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Haza
December 13th, 2009, 10:27 AM
I recall that when I first came to PC at the beginning of 08 that there was an Action Replay DS thread for Diamond and Pearl that was about 80+ pages long but suddenly got closed because a mod said it wasnt going anywhere. Since everytime someone has made a similar thread it has been closed. I think it would be a really good idea to have an official page for this that would have a large variety of codes for US games in the first post and people could even give out their Poke Sav codes there. Just an idea. SHut me down if its lame. Id even be willing to lead the thread.

TwilightBlade
December 13th, 2009, 10:34 AM
There are a large variety of codes elsewhere, found via google.

A majority of DPPt members do not appreciate receiving or battling hacks, so why facilitate such discussion here, ultimately producing more hacks when we want to reduce them?

Serene Grace
December 13th, 2009, 10:51 AM
There are a large variety of codes elsewhere, found via google.

A majority of DPPt members do not appreciate receiving or battling hacks, so why facilitate such discussion here, ultimately producing more hacks when we want to reduce them?
I don't think that the use of Action Replay should be shunned so much. Sure, the majority of people don't use the AR but, the fact is, there are some who do use it. It might not even be for online cheating pruposes, it could just to be to see some cool effects that happen when you use it.

This doesn't mean that the majority wins and the minority should be shunned. Members who do not approve of using the AR while communicating with them always make sure the add the warning in their threads. It's up to the AR user if he/she wants to break that rule and risk banning. As with most things, it's not about actually using it, it's how you use it.

Haza
December 13th, 2009, 10:52 AM
Either way you wont be able to stop people from using them and there are more codes that are helpful than just pokemon themselves. I just think it would be great to have a one stop place here on PC.

.little monster
December 13th, 2009, 02:45 PM
I believe there should be a thread.

:/ There's an entire section on ROM hacking, what is the difference between that and using an action replay? Either allow an action replay thread or delete the emulation section. D:

sasuneuchiha
December 13th, 2009, 02:52 PM
I understand the point in this and agree, one is probably a good idea...still, I can see why there isn't.

processr
December 13th, 2009, 02:54 PM
:/ There's an entire section on ROM hacking, what is the difference between that and using an action replay? Either allow an action replay thread or delete the emulation section. D:

ROM hacking is a creative process, not inputting numbers into a device you plug into your DS.

.little monster
December 13th, 2009, 02:59 PM
ROM hacking is a creative process, not inputting numbers into a device you plug into your DS.
Both are changing the data of a game.

Which is what *both* are meant to do. That's what their purpose is.

processr
December 13th, 2009, 03:02 PM
Both are changing the data of a game.

Which is what *both* are meant to do. That's what their purpose is.

That's like saying making a TV program and watching it are the same thing. ROM hacking is done for the sense of accomplishment when you complete a hack, Action Replay is done to temporarily make a game easier or generally mess about. There are so many differences that it's not even funny.

zevarius kerensky
December 13th, 2009, 04:42 PM
There are a large variety of codes elsewhere, found via google.

theres a hacker out there makein FAKE codes desgined 2 DESTROY ur game if u look 'em up on google, yt codes r more reliable, trust me (i found platnum codes there and my game works fine STILL)

Action Replay is done to temporarily make a game easier or generally mess about.

gota point there, i use it 2 EXACTLY do the same thing

@ creater of thread:

im willin 2 support u on this, its honestly a good idea

TheAppleFreak
December 13th, 2009, 05:17 PM
I personally am against the use of Action Replays, though I support this thread because there are in fact some practical uses of an Action Replay. For example, I hear that there is a Windows program designed to copy all of the save data of a Gen IV game into a AR code, which could be a failsafe for losing data if one loses his or her game or wishes to restart their game. Also, there are some other uses of AR codes that have no uses other than to make the game experience more enjoyable, like one that replaces the sprite of the player character into any of the sprites in the game (it's very amusing to see Giratina float around Jubilife City and talk to the various people in the city, who are apparently oblivious to the fact that a Pokémon heard only in legends is talking to them). Such codes are worth sharing, even if not everyone uses them.

Mr. Curling Iron
December 13th, 2009, 05:41 PM
That's like saying making a TV program and watching it are the same thing. ROM hacking is done for the sense of accomplishment when you complete a hack, Action Replay is done to temporarily make a game easier or generally mess about. There are so many differences that it's not even funny.

