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Hashtag
December 28th, 2009, 05:24 AM
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Introduction
ROM Hacking had undergone some drastic an stupendous changes in the past year or so, some people have different opinions on what’s happened. 2009’s been a good year because of the changes and advances we’ve made throughout the hacking world. Yet, people think that the standard of hacking is going down. Yet, with all the advances, surely it’s only getting better? Anyway, you’re all tired of me blurbing here, you’re here for the results; right? Judging, here are the results. Nothing else to say, except, CONGRATS TO THE WINNER! Who is..






















1st Place Awards
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Judges


Manipulation
Anthony La
Christos
Thrace
Okutank

Results
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2nd and 3rd Place Awards
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End notes
Well, a year of progress and promise in ROM Hacking. After a year like such, surely only bright condolences are around the corner?

Credit goes to Christos, Vrai, Thrace, and Anthony La. Compiled and written by Manipulation.

Tropical Sunlight
December 28th, 2009, 05:26 AM
The best one won. And it should. Congrats Frostbite and also Wesley FG and DJG.

Spherical Ice
December 28th, 2009, 05:28 AM
GO AZURE HORIZONS!

Really well done Frostbite. You really deserved it, and stood out from the crowd like a sore thumb! AH is a great hack, and the greatest of hacks need the greatest of rewards. Really, well done.

Also, congratulations to DJG and Wesley, you two are great and deserved to be in the finals.

Kudos to all of you. I like the judging system, as well. Harry seems generous

pizzakoe
December 28th, 2009, 05:33 AM
Awh, I missed all of this! Why..
Aw well!
I hoped Pokemon Brown 2009 was going to win, IF it was even nominated..
I should have checked more often, well Congratulations azure horizon!

miksy91
December 28th, 2009, 06:36 AM
yeah brown sure had deserved to be included in the competition and probably even win it

Pokepal17
December 28th, 2009, 07:01 AM
Brown had the chance, but it didn't get the votes.

YAY! AZURE WON!

Congratulations to Frostbite, WesleyFG and DJG.:3

onyx79
December 28th, 2009, 09:12 AM
wtf is azure horizons?
probably the maker had freinds that will vote for him too bad that an hack that no one knows gets the 1st place

Hashtag
December 28th, 2009, 09:14 AM
wtf is azure horizons?
probably the maker had freinds that will vote for him too bad that an hack that no one knows gets the 1st place

LMAO. You just won biggest lol of the year.

onyx79
December 28th, 2009, 09:21 AM
LMAO. You just won biggest lol of the year.
thanks (= that's why I've posted this.
also noob of the year (=

colcolstyles
December 28th, 2009, 10:13 AM
Predictable, yet disappointing. Personally, I would have preferred to see Ruby Destiny win but given the judging lineup, I can't think of another hack that could've beaten Azure Horizons. Every single member of the judging panel has a hack that strives for that same style and Harry in particular is obsessed with Azure Horizons almost to the point of creepiness so I'm really not surprised. Still, congratulations to Frostbite for becoming quite possibly the most unrecognized HotY winner to date.

.com
December 28th, 2009, 11:15 AM
Yes! Azure Horizons ftw. It's really the hack I mainly saw that excelled in every area. I'd rather see AH win than something, that's, say, overrated because of the graphics and kinda lacks gameplay wise(try to take a guess at which hack I mean). :3 Anyways, great.

Satoshi Ookami
December 28th, 2009, 11:27 AM
Should I say it's unexpected? I guess not since we all knew from the beginning who will win if AH would make it to the judging round as now.
But at least next year will hopefully have less predictable and more objective results.

Congrats to LoG, LP which were the hack they should win, and the unexpected winner AH.

.com
December 28th, 2009, 12:23 PM
Should I say it's unexpected? I guess not since we all knew from the beginning who will win if AH would make it to the judging round as now.
But at least next year will hopefully have less predictable and more objective results.

Congrats to LoG, LP which were the hack they should win, and the unexpected winner AH.
OBVIOUSLY LOG AND LP WEREN'T THE HACKS THAT SHOULD HAVE WON, BECAUSE AH WON.

Sorry, but seriously, that's BS. No hate to you, but AH is all around good in every element of the hack, and isn't just popular based on graphics alone or who's making it. It deserves it. Leave it.

