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Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 03:24 PM
Okay I hope this gets taken seriously despite the attention-grabbing title..

Anyways.. there has been like crazy crazy amounts of like.. multiple blog posts lately.. like I mean.. the same people will post a pointless blog like 3, 4, 5, 6 times a day... it's kinda ridiculous cause like.. hey.. maybe I wanna actually check back and see what people said on some other blogs that I just read maybe like 3 hours ago, but the thing is all flooded now.

And I don't wanna put those other people on my ignore list cause they're cool, and they have some good stuff to say sometimes.

But seriously..
Can like maybe there be like a 3-blog per 24 hour limit or something? Or 2-blog per 24 hour limit? Cause like.. seriously.. it's just getting just ridiculous.. like.. I know people can't spam on the boards.. but really? Really.

Yeah feedback maybe? What do you guys think? Am I crazy for getting frustrated at all the attentiongrubbers?

mystletainn
December 23rd, 2009, 03:32 PM
I totally agree. We don't need to know every funny little aspect of your WLM conversation or what your hair's been doing throughout the day with a minute-by-minute update.

Zet
December 23rd, 2009, 03:37 PM
protip: You don't have to read blogs


Take the tip and you'll be happy d('-'d)

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 23rd, 2009, 03:44 PM
Somehow I'm inclined to say "welcome to the internets" mostly because… they're blogs. Why favour restricting people?

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 03:50 PM
protip: You don't have to read blogs


Take the tip and you'll be happy d('-'d)

Protip: Mods in my day weren't douches who're just around to try and look cool.

Take the tip and be worth a damn as a mod d('-'d)


Anthony: They can put restrictions on Tiers so people have to donate more, methinks!

Or I can allout like.. crazy mega flood the blogs like every minute of every day and technically I'm not breaking any rules so I can kinda in a way annoy the heck out of people and not get into trouble for it.
Technically.

Technically.

Cause I'm not popular, people are gonna like.. crazy complain about it.. cause their blogs will go to like the 5th page like 10 minutes after they post it.

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 23rd, 2009, 03:59 PM
Probably not the way one should try and get more money. Maybe so that you can see the blog posts relevant to you, why not follow the relevant tags? Or, somehow we should implement some "follow" system of sorts.

Though you bring an interesting point there: you could SPAM with posts and still not get in trouble. That doesn't mean you should, but meh well.

Zet
December 23rd, 2009, 04:02 PM
Actually in your day lots of people were douches, you know, Anthony La knows it, we all know.

But I don't think anyone would care if you spammed their blog entries, it would just be another comment to them, another reason to blog more

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 04:27 PM
Actually in your day lots of people were douches, you know, Anthony La knows it, we all know.

But I don't think anyone would care if you spammed their blog entries, it would just be another comment to them, another reason to blog more

I didn't say anything about spamming their blog entries, I'm talking about spamming the general blogging page with countless blogs with details entailing very amazing things such as the word "Ninja Turtles" and nothing else, to innovative sentences involving the way my fork is placed ever so gently upon the side of my plate. And then after every blog I write, I shall write another blog with a very detailed WORD of how I got to the previous blog.


GITRDUN.

Or something.





Either way, I'm just bringing it up. Hence the word "Suggestion" in the title.

.Seth
December 23rd, 2009, 04:36 PM
I agree. I'm rather sick of nothing but random WLM conversations. I've posted a few myself, but not one every other day. At least Mario The World Champion's blogs have some point, and tell of his life, instead of just a record of who said this, i lol'd, and other random things.

Lie Ren
December 23rd, 2009, 04:36 PM
I'm one of the people that don't see the point in posting a blog every 5 minutes, but some people chose to do that on regular blog sites, so they should be allowed to do the same on PC.

If I'm in a mood where I find someone's constant blogging annoying, then I don't read them.. >_>; My only real complaint is sometmes people make important blogs that they want people to read, and then they kicked off the home in 3 minutes by a blog post about someone's MSN convo, but that's life PC. xD

So yeah.. Supporters pay for blogs, and they should be able to post in them whenever they want, to be fair. :/

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 23rd, 2009, 04:43 PM
Reminder: only supporters, ex-staff and members with posts over 5000 can actually use blogs. When you think of their high post count, though…

Lest we forget, they are massive attention freaks.

Dukey
December 23rd, 2009, 04:47 PM
I'm going to have to agree here, the amount of blogging done by some has gotten completely out of hand, I'm all for a restriction.

.inLOVE
December 23rd, 2009, 05:25 PM
Like Drew said, supporters paid for blogs. Not for "limited restriction blogs". Blogs. If you don't like it, ignore it. No big deal. Blogs don't make up PC.

Chibi-chan
December 23rd, 2009, 05:31 PM
People who post multiple blog posts a day are obnoxious. They know it. Everyone else knows it. Putting a limit won't stop them. Random WLM conversations are very stupid...seeing they're aimed at the people who were already IN the conversation to begin with....

But limiting them doesn't really stop them from happening. Hey, some of them paid to have a blog. They can post when they want what they want. Just subscribe to the people you'll read or something. Some people just blog for count because they just want to be in the top/recent lists...like people who just post for postcount. I'm not bothered by it at all really; THEY PAID FOR IT. Let them eat cake.

.Seth
December 23rd, 2009, 05:39 PM
[S-HIGHLIGHT][/S-HIGHLIGHT]Like Drew said, supporters paid for blogs. Not for "limited restriction blogs". Blogs. If you don't like it, ignore it. No big deal. Blogs don't make up PC.

While they may have paid money for something, that doesn't give them the right to post useless things. Also, nothing changes for the better if we just ignore all of our problems.

Chibi-chan
December 23rd, 2009, 05:43 PM
[S-HIGHLIGHT][/S-HIGHLIGHT]

While they may have paid money for something, that doesn't give them the right to post useless things. Also, nothing changes for the better if we just ignore all of our problems.

You are not obliged to read these pointless things.
Just like you don't have to read or agree with everyone's posts on PC.

Tyrantrum
December 23rd, 2009, 06:07 PM
Well, this is an alright idea, but couldn't you always just go to that person's profile, go to their blog tab, and then view the blog you were looking for? D;

I mean, it's not that hard.

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 06:40 PM
Well, this is an alright idea, but couldn't you always just go to that person's profile, go to their blog tab, and then view the blog you were looking for? D;

I mean, it's not that hard.

When you're old like me, you start forgetting peoples usernames you've only seen like 3-4 times.


Thing is.. I don't read them.. :/ It's like.. you know when you're like "Oh snap, where was that blog again" and it's been like.. one day.. so you click that little "find more" link at the bottom.. and you're not reading through the crap.. but you're just like.. scrolling down.. and down.. and next page.. and next page..

I dunno it's just kinda ridiculous.. can't you guys make it so that if someone's blog is like.. more than once on one page, it becomes like a merged post thing? And then when you go to their profile it recollapses onto their regular page.. that way like.. also when their other blog gets knocked back from the main page, you still see the new update.. but like.. otherwise it's like a merged post.

I dunno.. A lot of people seem to be agreeing too and I just thought it'd be a good idea. I just think it's weird that a place that has such strict rules is like.. .. people are going buckwild and topless over this blog thing cause they're like having almost no restrictions.

PARTY OVER AT BLOG STATION!


Edit: ALSO. People don't PAY to have a blog. It's called a DONATION. Just because it happened to come with perks really honestly doesn't mean anything. :/ People should pay their $20 for an actual site if they want all the editing uncensored blogging power that they desire.

Zet
December 23rd, 2009, 06:41 PM
[S-HIGHLIGHT][/S-HIGHLIGHT]

While they may have paid money for something, that doesn't give them the right to post useless things. Also, nothing changes for the better if we just ignore all of our problems.

You're one to talk, you blog your convos with Shiro

.little monster
December 23rd, 2009, 06:54 PM
I completely agree. Blogs..should be blogs. They should not be just one sentence, or one sentence and a video. D:

And if you're going to type 5 mini-blogs a day, go to Twitter/Facebook/Myspace/Who cares. Don't do it here. Have some context. Don't just post to say, "OH PRETTY VIDEO!"

This is why I don't read the blogs. Limit = good

ShinjisLover
December 23rd, 2009, 07:08 PM
People who post multiple blog posts a day are obnoxious. They know it. Everyone else knows it. Putting a limit won't stop them. Random WLM conversations are very stupid...seeing they're aimed at the people who were already IN the conversation to begin with....

But limiting them doesn't really stop them from happening. Hey, some of them paid to have a blog. They can post when they want what they want. Just subscribe to the people you'll read or something. Some people just blog for count because they just want to be in the top/recent lists...like people who just post for postcount. I'm not bothered by it at all really; THEY PAID FOR IT. Let them eat cake.

You took the words right outta my mouth. Especially with the first paragraph. ><

However, I do think that people who continuously post blgs are really, really annoying. Especially when someone posts something important and then gets kicked off. But instead of a limit of 3 per day, why not 5?