No, that analogy does not make sense.

Rom hacking is not making a TV program. Its editing a TV program. Using action replay is not watching it. Action replay is downloading the episode or watching it online because it has already been released in another country. Its watching it in an unconventional way. Rom hacking is also an unconventional way of creating an episode that suits yours, and a given audiences taste.

Action replay is no different to PokeSAV in terms of ripping people off. You manipulate game data to generate a pokemon and then you trade it for something legit.

At the same time, PokeSAV is easily accessible, and those that do want to use Action Replay and such for recreational purposes should not be punished by having to search for a 'legit' source of codes. The thread can be used to 'certify' certain codes and after most of them have been posted, it can be merely stickied and left there like the Post Your Problems thread in OC.

I'm going to stand on neutral ground because it can be abused, but there are also reasons why the information should be omitted from PC: A Pokemon Forum, not a legit-trading forum. Yeah, sorry guys, I doubt PC was made for trading.

.Seth
December 13th, 2009, 06:06 PM
I use AR codes myself, and have been wondering why discussion of such devices isn't allowed. I myself do not use them for WiFi battling, so called me biased, but I do support this idea. It's hard to find working cheats sometimes. And I guess if a cheat someone posts doesn't work, said post can just be deleted.

Vigilante
December 13th, 2009, 06:39 PM
theres a hacker out there makein FAKE codes desgined 2 DESTROY ur game if u look 'em up on google, yt codes r more reliable, trust me (i found platnum codes there and my game works fine STILL)


Uhm, where exactly do you think the majority of PC members would get the codes? Google.

I am not supporting this, however. It would lead to more cons than pros.

Melody
December 15th, 2009, 02:02 AM
I recall that when I first came to PC at the beginning of 08 that there was an Action Replay DS thread for Diamond and Pearl that was about 80+ pages long but suddenly got closed because a mod said it wasnt going anywhere. Since everytime someone has made a similar thread it has been closed. I think it would be a really good idea to have an official page for this that would have a large variety of codes for US games in the first post and people could even give out their Poke Sav codes there. Just an idea. SHut me down if its lame. Id even be willing to lead the thread.

You look to be close to 5k posts, you could just use your blog to create a place to share the codes. If you don't want to do that, go for creating a public social group and advertise it. It's not hard to do really.

Personally, I think the entire argument against AR and other cheat devices is stupid. It really doesn't harm game play that much. Personally, I never trade my hacks anyway...because it's rude. That being said, PokeSav when used correctly, can create perfectly Legitimate data...it's just a matter of figuring out how you want the stats to be, (within legit limits) and setting your junk bits, ect...to match what they SHOULD be.

Just think, Nintendo probably has some sort of code generator themselves which makes up these "Rare" pokemon...and Pokesav is no different from that, I promise you.

Still, with all of that being said, I do perfectly understand the wish to receive a pokemon someone worked for, the hard way, to obtain. Generally, I don't trade in event pokemon...it's smarter to keep them and use them to obtain something else you want. I personally don't care if a pokemon I'm trading for is legit or not, as long as it LOOKS perfectly legitimate when it comes to an event pokemon. That being said, I simply refuse to trade with just anybody unless I just want something so bad that I don't give a fig.

Haza
December 15th, 2009, 06:58 AM
^
If a thread is not approved, I may simply do this. I think its a really good Idea.

Shadow
December 15th, 2009, 07:13 PM
The problem with an Action Replay thread is the reason posted in the first post:

It doesn't go anywhere.

The thread starts off as a list of codes, but eventually, all the codes are posted. By page 5 there is nothing but "how u gt shinney charzard??!!?!?!?!" repeated over and over again. They end up being a monumental waste of space when there are already tons of other websites that list the codes.

There is no discussion with cheat codes after a while. That is the problem.

As said, if you want to list the codes, do it in a blog or make your own website. Another issue is people trying to take the credit for all the codes when they've mostly all been discovered before.

.Seth
December 15th, 2009, 07:21 PM
The problem with an Action Replay thread is the reason posted in the first post:

It doesn't go anywhere.

The thread starts off as a list of codes, but eventually, all the codes are posted. By page 5 there is nothing but "how u gt shinney charzard??!!?!?!?!" repeated over and over again. They end up being a monumental waste of space when there are already tons of other websites that list the codes.

