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AuraAshley
July 7th, 2009, 03:50 AM
do you think its gonna have 5th gen pokemon in it or do you think its actaully gonna feature ho-oh or lugia? put your opinions in please

Ash493
July 7th, 2009, 07:32 AM
Actually the only new pokemon here are: Arceus(who we very well know!) and Notched Ear Pichu(who is very famous coz of HGSS). I seriously don't think that any new pokemon will be featured in the next movie. Neither Ho-Oh nor Lugia may be in this movie as this movie is about arceus and the dragon trio.

Result: No new pokemon, No Ho-Oh,Lugia.
He doesn't talk 'bout movie 12 ;)
Movie 13 is speculating one. Check SPP/PB/BG.
And imo we have HG/SS so it's GONNA feature Johto legends

>Feelings<
July 7th, 2009, 08:47 AM
It may have three to four 5th generation Pokemon, if they decide to continue it further, specially as a form of promotion.

And yeah, I was pretty much sure a movie about Ho-oh and Lugia would be the next one, specially since Ho-oh was never shown before.

This gets me to think something - if Ash saw Ho-oh only at the start of any region, does it mean his journey is coming to an end?

Tribulations
July 7th, 2009, 08:53 AM
It was already reported that Ho-Oh and Lugia would feature in Movie 13 (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Limited_12th_Pok%C3%A9mon_movie_screening_reveals_preview_for_13th_movie), and that they will fight each other at some point. There's a good chance that at least some Gen V Pokémon will be featured - certainly, if none are in Movie 12 then we can be practically assured that they will appear.

Wings Don't Cry
July 7th, 2009, 09:30 AM
I've always wondered what the connection between Ho-Oh and Lugia were in the anime, I think Lugia was like the guardian of the sea or something and Ho-Oh flies around the world until mankind is ready to meet it again, so it seems like a really really vague connection

Ayselipera
July 7th, 2009, 04:39 PM
I've always wondered what the connection between Ho-Oh and Lugia were in the anime, I think Lugia was like the guardian of the sea or something and Ho-Oh flies around the world until mankind is ready to meet it again, so it seems like a really really vague connection

Ho-oh and Lugia are polar opposites.
Ho-oh is the guardian of the sky and Lugia is the guardian of the sea.
I once heard something like Lugia represents storms and death while Ho-oh represents rainbows and life, but don't hold me to that.

Anyways there like Kyorge and Groudon.
They were connected, but were opposites.
Kyorge represents water and Groudon represents Earth.

Lornami
July 7th, 2009, 05:44 PM
I'll drop dead the day big legendary pokemon don't get pissed at someone and fight just because they are big legendary pokemon.

owo If Lugia spoke in the second movie, does this mean Ho-oh speak will as well?

Ash493
July 7th, 2009, 05:58 PM
I just realized that thanks to this the 13th season could be in Johto!

Retribution
July 7th, 2009, 07:06 PM
I'll drop dead the day big legendary pokemon don't get pissed at someone and fight just because they are big legendary pokemon.

owo If Lugia spoke in the second movie, does this mean Ho-oh speak will as well?

Well, Lugia's a Psychic-type (thought it should have been water >_>) Pokemon, so that probably explains why it 'speaks' (I'm assuming it is speaking telepathically, and not just generally speaking. XD) Though, knowing the anime, there is always the possibility of Ho-Oh seaking.

Onto the movie, I am actually slightly suprised it's about Ho-Oh ad Lugia/ :O Why? Simply, if my memory serves, there wasn't a movie related to FR/LG (though, I dont know much abou the anime so I could be wrong) so I would of assumed they wouldn't make a movie related to HG/SS :\

Ash493
July 7th, 2009, 07:21 PM
Simply, if my memory serves, there wasn't a movie related to FR/LG (though, I dont know much abou the anime so I could be wrong)
I guess it was becuase Mew and Mew2 were already in 2 movies (Mew2 was in special movie Mewtwo Returns. And in fact even in Mastermind of Mirage Pokemon as well as Mew)

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
July 7th, 2009, 07:33 PM
I'll drop dead the day big legendary pokemon don't get pissed at someone and fight just because they are big legendary pokemon.

owo If Lugia spoke in the second movie, does this mean Ho-oh speak will as well?