Pokepal17
December 28th, 2009, 02:20 PM
Should I say it's unexpected? I guess not since we all knew from the beginning who will win if AH would make it to the judging round as now.
But at least next year will hopefully have less predictable and more objective results.

Congrats to LoG, LP which were the hack they should win, and the unexpected winner AH.

Yes we knew well that Azure Horizons would win because the others weren't that good in comparison. They were somewhat overrated and just, like John said, because Azure Horizons doesn't have many tile changes doesn't mean it's bad. It's a reall good hack. So I bet if every hack was Firre Red style in graphics, we wouldn't have had the nominations we had. Azure deserved to win, and win it did. :3

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 28th, 2009, 02:52 PM
So I bet if every hack was Firre Red style in graphics, we wouldn't have had the nominations we had. Azure deserved to win, and win it did. :3
Oh trust me; I've been through such a time already. Left and right, mediocre mapping, or other terrible FireRed graphics-based hacks. Or a clash and mix of styles. What I'd look for though is a hack that uses a style nobody has used before - preferably one that the graphics designer opted NOT to share with every darned ROM hacker - and then see it executed in the hack in a way that made it really awesome. Until then, any attempts have been mediocre. (This is my own opinion and not of the judges, of note.)
wtf is azure horizons?
probably the maker had freinds that will vote for him too bad that an hack that no one knows gets the 1st place
The only hack I was remotely aware of before the Hack of the Year was RD:LoG.

Thrace
December 28th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Predictable, yet disappointing. Personally, I would have preferred to see Ruby Destiny win but given the judging lineup, I can't think of another hack that could've beaten Azure Horizons. Every single member of the judging panel has a hack that strives for that same style and Harry in particular is obsessed with Azure Horizons almost to the point of creepiness so I'm really not surprised. Still, congratulations to Frostbite for becoming quite possibly the most unrecognized HotY winner to date.
You might find Life of Guardians more fun to play than Azure Horizons but surely you can recognize that Azure Horizons is the more polished hack? Yes, Life of Guardians is better than Azure Horizons in a few areas but Azure Horizons excels across the board. I feel that the judging very accurately reflects that.

If anyone is interested I've uploaded my judging document.

colcolstyles
December 28th, 2009, 04:41 PM
You might find Life of Guardians more fun to play than Azure Horizons but surely you can recognize that Azure Horizons is the more polished hack? Yes, Life of Guardians is better than Azure Horizons in a few areas but Azure Horizons excels across the board. I feel that the judging very accurately reflects that.

If anyone is interested I've uploaded my judging document.

I've tried to word this a couple times but every time I can't seem to get my point across. I agree that Azure Horizons is a very well presented hack, almost anyone will tell you that. I'm more irritated at the judging panel itself. It doesn't take a genius to see that every single member is/was on the staff here at PC. Seeing how in order to become a member of the staff here at PC you need to fit into the "moderator mold", it seems that the judges weren't as... diverse as I would have hoped. This is evident in, as I mentioned earlier, the types of hacks that all the judges are developing. Let me stress that I'm not saying the judging wasn't impartial. Looking over your judging document I can see that you all (well, at least you) have put a lot of effort into rating the nominees. I just think it would be nice to have a few of the judges be from other backgrounds, like a common member, somebody who prefers natural maps to playable maps, etc.

chrunch
December 28th, 2009, 04:41 PM
NOOO!!
Ruby Destiny lost, like last year!...
Still, congratulations to frostbite for winning.

Master Terrador
December 28th, 2009, 04:59 PM
I've tried to word this a couple times but every time I can't seem to get my point across. I agree that Azure Horizons is a very well presented hack, almost anyone will tell you that. I'm more irritated at the judging panel itself. It doesn't take a genius to see that every single member is/was on the staff here at PC. Seeing how in order to become a member of the staff here at PC you need to fit into the "moderator mold", it seems that the judges weren't as... diverse as I would have hoped. This is evident in, as I mentioned earlier, the types of hacks that all the judges are developing. Let me stress that I'm not saying the judging wasn't impartial. Looking over your judging document I can see that you all (well, at least you) have put a lot of effort into rating the nominees. I just think it would be nice to have a few of the judges be from other backgrounds, like a common member, somebody who prefers natural maps to playable maps, etc.
I Can't help but to agree that I find the judging panel a bit Biased at the fact that most (or not all?) loved azure horizons more than the other two and the same style. Looking over the other HotY AJudging panels they had more diverse likes than this one...

