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Azumi
September 2nd, 2009, 07:18 AM
I've been seeing a lot of debates how Yagami Light, Death Note main character, wins Lelouch vi Brittania (or Lamperouge) and vice versa. So... I brought this here.

Please don't turn this into a flame war. D: I just wanna know how you think. And remember, everything said here (regarding the topic) is an opinion.
And if this kind of debate survives, I hope you won't answer like "i think its light he's cool" or "lelouch is badass XD". Thanks.

(Mods, if this is inappropriate, lock this. If this kind of debate has appeared in the past and had caused a massive problem, I'm sorry and will refrain from doing this kind of thing... I was just curious...
And please don't complain about my overly-bright font colour. DX)

And I believe this wouldn't really live long. D: Just wanna get this outta my head. Feel free to do anything with it.

Nuke
September 2nd, 2009, 07:23 AM
I havent seen as much of Code Geass, I stopped watching it after about 13 episodes.

IIRC, Lelouch kills people by controlling them with his eye which means he gets right up close which would be a good point but I prefer the tactical planning that Light uses (and everyone in DN does really) over what I remember that Lelouch does.

Lelouch would be a better character but the way Death Note is written it makes every character just seem seriously intelligent.

Other people will have better arguments. D:

icomeanon6
September 2nd, 2009, 08:21 AM
In terms of being inexcusably sociopathic *******s, they're about even.

I think that Death Note and Code Geass are good shows, but I can't bring myself to like their lead characters. They may be amazing at what they do, but they're just such jerks. I'd take a pathetic but nice character like Shinji Ikari over those two any day.

(Also, what were they thinking when they romanized "Lelouch"? If they want the 'ch' to be soft, it should have an 'e' on the end!)

Satoshi Ookami
September 2nd, 2009, 08:26 AM
No!! :D
I hate this comparing xD
They're both gods :D
But since my favorite character from DN is L... my vote goes to LELOUCH!

Eternal Nightmare
September 2nd, 2009, 08:58 AM
To me they are both HIGHLY intelligent and tactical so to me I say this match is about even.

PsychoJigglypuff
September 2nd, 2009, 12:19 PM
Hmm... Well, Light needs a name and face to kill. Lelouch does not. It probably takes longer to write down a name than to use the Geass, no matter how fast you write. On the other hand, if Light found out his name an face before hand, he could kill him at anytime. But, since he wouldn't target Lelouch, but his alter ego, he wouldn't have had a name or a face, and might not make the connection...

It's quite close, but I'll have to go with Lelouch. Partly because he could have killed L with the Geass and not go through the dilemma of not knowing his name. Take that, Light Yagami! >:3

Taichi
September 2nd, 2009, 03:51 PM
Light
Because Lelouch cannot eat chips as epic.

iwuzhere9
September 2nd, 2009, 04:37 PM
Its close, but my vote goes to Lelouch. He was actually trying (and succedded, if the ending of R2 says anything) to change the world into a better place, while Light was just trying to become a god, even if good did come of it.

ReyRey-Pyon
September 2nd, 2009, 08:03 PM
Lelouch wins in my opinion

Although Lelouch and Light were both extreamly smart.
Light, lost in the end. He wasnt able to carry out his plan, Althoguh he made it pretty far. He bacame a villain.
If he would have waited two seconds, it could have made alll the difference if he could have waited two seconds to gloat. Thats what killed him.


Lelouch succeeded in the end, He was able to make the world a better place, Alothoguh he hit some bumps in the road, he was able to make such unfortunate events work to his advantage. He also, unlike Light, was able to stay...sane, Although he may have acted evil at points, he was acting in order to carry out his plan.
Lelouch is a liar :>

Although they both died in the end. Lelouch was successful. His death was planned.

Plus in terms of power. Lelouch only needed direct eye contact, to kill
Light needed a face, and a name. which made things more difficult for him.
Lelouch wins.