I would love to see that colorful bird talk


:t354:TG

Drew
July 7th, 2009, 09:31 PM
I'll drop dead the day big legendary pokemon don't get pissed at someone and fight just because they are big legendary pokemon.

owo If Lugia spoke in the second movie, does this mean Ho-oh speak will as well?

I have a feeling that neither one of them will take. Kind of like how Lucario in the series never talks, and just growls like regular Pokemon.. :/ Since it already had it's moment of 'hey-I-can-talk!'. Something tells me Lugia and Ho-Oh will just screech at eachother. >_>;

AdvancedK47
July 7th, 2009, 09:42 PM
Oh wow, they sure never did THIS with Kanto remakes, why with Johto Eh?

Well, If the pattern is correct there will be a fifth gen Pokemon in this movie somehow. Ho-oh and Lugia are probably gonna start fighting over who got the last piece of cake and I will crap brick laughing at Dawn for no reason.

Greene1516
July 7th, 2009, 09:45 PM
Was it not recently confirmed that Ho-oh will feature in the 13th movie??

Neko64
July 7th, 2009, 10:09 PM
Well I know it's going to feature Ho-oh and Lugia. I'm not so sure about the 5the generation though.. it might. It wouldn't be the first time it's happened, so it's not unlikely.

UraharaSteph
July 8th, 2009, 02:17 AM
Pokémon 2000 is one of my fave movies...
they better not damage my image of Lugia like they have Mew...

TheAliveTrain
July 9th, 2009, 01:33 AM
I just realized that thanks to this the 13th season could be in Johto!

The way the anime and the games is related made me think of that already. In a certain way, I already knew that this was going to happen (a movie in Johto, which would feature Ho-oH and Raikou, but well, I failed at Raikou (and maybe not) ).

As of Kanto, there was no movie, indeed there as a remake of red and green (about games), and in the anime Ash goes back to Kanto to battle the Frontier Brains. In this season of the anime, some Pokémon, as Munchlax and Weavile, are featured.

Then I just made sense. Any new info about a new generation was revealed yet. Ash, on the anime, has already 7 badges, which means that the end of this season is near. Platinum is released with a new Battle Frontier. Two new games are confirmed as remakes of gold and silver. This made me think that the next season will be on Johto, with Ash defeating the new Frontier.. uh. Brains.

Then, I just linked stuff. Ho-oH and Raikou don't have a movie yet. They are going back to Johto. We are near the end or the start of a 5th gen, so new Pokémon have to be announced.
And ta-daaaa!
New movie with Ho-Oh and Raikou.
I win.

Well not in the Raikou part, it seems that it is gonna be the only Pokémon not featuring a Movie role. But who knows, he may feature yet!

Akiyuki Aretukasu
July 9th, 2009, 04:30 AM
I think there will be at least 1 5th-Gen. Pokemon in Movie 13. I mean, look how closely new Pokemon have been revealed in previous generations. So far, no new Pokemon have been revealed in the 4th-Gen., though some will argue that Arceus is new (which I don't agree with, seeing as it is already programed into the games).


New Pokemon revealed in 1st-Gen. - Togepi, Marill, Snubbull, Donphan, Ledyba, Elekid, Bellossom, Lugia (& Ho-oh if you're including non-movie appearances)

New Pokemon revealed in 2nd-Gen. - Wailmer, Azurill, Kecleon, Wynaut, Duskull, Latios, Latias (& Blaziken if you're including non-movie appearances)

New Pokemon revealed in 3rd-Gen. - Munchlax, Lucario, Weavile, Bonsly, Mime Jr., Manaphy, Chatot, Buizel

New Pokemon revealed in 4th-Gen. - none


I doubt this Lugia will be able to talk, but if it does, I think Ho-oh should too. Then Ho-oh can finally say "Ash, I am your father." :P

Haza
July 9th, 2009, 05:20 AM
I think there will be at least 1 5th-Gen. Pokemon in Movie 13. I mean, look how closely new Pokemon have been revealed in previous generations. So far, no new Pokemon have been revealed in the 4th-Gen., though some will argue that Arceus is new (which I don't agree with, seeing as it is already programed into the games).