There is no discussion with cheat codes after a while. That is the problem.

As said, if you want to list the codes, do it in a blog or make your own website. Another issue is people trying to take the credit for all the codes when they've mostly all been discovered before.
Well, why not make a thread for an index of ARDS codes, then once discussion has halted and there is nothing but questions, just lock and stick the thread in D/P/Pt?

I think that would work, since A) It'd stop discussion after a while, and B) It wouldn't get buried behind 34234 pages.

Also, if anyone had a code to add, they could just PM a moderator of that section.

Shadow
December 15th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Well, why not make a thread for an index of ARDS codes, then once discussion has halted and there is nothing but questions, just lock and stick the thread in D/P/Pt?

I think that would work, since A) It'd stop discussion after a while, and B) It wouldn't get buried behind 34234 pages.

Also, if anyone had a code to add, they could just PM a moderator of that section.

The problem with that is that it'd be a waste of space. You don't want to have ten stickies in a forum because A) it clutters the list of stickies and B) no one reads the stickies anyways.

PokéCommunity is not the all-in-one spot for every single bit of information on Pokémon. It is a place for discussion. It is not a place for a list of codes that would be copy/pasted from some other website to create the sticky. Other sticky threads are there to reduce clutter by grouping together or avoiding common questions.

.Seth
December 15th, 2009, 07:42 PM
The problem with that is that it'd be a waste of space. You don't want to have ten stickies in a forum because A) it clutters the list of stickies and B) no one reads the stickies anyways.

PokéCommunity is not the all-in-one spot for every single bit of information on Pokémon. It is a place for discussion. It is not a place for a list of codes that would be copy/pasted from some other website to create the sticky. Other sticky threads are there to reduce clutter by grouping together or avoiding common questions.

You forget that Serebii and Bulbagarden both do not have ARDS codes. And aren't they pretty much the all-in-one spot(s) for Pokemon?

I can also see users submitting cheats codes and people posting saying they don't work/etc as discussion. Discussion will deteriorate over time, but you forget that there are people who make ARDS codes from scratch. That also creates discussion because new ARDS codes are made.

And if there's that many stickies for one generation of Pokemon games, why not combine a couple? Unless all of them are completely unrelated, of course, but I doubt it.

Also, if there were an ARDS sticky thread, wouldn't that cut down the clutter of "how dus ah get teh shinyz charizardzz??? i no i need a ards thang, but.."? And what do you mean "Other" sticky threads? Are there different types?

Shadow
December 15th, 2009, 08:33 PM
You forget that Serebii and Bulbagarden both do not have ARDS codes. And aren't they pretty much the all-in-one spot(s) for Pokemon?

What's your point here? I said PC was not the all-in-one site for Pokémon, which is why we don't need the codes and then you say the all-in-one sites don't have the codes. We aren't an all-in-one site, so we definitely don't need what the all-in-one sites don't feel the need to post.

I can also see users submitting cheats codes and people posting saying they don't work/etc as discussion. Discussion will deteriorate over time, but you forget that there are people who make ARDS codes from scratch. That also creates discussion because new ARDS codes are made.

As was said in the original post, there was an Action Replay thread but it was eventually locked due to it "going nowhere."

The time for "creating" codes is over and done with by the time the games are on the shelves. Not to mention, there are various sites with the purpose of such things; such discussions would be better to stay there given the average PC member, honestly.

And if there's that many stickies for one generation of Pokemon games, why not combine a couple? Unless all of them are completely unrelated, of course, but I doubt it.

That is already done. The thing is, you don't want more than 1-4 stickies per forum. There is already enough and similar things are already cut down as much as possible.

Also, if there were an ARDS sticky thread, wouldn't that cut down the clutter of "how dus ah get teh shinyz charizardzz??? i no i need a ards thang, but.."? And what do you mean "Other" sticky threads? Are there different types?

Other sticky threads are the sticky threads that are already there. Simple Question (or Quick Question and Answer as it is now) is already supposed to eliminate "how i get teh shinny muutoos?!?"

Does it? Not completely. A stickied archive of Action Replay codes would do no better. People would still make threads to ask how to copy/paste simple codes into their Action Replay.

Melody
December 15th, 2009, 09:55 PM
This is why I suggested running a Social Group or a Blog of codes posted up. People would just go to the blog or social group to ask for codes, and we could probably moderate it a lot easier without asking for a thread.