...but it matters not, the better hack won, I feel arguing over an award as this pointless, plus...I pretty much knew if Azure made it to Judging it would be favored more than LP and LoG. Rather than arguing over a Biased judging panel, Congratulations to Frostbite and his Azure Horizons!!!

Thrace
December 28th, 2009, 05:22 PM
I've tried to word this a couple times but every time I can't seem to get my point across. I agree that Azure Horizons is a very well presented hack, almost anyone will tell you that. I'm more irritated at the judging panel itself. It doesn't take a genius to see that every single member is/was on the staff here at PC. Seeing how in order to become a member of the staff here at PC you need to fit into the "moderator mold", it seems that the judges weren't as... diverse as I would have hoped. This is evident in, as I mentioned earlier, the types of hacks that all the judges are developing. Let me stress that I'm not saying the judging wasn't impartial. Looking over your judging document I can see that you all (well, at least you) have put a lot of effort into rating the nominees. I just think it would be nice to have a few of the judges be from other backgrounds, like a common member, somebody who prefers natural maps to playable maps, etc.
I can't really comment on what you've said since I'm wasn't involved in who was chosen for judging this year (or which moderators are chosen). I don't think that the results would have been much different if the judges had been more diverse (your words not mine) and seeing as how you don't think the judging wasn't impartial you clearly think the same.

I don't understand what the problem is then, unless you think that RD: LoG deserved to win over Azure Horizons.

Hashtag
December 28th, 2009, 05:31 PM
The judges all have a reasoning for why they were chosen. We wanted five judges, and the original four judges were the current 'ROM Hacking' staff. Being myself, Christos, Vrai and Anthony. Then we chose Malin, based on the fact he's a top class hacker and the way he ran Hack of the Year last year. So, there was our five judges. Then Vrai pulled out not long ago, so Luke filled in for him. So, that's the way we ran it. Hack of the Year has and always will be a staff ran competition, so I'm overly surprised that you're surprised that the judges have been and are currently staff.

Vrai
December 28th, 2009, 06:08 PM
Yay controversy! :D

Congrats to Azure Horizons; also to Ruby Destiny and Light Platinum. Being one of the top three hacks here is something of a feat.

Ivysaur
December 29th, 2009, 01:49 AM
Well, I think that the prize was well-deserved. Congrats Frostbite, your hack is definitely one of the best I have played after Christos insisted me to.

.Tactic.
December 29th, 2009, 12:17 PM
Aww... I wish LP would've won... oh well, well done and good luck to Frosbite, Wesley and DJG... And congrats on winning frostbite!

Swimmer Ryan
December 29th, 2009, 03:12 PM
thanks (= that's why I've posted this.
also noob of the year (=

Personally I had no idea what this hack was either, but I'd heard about all the other nominees.

.com
December 29th, 2009, 04:01 PM
People need to relax. Every review and judging panel is biased. Everyone is biased. The other hacks lacked in certain areas, which AH had more substance to in. Again, leave it.

Chibi Robo
December 29th, 2009, 08:02 PM
Really If you played over all 3 hacks you would know why they picked Azure Horizon. Azure Horizons may be one of the least known hacks that made it to the finals but it was one of the best hacks I have ever played. It had everything a pokemon hack should have.

* Pokemon Themed Story
* Nintendo styled Maps
* Amazing scripting
* Original FR tiles
* Has a balanced level of difficulty

So if you would take the time to play AH Im sure you will find out why it Azure Horizons won. Congrats to Frostbite~

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 29th, 2009, 08:12 PM
Some of the posts seem to be under the presumption that popular = better.

Hashtag
December 30th, 2009, 04:32 AM
Yeah, those above three posts completely nailed it. ^^

Banjora Marxvile
December 30th, 2009, 04:47 AM
I agree with your choice, surprisingly. I feel Azure Horizons does actually deserve it, but I feel that it's uniqueness does let it down. Whilst my view is that hacks should follow their own way, as Nintendo's style is boring, and repetitive, Azure Horizons has good reviews, and (I haven't played it, and I won't, as I don't relly play hacks much) good screenshots from what I can see.

giradialkia
December 30th, 2009, 05:05 AM
* Original FR tiles
Although I esteem Frostbite and congratulate him thoroughly, I don't think this can be considered as a point to note. Everyone else apparently does. Yes, it's great that Azure Horizons won, and every other area you mentioned is true, but I just disagree that a hack should gain points because it used original Fire Red tiles. It's not as if any effort went into them, is it? I just think that if a hack uses Fire Red's original tiles, that aspect should be ignored. But sincere congratulations to Frostbite, because it's one of the best hacks I've ever seen.