Of course, like I said, I agree that people donated for blogs and not a restricted number either. . I'm kinda on the fence about this, really.

Perhaps Tier 1 and 2 Supporters have a limited amount of blogs and the rest don't? =/ Or something. . XD

Shadow
December 23rd, 2009, 07:18 PM
If not a limit based on time or amount of blog posts, may I suggest that a limit is imposed on the overall quality?

Much like the limits to posts that require a certain number of words or characters. There can also be other rules that say a blog has to be more than a copy/pasted article or conversation. Require that a blog have at least one paragraph of material typed by the user or something similar.

And for the "people paid for the blog, they should be able to do anything they want" argument... People pay for cars (and pay quite a bit), yet there are plenty of restrictions in how they can use them. To be honest, people shouldn't be paying just to get the blog. They are donating to PC and getting the blog as a bonus (like a free tote bag). Some people even have blogs without paying (and honestly, they're also likely to have the spammy blogs thanks to their post counts).

flight
December 23rd, 2009, 07:27 PM
Um Kura, I'm sure it's been mentioned here multiple times for a few posts, but you could always ignore them. As Chibi said, you are not required to read blogs. There's honestly no point in restricting something that people(yes, they did) paid for. Hence is what the Tier 2 supporter benefit is about.


But this is my input on the situation. Really, blogs are just...blogs and nothing more. Do you think that blogs really make up all of PC? ._.

@above post: Friendly reminder that this is the internet. ^^;

Archer
December 23rd, 2009, 07:29 PM
Of course, like I said, I agree that people donated for blogs and not a restricted number either. . I'm kinda on the fence about this, really.

Perhaps Tier 1 and 2 Supporters have a limited amount of blogs and the rest don't? =/ Or something. . XD

Um, you do realise that most of the people who spam the blogs are Tier 5 CSs, anyway... don't you? So it wouldn't help much.

Maybe multiple "first-page blogs" by the same person should be bundled together, so they take up minimal space. Or only the most recent blog entry by each person has its own notification. That could work, without throwing around stupid restrictions and taking away what people already have; it fixes the core problem - people are bumped off the front page by multiple spam micro-blogs by the same user. So just make sure they don't get knocked off as easily.

Dukey
December 23rd, 2009, 07:33 PM
To all the people saying 'You don't have to read them?'
Well what if we feel like reading something slightly meaningfull about a person?
But instead we just get bombarded by crap that nobody cares about.

øbliteration
December 23rd, 2009, 07:39 PM
It's their blog, their account. Why is it your problem? Ya don't have to read every blog post. I paid for two things: to support, and to have a blog. I'll post as many pointless posts as I want.


^ 0 blogs are about meaningful stuff. Go somewhere else if you want to read meaningful stuff.

flight
December 23rd, 2009, 07:39 PM
To all the people saying 'You don't have to read them?'
Well what if we feel like reading something slightly meaningfull about a person?
But instead we just get bombarded by crap that nobody cares about.


How do you know that nobody cares about it? It may be just you.

Dukey
December 23rd, 2009, 07:45 PM
How do you know that nobody cares about it? It may be just you.

Besides the people that where in that conversation? Who just experienced that exact thing?

I'm not quite sure, besides, not saying stop blogging msn conversations all together, but why not have a blog once or twice saying the stuff that would've usually have gone into about 5 different blogs?

øbliteration
December 23rd, 2009, 07:47 PM
The internet consists of boundless space. Why do we have to condense blogs so some people don't have to click multiple buttons?

jigglyppuff8
December 23rd, 2009, 07:48 PM
http://www.pokecommunity.com/blog.php?b=5628

Read the comments. My feelings on the subject.


Also, the majority of PC don't care about blogs. At all.

flight
December 23rd, 2009, 07:49 PM
Besides the people that where in that conversation? Who just experienced that exact thing?

I'm not quite sure, besides, not saying stop blogging msn conversations all together, but why not have a blog once or twice saying the stuff that would've usually have gone into about 5 different blogs?

But maybe they want to display it so that other PCers can "lol" at their convo(assuming they're even funny)?

I'm neutral here; so don't take this the wrong way. D: Just some things to think about.

Dukey
December 23rd, 2009, 07:51 PM
Can't we 'lol' a little less about the same stuff though?
Having to post every little thing that happens in group convos just doesn't make sence.

ShinjisLover
December 23rd, 2009, 08:05 PM
Um, you do realise that most of the people who spam the blogs are Tier 5 CSs, anyway... don't you? So it wouldn't help much.
Then maybe Tiers 1-5 have the restrictions but Staff members, ex-staff, and Tier 6 Supporters don't?

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 23rd, 2009, 08:05 PM
Y'know, I haven't checked whether the Ignore List works with blogs, but if it does then it'd probably be worth using on the regular offenders.

edit: And now I just did.

Guillermo
December 23rd, 2009, 09:32 PM
I think everyone in here (that can) has posted a meaningless blog at least once. Stop being hypocrites.

It's funny, because it's always the pointless blogs that get more comments, and yet here we all are wanting to restrict them. It's really not that hard going back a few pages, or, even like Naoi said, go to said persons profiles. And it's not an excuse to say, "when you're old like me you forget peoples names" because that's not a valid reason to want it restricted for everyone else.

Of course, this is just my opinion. I can't speak for anyone else.

Cykes
December 23rd, 2009, 09:51 PM
I'm all for this restriction. People posting multiple entries a day need to get a twitter.

I think everyone in here has posted a meaningless blog at least once. Stop being hypocrites.
Go ahead and back up that claim. It doesn't have very much relevance to this anyhow, as this is about multiple entries. It's hardly being a hypocrite.

There's honestly no point in restricting something that people(yes, they did) paid for. Hence is what the Tier 2 supporter benefit is about.
You aren't supposed to be paying for a blog; you're supporting PC. Blogs are a privilege, not a right. The administration have the right to add a restriction or remove them entirely if they want.

Guillermo
December 23rd, 2009, 09:56 PM
Go ahead and back up that claim. It doesn't have very much relevance to this anyhow, as this is about multiple entries. It's hardly being a hypocrite
It's hard to back up a claim when a lot of people delete their blogs after a few days, yeah? And you shouldn't turn around and tell people to stop posting pointless entries when you've done it yourself.

I'm all for a restriction, because I hardly ever blog anyway.

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 10:00 PM
Man I didn't expect this thread to like.. throw up on itself.. I offered a suggestion cause I personally felt like it was going crazy out of hand..

And... I honestly don't wanna ignore people who multiple blog post because not ALL of what they post is random stuff.. like.. I have respect for them too and I really enjoy when they post about something genuinely funny or something I can understand or relate to..
So like.. I dunno.. ignoring them just kinda wouldn't be fair.. cause then a lot of people who get annoyed by this would ignore them too and I just think it would be bias..


As for the "Don't read this"

It's honestly like.. "*scroll scroll ... eyes glance down*
It says.. 'Dead puppies.' ... (and that's it) ..

uh.. what?"

.. OH SHHHH-!! I ALREADY READ YOUR BLOG. FFFF!!!!!!!!"

It's kinda an exaggeration.. but yeah.. it's like.. OH MAN. I DIDN'T -MEAN- TO READ YOUR BLOG BUT MY EYES GLANCED OVER IT FOR TWO SECONDS AND I DID.


.. Yeah I dunno.. Obviously I'm just joking but yeah.. like.. a lot of this sorta blog post stuff is super twittery or whatever.. I don't really go on twitter (HAHA I WONDER WHY..) but that's what it seems like to me.

Man.. I failed at an attempt to make this post into a funny lighthearted one so people can stop barking about what's right or not..

Cause like.. I dunno.. this thread is mostly opinion based.. hence.. why it's a SUGGESTION!! WOOOO!!! <3

Yeah.


Edit: Regardless, Jake, you rock hard for helping out and checking out that ignore list thing for us anyways! I didn't really want to ignore anyone, like I said before.. but like.. for those people who do want to.. I'm glad that they have that option now at least.

Is it a separate ignore thingy for blogs and the rest of PC? or are they combined into your ignore list thingy?

Cykes
December 23rd, 2009, 10:06 PM
It's hard to back up a claim when a lot of people delete their blogs after a few days, yeah? And you shouldn't turn around and tell people to stop posting pointless entries when you've done it yourself.

I'm all for a restriction, because I hardly ever blog anyway.
Whether someone has posted a meaningless entry or not, we're against multiple entries. A restriction on meaningless entries would be a different restriction.

And thus, by your logic, with 'everyone has posted a meaningless entry', you're a hypocrite. :\

I concur with Kura on the ignoring factor. Wouldn't it also filter their posts in threads and such?

Guillermo
December 23rd, 2009, 10:11 PM
Whether someone has posted a meaningless entry or not, we're against multiple entries. A restriction on meaningless entries would be a different restriction.

And thus, by your logic, with 'everyone has posted a meaningless entry', you're a hypocrite. :\

I concur with Kura on the ignoring factor. Wouldn't it also filter their posts in threads and such?
I have posted meaningless entries, yeah. But I'm not going around yelling at people because they do. Therefore, no, I'm not.