My only other idea is creating a subforum specifically for cheat codes, and appointing several moderators for that. We might as well, since it'd cut back on the spam by giving people a place to post about them, discuss them, and request them.

It's true that one thread is likely to generate spam, but what if we allowed certain trustworthy members to start up their own code shops? We could create an entire subforum, moderate it so that new posts are approved by the mods and it wouldn't be full of spam.

I could easily see a few shops being opened within a subforum with some obvious rules like:


No creating forged event pokemon
All pokesav generated pokemon codes posted on PC must have SOME indication that it was PokeSav Generated like a certain ID number. for example 12345, 11111, 00000, or any other attribute the mods agree on
You cannot trade the generated pokemon to anyone who isn't aware that it is hacked. All trading of hacked pokemon must be arranged privately.
You must have xxx Posts and no infractions or warnings for trading in hacked pokemon, in order to be considered for being allowed to run a code shop.
You must post requests in the designated sticky thread for requests or an approved shop thread.
You code shop thread must meet certain requirements (format template anyone?), as set forth by the selected moderators of the section and other staff members.


Personally, I think that with the appropriate rules and moderation in place, we could think about allowing AR codes to be posted here. I personally don't think it's fair to people who don't mind hacked pokemon so much to not be allowed to get them somehow, but I also think it's not fair for the people who don't like hacks, to not be able to tell if something is hacked. That being said, as long as we keep a handle on what sort of codes we allow to be posted, there should be no problem.

Åzurε
December 15th, 2009, 10:24 PM
I support this one-hundred-percent. It seems incredible to me that a forum with an active ROM hacking area wouldn't allow Action Replay.

Google is a valid point. Most codes will likely come off Google. But, if we begin allowing Action Replay threads, eventually Pokemon specialists could wheedle their way in here and we could come up with something new. Perhaps we even have some users like this already...

With Heart Gold and Soul Silver coming up, some of us could work on opening up some new avenues in that realm, and if nothing else it could be a good compilation of useful codes, even with restrictions on the type of code. I suggest a either a new section or a subsection of General Games, or Hacking, with a compilation thread and a Q&A thread.

Some of the on-site trade setups and battles could get dependent on a person's honesty, though. I personally would alert others before going on Wi-Fi, but I'm not everyone... Extra moderation is more than likely a good idea.

Melody
December 16th, 2009, 01:58 PM
I happen to agree. It doesn't seem quite fair that we allow ROM hacking, and not AR codes.

In Pre-battle, honestly the opponent's team can be 'checked' by going into trade mode via wifi, and scoping the opponent's team out. Then straight to battle, no changes to your team allowed. This isn't a hard thing to do really, and it keeps n00bs from slipping in that Lv100 Shiny Arceus with perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31 IVs and 999/999/999/999/999/999 stats to steamroll your team with.

As far as trading goes, as long as no one successfully manages to to pass off codes that produce a perfectly legitimate looking pokemon, then the code forum would indeed be well moderated.

In all honesty, I've seen legal pokemon built with pokesav, Pokemon with perfectly legal movesets, stats, randomized IVs, nice and legal EV spreads, with a supporting nature. You really only have to look up the legal 'limits' for each pokemon and build to those parameters.

It's all a matter of defining what a 'Legal ____ hack' (blank optional) is. There are actually legality checkers for *.pkmn files which ensures that they aren't unbelievable and unfair.

Shadow
December 16th, 2009, 08:56 PM
I happen to agree. It doesn't seem quite fair that we allow ROM hacking, and not AR codes.

ROM hacking is not the same as AR.

You use an AR to cheat. You hack ROMs to make a new game.

ROM hack Pokémon cannot be used on Wi-Fi or anything else. AR ones can.

AR is finding single line codes to input to the game's RAM and alter something happening now. ROM hacking is changing the internal game data of the game into something different, permanently. ROM hacking allows the change of maps, scripts, text, music, and almost every bit of data in the game; AR does not.

AR codes eventually are all found and there's nothing more to do but use them. ROM hacks are near-infinite as everyone has different ideas and creations. Saying AR and ROM hacks are the same thing is like saying tracing and other artwork is the same.

Spinor
December 16th, 2009, 09:05 PM
Let me end this foolish suffering


Sticky: Looking for AR Codes?