Pokepal17
December 30th, 2009, 07:34 AM
Oh trust me; I've been through such a time already. Left and right, mediocre mapping, or other terrible FireRed graphics-based hacks. Or a clash and mix of styles. What I'd look for though is a hack that uses a style nobody has used before - preferably one that the graphics designer opted NOT to share with every darned ROM hacker - and then see it executed in the hack in a way that made it really awesome. Until then, any attempts have been mediocre. (This is my own opinion and not of the judges, of note.)

The only hack I was remotely aware of before the Hack of the Year was RD:LoG.

Yup, I get what you mean. However, presonally, since the FR style is underused, I like seeing it in hacks, that can pull it off correctly. I don't find custom tiles bad if, like you said, they are all one style. I was just trying to make the point that this is what I've been seeying for a while: Custom tiles (whether they suck or are overused) = Popular hack that's "4W$UM3!

Aww... I wish LP would've won... oh well, well done and good luck to Frosbite, Wesley and DJG... And congrats on winning frostbite!

Well, there's a reason why it didn't.

Some of the posts seem to be under the presumption that popular = better.

A point that I've been talking about with people on MSN for a while. I'm sick of it.

Although I esteem Frostbite and congratulate him thoroughly, I don't think this can be considered as a point to note. Everyone else apparently does. Yes, it's great that Azure Horizons won, and every other area you mentioned is true, but I just disagree that a hack should gain points because it used original Fire Red tiles. It's not as if any effort went into them, is it? I just think that if a hack uses Fire Red's original tiles, that aspect should be ignored. But sincere congratulations to Frostbite, because it's one of the best hacks I've ever seen.

I don't thing the judges rate on custom tiles. If they did, Azure Horizons wouldn't have got the high score it did. I think they rate in one how consistent the style is, if they are overused tiles and if the tiles are used properly.

You could present a hack full of mismatched rips and revamps and I doubt in this competiton it'd get a high score, even if it was all custom tiles.

colcolstyles
December 30th, 2009, 10:02 AM
Although I esteem Frostbite and congratulate him thoroughly, I don't think this can be considered as a point to note. Everyone else apparently does. Yes, it's great that Azure Horizons won, and every other area you mentioned is true, but I just disagree that a hack should gain points because it used original Fire Red tiles. It's not as if any effort went into them, is it? I just think that if a hack uses Fire Red's original tiles, that aspect should be ignored. But sincere congratulations to Frostbite, because it's one of the best hacks I've ever seen.

True. However, I think the point is not that Frostbite chose to use Fire Red tiles but that he was able to effectively emulate the Nintendo style, which, in my opinion, he does flawlessly.

NarutoActor
December 30th, 2009, 10:57 AM
People need to relax. Every review and judging panel is biased. Everyone is biased. The other hacks lacked in certain areas, which AH had more substance to in. Again, leave it.
Everyone is somewhat biases, but when all the judges are biases towards one side then the judging is biases. But I agrue althought they gave points to AH that AH didn't devise they did the same for LP. I saw in my opinion they where trying hard to give Lp the benefit of the doubt in some of it's lacking areas.

Really If you played over all 3 hacks you would know why they picked Azure Horizon. Azure Horizons may be one of the least known hacks that made it to the finals but it was one of the best hacks I have ever played. It had everything a pokemon hack should have.