Donnie
December 23rd, 2009, 10:13 PM
Okay, Kura isn't asking to abolish pointless blogs completely, it's just that some days blogs just get out of control with 5 or so blogs a day about something 'funny' that happened in MSN.

I mean, I've done it myself, I know that. And nothing is wrong with a useless blog entry, people paid for those blogs so they should be able to use it, but that's kind of like saying "People signed up for this forum so they should post as much as they want./Post visitor messages as much as they want." There has to be some sort of restriction. Don't take my quote the wrong way, I know that there isn't a limit to the amount of posts someone can make, I'm saying that they can't make 10 posts/VM's in 1 minute. Sorta like what Kura is asking. Supporters/Other people that meet the requirement can post as many blogs as they want, just not all at once, the 3 per day restriction seems totally reasonable. I'm all for it.

Guillermo
December 23rd, 2009, 10:18 PM
It's only a select few people that actually do post more than three blogs a day. Like I said, I'm for it.

flight
December 23rd, 2009, 10:22 PM
I'm all for this restriction. People posting multiple entries a day need to get a twitter.


Go ahead and back up that claim. It doesn't have very much relevance to this anyhow, as this is about multiple entries. It's hardly being a hypocrite.


You aren't supposed to be paying for a blog; you're supporting PC. Blogs are a privilege, not a right. The administration have the right to add a restriction or remove them entirely if they want.

You're telling me this. :| Of all people.

What you said would be more suitable to those who only paid to have a blog. Call it donation if you wish, but not everyone's intentions are as pure as most of us make it out to be.

Cykes
December 23rd, 2009, 10:23 PM
I have posted meaningless entries, yeah. But I'm not going around yelling at people because they do. Therefore, no, I'm not.
Looking in this thread, there's maybe about one or two people 'going around yelling at people' about this. This is hardly 'everyone who can post a blog'. A decent amount of people in the thread have posted a meaningless blog, however, they aren't criticizing anyone for it. Which even if they were, I don't think they need to be yelled at and called a hypocrite.

Personally, I think a one-a-day restriction should be in place... If they want to add something, or have a different 'story' to tell, they can always use the edit button. o3o

You're telling me this. :|

This would be more suitable to those who only paid to have a blog. Call it donation if you wish, but not everyone's intentions are as pure as most of us make it out to be.
Yep, a tier one is telling you this. Would my opinion change if I was a tier two? Nope. My supporter status should have no relevance to this.

I'm not saying everyone's intention is pure; but if the administration is to add a restriction on blogs, or remove them completely (which I don't see happening anytime soon), people shouldn't whine about paying money for the blog.

derozio
December 23rd, 2009, 10:24 PM
Well, this topic is gettin really interesting. xD;

Lemme take all the points into consideration:

There have been many meaningless blog entries lately and, according to Kura, its totally meaningless to post multiple meaningless blog entries in a single day. Well, I agree with Kura here. That is meaningless. These blog entries apparently are causing a lot of trouble to the regular blog visitors(or rather, readers). They find it totally irrelevant and irritating. Well, I'm not a regular blog reader and so I can't say much here. Still, I think that this thing can be stupid. D:

And now, let me take the other points into consideration. Well, the members have donated to become a supporter. They get blogs as a bonus. Right, I agree with this point too. Still, it seems to me that it will be kinda unfair to put a lot of restrictions on these people. Even though Blogs are a bonus, many may have paid just for their sake. D:

Thus, taking all of these points into consideration, I feel that there can be some restrictions. Like restrictions that limit the number of blogs they can make in a specific time period(as already suggested by some members like SL, I agree with ya guys! xD).

Well, that's my input.

Guillermo
December 23rd, 2009, 10:25 PM
You're telling me this. :|

This would be more suitable to those who only paid to have a blog. Call it donation if you wish, but not everyone's intentions are as pure as most of us make it out to be.
This.

Some people donated to PC because they wanted to give back to the community, but I can almost assure you that 99% of people that say that are lying to some degree. A lot of supporters didn't even donate themselves, either. If it weren't for the perks, PC wouldn't even have half the supporters it does now.

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 10:25 PM
Okay, Kura isn't asking to abolish pointless blogs completely, it's just that some days blogs just get out of control with 5 or so blogs a day about something 'funny' that happened in MSN.

I mean, I've done it myself, I know that. And nothing is wrong with a useless blog entry, people paid for those blogs so they should be able to use it, but that's kind of like saying "People signed up for this forum so they should post as much as they want./Post visitor messages as much as they want." There has to be some sort of restriction. Don't take my quote the wrong way, I know that there isn't a limit to the amount of posts someone can make, I'm saying that they can't make 10 posts/VM's in 1 minute. Sorta like what Kura is asking. Supporters/Other people that meet the requirement can post as many blogs as they want, just not all at once, the 3 per day restriction seems totally reasonable. I'm all for it.

Thanks man!
Yeah I thought 3 was pretty reasonable. Personally I'd like 2 per day/ 24 hours but I think that might be a bit unfair..

I always thought that if it was like.. they wanted to say it.. they could just wait a couple hours or simply edit their last blog entry if they end up going over the 3-day limit thingy..

Meh.. I dunno.. just like.. what I thought anyways..


EDIT: MAN THIS THREAD ISN'T HERE TO POINT FINGERS AT WHO HAS POSTED WHAT :/ IT'S ABOUT A SUGGESTION FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO LIKE.. YEAH. :/ If someone who posts like 30 blogs a day comes in here and says "No freaking way. I love me my blogs" well then that's their opinion, and this thread is here for a suggestion :/ so like.. yeah.. not to minimod or whatever but like.. seriously whether someone did that pointless blogging or not has nothing really to do with the suggestion given here to stop it or to keep it..

Edit2: I can be so crazy redundant sometimes..

beauty. proletariat
December 23rd, 2009, 10:28 PM
Okay, first thing I'm going to say to this thing is, stop the crap about more perks.

I know the people this rant is going to, and if you think putting a price on spamming is going to do anything to it: you are bloody wrong. Money flows continuously. Just because you don't have the Mod+ status, or the money (what, 10 dollars?) or the post count to blog and have fun blogging, doesn't mean we cant.

You know that you can bookmark pages, blog entries, you can subscribe to blogs for gods sakes! Three hours later you dont have to go down 9001 pages to see a bloody entry, at most it'll take one page: exaggerating the situation is a dumb thing to do, especially when the people that hang out at the 'blogging corner' actually know the situation. Not being a snake or anything lol but Kura, if you actually hang out there, you will see that the situation is far different to what you are describing. Was it 3 hours ago last week? Oh. Now it all makes sense. D:

Also, what right do you have to call us obnoxious for posting what happens in our daily lives? Let me look up the definition of a blog:


Definitions of blog on the Web:


read, write, or edit a shared on-line journal

Yeah, It's a journal. So if you dont like our journals, just stop reading it, place us on ignore list, and look at the posts that 'matter.'

Blogging has become more of a usergroup with 192 people in it in PC. Just like when you have massive MSN group convos, a small portion of it will be actively talking, the rest will be looking at it, ignoring it, or etcetera.

And if it is your 'good friends' that you are complaining for spamming, that says a lot about being 'friends' with you.

Dont you dare try to split a community just because of one or two inconveniences you feel for not being able to find a specific post. In blogs we talk about stuff that we like, find amusing, or affect our daily lives. The 'spammers,' in case you have not noticed, often get more than a page of comments per blog post.

Now I'm going to slowly respond to each "point" as I re-read this thread.

Why are you trying to put a limit in how often we blog. That is ridiculous. Why should we be wary of what we are posting and be like sheep being prodded into a fence.

If you dont want to know about our spelunking in MSN group convos, just ignore us. Put us on that list, end.

protip: You don't have to read blogs, end.

Yes, welcome to the internetz.

Anthony: They can put restrictions on Tiers so people have to donate more, methinks! PROTIPS: saying **** to one mod and then sucking upto an admin doesnt work, snake.

And then after every blog I write, I shall write another blog with a very detailed WORD of how I got to the previous blog. Yes, join us and become the very thing you want to prevent.

Seth that is just contradictory to your statement. Also, I'm sorry that we don't all like to rant our emotional instabilities over a pokemon forum on the pokemon forum blogs. Just saying.

My only real complaint is sometmes people make important blogs that they want people to read, and then they kicked off the home in 3 minutes by a blog post about someone's MSN convo, but that's life PC. xD we have blog subscriptions for the people that care about person x and tags do help.

So yeah.. Supporters pay for blogs, and they should be able to post in them whenever they want, to be fair. :/ yay

Like Drew said, supporters paid for blogs. Not for "limited restriction blogs". Blogs. If you don't like it, ignore it. No big deal. Blogs don't make up PC. Yes, Ignore it.

People who post multiple blog posts a day are obnoxious. They know it. Everyone else knows it. Putting a limit won't stop them. Random WLM conversations are very stupid...seeing they're aimed at the people who were already IN the conversation to begin with....

