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Kanto_Johto
July 17th, 2009, 10:09 AM
I've been playing through Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen again (yes, both versions) and have noticed that the level gap from the Viridian City Gym Leader to the Elite 4 is huge. I have a habit of overleveling my Pokemon for each game. All of my Pokemon (see below) were at level 55 when I beat the Saffron Gym. All of a sudden, all my Pokemon are at level 59, and I'm underleveled! It is indeed very frustrating. I can't figure out how I managed to beat the league first time on Pokemon Yellow without using any healing items. Especially since you can't rematch trainers on it.

Anyone else find this?

Sweet Candace
July 17th, 2009, 10:29 AM
Well, they're remakes of R/B/Y, but I see you're point. The level gap seems unnatural. 10-15 levels isn't right and causes for a lot of unneeded training.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
July 17th, 2009, 11:24 AM
I never knew that, and probably they do that so you can train more and take longer to finish the game


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Alli
July 17th, 2009, 11:56 AM
In Emerald, all the wild Pokemon are horrendously underlevel compared to mine. It makes training take a while. Incidentally, in GSC, the wild Pokemon are extremely underleveled. There's always some kind of level problem in the games, but for the FRLG one, rebattled a buttload of trainers and uber trained in Victory Road. They don't call it the Pokemon League for nothing.

skeddles
July 17th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Yeah, I found all the Gym leaders easy, but when I got to the elite 4, I had to train a ton, And try over and over again. But I guess that's how it's supposed to be: hard to do.

Wings Don't Cry
July 18th, 2009, 12:03 AM
Lvl 59 is really high for me, when I get up to Fushcia City, my starter is lvl 48 and my others are in their 30s, then I'm up to the Elite 4 with a lvl 53 Starter and early 40s for my other pokemon and I only have 1 HM slave

Musician of Literature
July 18th, 2009, 04:27 AM
In Emerald, all the wild Pokemon are horrendously underlevel compared to mine. It makes training take a while. Incidentally, in GSC, the wild Pokemon are extremely underleveled. There's always some kind of level problem in the games, but for the FRLG one, rebattled a buttload of trainers and uber trained in Victory Road. They don't call it the Pokemon League for nothing.

Yeah, I kindof noticed that in emerald. Lets see, Steven has top Level 60, which is the strongest Pokemon, besides Rayquaza, because he's a legendary. Cynthia has a Level 66 Garchomp, a 6 level gap...

Greene1516
July 18th, 2009, 04:43 AM
I've never had the level problem, my guys are usually the same level as the first E4's Pokemon and I do fine.

Lycaeus
July 18th, 2009, 04:45 AM
Like stated above, it's so you'll play the game longer. They had to have something for you to do while waiting for D/P lol.

Ayselipera
July 19th, 2009, 08:23 AM
Happened to me too. It was a huge pain.

TheDolph
July 19th, 2009, 05:16 PM
I refuse to go in to the league without 60s across the board so the E4 and Champion are no problem and Ice beam does miracles against G-Chomp.

Pokehead
July 20th, 2009, 10:10 AM
Yeah, I noticed the same thing when I originally reached the R/B/Y E4. Thankfully though, way back then, I had 3 super-leveled pokemon (because I didn't know where to get HM 05 Flash, so it took me HOURS to get through rock tunnel, so my Ivysaur and Clefairy went from their 20s, I believe, to their mid 50s, so yeah, the gyms where a breeze for me. Then I trained a Lapras. You figure out the rest :P

Delta Stream
July 22nd, 2009, 04:33 PM
Yeah....... the Firered's E4 was a pain in the *** for me.
Gary, actually.

Theonewhoisodd
July 22nd, 2009, 05:23 PM
I never really noticed this usually I have some legendaries and my starter is near level seventy or eighty but your right their is a huge gap.

The Corrupt Plague
August 3rd, 2009, 07:50 AM
Pokemon Leafgreen was too easy. If you want a real challenge, try colosseum.

Wanderer
August 3rd, 2009, 08:12 AM
Leafgreen was too easy. Colosseums just hard because...
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All of the Shadow Pokemon can use moves which your Shadows can't, and towards the end of the game, it takes into consideration the decision you make, i.e. you have a Fighting Pokemon out against Gardevoir so you switch out to Umbreon and the Gardevoir uses Thunderbolt. Bloody annoying in my opinion.

Dark-Soul
August 3rd, 2009, 09:51 AM
I've noticed the same problem, but I beat the Elite Four while all my Pokémon were at levels 50 to 55. I used some type advantages and alot of healing items.

SmashBro
August 3rd, 2009, 05:44 PM
i just buy loads of Full Restores and Revives, and alot of luck

Static Pichu
August 3rd, 2009, 06:04 PM
When I fought the Elite four in red, All my pokemon were between 40 and 45, except My starter and Jolteon, And I did fine, using no legendaries and alot of full restores. :)

Divine~Deoxys
August 4th, 2009, 11:58 AM
When i played LeafGreen, i thought, "wow!!bluddy strong!!", but now i know how to play through them easier (overlevelling, etc.), i think lg/fr are better than the others in that you don't feel like all the fuss after you beat the champ is for nothing, as it was actually a challenge to win.

xXI JOE IXx
August 4th, 2009, 12:20 PM
I didn't realy notice, I went in with level 50 legendarys because i was only playing to get mewtwo for platinum. If people are struggling I suggest revives and Hyper potions, I use them every time I get to a league and i always win first try

The Roshi
August 5th, 2009, 09:26 AM
The first wave E4's are always stupid/weak. Seriously. I just went through the platinum e4 with my highest level being a level 50 azelf that I didn't even use. I set up on cynthia with a level 48 gyarados (5 dragon dances) and swept her team with ease. The second wave is usually the one that requires more training and actual power.

Since this is advanced generation I have to stay on topic.. uhh

FRLG elite 4 was the hardest for me because the pokemon were not only a relatively high level but also good movesets and good AI. Like... I was actually scared when fighting gary and lance, and it was EXCITING. The hoenn e4 (even upgraded emerald) fails. They are horrendously weak and most in-game teams that I run have no problem destroying them. That's my take anyways...

Divine~Deoxys
August 5th, 2009, 09:41 AM
That's why you need to be pretty naff at in-game training, like me!! It makes E4 more of a challenge.