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TFN
July 15th, 2009, 01:29 PM
This is the first team I have made and my first RMT thread . I have tweaked it here and there even changing it completely.

So without further interuptions here is team FTW

At a Glance

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/45/Spr_b_g4_376.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/bf/Spr_b_g4_373.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/7/73/Spr_b_g3_233.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/6/64/Spr_b_g4_392.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/d/d6/Spr_b_g4_230.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/18/Spr_b_g4_482.png


In Depth

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/metagross.png

Metagross@ Choice Scarf
Jolly
Clear Body
EV's
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 Sp. Def

Trick
Stealth Rock
Meteor Mash
Explosion

Info:
This guys job is to set up Stealth Rock but first he tricks the Scarf so anyone that uses a support move gets stuck.


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/salamence.png


Salamence@ Life Orb
Naughty
Intimidate
Ev's
232 Atk/ 24 Sp.Atk/ 252 Spe

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Blast


Info:

I usually bring this guy in after Metagross to try and get an early sweep. If the opponent uses EQ or a fire type move on Metagross I switch into Mence because the opponent will be forced to switch out thanks to the choice scarf. I then DD up and try to Outrage sweep.


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/porygon2.png

Porygon 2 @ Leftovers
Bold + DEF/ -ATK
Trace
EV's
252 HP/ 216 DEF/ 40 S.ATK

Recover
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave

Info:
This is my Gyarados and Salamence counter I switch into them and trace them. I then T wave and either use Recover if they attacked or attack with T-Bolt or Ice Beam.

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/infernape.png

Infernape @Choice Band
Jolly + Spe/ -S.ATK
Blaze
EV's
252 ATK/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP

Flare Blitz
Close Combat
U Turn
Stone Edge

Info:
Well I needed a good fire type and also a fighting type so I thought of Infernape. Most people think its a mix varient so when they switch they get a CB Blitz or CC in they're face.

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/kingdra.png

Kingdra @Life Orb
Naughty +ATK/ -S.DEF
Swift Swim
240 ATK/ 252 S.ATK/ 16 Spe

Rain Dance
WaterFall
Hydro Pump
Draco Meteor

Info:
I needed a good wall breaker and a water pokemon so I went for Kingdra. With a one turn set up with Rain Dance this guy can cause some havoc. I'm also thinking about putting someone else in who could benifit from the rain but I dont know who.


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/azelf.png


Azelf @Choice Scarf
Adamant +ATK/ S.ATK
Levitate
EV's
252 ATK/ 252 Spe/ 4 DEF

U-Turn
Ice Punch
Zen Headbutt
Explosion

Info:
Azelfs attack and special attack have the same base stat but when I think of Azelf I think of a special sweeper, so I decided to use a physical CS set. This set is capable of revenge killing and thats why I chose it.

Wolflare
August 1st, 2009, 02:19 PM
Your team will be good if It was Porygon-z and your infernape didnt know U-turn cos its a Bug move.
Porygon2 is used because it is a lot more bulkier. Porygon-Z can't wall Salamence nor Gyarados.

U-turn is a great move because it scouts, and leaves you one step ahead of your opponent (could possibly mean a Rain Dance for Kingdra, etc).

As for the team, I rate it in a few.

Divine~Deoxys
August 1st, 2009, 02:28 PM
Ok. Some advice. Seems a good team.
I'm not going to comment on Torterra or Dragonite because i don't have a clue about them.

Like yanmega guy said, go Porygon-Z.

But U-Turn is fine, good for scouting out attacks.

Noone else benefits from Rain Dance, so, don't do that set, use DD.

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Adamant
Swift Swim
252 Atk / 24 SpA / 232 Spe
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Waterfall
Substitute

I suggest Life Orb for late-game wall-breaking.
Sniper helps for crits, but i'd go Swift Swim so you can take advantage of opposing Rain Dance teams.

Then, to balance everything out, go for Life Orb Azelf.Or any other set actually.

Azelf @ Life Orb
Naive
36 Atk / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Explosion
Psychic
Flamethrower
Grass Knot / HP Ground / U-Turn


up to you which one of the moves you use in the fourth slot.
U-turn wears down switch-ins, but Grass Knot is a more powerful option for taking down Tyranitar. Hidden Power Ground is also a decent option to consider so you are not entirely walled by Heatran.

Anti
August 1st, 2009, 04:04 PM
Porygon2 is used because it is a lot more bulkier. Porygon-Z can't wall Salamence nor Gyarados.

U-turn is a great move because it scouts, and leaves you one step ahead of your opponent (could possibly mean a Rain Dance for Kingdra, etc).

As for the team, I rate it in a few.

In the future, it's easier just to report the post so I can delete it, especially when the poster clearly lacks knowledge of competitive battling.

EDIT:

Like yanmega guy said, go Porygon-Z.
→ When you make suggestions, back them up with REASON
Why should their Scizor run Superpower over Brick Break? Why should their Lucario be replaced with Machamp? You cannot assume the members you give rates to automatically know what you're suggesting. So when you propose a change, tell the member why, explain. If you yourself don't know, what are you doing rating teams? Show some understanding.

I mean, Porygon-Z is near-obsolete for a reason.

TFN
August 1st, 2009, 04:12 PM
Thanks for the Info guys I've changed the team around a bit since I posted it so I now have a Metagross lead instead of Torterra and a DDmence instead of Dragonite


Metagross@ Choice Scarf
Jolly
Clear Body
EV's
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 Sp. Def

Trick
Stealth Rock
Meteor Mash
Explosion

I trick First turn then either Stealth Rock or switch if they decide to attack


Salamence@ Life Orb
Naughty
Intimidate
Ev's
232 Atk/ 24 Sp.Atk/ 252 Spe

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Blast

I usually bring this guy in after Metagross to try and get an early sweep. If the opponent uses EQ or a fire type move on Metagross I switch inot Mence cause the opponent will be forced to switch out thanks to the choice scarf. I then DD up and try to Outrage sweep.



Azelf @ Life Orb
Naive
36 Atk / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Explosion
Psychic
Flamethrower
Grass Knot / HP Ground / U-Turn

I am going to try this set out to see if it works

ShAdowWAlker1
August 1st, 2009, 04:17 PM
The only advice i can give is to go stone edge>wood hammer on torrtera. Running SE and EQ is a nice little combo and SE will let you hit pokes that EQ cant.

Divine~Deoxys
August 1st, 2009, 05:08 PM
Anti: Sorry, i got rushed. What meant to say was:


You should run Porygon-Z over Porygon2 because it has higher stats overall, in particular Spe and SpA.


TFN: Dude, those two look good.


ShAdowWAlker1: Read the whole thread first, the guy said he's dropped Torterra.

Anti
August 1st, 2009, 05:12 PM
Anti: Sorry, i got rushed. What meant to say was:


You should run Porygon-Z over Porygon2 because it has higher stats overall, in particular Spe and SpA.

Yes, but that's not saying anything (and it's not entirely true). If Porygon-Z had better stats in every stat and they both played the same role, that would be true, but Porygon2 is far better defensively and plays a completely different role. The 'Porygon' in their names is one of the few similarities between them really.

Divine~Deoxys
August 2nd, 2009, 11:46 AM
A valid argument. Looking at it, Porygon2 is definitely the better choice for what he's using it for.