But limiting them doesn't really stop them from happening. Hey, some of them paid to have a blog. They can post when they want what they want. Just subscribe to the people you'll read or something. Some people just blog for count because they just want to be in the top/recent lists...like people who just post for postcount. I'm not bothered by it at all really; THEY PAID FOR IT. Let them eat cake. omg caek <333

While they may have paid money for something, that doesn't give them the right to post useless things. Also, nothing changes for the better if we just ignore all of our problems. Actually, it does. If I buy a computer, I have the right to fill it with junk or pictures of lulcatz. I can put whatever the hell I feel like in it, as long as it doesn't break any law. Its not breaking any law.

I dunno.. A lot of people seem to be agreeing too and I just thought it'd be a good idea. I just think it's weird that a place that has such strict rules is like.. .. people are going buckwild and topless over this blog thing cause they're like having almost no restrictions. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN.

PARTY OVER AT BLOG STATION! Yeah, blogs form a 'community.' Communities like to have social events.


ALSO. People don't PAY to have a blog. It's called a DONATION. Just because it happened to come with perks really honestly doesn't mean anything. :/ People should pay their $20 for an actual site if they want all the editing uncensored blogging power that they desire. Though I donated for supporting servers, some people donated because they wanted the perks. Others were paid for by their friends and such. Its human nature. Don't blame us.

I completely agree. Blogs..should be blogs. So do I. A journal. Freedom. End.

Perhaps Tier 1 and 2 Supporters have a limited amount of blogs and the rest don't? =/ Or something. . XD No what that's just oppression and more admin-suck up-ing

Much like the limits to posts that require a certain number of words or characters. There can also be other rules that say a blog has to be more than a copy/pasted article or conversation. Require that a blog have at least one paragraph of material typed by the user or something similar. I'll go over the definition again. It's a journal. Not an essay or a structured piece of English writing. Get over yourself.

And for the "people paid for the blog, they should be able to do anything they want" argument... People pay for cars (and pay quite a bit), yet there are plenty of restrictions in how they can use them. To be honest, people shouldn't be paying just to get the blog. They are donating to PC and getting the blog as a bonus (like a free tote bag). Some people even have blogs without paying (and honestly, they're also likely to have the spammy blogs thanks to their post counts). Scroll up a little and see my response to paid / donated crap.

Maybe multiple "first-page blogs" by the same person should be bundled together, so they take up minimal space. This can be implemented, it doesn't affect the bloggers.

To all the people saying 'You don't have to read them?' Well what if we feel like reading something slightly meaningfull about a person? But instead we just get bombarded by crap that nobody cares about. If no one cared about it, it wouldn't be there in the first place. If you feel like reading something meaningful, ask the person or go to a Teen Help forum. They have plenty of sad cases there.

Besides the people that where in that conversation? Who just experienced that exact thing? Often things happen in conversations that belong to a group. If some members of that group are not online, they can read it. Also, there are other people that read those conversations and find it amusing. Misheard Whisper <3

Having to post every little thing that happens in group convos just doesn't make sence. To you it doesn't. To others, the little things are entertaining.

Yay Willy <3

Go ahead and back up that claim. It doesn't have very much relevance to this anyhow, as this is about multiple entries. It's hardly being a hypocrite. I would, with Danica's blog posts, but often she deletes her blog posts, including the meaningful ones after being pressured both by her friends and other people to delete her blog entries. So, yeah, just be a part of the community, you will see.

You aren't supposed to be paying for a blog; you're supporting PC. Blogs are a privilege, not a right. The administration have the right to add a restriction or remove them entirely if they want. Some of us did. Also, scroll up a bit.

Thats it, now I'm going to go back to my screaming parents who are pissed that I donated so much time for you, snake. :D

øbliteration
December 23rd, 2009, 10:32 PM
Actually, it does. If I buy a computer, I have the right to fill it with junk or pictures of lulcatz. I can put whatever the hell I feel like in it, as long as it doesn't break any law. Its not breaking any law.

There you have it. Our blogs are our blogs. Don't tell us how to use them.
/thread.

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 10:40 PM
Okay, first thing I'm going to say to this thing is, stop the crap about more perks.

[...]

Thats it, now I'm going to go back to my screaming parents who are pissed that I donated so much time for you, snake. :D


Woooaahh woah woah there man.. calm down

Yeah.. Zet and I are friends.. like.. :/ I dunno why you're saying like sucking up and stuff cause like.. Jake and I go back yeeeaarrss.. so like.. woah..

You don't have to go on calling me a snake and stuff.. :/ Seriously.. and like.. my suggestion wasn't pointing fingers at anyone specific.. just what I have noticed. And hey! Maybe I'm not on PC every minute of every day or something but I'd still like to know what happened to that person who was having a problem and I'd have liked to know if any of my suggestions helped them out, you know?

:/ Like.. I guess I'm speaking as a casual user of this forum.. so I don't actually KNOW a lot of new members here and stuff so yeah.. I do get confused on who says what.. and to be honest.. I don't see why I would need to bookmark like 5 blogs every time I come here and want to make a comment :/

And no.. they aren't "good friends" and they aren't really even "friends" of mine the people who post a lot. I'm just saying that they're pretty cool people but like.. oh man there are times where I just don't know what is going on there in those entries.

So like.. I don't mean for you to be all taking offense or something.. I can see why you wouldn't like change because maybe you like to post a crazy amount, too..

:/ But at the same time.. don't like.. try to shove a knife down my throat just because I'm offering a suggestion to the community that I find is a problem.

And yeah, some people don't think it's a problem.. and some people do..

It's a suggestion for that very reason :/

flight
December 23rd, 2009, 10:46 PM
Looking in this thread, there's maybe about one or two people 'going around yelling at people' about this. This is hardly 'everyone who can post a blog'. A decent amount of people in the thread have posted a meaningless blog, however, they aren't criticizing anyone for it. Which even if they were, I don't think they need to be yelled at and called a hypocrite.

Personally, I think a one-a-day restriction should be in place... If they want to add something, or have a different 'story' to tell, they can always use the edit button. o3o


Yep, a tier one is telling you this. Would my opinion change if I was a tier two? Nope. My supporter status should have no relevance to this.

I'm not saying everyone's intention is pure; but if the administration is to add a restriction on blogs, or remove them completely (which I don't see happening anytime soon), people shouldn't whine about paying money for the blog.


If you actually read my post carefully(which apparently you didn't going by your response), I didn't mention your supporter status anywhere.

And what does the highers have to do with this? It's common knowledge that they can do what they want, why is that relevant?

And your last point doesn't make any sense. People complaining about paying money for blogs? Unless I'm misunderstanding, supportership isn't the only way to get a blog.

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 10:55 PM
Uh guys.. just to let you all know this whole like.. restrictions thing isn't probably gonna go through..

Wanna know why?


STAFF IS LAZY.

Yeah.. I know. I used to be one of them.. I know how it rolls.

*Winks at all those red-namers*
Haha no, I'm just kidding :3 I love you guys.

(Yeah but Christmastime IS here.. sooooo.. if it does happen it wont be for a while anyways.)

.Seth
December 23rd, 2009, 10:56 PM
@beaty. proletariat:

Okay, first thing I'm going to say to this thing is, stop the crap about more perks. Who mentioned more perks?

I know the people this rant is going to, and if you think putting a price on spamming is going to do anything to it: you are bloody wrong. Money flows continuously. Just because you don't have the Mod+ status, or the money (what, 10 dollars?) or the post count to blog and have fun blogging, doesn't mean we cant. Kura can blog. :/

You know that you can bookmark pages, blog entries, you can subscribe to blogs for gods sakes! Three hours later you dont have to go down 9001 pages to see a bloody entry, at most it'll take one page: exaggerating the situation is a dumb thing to do, especially when the people that hang out at the 'blogging corner' actually know the situation. Not being a snake or anything lol but Kura, if you actually hang out there, you will see that the situation is far different to what you are describing. Was it 3 hours ago last week? Oh. Now it all makes sense. D:
We only have so much space for bookmarks, and I don't want a lot of links to PC's blogs.

Also, what right do you have to call us obnoxious for posting what happens in our daily lives? Let me look up the definition of a blog:
Because you (not necessarily you yourself, but you know who I'm referring to) blog so much of things no one wants to look at.


Definitions of blog on the Web:


read, write, or edit a shared on-line journal

That's a rather poor definition. It can be a journal, yes. But, random MSN conversations aren't much of a "I did ___ today."

Yeah, It's a journal. So if you dont like our journals, just stop reading it, place us on ignore list, and look at the posts that 'matter.'
I might as well ignore PC, then. Since, we won't like everything every member says.

Blogging has become more of a usergroup with 192 people in it in PC. Just like when you have massive MSN group convos, a small portion of it will be actively talking, the rest will be looking at it, ignoring it, or etcetera.
Why are you posting it just so we can ignore it?