* Pokemon Themed Story
* Nintendo styled Maps
* Amazing scripting
* Original FR tiles
* Has a balanced level of difficulty

So if you would take the time to play AH Im sure you will find out why it Azure Horizons won. Congrats to Frostbite~
That's not all I look for and some of those positives I see has negitives.
* Pokemon Themed Story- Only if it goes will with the hack which AH did, so thumbs up.
* Nintendo styled Maps- no, nintendo sucked at mapping XD It was square bland, bland and empty. But it is a stly so I don't see it as a positive or a negative.
* Amazing scripting- It wasn't that great now your just over exaggerating and losing creditability.
* Original FR tiles- How is this a pluse, it shoes they didn't take the time to make tiles and insert them. You can still gives off a nintendo feel with out using there hand me down tiles. In every new game Pokemon Comes out with (even if its still on the same platform) Had different stly's and tiles. Look at FR and Ruby.
* Has a balanced level of difficulty- fine I will give you that. XD

Some of the posts seem to be under the presumption that popular = better.They had to do something to get popular and in the real life a company would of released LP or AH. (all nintendo is out to do, is make as much money has possible.)

Yup, I get what you mean. However, presonally, since the FR style is underused, I like seeing it in hacks, that can pull it off correctly. I don't find custom tiles bad if, like you said, they are all one style. I was just trying to make the point that this is what I've been seeying for a while: Custom tiles (whether they suck or are overused) = Popular hack that's "4W$UM3!
No, It's over used. Just the fact alone that nintendo used it made it overused. over millions of kids played that game and saw those graphics, do you think they want to see it again?
I my self beat FR 32 times and I am sick of looking at those tiles when I play a hack. I want to feel like I am playing something new, not old.

Hiroshi Sotomura
December 30th, 2009, 01:59 PM
NarutoActor, your point to my post doesn't explain how doing popular moves determines a quality game. Nintendo's done some very… out-of-box things (The legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker) but they've contributed to quality. Also, I see with the idea that some people want to see a nice change of pace in graphics, though you're talking from the point of view that things can be hacked - in reality, most people don't give a damn about the FireRed graphics. And with your point about the game's styles of mapping, if I had to play through a hack with maps that involved zig-zagging through corners, going through tight fits and all the like, that particular hack would score very, very poorly.

As I read I'm also seeing another point pop up - "OMG JUDGE BIAS FIRERED TILES". That's not the criteria I used - and why would I give say, an eight to Light Platinum and not much to whoever CHANGES the graphics? When you judge something, is it worth contesting the effort of the graphics changes? I don't automatically give points for something being different, and if they look like a pile of crap, why give the hack any high amount for "effort"? It's not deserved just because someone went through such an effort! That having been said, I gave Light Platinum a "7" rather than the higher "8" I gave Azure Horizons because of the pure inconsistency between the style - it was basically half-pulled off and there were quite some issues I took to mind. Hell, if those inconsistencies were out of Light Platinum and it looked like a different hack to everything else, why would I hold back from offering a 10?

Honestly with this graphics BS, if a hack looks good, and the tileset is different and doesn't look like something my dog's just chewed, and better yet, is unique to that hack, I'd probably consider giving it a high amount of marks. It does depend.

And I will remind you all again that graphical presentation is one part of the criteria only.

Wesley FG
December 30th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Predictable, yet disappointing. Personally, I would have preferred to see Ruby Destiny win but given the judging lineup, I can't think of another hack that could've beaten Azure Horizons. Every single member of the judging panel has a hack that strives for that same style and Harry in particular is obsessed with Azure Horizons almost to the point of creepiness so I'm really not surprised. Still, congratulations to Frostbite for becoming quite possibly the most unrecognized HotY winner to date.

I am in agreement! ,

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6146/julgment.png


in addition one of the evaluations that called more me attention was Grahpical presentation, therefore AH it obtained notes highest, exactly being made all on tiles of Firered, in addition, is perceived that OKutank has a certain arrogance with the LP, therefore had been the worse notes received with an absurd difference in relation to the other judges, I really I did not wait to earn, but also it did not wait this judgment, and as much difference enters the candidates the HoY, really disappointed with the JUDGMENT.


But,
congrast, for AH, I wait that it works sufficiently in hack, to prove that he is deserving of this victory, good luck

Uzumaki_King
December 30th, 2009, 07:38 PM
azul deserved it! =D Congrats!

SonicBlazePlatinum
December 31st, 2009, 02:46 AM
I think Azure Horizons deserved to win. I noticed something, in LOG you get Kanto starters, in LP you get Johto starters, and in AH you get Hoenn starters. I like how I get to start with Torchic in AH, it was my first Pokemon when I played Pokemon Ruby for the first time.