Taichi
September 2nd, 2009, 09:09 PM
But can Lelouch make his chips sparkle? Is he sponsored by doritos?
I don't think so! :cool:

icomeanon6
September 2nd, 2009, 09:20 PM
Am I the only one here who cares about their personalities? I mean, of course they're both super-intelligent and wicked-awesome, but they're such huge jerks. You can go on about how noble their causes are (even that's up for debate), but the fact of the matter is that they're both very unpleasant human beings. I don't think I'd be able to hang around either of them for five minutes without getting sick of their self-righteous bullsh**.

Star★Seeker
September 2nd, 2009, 09:23 PM
But can Lelouch make his chips sparkle? Is he sponsored by doritos?
I don't think so! :cool:

Pizza Hut Supports the Rebellion!
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Lulu would win, only because of his Geass, otherwise, it's pretty much a draw.

Bay Alexison
September 3rd, 2009, 10:21 AM
I have to agree with icomeanon6 on this. ^^;

I watched most of Death Note and at first I like Light and he was sane, but then he went crazy later in the series and being a jerk. I can understand he was being overboard trying to get his plan to work and thus causing him to go insane, but still.

Lelouch I think is being too crazy also, even though I only watched a couple of episodes of Code Geass. Yeah, he's tactical and smart too, but urgh can't stand his ego in the second episode. ._. Then again, I might have judged too early on Lelouch, so I'll wait and see if my thoughts on him changes after getting further into the series.

Er...yeah, draw for me because while great characters and have noble causes, I can't stand their insanity when they were carrying out their plans. I'm not dissing anyone who are fans of both of them and I respect that, but those two characters are not really my favorites, that's all.

Rokusasu
September 3rd, 2009, 10:40 AM
Light would win. He'd figure out that Lulu has a Geass pretty quickly, then devise a plot to send MisaMisa out to get his name.

But in a face-to-face showdown, it's obvious Lulu would win. D:

ReyRey-Pyon
September 3rd, 2009, 10:50 AM
Light would win. He'd figure out that Lulu has a Geass pretty quickly, then devise a plot to send MisaMisa out to get his name.

But in a face-to-face showdown, it's obvious Lulu would win. D:
Unless Lelouch some how figures out that misa is trying to get his name
O:

Star★Seeker
September 3rd, 2009, 01:33 PM
Unless Lelouch some how figures out that misa is trying to get his name
O:


Lulu wouldn't know, since Misa has shinigami eyes, meaning she immediately knows the name of anyone she looks at. :P

Shiraishi
September 7th, 2009, 07:21 PM
Lelouch can pilot a giant robot with antimatter cannons.

Roxasabridged
September 8th, 2009, 10:46 AM
Am I the only one here who cares about their personalities? I mean, of course they're both super-intelligent and wicked-awesome, but they're such huge jerks. You can go on about how noble their causes are (even that's up for debate), but the fact of the matter is that they're both very unpleasant human beings. I don't think I'd be able to hang around either of them for five minutes without getting sick of their self-righteous bullsh**.

Most of the time, Lelouch acted like an ass to protect his friends and Nunnally. He hated having to lie to Nunnally. Despite his actions, he still loved her and succeeded in making a better world. I could still see him as human at the end of the series.

Light was pretty much an ass.

Finnel
September 8th, 2009, 11:26 AM
Both are terrible characters from terrible series. But seeing as Death Note is just a bit better than Code Gayass, Light it is. Even though he's got the most retarded logic I've ever seen.

Roxasabridged
September 8th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Both are terrible characters from terrible series. But seeing as Death Note is just a bit better than Code Gayass, Light it is. Even though he's got the most retarded logic I've ever seen.

Light's logic is certainly better than that 'code geass and death note suck' logic you've got going.

Finnel
September 8th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Light's logic is certainly better than that 'code geass and death note suck' logic you've got going.
Sadly, that statement is not logic, it's opinion.

