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KieronGames
February 15th, 2010, 01:00 PM
They should since many drugs kill and one example is a cigarette.
Many shops sell that even though all illegal drugs can kill.
So shouldn't many shops be closed down?

FreakyLocz14
February 15th, 2010, 01:08 PM
Because cigarettes aren't illegal, deary.

KieronGames
February 15th, 2010, 01:09 PM
they should be though since many die

Dakota
February 15th, 2010, 01:10 PM
Because cigarettes aren't illegal, deary.

^That, and if it were made illegal, people would just start boot-legging them, and that would cause even more deaths, and arrests, and etc.

So it wouldn't be worth it. It's a person's choice to smoke.

Yoshimi
February 15th, 2010, 01:10 PM
This is America.
Since when was America perfect?

Prohibiting a popular item is stupid. The only way it would actually work is if you make people want to quit smoking.

KieronGames
February 15th, 2010, 01:11 PM
in the uk each year 114,000 people die from cigarettes
wow thats where i come from

Virtual Chatot
February 15th, 2010, 01:11 PM
I would read into the history of prohibition my friend. Making things illegal does nothing to stop their flow and always creates a black market that does more harm than good.

Talli
February 15th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Curtis mum has smoked since she was 13 and nothing has happened to her.. I think we should make drinking illegal since many die from that- driving when drunk, ruinning your liver and dieing waiting for a transplant.. so yeah drinking illegal.

KieronGames
February 15th, 2010, 01:17 PM
yeah thats actually a good theory
my dad nearly done drink driving once...

Dakota
February 15th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Curtis mum has smoked since she was 13 and nothing has happened to her.. I think we should make drinking illegal since many die from that- driving when drunk, ruinning your liver and dieing waiting for a transplant.. so yeah drinking illegal.

Read the 18th Amendment (Prohibition) Then read what happened afterward. All I'm gonna say.

Sora
February 15th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Just look back at when America made Alcohol Illegal. Crime Rates went up, and there we a whole bunch of others things, like bootlegging and that of the sort.

Making Cigarettes would do the same thing, and though us Americans ain't the smartest of the bunch, we at least know those consequences, and not want to repeat history.

... Pretty much what ~Bloodex said above me as well. XD;

Ayselipera
February 15th, 2010, 01:29 PM
Well there are enough awareness commercials, billboards, and everything else to warn people of the dangers of smoking. I think it's up to the person to choose whether or not they'll buy a pack of cigarettes. Banning them altogether would probably make more uneeded problems.

FreakyLocz14
February 15th, 2010, 01:29 PM
they should be though since many die

Just because they should be doesn't mean they are.
Shops aren't going to close until they are made illegal if they ever are.
But making them illegal with mean cigarretes will be sold by drug dealers who kill for territory and start violent street gangs.

Anxiety.
February 15th, 2010, 01:38 PM
Making cigarettes illegal would do more harm then good.

Dealers would see the sudden need for an illegal way to obtain cigarettes, and take advantage of it. They'd make cheap ones, using even more dangerous chemicals, and sell them for more than they are sold for now, and we'd buy them, because of how addictive nicotine is.

Same if they made alcohol illegal. Dealers would start to sell it. And we all know how dangerous dealers can be. It would also cause an rise in the amount of dealers out there, and how active they are. Which could cause problems for the police.

Plus, since when did you need to close down a whole shop to stop people from buying one product?

EDIT: Ah, you're 10 I see. You'll understand all of this fully when you grow older.

.little monster
February 15th, 2010, 01:40 PM
they should be though since many die
It's a little too late to make them illegal.

1. They make too much money.
2. Too many people smoke.

It would only cause harm to the economy if they made it illegal.

Plus people know what smoking does to them. If they keep on smoking, or start smoking, that's their own choice and they chose the consequences that may come of it.

The Darkest Gale
February 15th, 2010, 01:46 PM
they won't take ciggarettes away because the goverment (which I want to punch and make them go through hell right now) don't make them illegal cause it makes them money and when have the goverment EVER CARED ABOUT US >: (

Esper
February 15th, 2010, 01:56 PM
If you want people to stop smoking just get the government to put huge taxes on cigarettes. People hate taxes so they won't buy cigarettes. Oh, wait, government <3 the tobacco industry. Nevermind.

twocows
February 15th, 2010, 04:09 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States
Making something illegal doesn't mean people will stop buying it. It just makes the law seem stupid. Read: marijuana, piracy, patenting, copyright, obscenity...

If you want people to stop smoking just get the government to put huge taxes on cigarettes. People hate taxes so they won't buy cigarettes. Oh, wait, government <3 the tobacco industry. Nevermind.
Your theory fails, though. Taxes on cigarettes are already huge, and people still buy them. They just go broke in the process.

jasonresno
February 15th, 2010, 04:31 PM
Cigs are a legalized poison. We sell them because people will get addicted to them, slowly kill themselves, and spend all of their money doing so.