Post: There are new awesome things that help you out. They are Google and PokeSav.

Use PokeSav to cheat your game! If you can't figure it out on PokeSav then use Google! Its that simple!


</fools>

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 16th, 2009, 09:44 PM
Honestly in this case, you might as well create a single thread that links to resources that people need - game codes, FAQs, etc. We're not an all-on-one stop, but we might as well help those who need it, discussion forum or not.

Also, another thing: those comparing ROM hacking to game codes lose the point. Technically it is editing a ROM, but the uses at PC are typically are for creative purposes - often, creating "new" games. Apophenia was on the mark. (And with that, can we stop debating it? It's actually quite irrelevant to the thread.)

Haza
December 16th, 2009, 09:55 PM
You cant find all codes on one site and thats the point. Its inconvenient when you're trying to make things more convenient.

Josephine
December 17th, 2009, 05:32 AM
This thread baffles me, in one reply somebody tell me why there can't be a simple thread for code submission.

Spinor
December 17th, 2009, 01:01 PM
This thread baffles me, in one reply somebody tell me why there can't be a simple thread for code submission.

I'll give many reasons in one reply indeed.


Many people don't like game hackers
The threads really DON'T get anywhere after a while
A big list of codes gets disorganized
A very big list of codes can take hundreds of Kilobytes and even the Megabytes range
Staff simply doesn't give about this stuff when Member X is flaming Member Y while Member Z is spamming in OC
We have GOOGLE
We have POKESAV
90% of posters will be under 10 asking for a code to get Shiny Arceus then how to even use the damn AR.
And if the poor tards can't use Google then they probably don't deserve the codes


Besides, AR Hacking and ROM Hacking are two completely different methods. AR Hacking edits SAVE FILES of the games. ROM Hacking edits the FUNCTIONS and DATA of the game. This explains why you can't make trees purple with your AR.

Haza
December 17th, 2009, 01:58 PM
Every thread eventually ends up going no where or gets abandoned after a while unless its stickied.

Josephine
December 17th, 2009, 04:50 PM
I'll give many reasons in one reply indeed.

Many people don't like game hackers
The threads really DON'T get anywhere after a while
A big list of codes gets disorganized
A very big list of codes can take hundreds of Kilobytes and even the Megabytes range
Staff simply doesn't give about this stuff when Member X is flaming Member Y while Member Z is spamming in OC
We have GOOGLE
We have POKESAV
90% of posters will be under 10 asking for a code to get Shiny Arceus then how to even use the damn AR.
And if the poor tards can't use Google then they probably don't deserve the codes


Besides, AR Hacking and ROM Hacking are two completely different methods. AR Hacking edits SAVE FILES of the games. ROM Hacking edits the FUNCTIONS and DATA of the game. This explains why you can't make trees purple with your AR.I don't see any of those as a problem. :|



Many people don't like people who AR? Many people don't like rom hackers.
If it dies then it dies, big whoop?
Does it need organisation? People can just look through, or in-fact search.
The server has more than enough space. o.o'
I don't see what spamming in OC has to do with this, correct me if I've misread.
Google you can't submit codes.
Pokesav I'm guessing only edits saves.
Who cares? The same thing happens in every section of the forum.
You don't have to reply, not that it's a terrible effort to do so.
Again, you're forgetting the code makers.

And I've seen that all throughout this thread, people are completely ignoring the fact that someone has to make these codes in the first place.
I've made plenty of cheats for R/S/E that I haven't seen anywhere else on the web so don't you go saying that there's none to submit.

processr
December 17th, 2009, 11:15 PM
Pokesav I'm guessing only edits saves.

Not quite, but it does have a function that allows one to create codes (IIRC - someone correct me if I'm wrong) that edit things in the save, as opposed to creating a whole new save file. So you could, say, make a code that gives you 99 of your first item. This could then be posted in this proposed code thread, and others can use it. So yeah, Pokesav can actually support the case for a thread. *shrug*

Josephine
December 22nd, 2009, 07:08 AM
Can we get some sort of conclusion on this?

THIRTY-SIX
December 22nd, 2009, 07:46 AM
My guess is that the trade area may become filled with action reply pokemon, alot of members don't like those. Also the list will be boring to maintain.