Germaniac
January 3rd, 2010, 01:27 AM
I am in agreement! ,

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6146/julgment.png


in addition one of the evaluations that called more me attention was Grahpical presentation, therefore AH it obtained notes highest, exactly being made all on tiles of Firered, in addition, is perceived that OKutank has a certain arrogance with the LP, therefore had been the worse notes received with an absurd difference in relation to the other judges, I really I did not wait to earn, but also it did not wait this judgment, and as much difference enters the candidates the HoY, really disappointed with the JUDGMENT.


But,
congrast, for AH, I wait that it works sufficiently in hack, to prove that he is deserving of this victory, good luck
TRUE!!! LP is much better in graphic than AH, that's not fair, much of the Judges is Frostbite friend, AH is the best for they, but, LP is the best for we, LP win in the poll, right? that's strong evidence, LP fans is more than AH, so LP is the best for we! HotY is PC fav, not Judges fav, who with me?

SonicBlazePlatinum
January 3rd, 2010, 04:04 AM
I disagree with the above post. Fire Red/Ruby/Emerald tiles are better than edited tiles. The last year's winner had Fire Red tiles mixed with RSE. It was known as Rijon Adventures by Anthony La. I'm making a ROM Hack of Fire Red and I'm using the same tiles of Fire Red. Go Frostbite!

P.s. I like Wesley and DestinedJagold too.

Hashtag
January 3rd, 2010, 05:27 AM
LOL WHAT. Frostbite didn't win because the judges are his friends. Quite the opposite, Frostbite is a person who enjoys his secrecy. So, he doesn't converse with many people at all. Yeah, I wouldn't make assumptions like that, just because your hack wasn't good enough to win.

/itouch

.com
January 3rd, 2010, 06:48 AM
LOL WHAT. Frostbite didn't win because the judges are his friends. Quite the opposite, Frostbite is a person who enjoys his secrecy. So, he doesn't converse with many people at all. Yeah, I wouldn't make assumptions like that, just because your hack wasn't good enough to win.

/itouch
LOL.
pwned.
That is all.

Honestly, LP is only good to look at. That's all it is. The basically full graphic overhaul is nice, but it's not anything totally custom and new when it comes down to it, having trendy devamped fourth generation tiles and all. Even if AH did use FireRed default tiles, LP basically is just ripping off HGSS. Sure, he did the devamping and insertion and such, but it's pretty much the same thing--using an existing official game's type-tileset. What I'm saying is, LP doesn't really have anything fresh to offer graphically, just the what's-in/trendy look, and even what's-in/trendy gameplay-wise, so I can completely understand its ratings.

Frostbite
January 3rd, 2010, 09:45 AM
much of the Judges is Frostbite friend
I absolutely have no personal acquaintance with any of the moderators or the judges whatsoever, so I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions so quickly if I were you.

Also, learn2grammar.

RedBaron474
January 3rd, 2010, 11:00 AM
Also, learn2grammar.

I'm with you a hundred percent there, frostbite. Seriously, man learn how to write!!!

Atem
January 6th, 2010, 11:59 AM
I think pokemon light platinum should win. The tiles from weasley are the best. :))

giradialkia
January 6th, 2010, 12:11 PM
I think pokemon light platinum should win. The tiles from weasley are the best. :))

It's done, you know...
And, @that person whose name is a bunch of symbols that don't show up on my mobile, you suck. Frostbite put in genuine effort. Rofl, you are amusing.
Go The Doctor!

>Dante<
January 6th, 2010, 12:40 PM
with respect for frostibite.. (that personally I don't know), I don't believe that Azure Horizons deserve to be the HOTY.

I, have personally been one of the competitors for the HOTY, with my hack pokemon crono, and, also if I have not arrived in final, I've approved very gladly the decision of the public.
But I'm a lot in disagreement with the decisions of the judges...
yes...each has a style that prefers, but it seems me very strange, and also incorrect, that the judges have been All (except Christos, for only one vote >.<) of accord to put Hazure horizons as HOTY.

I believe that the system of vote is wrong.
I believe that the vote is only and exclusively to the public (among which the moderators reenter, also, but as publish).

I don't want to discredit the job of frostbite, but the results of the first round speak...
the public prefers Light Platinum.

Some of the posts seem to be under the presumption that popular = better.
often the 2 things are connected each other.


