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изм
May 20th, 2009, 02:19 AM
Now this one's for all those who have played Emerald. We all know the story, that there once waged a battle between Kyogre and Groudon in order to dominate the Earth. We also know the end that Rayquaza came to stop this battle (if he hadn't we wouldn't be here voting and posting! lol) Now my question is who would've won this battle if Rayquaza hadn't stopped them, who would've won? PS - Basically, Kyogre is of the water type so he has an advantage over the ground typed Groudon. But Groudon has a secret weapon too, Solarbeam! (its a level up move for him ,so a wild Groudon will learn Solarbeam) and combine that with his ability Drought (continuous sunnyday) he came rapidly fire Solarbeams! So that makes it a very tough fight.

I think Kyogre would've won coz he's got the water type STAB (same type attack bonus) against a Groudon of the ground type. Besides, Kyogre's Special Attack is very high comapered to the sp.def of Groudon!

That makes Kyogre the winner!

Besides, Kyogre was winning after all...cause we can still see the effects, there's 71% of water compared to just 29% of land, on the surface of the Earth! ( xD )

TFN
May 20th, 2009, 02:29 AM
Yeh I think Kyorge would have won because he gets the STAB and has the type advantage

Sweet Jasmine
May 20th, 2009, 04:10 AM
Me Too Kyogre would win Because even it's Ground Type
Water is still Powerful >3 Look at the Resistance in Marriland *giggles*
But Miltank will Pawn them All Okies? *winks* >3
Kawaii~

-Yasumin >3 Your Sweet Friend ^_^

Translator
May 20th, 2009, 04:21 AM
I think Kyogre will win. Based on the scene in Pokemon Emerald, Kyogre would've surely won if Rayquaza didn't arrive. Since they were battling in the middle of the water at Sootopolis City and Kyogre was in the water while Groudon was standing in a piece of land.

Sweet Jasmine
May 20th, 2009, 04:40 AM
Your Right it's like The Land will be gone if Kyogre use Tsunami xD *giggles*
Haha funny >3 *laughs*

-Yasumin >3 Your Sweet Friend ^_^

shanecdavis
May 20th, 2009, 08:47 AM
Actually, it totally depends on whose ability came second. If Drizzle came after Drought, then Kyogre would win since it can OHKO Groudon with a STAB Surf. If Drought came after Drizzle, the attack power of Water moves are cut in half and then it would come down to which Pokemon is faster. Since they have the same base Spd of 90, it is basically a coin toss. If Groudon attacks first, it wins since its STAB Earthquake (which does more damage than Solarbeam) would 2HKO Kyogre.

templekeeper
May 20th, 2009, 08:49 AM
Groudon would obviously evaporate Kyogre's water and then take the battle to soil. Groudon uses its ARMS to make some Kyogre kabobs.

EDIT: Sootopolis is a CRATER. Underneath the pool is a bunch of GROUND. Groudon is the one with the real field advantage here.

richdevildog559
May 20th, 2009, 08:55 AM
Actually, it totally depends on whose ability came second. If Drizzle came after Drought, then Kyogre would win since it can OHKO Groudon with a STAB Surf. If Drought came after Drizzle, the attack power of Water moves are cut in half and then it would come down to which Pokemon is faster. Since they have the same base Spd of 90, it is basically a coin toss. If Groudon attacks first, it wins since its STAB Earthquake (which does more damage than Solarbeam) would 2HKO Kyogre.

i actually agree with this. cause it would come down to who came second. so in order for this to be really determined...Rayquaza needs to sit somewhere on the side lines and have his air lock ability active.

AntiVenom
May 20th, 2009, 03:00 PM
Kyogre would have. But I would have perferred that Groudon would win..