*Firestar*
December 22nd, 2009, 11:32 AM
I use action replay, and yes, I look up codes a lot. Most of the time I find what I need (English version) right away, but changed, so I look a bit more and find what I need. There really is no need for this thread even though I am not against AR. You can find what you need over the internet, and if you can't find it on other sites, what's to say you'll definitely find it here? It may not even exist. And just so you know, I don't plan to use hacked Pokemon EVER on Wi-Fi. So, as you can see, there really is no need for this thread.

Mew~
December 22nd, 2009, 11:36 AM
Well, i think this would be a great idea... i use action replay codes (only when ive completed games) so i would sure help out with the thread... I can see the thread going somewhere if you ask me... and if it doesnt, so what?

I would like to see an action replay code thread :)

Couldnt we like vote it or somthing? or wont the mods let us?

PokemonLeagueChamp
December 22nd, 2009, 01:34 PM
Honestly in this case, you might as well create a single thread that links to resources that people need - game codes, FAQs, etc. We're not an all-on-one stop, but we might as well help those who need it, discussion forum or not.

Also, another thing: those comparing ROM hacking to game codes lose the point. Technically it is editing a ROM, but the uses at PC are typically are for creative purposes - often, creating "new" games. Apophenia was on the mark. (And with that, can we stop debating it? It's actually quite irrelevant to the thread.)

I'm thinking a stickied thread that has codes confirmed to work.

The real difference between AR and ROMs? ROMs are technically ILLEGAL. AR is simply considered "improper, nooby method of obtaining strong Pokemon". Notice the important difference?

øbliteration
December 23rd, 2009, 12:33 PM
AR and ROMs are so different. sorry. NOT the same thing. The Emulation section, like it or not, is the most active place here on PC.

Anyway...

A single sticky in DPPt, HG/SS, etc., that consists of Action Replay codes is something I'd like to see. Not a whole section, but a thread in every section. Doesn't clutter anything up (isn't the whole point of a forum conversation? cluttering up a forum doesn't make sense to me) and would be pretty darn useful.

Team Fail
December 23rd, 2009, 03:48 PM
I don't think that the use of Action Replay should be shunned so much. Sure, the majority of people don't use the AR but, the fact is, there are some who do use it. It might not even be for online cheating pruposes, it could just to be to see some cool effects that happen when you use it.

This doesn't mean that the majority wins and the minority should be shunned. Members who do not approve of using the AR while communicating with them always make sure the add the warning in their threads. It's up to the AR user if he/she wants to break that rule and risk banning. As with most things, it's not about actually using it, it's how you use it.

I agree completely. I use codes to clone Pokemon on my Platinum, and use the music modifier to play with the music. None of these codes have to do with the story itself. In my Pearl, I use camera codes to look around and see the game from a different perspective. Yet, it doesn't affect the game in any way.

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 23rd, 2009, 03:48 PM
I forgot to mention something: it isn't ruled out on PC. Someone start one: if a mod closes it, they're stupid. If members cry foul, screw what they think. (Just don't break any rules in doing so.)

Haza
December 26th, 2009, 01:02 PM
Oh really? Thank you but before I do so, what would the appropriate thread section be?

Mew~
December 26th, 2009, 01:16 PM
Oh really? Thank you but before I do so, what would the appropriate thread section be?
Depends what game.... i guess maybe... an action replay thread for the dppt thread and hg/ss thread? But i cant be suuurrreee but i think anthony la is being sarcastic....

Haza
December 26th, 2009, 07:27 PM
Lol, I totally did not notice the sarcasm... sucks (and I never claimed to be the sharpest)

usami
December 26th, 2009, 07:52 PM
He wasn't being sarcastic. I'd say General Pokemon Gaming.

Alli
December 26th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Yeah, I agree with above. How about an all game AR/GS thread? There's one that I mod over, but it's a shop. It's so old that I don't really think anyone even bothers to use it, to be honest. And I hate redirecting people to that thread when it's so...well, I don't know what to call it. It's labeled as a shop where the thread maker made codes...I don't know. But yeah, I'm in favor for an all game AR/GS shop. I'm sick of those "i ned codes!111" threads.

Haza
December 26th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Okay, I will be doingone in Pokemon Gaming General for All Games, but the bulk of them will be for DS games.

Destinyfate
December 27th, 2009, 10:03 AM
yup definatly pokemon general gaming