It's all about the benjamins, bud.

Nothing positive has EVER come out of cigs existing or being legal. It ruins lives with no positives.

But this is America: Where you are free to eat, drink, and smoke yourself to death.

Algo Fonix
February 15th, 2010, 06:13 PM
I say tax the hell out of them. I know there's already a huge tax on them, but why not take it even higher? Seems like it'd be better for the government, what with people potentially living longer and continuing to pay taxes. Dead people aren't profitable.

mystletainn
February 15th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Make sure you guys keep this discussion civil or its going to get closed.

jasonresno
February 15th, 2010, 07:11 PM
I say tax the hell out of them. I know there's already a huge tax on them, but why not take it even higher? Seems like it'd be better for the government, what with people potentially living longer and continuing to pay taxes. Dead people aren't profitable.

Agreed. Tax the hell out of them. It'll help break peoples addictions and for those that are STILL willing to pay obscene money for cancer-in-a-box: it'll just help out our economy.

Win win win.

.Gamer
February 15th, 2010, 08:03 PM
Nobody forces you to smoke cigarettes...

Agreed. Tax the hell out of them. It'll help break peoples addictions and for those that are STILL willing to pay obscene money for cancer-in-a-box: it'll just help out our economy.

Win win win.


It won't make people stop smoking them, it will just make them poorer, cartons cost ~$75 in NY and people smoke them

Algo Fonix
February 15th, 2010, 08:11 PM
Obviously it won't make everyone stop smoking, but it'll probably persuade quite a few people to at least cut back.

KieronGames
February 16th, 2010, 12:38 AM
Which would people want to do:
Buy stuff for their family?
or
Smoke highly priced cigs. all day?
Many choose #2 so many dont care about their families

Flame Claw
February 16th, 2010, 02:20 AM
Have you seen a smoker after not having a *** for a few hours? They get agitated and angry. Do you want about half of the population like that all the time?

And these people are funding your schools and hospitals mate.

Droidz
February 16th, 2010, 02:34 AM
Making Cigarettes more expensive wont stop them because if they get addicted they Will buy it just like people do with other drugs for example,

Dealer-"Wants some Drugs?, $100 cash"
Person-"Ok!"...Next day...
Person-"I need more drugs gimme!"
Dealer-"Okay $500 cash!"
Person-"Okay fine Just give it!", and repeat.

Dawson
February 16th, 2010, 02:34 AM
An average of 114 people die in the US from car accidents.

Cars should be illegal.

The Darkest Gale
February 16th, 2010, 02:39 AM
Have you seen a smoker after not having a *** for a few hours? They get agitated and angry. Do you want about half of the population like that all the time?


Yes I have

making the taxes go up wouldn't help at all. and taking them away wouldn't help at all either
and besides its a drug
people could go and buy them from drug dealers any day of the week in my town : P lol
Also and this is really sick but:
every 2 seconds a person dies
every 1 second a person is born
they say there should be a war every 60-80 years to keep the world not over crowded
smokers kill themself so in a way its stops the world from getting over crowded (I really didn't want to say that)

someone will say 'how would like it to die in the war!?' and probably say stuff about this post but oh well its true >.>

cigarettes should have never been invented

Lucy Lu
February 16th, 2010, 06:50 AM
Well they can't make them illegal. That is how the government makes their money. All those taxes from the tobacco. But I did notice some people I know who quit smoking because the high taxes of tobacco. It is their choice if they want to keep smoking. If they feel it is getting expensive they will quit. It can be done, but it is their call. The government could raise tax up again. But they will never legalized tobacco. I understand that it kills everyone, but there are other stuff that kills people a lot more. Like car accidents and heart disease.

twocows
February 16th, 2010, 08:52 AM
If raising taxes on cigarettes stopped people from buying them, we would have already seen it. Instead, just as many people buy cigarettes, most of them already poor and now spending money they don't have, making them poorer. Not to mention you're putting people working for the tobacco industry out of jobs. It's a lose/lose situation. I'm personally for a public smoking ban, but raising taxes on cigarettes isn't going to help anyone.

FreakyLocz14
February 16th, 2010, 07:44 PM
Cigarettes are an easy target for taxation for politicians.
Most of the public would stronly oppose higher income or property taxes, or sales taxes, but taxes on vices like fags and alcohol are a lot of the time supported.

Yuoaman
February 16th, 2010, 07:56 PM
An average of 114 people die in the US from car accidents.

Cars should be illegal.

An average of 685 people die every day by drowning, in the entire world.

Swimming and boating should be illegal.

But seriously... Outlawing cigarettes is probably one of the worst things you could do in the world. :\