New Pokemon revealed in 1st-Gen. - Togepi, Marill, Snubbull, Donphan, Ledyba, Elekid, Bellossom, Lugia

New Pokemon revealed in 2nd-Gen. - Wailmer, Azurill, Kecleon, Wynaut, Duskull, Latios, Latias (& Blaziken if you're including non-movie appearances)

New Pokemon revealed in 3rd-Gen. - Munchlax, Lucario, Weavile, Manaphy

New Pokemon revealed in 4th-Gen. - none


I doubt this Lugia will be able to talk, but if it does, I think Ho-oh should too. Then Ho-oh can finally say "Ash, I am your father." :P

Dont forget Bonsly & Mime Jr.

Akiyuki Aretukasu
July 9th, 2009, 06:30 AM
Dont forget Bonsly & Mime Jr.

I figured I had missed some. Thanks. I fixed the post. :)

Ash493
July 9th, 2009, 06:43 AM
Then Ho-oh can finally say "Ash, I am your father." :P
Lol nice call :D
I think movie 13 is the right place for presenting 5th gen pokemon.
It should be like in 9th movie what was the last movie before 4th gen.

UraharaSteph
July 9th, 2009, 07:49 AM
According to my friend who has a taster version of HG and SS or something along the lines (The lucky devil) New Pokémon from the 5th gen are making an appearance in those games. Not all of them though, just a handful. So it looks like they were keeping the 5th gen back so they could release a teasing handful of them into HG and SS, so maybe a few new ones will pop up in this movie!

Anyway back to the point
I'm really stressing out about how Lugia will be portrayed. They milked Mew for all it's worth, so I just hope they don't damage my view of Lugia. He should be able to talk and so should Ho-oh so they can turn around and say

"f*** 4Kids I'm riding this sl*t Japanese style!"

But who knows what will happen?

>Feelings<
July 9th, 2009, 08:54 AM
According to my friend who has a taster version of HG and SS or something along the lines (The lucky devil) New Pokémon from the 5th gen are making an appearance in those games. Not all of them though, just a handful. So it looks like they were keeping the 5th gen back so they could release a teasing handful of them into HG and SS, so maybe a few new ones will pop up in this movie!

Please don't spread lies. Many people might get confused.
And if somehow you're not lying, then you can be sure your friend is lying.

There will never be a single new Pokemon from the 5th generation or anywhere in HG and SS.
Otherwise, they will not be able to connect to D/P/Pt.

But yeah, there might still be new Pokemon in the 13th movie.

UraharaSteph
July 9th, 2009, 11:45 AM
As far as I know he isn't lying.

I thought he was lying when he first told me about HG SS but it soon shut me up when it came out on the internet more publicly. I'm just saying what he's told me and I don't see why he'd lie to me.

Tré
July 9th, 2009, 12:21 PM
a movie with lugia and ho-oh on it is cool...but to have new poke's?? like that's gonna happen...xD

Akiyuki Aretukasu
July 9th, 2009, 06:02 PM
As far as I know he isn't lying.

I thought he was lying when he first told me about HG SS but it soon shut me up when it came out on the internet more publicly. I'm just saying what he's told me and I don't see why he'd lie to me.

It's most likely just a hack. He may not be aware of that and thinks he's telling the truth.

UraharaSteph
July 9th, 2009, 06:31 PM
It's most likely just a hack. He may not be aware of that and thinks he's telling the truth.
Ah that could be true. But they looked authentic to me. Who knows, I guess we'll just have to wait for the games to release in America (Or in my case in England)


Does anyone know the storyline of this movie apart from it involving Lugia and Ho-oh.

Haza
July 9th, 2009, 11:29 PM
No one does honey. It was only a teaser.