And if it is your 'good friends' that you are complaining for spamming, that says a lot about being 'friends' with you.
Who said his/her "friends" were complaining? It seems Kura thinks that it's a problem, not his/her friends. Also, you shouldn't insult someone for their friends.

Dont you dare try to split a community just because of one or two inconveniences you feel for not being able to find a specific post. In blogs we talk about stuff that we like, find amusing, or affect our daily lives. The 'spammers,' in case you have not noticed, often get more than a page of comments per blog post.
Splitting a community? Well, we're not segregating anyone. If simple flood control is too much for you, then I suggest you learn to deal with it if it's enforced, or just leave.

Why are you trying to put a limit in how often we blog. That is ridiculous. Why should we be wary of what we are posting and be like sheep being prodded into a fence.
We find it ridiculous that some members blog so much. Once again, the idea is flood control, not saying you can only post this or that. >_>

If you dont want to know about our spelunking in MSN group convos, just ignore us. Put us on that list, end.
If you don't want us to know about your MSN conversations, keep them to yourself.

protip: You don't have to read blogs, end.
You needn't remind us of common sense.

Yes, welcome to the internetz.
And if you can't deal with it, leave.

PROTIPS: saying **** to one mod and then sucking upto an admin doesnt work, snake. Well, technically, if a moderator annoys you, you should report to a higher-up.

Yes, join us and become the very thing you want to prevent. You need to learn what sarcasm is.

Seth that is just contradictory to your statement. Also, I'm sorry that we don't all like to rant our emotional instabilities over a pokemon forum on the pokemon forum blogs. Just saying. We're not all little kids. We're a forum, pokemon or not. And if I want to rant meaningfully, I will.

we have blog subscriptions for the people that care about person x and tags do help. They do, but what if we don't care about your every little blog?

Yes, Ignore it. And let all of your problems go unsolved.

Actually, it does. If I buy a computer, I have the right to fill it with junk or pictures of lulcatz. I can put whatever the hell I feel like in it, as long as it doesn't break any law. Its not breaking any law. You forget your computer isn't public, like blogs are.

PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN. You want easily editable screenshots? Alright.
Yeah, blogs form a 'community.' Communities like to have social events. Blogs form a portion of a community. A blog isn't a social event.


So do I. A journal. Freedom. End. Fine with me, but your random MSN conversations aren't "What I did today...".

I'll go over the definition again. It's a journal. Not an essay or a structured piece of English writing. Get over yourself. 50 or 100 characters isn't a structured piece of English writing.

If no one cared about it, it wouldn't be there in the first place. And that's why you shouldn't post random crap.

Often things happen in conversations that belong to a group. If some members of that group are not online, they can read it. Also, there are other people that read those conversations and find it amusing. Misheard Whisper <3 Then keep it private with your friends on Twitter.

To you it doesn't. To others, the little things are entertaining. And for most of the members who aren't in the conversation, they don't. And, that's only around 180,000 more people.

Cykes
December 23rd, 2009, 10:58 PM
If you actually read my post carefully(which apparently you didn't going by your response), I didn't mention your supporter status anywhere.
I got the vibe that's what the 'You're telling me this. :|' meant. My mistake.

And what does the highers have to do with this? It's common knowledge that they can do what they want, why is that relevant?

And your last point doesn't make any sense. People complaining about paying money for blogs? Unless I'm misunderstanding, supportership isn't the only way to get a blog.
No, but people are stating that they paid money to get a blog and that they should keep the benefits that they bought it for. The role that the higher ups play in this, is that if they do revoke or add something, I would bet good money there's going to be someone complaining that it's their right to have it. Thus, I thought I'd throw in the bit about the higher ups.

--
I'm really only posting my opinion here. I'm entitled to it, after all.

Guillermo
December 23rd, 2009, 11:08 PM
Looking in this thread, there's maybe about one or two people 'going around yelling at people' about this. This is hardly 'everyone who can post a blog'. A decent amount of people in the thread have posted a meaningless blog, however, they aren't criticizing anyone for it. Which even if they were, I don't think they need to be yelled at and called a hypocrite.
Yelled at? You've got me all wrong, dear. I merely said that everyone has, at some stage, posted a meaningless blog and to be honest, a lot of people here *are* being a hypocrite.

Everyone has different views and opinions on what a 'meaningless blog' is. Some people might find it funny, others might not. A lot of blogs are directed at certain people. You might not be one of those people. It doesn't make it meaningless. If someone blogs about anything, then that must mean something to them. It's not meaningless in their eyes, is it?

Cykes
December 23rd, 2009, 11:11 PM
Yelled at? You've got me all wrong, dear. I merely said that everyone has, at some stage, posted a meaningless blog and to be honest, a lot of people here *are* being a hypocrite.

Everyone has different views and opinions on what a 'meaningless blog' is. Some people might find it funny, others might not. A lot of blogs are directed at certain people. You might not be one of those people. It doesn't make it meaningless. If someone blogs about anything, then that must mean something to them. It's not meaningless in their eyes, is it?
I was just putting it as you put it.

Of course everyone has different views and opinions on this matter. I agree completely. I just personally don't see why they can't just put all this 'meaning' into one blog a day, or something to that extent.

derozio
December 23rd, 2009, 11:13 PM
Everyone has different views and opinions on what a 'meaningless blog' is. Some people might find it funny, others might not. A lot of blogs are directed at certain people. You might not be one of those people. It doesn't make it meaningless. If someone blogs about anything, then that must mean something to them. It's not meaningless in their eyes, is it?

This is ftw. xD;

Still, I think that there ain't any necessity for entries that consists of one or two words. And there's no necessity to make 10-15 entries just consisting of 'whatever they are doing at that specific period of time' in a single day! D:

I'm all in for some limitations.

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 11:16 PM
Juicy Fruit.. like.. no offense or anything but yeah! I agree that it can totally be meaningful in their eyes or to someone who understand what they're referring to.. but like I still think that going over 3 or 4 blog posts in the matter of like a few hours seems a little bit overboard to me, regardless of it's super meaningful and like a book.. or not..

:/ I suggested 3 per day cause I thought it would be a good balance.. soo.. I dunno why people are going super drama about it.. I thought it was really fair..
The flooding was bugging me a bit.. and sometimes people have more to say than other people.. so I don't wanna put a word limit on a blog, you know? But going overboard with multiple posts seemed a bit unnecessary to me :/

I'm not trying to deny people saying stuff in their blog.. I just think that separating it into many posts is getting kinda bothersome to me :/

Guillermo
December 23rd, 2009, 11:19 PM
Juicy Fruit.. like.. no offense or anything but yeah! I agree that it can totally be meaningful in their eyes or to someone who understand what they're referring to.. but like I still think that going over 3 or 4 blog posts in the matter of like a few hours seems a little bit overboard to me, regardless of it's super meaningful and like a book.. or not..

:/ I suggested 3 per day cause I thought it would be a good balance.. soo.. I dunno why people are going super drama about it.. I thought it was really fair..
No, I understand completely. I do agree with a limit, because a lot of blogs are just getting weird. Like a recent one that states it's nearly Christmas. Everyone knows it's nearly Christmas. And to be honest, four blogs in a few hours is over the top, yeah.

Let's not forget that if someone wishes to state something else, they can merely edit it into a previous blog they just posted.

beauty. proletariat
December 23rd, 2009, 11:41 PM
@SETH:

Okay, first thing I'm going to say to this thing is, stop the crap about more perks. Who mentioned more perks?

If you read the thread, you'd see that they are mentioning blogging being restricted as "perks" per group of supporter/

I know the people this rant is going to, and if you think putting a price on spamming is going to do anything to it: you are bloody wrong. Money flows continuously. Just because you don't have the Mod+ status, or the money (what, 10 dollars?) or the post count to blog and have fun blogging, doesn't mean we cant. Kura can blog. :/

Oh. You got me there.

You know that you can bookmark pages, blog entries, you can subscribe to blogs for gods sakes! Three hours later you dont have to go down 9001 pages to see a bloody entry, at most it'll take one page: exaggerating the situation is a dumb thing to do, especially when the people that hang out at the 'blogging corner' actually know the situation. Not being a snake or anything lol but Kura, if you actually hang out there, you will see that the situation is far different to what you are describing. Was it 3 hours ago last week? Oh. Now it all makes sense. D:
We only have so much space for bookmarks, and I don't want a lot of links to PC's blogs.

Subscription, also in bookmarks you can create folders. Get to know technology people.

Also, what right do you have to call us obnoxious for posting what happens in our daily lives? Let me look up the definition of a blog:
Because you (not necessarily you yourself, but you know who I'm referring to) blog so much of things no one wants to look at.

I want to look at them. So shut the crap about no one wanting to look at it. So do other people, again, shut the crap.

Definitions of blog on the Web:


read, write, or edit a shared on-line journal

That's a rather poor definition. It can be a journal, yes. But, random MSN conversations aren't much of a "I did ___ today."