If you can't accept that everybody thinks differently and have different preferences, it's probably time to start growing up. I merely stated my opinion, that's no reason to attack me. I admit that my wording in that post was a bit off, but that doesn't justify anything.

Giraffles <3
September 9th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Light clearly wins for the fact that he never shows remorse or feels bad for anything he does. He kill's without caring. While Lelouch does it some to, but he turns out to be a wonderful human being in the end. So Light definitely wins this :3.

Ayano Katagiri
September 9th, 2009, 04:17 PM
Having watched Death Note before Code Geass, I did notice the similarities between the battles of intellect. But in saying that, I definitely enjoyed Code Geass a lot more than Death Note. I didn't really like Light that much, especially in all the stuff after L dies (which I also felt that the show began to die down. Maybe I'm just a bit more obsessed with C.G. but I'm more of a Lelouch fan than Light. (Plus, Lulu's Geass and Zero > Light's note) ^^

Drew
September 9th, 2009, 06:55 PM
I saw Death Note before Code Geass, but I liked CG better. That holds true for the characters, because I like Lelouch more than Light.. but they really did remind me of eachother, in some ways. It was interesting to me how Light thought, and how he'd handle things. Same as how Lelouch would play through things like a Chess game; I found that amusing. xD

I loved both series, even though they were both fairly complex, but yeah.. Lelouch gets mah vote. :x

& If those someone how actually fought each other, ohman.. Light could write Lelouch's name in the DN, but Lelouch could also easily give him an order to do something else before he managed.

Lelouch ftw. 8D;

Yoshimi
September 9th, 2009, 07:27 PM
They're both dead, so neither.
Are you telling me no one realized this?

KnilShadowLink
September 9th, 2009, 09:46 PM
My attention span is too short, I couldn't read everyone's post.


My vote goes for Lelouch...although I haven't finished watching Code GEASS, I have finished watching Death Note. I hate Light, at first I liked him, because he seemed sane and very tactical, however when he gave up his memories he became a pussy, then when he got the Death Note back he just turned into a sociopath. However the parts of Code GEASS I have seen, have glorified Lelouch (I do have to say I was sad when Surley(?) died) Oh and please excuse my spelling...I'm not a huge fan of them. (To me Death Note started good, but when L died, I lost interest. I had to force myself to keep watching)

Bascially what I got from them is Lelouch was fighting for the erm...(I'm sorry I don't remember the name, but it's the low class people) and Light was fighting for himself.

*Wonders why L wasn't included*

Roxasabridged
September 10th, 2009, 10:01 AM
They're both dead, so neither.
Are you telling me no one realized this?

Light's plan was to be a God. He failed.

Lelouch's plan was to recreate the world and die. He succeeded.

Seems like Lelouch wins there.

Venusaur♣
September 10th, 2009, 02:04 PM
I like both the shows, and I think both Light and Lelouch are both very smart. I think it would be a draw. :3

Yoshimi
September 11th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Light's plan was to be a God. He failed.

Lelouch's plan was to recreate the world and die. He succeeded.

Seems like Lelouch wins there.

However, he also did evil acts to replace the acts that he accidentally made the princess do.
He failed there, and had to alter his plan.
Light is a moron, arm flailing is a must when he is writing in the death note.

Azumi
September 14th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Thanks for posting!

*Wonders why L wasn't included*

...because L would pretty much pwn Light and Lelouch, and there wouldn't be anything to talk about if I included him? :/

Mukkamoto
September 14th, 2009, 03:49 AM
I haven't seen code geass, but after reading through this thread, it makes want to.
I absolutely loved Death Note & love Light until the departure of L of course.
I wouldn't say my vote would be justified since i don't know Lelouch.

Satoshi Ookami
September 14th, 2009, 08:11 AM
I haven't seen code geass, but after reading through this thread, it makes want to.
I absolutely loved Death Note & love Light until the departure of L of course.
I wouldn't say my vote would be justified since i don't know Lelouch.
Ya must see that :)
It's one of the best anime :)