BHwolfgang
May 20th, 2009, 04:12 PM
To be honest, both would neutralize each other, as 'land and water are suppose to be equally balance to create harmony'.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
May 24th, 2009, 08:56 AM
damn thats pretty hard, I'll have to go with my favorite out of these 2 which is Groundon


:t354:TG

streetends08
May 26th, 2009, 08:12 PM
kyogre water puts out fire lol

Lt. Silver
May 26th, 2009, 11:57 PM
I pretty sure that the legend is that they're absolutely even, they're absolulty even in strength so they'd keep battling forever unless they destroyed the world or a meteor hit or something.

Alexithymia~
May 27th, 2009, 12:17 AM
Obviously we can't know for definite but I'm thinking Kyogre with the obvious type advantage and the fact the world is more water than land. xD Just an opinion.

Eon-Rider
May 27th, 2009, 12:27 AM
I think it's foolish to think of it from a game point of view. Still, Kyogre would dominate due to its type advantage.

Khadhar
May 27th, 2009, 10:21 AM
Wasn't the whole reason they were put to sleep in the first place BECAUSE they kept battling without a victor?

Pokeyomom
May 27th, 2009, 10:33 AM
Probably Kyorge. I would sincerly hope Groudon, just because he is the awesomeness.

*Use fissure cough cough*

Potato_Hurrican
May 30th, 2009, 06:31 AM
i think groudon would win. drought + solarbeam would own the fins off kyogre

Jas_66
May 30th, 2009, 07:56 AM
thank god rayquaza came and saved groudons life...
yh kyroge would of won.

Vuallum
May 30th, 2009, 04:09 PM
I disagree with the solarbeam idea, as Groudon has garbage sp.atk and Kyogre has (in this case) blissey-like sp.def.

Seeing as you are forced to wake up Groudon before even seeing aqua steal the submarine, one could try to assume that kyogre came into battle second, so Kyogre would have won probably... Unless the fight between the 2 is just like a Wobbuffet match with both having leftovers :P

derozio
June 18th, 2009, 02:55 AM
I just think that kyogre would have won as he has huge sp attk to defeat groudon AND huge sp def to counter Groudon's so called secret weapon Solarbeam. Groudon also stands a chance if he might have used fissure and it would have hit kyogre.

Ayselipera
June 18th, 2009, 01:55 PM
Kyorge would have easily won.

Water > Ground

True Reign
June 18th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Hard choice, but in the end I'll have to say Kyogre.

Why?

Becaue not only does Kyogre have have the STAB ___, but also Kyogre could just 'swim' away if we are in the anime. In the anime, Kyogre could also just create a whirlpool and drag Groudon underwater.

I Laugh at your Misfortune!
June 18th, 2009, 02:22 PM
It would depend whose weather effect was in play, surely? And remember Mage, Groudon could supposedly cause droughts, so the sea isn't as much of a barrier as you might think :D

JollyRoger25
June 18th, 2009, 03:06 PM
Yeah, the whole point is that if Gorudon and Kyogre are allowed to continue fighting, then they would have destroyed the world, but Rayquaza comes in and stops *cough* from beating *cough*'s butt....... Hah, no difinitive answer!!!!!!!!

Alec_
June 19th, 2009, 07:29 PM
I think it's the same. Kyogre got water attacks. Groudon got a Grass Type Attack ( Solar Beam ) and it's so powerful. And i think no need to cast it slowly. Groudon got a Drought.
So it would be cast times and times :3. But. Kyogre can do Water Attacks and it's Groudon Disadvantage so it must be pretty tie :3. It depends on the Luck of the Pokemon. XD

~Fairytales.

lolwut
June 19th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Kyogre is faster/end of discussion.

seeker
June 19th, 2009, 07:47 PM
You've even proved it yourself!
Kyogre xD
STAB advantage my friend

2A4Rulez
June 19th, 2009, 08:41 PM
Groudon of course!!! (He 's awesome like that)

altaria221
June 19th, 2009, 09:04 PM
When you think about it in a competitve battle sense, Kyogre attacks Groudons weaker sp def with his higher sp atk

But when you think in real life, or something like that, fish out of water= big problems

TEAM BLUE
June 19th, 2009, 09:29 PM
It Kinda Depends On The Pokemon That Goes First.....If Groudon Goes First And Uses Solorbeam It Won!If Kyogre Goes First And Uses A Water Type Move It Won!Mostly I Think Kyogre Won.....But Doesn't A Hot Weather Weakens Water Type?.....