You put whatever you want in your journal. leme say something to you, you have no bloody right in deciding what 'shapes' a personal writing. Writing is without form, you attach form as a means of pertaining to conventions.Yeah, It's a journal. So if you dont like our journals, just stop reading it, place us on ignore list, and look at the posts that 'matter.'
I might as well ignore PC, then. Since, we won't like everything every member says.

Do that. If you are going to pussy-foot with definitions and such, go ahead, though I doubt you, (yes, you in particular) will be able to leave for more than two days after making a useless blog about you leaving. Just saying.

Blogging has become more of a usergroup with 192 people in it in PC. Just like when you have massive MSN group convos, a small portion of it will be actively talking, the rest will be looking at it, ignoring it, or etcetera.
Why are you posting it just so we can ignore it?

As I said, there is a specific group that will read it, others that will ignore it.

And if it is your 'good friends' that you are complaining for spamming, that says a lot about being 'friends' with you.
Who said his/her "friends" were complaining? It seems Kura thinks that it's a problem, not his/her friends. Also, you shouldn't insult someone for their friends.

He/she complained about his/her friends also doing that. I'm not insulting his/her friends, I'm insulting his/her hypocrisy.

Dont you dare try to split a community just because of one or two inconveniences you feel for not being able to find a specific post. In blogs we talk about stuff that we like, find amusing, or affect our daily lives. The 'spammers,' in case you have not noticed, often get more than a page of comments per blog post.
Splitting a community? Well, we're not segregating anyone. If simple flood control is too much for you, then I suggest you learn to deal with it if it's enforced, or just leave.

Yeah you are splitting the community. Flood control has to be reasonable, not "Two blog entries a day. gtfo."

Why are you trying to put a limit in how often we blog. That is ridiculous. Why should we be wary of what we are posting and be like sheep being prodded into a fence.
We find it ridiculous that some members blog so much. Once again, the idea is flood control, not saying you can only post this or that. >_>

You find it ridiculous that people have stuff to blog that people will look at and find interesting and amusing? Get a life, you'll enjoy what we enjoy too :D

If you dont want to know about our spelunking in MSN group convos, just ignore us. Put us on that list, end.
If you don't want us to know about your MSN conversations, keep them to yourself.

No, if you dont want to know about it, then ignore it. I'm more than glad for other people to hear about my MSN conversations.

protip: You don't have to read blogs, end.
You needn't remind us of common sense.

You needn't remind me to use common sense then, oh wise seth.

Yes, welcome to the internetz.
And if you can't deal with it, leave.

I think that statement is better focused on you.

PROTIPS: saying **** to one mod and then sucking upto an admin doesnt work, snake. Well, technically, if a moderator annoys you, you should report to a higher-up.

Not when they are both enforcing the same point. Look at Homeworld'sa.

Yes, join us and become the very thing you want to prevent. You need to learn what sarcasm is.

No, you need to learn what sarcasm is. Sarcasm, like beauty, language, and opinion, relies on personal viewpoint. Its when two viewpoints work together that it works. Seems you don't know it.

Seth that is just contradictory to your statement. Also, I'm sorry that we don't all like to rant our emotional instabilities over a pokemon forum on the pokemon forum blogs. Just saying. We're not all little kids. We're a forum, pokemon or not. And if I want to rant meaningfully, I will.

Rant meaningfully? Pffsh. Threatening the people that dont really care, but feel sorry for you that you are leaving PC does nothing but prove you are a huge cry baby. Also, you cant rant meaningfully. I've read your blogs, even tried to help you.


we have blog subscriptions for the people that care about person x and tags do help. They do, but what if we don't care about your every little blog?

Then don't read it :D

Yes, Ignore it. And let all of your problems go unsolved.

Yeah, some things are better left alone. You learn that after you've been through enough crap in your life to see things black and white; or at least black, grey and white.


Actually, it does. If I buy a computer, I have the right to fill it with junk or pictures of lulcatz. I can put whatever the hell I feel like in it, as long as it doesn't break any law. Its not breaking any law. You forget your computer isn't public, like blogs are.

Ok then, if I pay to make a website. I do whatever crap I want on it.

PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN. You want easily editable screenshots? Alright.

No, pictures of people naked on PC. Read the quote before you comment. Alright.

Yeah, blogs form a 'community.' Communities like to have social events. Blogs form a portion of a community. A blog isn't a social event.

Its not a social event, it forms a community. That community has its own ways of dealing with stuff. Posting MSN convos like a social event to us.

So do I. A journal. Freedom. End. Fine with me, but your random MSN conversations aren't "What I did today...".

No, its how I felt today. What happened today. How "adam" or "john" felt today. Dont look at things from a selfish, materialistic view.

I'll go over the definition again. It's a journal. Not an essay or a structured piece of English writing. Get over yourself. 50 or 100 characters isn't a structured piece of English writing.

Thanks for reinforcing it :D

If no one cared about it, it wouldn't be there in the first place. And that's why you shouldn't post random crap.

Again, people care about it, so its there. Its random crap, but its worthwhile. Just like talking to you, for some people like me. Your opinion is random crap, but making it worthless to other people is worthwhile as I like blogging. kthnx.

Often things happen in conversations that belong to a group. If some members of that group are not online, they can read it. Also, there are other people that read those conversations and find it amusing. Misheard Whisper <3 Then keep it private with your friends on Twitter.

We dont like twitter. We like posting it where other people can also see it, we like posting stuff to the community, not only our friends.

To you it doesn't. To others, the little things are entertaining. And for most of the members who aren't in the conversation, they don't. And, that's only around 180,000 more people.

Dude, look at yourself. SAAAAD. 180 000 people? Pffsh. If PC had that many people viewing it blogs could be completely free and advertisements would pay for everything.


So like.. I don't mean for you to be all taking offense or something..
Yeah, I take offence when my friends are being dissed. Look at the first page where you are all calling them attention seeking and such. Its offensive :/

We blog for fun. End.


Also, I have said stuff that are contradictory, offensive, and also somewhat off topic. I apologise if it offends anyone and to the staff for being off topic XD.

Kura
December 23rd, 2009, 11:59 PM
Wooaah.. I didn't mention anything about my friends posting blogs anywhere so I dunno where you got that from, like I said before..

Also.. I really doubt I said that anyone was attention seeking or anything

:/ Thirdly.. I kinda.. really don't like that language you're using with the "bloody" being taken as a swearword there..

and all this like "Shut the crap"


:/ I really don't know if anyone is personally attacking you here because I really don't feel like they are.. but for you calling me a snake was really borderline for me.. but now that I feel that you're kinda going over the edge by saying this stuff to another member.. and.. I'm honestly sorry but I just feel I need to report this..

:/ I don't want this thread to be a crazy flamewar.. and people DO have different opinions on matters.. but I personally do not appreciate the language that you are using things so I'm really just gonna report this cause I want this to be resolved yet I don't wanna be the one dictating stuff or honestly telling you what to do :/

I just am saying I really don't appreciate the way you are saying stuff to me and to a couple other people here.

If you wanna talk about it over PM or something that you feel that you didn't mean to come across that way, I'll be happy to.. but I will not appreciate a PM that is full of harsh undertone..

:/ I also do not want to go offtopic but I feel it needs to be said because I think that everyone's opinions are valued.. but I just don't want the opinions said in a hurtful way..


Yep~

.Seth
December 24th, 2009, 12:25 AM
@beauty. proletariat:

If you read the thread, you'd see that they are mentioning blogging being restricted as "perks" per group of supporter/ I see.

Subscription, also in bookmarks you can create folders. Get to know technology people. What if I don't want to go through a folder to look for one thing I'll read one time and forget about. I don't want over a thousand bookmarks in that folder, just for the worthwhile blogs.

I want to look at them. So shut the crap about no one wanting to look at it. So do other people, again, shut the crap.
I never said nobody wanted to look at it. I said other people don't. You're not someone else.

You put whatever you want in your journal. leme say something to you, you have no bloody right in deciding what 'shapes' a personal writing. Writing is without form, you attach form as a means of pertaining to conventions. I don't write my "journal" as "Person1: Hey. Person2: Hello, what's new? Person1: Nothing much, just _____."

Do that. If you are going to pussy-foot with definitions and such, go ahead, though I doubt you, (yes, you in particular) will be able to leave for more than two days after making a useless blog about you leaving. Just saying.
No need to resort to vulgar language. As you've said, you think it pointless, I don't; people have different opinions on what they think is useless. It means nothing to you, but it means something to me.

As I said, there is a specific group that will read it, others that will ignore it.
Hardly anyone's in that "group". 10 or 15 out of how many? 6 billion. That's a whole lot. In public, everyone can view and judge it. One more reason to tell your friends over MSN what other people on MSN said. Easy enough.

Yeah you are splitting the community. Flood control has to be reasonable, not "Two blog entries a day. gtfo."
I never said it was two; you're exaggerating. I think 5 is reasonable. Flood control is reasonable. Do you want to post one post after another on the forums too? We may be two opposing sides, but we're a part of the same whole.

