see every two weekends, dousn't mind.

Feathing
May 24th, 2009, 12:04 PM
I'm sorry, Wickedish, but it seems that you have forget something: not all pokemon fans are able to buy the games.
I don't like to download the games, but I couldn't afford a Gameboy Advance and I'm putting effort to get a DS.
In some countries its very hard to buy things like that, 'cause it all comes from Europe, Japan or US and it costs two or three times the prize for someone who actually lives in Europe, Japan or US.
I don't feel comfortable with this, but its the only thing I can do, I love Pokemon, and I want to play it.

Besides, I don't think Nintendo is going to crush out just because some download the games... I mean, do you know that Pokemon is one of the best sellers franchises?

This is the same that occurs with movies and music. Sometimes you can't buy a cd, or you can't find a movie, so you download it. Sorry, I don't want to look rude, but I wouldn't believe you if you tell me that you have never downloaded a movie or some songs with Ares or eMule...

Ru-Kun
May 24th, 2009, 01:00 PM
Also, just fyi to everyone, it's still illegal to download the ROMs even if you own the game.

Wait I thought it was only illegal if you didn't already own an actual copy of the game. I think I'm confused now. This may sound stupid, but this isn't like a get arrested kind of illegal (I don't think so, but I was just wondering).

Serendipity
May 24th, 2009, 01:12 PM
Wait I thought it was only illegal if you didn't already own an actual copy of the game. I think I'm confused now. This may sound stupid, but this isn't like a get arrested kind of illegal (I don't think so, but I was just wondering).
No, you won't get arrested, as far as I know.

It is illegal to download roms, it isn't illegal however to make a backup on your computer.

Cherrim
May 27th, 2009, 04:24 AM
Wait I thought it was only illegal if you didn't already own an actual copy of the game. I think I'm confused now. This may sound stupid, but this isn't like a get arrested kind of illegal (I don't think so, but I was just wondering).
Nope, it's still illegal and if you're caught, yeah, you could be arrested and charged. As far as I know, Nintendo isn't big on trying to catch people who download their games as ROMs though.

Think of it this way: you buy a FireRed cartridge. Let's assume you lose that cartridge and won't see it again. If you download a ROM, sure you still have access to it, but if ROMs weren't available? You'd probably be buying a new copy and Nintendo loses money. :(

I think it's legal to make a backup of your save file but the game itself is a no-no.

KurlyFries
May 27th, 2009, 06:28 PM
I only download ROMs under three conditions:
1) I lost my GBA cartridge of it.
2) It's discontinued. (Ex. Downloading Pokemon gold or Super Mario World for SNES)
3) I'm saving up for a console game and I need something to tide me over. (This generally follows one of the other two rules though)

ROMs and piracy and the like are bad if Nintendo's still selling the product. Whenever the next handheld comes out, then I'll get a CycloDS or a DS Emulator to play all the DS games I was too broke to buy.

Or I just buy the game.

BHwolfgang
May 27th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Nintendo losing money?

That'll be the day. That day might come sooner than one might think. … It's possible!

I wonder what the world would be like without ROM's…

FalconJoker
May 27th, 2009, 06:47 PM
I've always bought games. I download roms and emulators of older systems, but that's because they aren't sold anymore and they won't make money off of them anyways. But any of the newers systems that are still being sold, I always buy the game.

Bulbasaur!
June 4th, 2009, 05:42 AM
I'm definitely buying Soul Silver, and I'm getting a DS just for that.

*Checks Piggy bank*

Ah, never mind.

I wonder what the world would be like without ROM's…

Hackers would have to find something else to do other than sitting in front of their computers.

Conor
June 4th, 2009, 08:23 AM
I always buy the games.
The $30 is well worth it considering the amount of hours of fun I get from every pokemon game I've baught.

xxshiny_umbreonXX
June 4th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Meh...I usually just buy the games.The money is worth it.I also take CARE of my games so i don't ruin them. When i'm not playing i put them in my game case, i don't over cheat, i don't overplay.I can only see someone downloading a rom if they can't afford the game or if they lost a discontinued game. For instance if something happend to my crystal i'd possibly download a rom. Or save my money to buy a new copy.it's really up to the player.

Superjub
June 4th, 2009, 10:39 AM
I am proud to say I didn't download a Platinum ROM. :D
Yeah, I just waited (even though I'm still peeved they got rid of the Slot Machines. >_>) Anyway, I dont play ROM's often, and even when I do, I own the game (though that doesn't really make me any better. :\)

Yuri Lowell
June 4th, 2009, 06:24 PM
I dislike the idea of downloading ROMs, but a big part of the fandom on the internet is held together by ROM hacking. If ROM's were somehow totally deleted, and could never come back.. that would be a serious blow to the fandom, I would think.

& Someone mentioned before that playing ROMs wasn't the same as playing it on whatever handheld you own, I agree. I find it a bit dull, actually. I'd much rather play the games on my DS. Still, I understand that for some it's either ROMs, or no Pokemon.

NDS525
June 5th, 2009, 07:18 PM
I always buy the games but if I want to make a walkthrough on Youtube I would download the rom.

Mr. Tabachi
June 6th, 2009, 12:01 AM
i cant donlode romz cus my cpuder is not workin cuz i live in portugal =(

Pingouin_7
June 6th, 2009, 03:03 PM
Guess what? There's more people buying the games at the stores than downloading them.

The only Pokémon games I downloaded are Japanese R/G/B and I didn't play them really much, I started a game in R/G and not Blue, but I only retrieved the starter at the start.