I still make the compliments to frostibite to have won...
but I don't consider azure horizons as HOTY because it hasn't been chosen from the public...sorry.

colcolstyles
January 6th, 2010, 04:37 PM
I'm getting this incredible feeling of déjà vu (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=3198181&postcount=19).

SonicBlazePlatinum
January 6th, 2010, 04:43 PM
Sorry Dante, but I think Frostbite deserved to win. His hack is a good hack, not because the Hoenn starters, but because of the plot. Team Tundra is interesting. I wonder what the admins are like?

558122_DG
January 6th, 2010, 05:16 PM
they all deserved to win, cause they are all great hacks :)

nice job everyone :)

NarutoActor
January 6th, 2010, 05:35 PM
I think Azure Horizons deserved to win. I noticed something, in LOG you get Kanto starters, in LP you get Johto starters, and in AH you get Hoenn starters. I like how I get to start with Torchic in AH, it was my first Pokemon when I played Pokemon Ruby for the first time.Are you serious, your main reason was ruby starters. You must be in heaven when you enter the scrapbox.

Sorry Dante, but I think Frostbite deserved to win. His hack is a good hack, not because the Hoenn starters, but because of the plot. Team Tundra is interesting. I wonder what the admins are like????, you know you just contradicting your early post. If you chang your mind then at leaste deleate your post, you are sending mix signals. Contradicting your self makes you lose your creditability.

I disagree with the above post. Fire Red/Ruby/Emerald tiles are better than edited tiles. The last year's winner had Fire Red tiles mixed with RSE. It was known as Rijon Adventures by Anthony La. I'm making a ROM Hack of Fire Red and I'm using the same tiles of Fire Red. Go Frostbite!

P.s. I like Wesley and DestinedJagold too.Your lossing more, and more creditablity with every post. Now we know, you can't create nice tiles. You hope that fr tiles are a hit, so your hack would be a hit. (Can we restrain from shot outs, it's off topic.)

LOL.
pwned.
That is all.

Honestly, LP is only good to look at. That's all it is. The basically full graphic overhaul is nice, but it's not anything totally custom and new when it comes down to it, having trendy devamped fourth generation tiles and all. Even if AH did use FireRed default tiles, LP basically is just ripping off HGSS. Sure, he did the devamping and insertion and such, but it's pretty much the same thing--using an existing official game's type-tileset. What I'm saying is, LP doesn't really have anything fresh to offer graphically, just the what's-in/trendy look, and even what's-in/trendy gameplay-wise, so I can completely understand its ratings. Another contradiction, first you say LP look's good, but then you say his tiles aren't good.(I feel like I am playing phoenix wright ace attorney.)

I'm getting this incredible feeling of déjà vu (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=3198181&postcount=19).Same here, come on people if a point has already been made, then no need to say it again.

SonicBlazePlatinum
January 6th, 2010, 05:43 PM
My main reason for thinking Azure Horizons is a great hack and deserved both HotM/ HotY:

Everything, the Hoenn starters, the evil team, the Fire Red/Emerald tiles.
By the way NarutoActor I wasn't contradicting myself I was changing my mind. I didn't remember what my previous posts were.

NarutoActor
January 6th, 2010, 05:49 PM
Well then say that. :P

AND LIKE I SAID, if you just changed your mind then delete your own post.
Did you just personally ignored this point, for your own benefit. Or did you forgot that too.

Hashtag
January 7th, 2010, 06:08 AM
OMG colcolstyles, you posted exactly what I was thinking. :3

.com
January 7th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Another contradiction, first you say LP look's good, but then you say his tiles aren't good.(I feel like I am playing phoenix wright ace attorney.)
I definately did not say that. I'm saying that LP looks good, but it offers a trendy graphic style that we've all seen before in other hacks, and it is basically rehashing the official DS games' graphics on GBA, anyways. Either way, don't try to assume things. The grammar and spelling errors in your other opinions around this thread just make them fail more. kthnx. \m/

Schultstaffel
January 12th, 2010, 07:52 AM
What ??
DJG in the 3rd place ?No way !
His hacks are all very exciting,and I found that LOG is the best from all of the hacks that I've played before..
A game doesn't need a good graphics,or else,the most important in a games is the excitement n joys when playing it..
In my heart DJG is the true winner,:)

PKFL_531
January 18th, 2010, 07:43 PM
*Applauds for Azure Horizons*

yay for azure horizons! ^_^