Cassino
June 20th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Neither.
Legends are tediously like that, unfortunately.

Revise Librarian
June 21st, 2009, 03:54 PM
Kyogre. He's got a good Special Attack and Water Spout could wipe out Groudon in a single hit.

~MagmortaЯ~
June 27th, 2009, 03:44 PM
Kyorge, is my bet.
FILLLLLLLLLLLLLLERRRRS

extramaster
July 1st, 2009, 02:59 AM
Kyogre, extinguish fire (lol) but on the other hand, groudon is also a ground type and we all know that ground can beat water. but still, overall I think that kyogre will win (even though I have ruby no sapphire)

Roxasabridged
July 2nd, 2009, 05:41 AM
Kyogre has too many advantages. Higher Sp. Stats, Water STAB, Auto Rain Dance...

So yeah, Groudon's screwed.

Jahool
July 2nd, 2009, 08:36 AM
I think it would depend on speed and if it was drizzle or drought

Sweet Smoochum
July 6th, 2009, 03:35 PM
Kyogre. It has higher special defense. When Groudon's using Solarbeam, you must take in sunlight first, or make sure Sunny Day is in effect before using it. My vote goes to Kyogre. (That's why I chose Sapphire over Ruby.)

mitzoken
July 6th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Kyogre. He's got a good Special Attack and Water Spout could wipe out Groudon in a single hit.

Amen, regardless if Sunny Day/Drought is weakening it.

Saltare.
July 6th, 2009, 05:49 PM
Kyogre.


No pokemon stands a chance against Sheer Cold, including Groudon.

And the fact that Groudon can learn Solar Beam and Thunderbolt((or Thunder, idr)) doesn't mean anything.

Grexx
July 6th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Now this one's for all those who have played Emerald. We all know the story, that there once waged a battle between Kyogre and Groudon in order to dominate the Earth. We also know the end that Rayquaza came to stop this battle (if he hadn't we wouldn't be here voting and posting! lol) Now my question is who would've won this battle if Rayquaza hadn't stopped them, who would've won? PS - Basically, Kyogre is of the water type so he has an advantage over the ground typed Groudon. But Groudon has a secret weapon too, Solarbeam! (its a level up move for him ,so a wild Groudon will learn Solarbeam) and combine that with his ability Drought (continuous sunnyday) he came rapidly fire Solarbeams! So that makes it a very tough fight.

I think Kyogre would've won coz he's got the water type STAB (same type attack bonus) against a Groudon of the ground type. Besides, Kyogre's Special Attack is very high comapered to the sp.def of Groudon!

That makes Kyogre the winner!

Besides, Kyogre was winning after all...cause we can still see the effects, there's 71% of water compared to just 29% of land, on the surface of the Earth! ( xD )

Not really, that's only in " game battle" sense. Groudon and Kyogre probably would have been fighting for all of eternity if the player never wasn't able to get involved. Their battle would had lead to endless droughts, rain, earthquakes, basically destroying the earth. So either neither would win, or they would both destroy themselves. At least that's how I see it.

Kunai~
July 8th, 2009, 07:39 AM
Me Too Kyogre would win Because even it's Ground Type
Water is still Powerful >3 Look at the Resistance in Marriland *giggles*
But Miltank will Pawn them All Okies? *winks* >3
Kawaii~

-Yasumin >3 Your Sweet Friend ^_^

I agree lol
filllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeer

GlitchCity
January 1st, 2010, 08:15 PM
uh, well I guess it can go either way. It you teach groudon solar beam (I think it learns by level up) it can own kyorge.