You find it ridiculous that people have stuff to blog that people will look at and find interesting and amusing? Get a life, you'll enjoy what we enjoy too.
No, if it's about something interesting, it's not ridiculous. But, you can't change what registers in my mind as ridiculous, so you can't call something meaningful to me useless. You don't have my perspective.

No, if you dont want to know about it, then ignore it. I'm more than glad for other people to hear about my MSN conversations.
It's staring at me in the face on the blog page, how am I supposed to ignore it? I like reading meaningful blogs, by the way. And that's great if you want people to know; tell the ones you know will find it interesting, not everyone.

You needn't remind me to use common sense then, oh wise seth.
I needed to remind you to use it because you weren't using it.

I think that statement is better focused on you.
It goes for everyone, not just the one you like to pick on.

No, you need to learn what sarcasm is. Sarcasm, like beauty, language, and opinion, relies on personal viewpoint. Its when two viewpoints work together that it works. Seems you don't know it.
Quite incorrect you are. Sarcasm doesn't necessarily depend on viewpoints. It's when you use irony and exaggeration to prove a point.

Rant meaningfully? Pffsh. Threatening the people that dont really care, but feel sorry for you that you are leaving PC does nothing but prove you are a huge cry baby. Also, you cant rant meaningfully. I've read your blogs, even tried to help you.
Once again, it's meaningful to me, not you. You should know that fairly well after shoving that fact down our throats.

Then don't read it :D
Oh, because I totally~ couldn't guess that. I hope you read my point on sarcasm.

Yes, Ignore it. And let all of your problems go unsolved.

Yeah, some things are better left alone. You learn that after you've been through enough crap in your life to see things black and white; or at least black, grey and white.
Some things yes. But, you still won't solve anything if you ignore everything.

Ok then, if I pay to make a website. I do whatever crap I want on it.
Go make your own blog, then. There's no rules other than content-appropriate. You can put your conversations there, if they matter to you that much.

No, pictures of people naked on PC. Read the quote before you comment. Alright.
PC's not a pornsite.

Its not a social event, it forms a community. That community has its own ways of dealing with stuff. Posting MSN convos like a social event to us.
It forms part of the community. The forums are the largest part. To you, they are social events. But, social means public, so they're just events.

No, its how I felt today. What happened today. How "adam" or "john" felt today. Dont look at things from a selfish, materialistic view.
It's your diary, not yours and your friends'. I wasn't.

Again, people care about it, so its there. Its random crap, but its worthwhile. Just like talking to you, for some people like me. Your opinion is random crap, but making it worthless to other people is worthwhile as I like blogging. kthnx.
Worthwhile to whom? 1 person? Your opinion isn't crap to me. Have some respect.

We dont like twitter. We like posting it where other people can also see it, we like posting stuff to the community, not only our friends.
Go make your own website then and invite your friends. I can understand if you want people to see it, but if nobody but you and your friends are going to see it, keep it in its own place, such as MSN. They'll see it as they did it.

Dude, look at yourself. SAAAAD. 180 000 people? Pffsh. If PC had that many people viewing it blogs could be completely free and advertisements would pay for everything.
I go by member's list count. Not by how many people view the blogs. They don't care about it either, whether they view the blogs or not.

Signomi
December 24th, 2009, 12:54 AM
Oh I do love waking up to meaningless pile of debates every single morning. But it does take a lot of gall for Kura to post what she had to post because I am quite sure that a lot of us are actually tired of seeing people use blogs for what they call "fun" and didn't really want trouble by expressing their opinion. I'm sure they've kept quiet all this time and some still are, because I assure you, I don't think a lot of us even find any of this crap funny.

I've seen Kura bashed in the past for expressing her own opinion and I just think that's pathetic. PC members have the right to state their opinion on something that they feel is out of place and it's immature to be calling them out for something you can't understand. Yes, Miraj, I'm talking about you. Enough with the cracks and insults, it doesn't suit you to be talking like that even if you are protecting our friends.

Kura, thank you for posting this thread, I admire you on so many levels for the way you speak your mind and this is one of them.

Here are my thoughts.

I understand that people are allowed to use their blog however way they wish, there is no exact restriction on how many blogs a day they may post, what kind of content they are allowed to add, all sorts. But I can state that it would be nice for people to have some kind of tact with this sort of thing.

A point of view of mine is that it is nothing but tedious to see so many blogs on "WTF LOL XDDDDD" kind of conversations since...to me they're hardly worth reading, to the dismay of the person who makes the blog entry in the first place.

Personally I love coherent blog entries that do have quite a bit of substance to it. Yeah, doesn't have to be anybody blogging about their day everyday to the finest detail, but perhaps a nice little entry that involves some normality and something more members can contribute to.

But unfortunately some of these entries, I've seen, have been overshadowed by more stupid ones that seem to get more responses by the regulars and friends than these entries. And even though it's the sort of capitalizing aspect you see in many other factors of life that can't actually be stopped, I do believe on PC it would be great if something were done so that more "innocent" blog entries aren't pushed behind. Perhaps...there could be less of the more ...ahem, comical entries? Perhaps a blog limit would be nice? Posting one entry a day maybe? That would be nice as well. Just something to even the entire thing out so there is a proper mixture of blog entry substances rather than overloading more of one.

beauty. proletariat
December 24th, 2009, 12:58 AM
@seth:

Subscription, also in bookmarks you can create folders. Get to know technology people. What if I don't want to go through a folder to look for one thing I'll read one time and forget about. I don't want over a thousand bookmarks in that folder, just for the worthwhile blogs.
What if I dont like my rights revoked because of idiots like you. Yeah, I said it. Idiots like you. Its opinion k? Things may be worthwhile to me, but not to you.

I want to look at them. So shut the crap about no one wanting to look at it. So do other people, again, shut the crap.
I never said nobody wanted to look at it. I said other people don't. You're not someone else.
I find the pointless blogs other people make interesting. Unless I dont count as "others," in which case, you dont either. Your opinion doesnt matter. Nice message to pass on.

You put whatever you want in your journal. leme say something to you, you have no bloody right in deciding what 'shapes' a personal writing. Writing is without form, you attach form as a means of pertaining to conventions. I don't write my "journal" as "Person1: Hey. Person2: Hello, what's new? Person1: Nothing much, just _____."
Actually, our convos are much more eventful than that. Also, we were talking about structure. And I write in my journal like that, OK? pffsh.

Do that. If you are going to pussy-foot with definitions and such, go ahead, though I doubt you, (yes, you in particular) will be able to leave for more than two days after making a useless blog about you leaving. Just saying.
No need to resort to vulgar language. As you've said, you think it pointless, I don't; people have different opinions on what they think is useless. It means nothing to you, but it means something to me.
Your opinion doesnt count :D It's only you that it means something to~

As I said, there is a specific group that will read it, others that will ignore it.
Hardly anyone's in that "group". 10 or 15 out of how many? 6 billion. That's a whole lot. In public, everyone can view and judge it. One more reason to tell your friends over MSN what other people on MSN said. Easy enough.
6 billion? God. mate.

Half the world cant even use a computer :| nuff said.

Yeah you are splitting the community. Flood control has to be reasonable, not "Two blog entries a day. gtfo."
I never said it was two; you're exaggerating. I think 5 is reasonable. Flood control is reasonable. Do you want to post one post after another on the forums too? We may be two opposing sides, but we're a part of the same whole.
No, we are not a part of the same whole. You are a part of a minority that is jealous of the love we feel in our community. A "whole" works together. You and I; we dont.

You find it ridiculous that people have stuff to blog that people will look at and find interesting and amusing? Get a life, you'll enjoy what we enjoy too.
No, if it's about something interesting, it's not ridiculous. But, you can't change what registers in my mind as ridiculous, so you can't call something meaningful to me useless. You don't have my perspective.
Your perspective and opinion doesnt count~

No, if you dont want to know about it, then ignore it. I'm more than glad for other people to hear about my MSN conversations.
It's staring at me in the face on the blog page, how am I supposed to ignore it? I like reading meaningful blogs, by the way. And that's great if you want people to know; tell the ones you know will find it interesting, not everyone.
We want everyone to see and know about it. We like sharing the good stuff~ Not the emo crap you feel.

You needn't remind me to use common sense then, oh wise seth.
I needed to remind you to use it because you weren't using it.
Coming from someone who doesn't read before posting.

I think that statement is better focused on you.
It goes for everyone, not just the one you like to pick on.
No, you are the one who cant accept that the internetz is how it is. Careless, we dont care about you, gtfo.

No, you need to learn what sarcasm is. Sarcasm, like beauty, language, and opinion, relies on personal viewpoint. Its when two viewpoints work together that it works. Seems you don't know it.
Quite incorrect you are. Sarcasm doesn't necessarily depend on viewpoints. It's when you use irony and exaggeration to prove a point.
To understand it, it does.

Rant meaningfully? Pffsh. Threatening the people that dont really care, but feel sorry for you that you are leaving PC does nothing but prove you are a huge cry baby. Also, you cant rant meaningfully. I've read your blogs, even tried to help you.
Once again, it's meaningful to me, not you. You should know that fairly well after shoving that fact down our throats.
Your opinion doesn't count, like you graciously explained to me.

Then don't read it :D
Oh, because I totally~ couldn't guess that. I hope you read my point on sarcasm.
If that's the case, then stop reading it :D

Yes, Ignore it. And let all of your problems go unsolved.
You repeated this :| look below.

Yeah, some things are better left alone. You learn that after you've been through enough crap in your life to see things black and white; or at least black, grey and white.
Some things yes. But, you still won't solve anything if you ignore everything.
Try it out. It works~ You dont need to dominate every aspect of everyone's lives to solve crap.

Ok then, if I pay to make a website. I do whatever crap I want on it.
Go make your own blog, then. There's no rules other than content-appropriate. You can put your conversations there, if they matter to you that much.
:/ I paid for a blog here. I'm not moving, or paying more.

No, pictures of people naked on PC. Read the quote before you comment. Alright.
PC's not a pornsite.
urgh.

learn the context k?

Its not a social event, it forms a community. That community has its own ways of dealing with stuff. Posting MSN convos like a social event to us.
It forms part of the community. The forums are the largest part. To you, they are social events. But, social means public, so they're just events.
Social event / Event, meh. still an event. A community is a bunch of people with similarities. PC is not the only community here.
There are romhackers, graphics artists, Trivia posters, fanclubs, etc. They are all individual communities within this huge community called PC.
Look at earth. It is a community, with different nations, different ideals, etc.

No, its how I felt today. What happened today. How "adam" or "john" felt today. Dont look at things from a selfish, materialistic view.
It's your diary, not yours and your friends'. I wasn't.
Context.

Again, people care about it, so its there. Its random crap, but its worthwhile. Just like talking to you, for some people like me. Your opinion is random crap, but making it worthless to other people is worthwhile as I like blogging. kthnx.
Worthwhile to whom? 1 person? Your opinion isn't crap to me. Have some respect.
Well your opinion is crap to me, and It affects me, thus I must deal with it.

We dont like twitter. We like posting it where other people can also see it, we like posting stuff to the community, not only our friends.
Go make your own website then and invite your friends. I can understand if you want people to see it, but if nobody but you and your friends are going to see it, keep it in its own place, such as MSN. They'll see it as they did it.
I've already paid for a blog in PC, get out.

Dude, look at yourself. SAAAAD. 180 000 people? Pffsh. If PC had that many people viewing it blogs could be completely free and advertisements would pay for everything.
I go by member's list count. Not by how many people view the blogs. They don't care about it either, whether they view the blogs or not.
Member list count, ok. So many of those accounts are never looked at again, others are just alternative accounts. I estimate approximately 1000 people that actually care about PC.


And christina I've already apologised and explained to kura, yet she still feels the need to be a smart-ass and post it here :/

Also, we are all up for "management", aslong as the bloggers arent forced to a flood limit.

Every day is different to another. Somedays there may be 1 post, others none, others there may be 8. :/

Signomi
December 24th, 2009, 01:06 AM
Alright, I understand you've apologised and it's great that you did, but it's better to try and understand where Kura is actually coming from rather than getting angry as it's just two sides not willing to commute with each other. I can see where she's coming from because it's the kind of jadedness I've known many people to talk to me about in the past. Kura's just the only person I've seen to have actually stepped up and talked about an aspect that makes PC...in actuality, more of a place not worth coming to rather than one that's worth a read for a few minutes or more. I know I've personally shied away from PC because the people on this site are, in my opinion, so overbearing and don't seem to know any limits on their attitudes, and that includes this entire blogging issue, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who actually has this sort of opinion. What Kura is trying to say is that there shouldn't be too much of one kind of substance in blog entries, and that just so happens to be the stupid blog entries our friends actually post.

.Seth
December 24th, 2009, 01:11 AM
@beauty. proletariat:
Well, since my opinion has no matter on you, there is no point in me trying to even communicate my expressions. And apparently, I'm nothing more than a piece of crap to you. I hope you enjoy being a prick, because it may seem fun now, but it won't get you anywhere in life.

beauty. proletariat
December 24th, 2009, 01:17 AM
@beauty. proletariat:
Well, since my opinion has no matter on you, there is no point in me trying to even communicate my expressions. And apparently, I'm nothing more than a piece of crap to you. I hope you enjoy being a prick, because it may seem fun now, but it won't get you anywhere in life.

Thank you for understanding :D

Guillermo
December 24th, 2009, 01:28 AM
Why are so many people complaining about blogs, yet at the same time trying to get 5,000 posts so they can have one?

Josephine
December 24th, 2009, 01:44 AM
There not complaining about the blog system Will, they're explaining about the content being posted.

Guillermo
December 24th, 2009, 01:50 AM
There not complaining about the blog system Will, they're explaining about the content being posted.
But it's still blogs. They want a blog, and more likely than not, they're going to be posting stupid stuff.

Gummy
December 24th, 2009, 02:24 AM
In all honesty, do any of you care more about what people did today than you do about the MSN conversations they had? Blogs will only be pointless; there is no fixing it.

THIRTY-SIX
December 24th, 2009, 02:46 AM
I say have these msn blogs merged into one for the 24 period they were created in. A daily msn blog. Because after the 24 hours they were created in will there be another comment made on it?

Went
December 24th, 2009, 02:55 AM
I want to cry.

Guys, there is no need to turn a peaceful discussion into a tl;dr flamewar (>_>). And the sad thing is that this isn't the first time this happens and chances are it won't be the last one.

Anyway, I'd happily agree with a blog limit, because not many people post more than 3 blogs per day, if at all. In fact, these days I barely see a new page of blogs when I wake up. So, my point is, that system wouldn't really solve the problem. People can use these three/four/x blogs to post "spam", and there is nothing we can do about it.

About a character limit, well, you can make an interesting blog entry without using more than 20 words, if you point to an interesting text from another website for other people to look at, or maybe you want to post pictures, or something. Not sure it would really work D:

The only way to solve that, in my opinion, would be creating a special ignore list for blogs, separate from the main forum. But, the other solutions... they aren't guaranteed to work 100% and I'm sure some "spammers" would find a way to avoid them, anyway. We have quite smart members.

PD: I just read the blogs from last night and yeah, I can understand how you feel, Kura.

Serene Grace
December 24th, 2009, 03:26 AM
I've just gotta say, personally, I don't really mind when people put random content that makes no sense into their blogs. Not minding doesn't mean I still don't find the content stupid though. There's a lot of things that people do that are stupid but the thing is, you don't have to take notice all the time.

To those people saying that WLM conversations are pointless, I just have to say that not all of them make for a pointless read. Msnnomi, Signomi's msn blog, is a good example. I love reading it because it has some great conversations where the content isn't just stupid crap but actual conversations that are interesting and funny.

I think it's up to the bloggers and people posting stupid things to stop, look at their post and ask themselves if it's really worth posting. If it's a 5 second copy and paste then that isn't real content. Also, I just have to say, some conversations' jokes really need to be looked at before they're posted because they tend to offed people sometimes. Then again, this is all my opinion and you can do whatever you want with it.

Oh, and Anthony, thanks for letting us know that you can ignore some blogs. I'm going to start utlizing this feature because there are just some stupid blogs that I can't ignore, which is a real shame.

Edit: Oh the Irony - Latest Group: We post blogs about WLM conversations group!, In Category: PokéCommunity, Owned by: Sakari

I Laugh at your Misfortune!
December 24th, 2009, 04:59 AM
...woah. Just...woah. Guys, we are talking about blogs on a forum about Pokémon here. Just remember that. Insults and whatever are really not necessary. And I have one small point to make to all the people who are labouring the point that donators 'pay' for blogs - if all they wanted was a blog, why not just make a free one at blogger.com or something and put a link in their sig? If people actually want to read your blog, it's not a big deal for them to click one link in your sig, is it?

Blargh. In all honesty, the thing I'm sick of isn't getting on PC and seeing pointless blogs. It's getting on PC and seeing previously nice members suddenly turning into wild beasts and ripping each others heads off about something which, when you think about it, really doesn't matter.

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 24th, 2009, 05:06 AM
Kura, it'd be less "lazy staff" and more "does anyone really want to do this?" I mean, if nobody likes the idea - and I can say that there will be opposition and support within the staff… and maybe fencesitters - then we'll say something (or we'll be too lazy to say something… thus proving half your point.)

I'll say what's on my mind with the pointless blogging: as much as I wouldn't like to put much caps on blogs besides some of our standard rules (e.g. no swearing, inappropriate content, advertising, bashing members), maybe I'll take a bit of a hit and point out that the blog posts we're talking about could fall under the blanket of SPAM.

What's also on my mind: wondering how this thread literally escalated into a war. An unnecessary one where people are yanking each other's hair back and forth. If anything, this would have to be resolved in the HQ - that takes time. Until then, this thread is closed on the fact that it's turning into a really unnecessary spat that isn't going to go anywhere.