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Ian
October 27th, 2004, 04:05 PM
Hey,

Ok I just went to the Lilycove Dept. Store and bought Fire Blast and Hyper Beam.

I taught Fire Blast to Ninetails.

Now, which pokemon should I teach Hyper Beam to? They are can be taught that move [pokemon in signature].

NOTE: My Kyogre has Body Slam and I was told that, that was supposedly a stupid move to put with Kyogre (It came w/ Kyogre when I caught it though), so should I teach Hyper Beam to Kyogre and loose Body Slam?

Thanks. :D

Mr Cat Dog
October 27th, 2004, 04:18 PM
The only Pokemon you should EVER teach Hyper Beam to is Slaking. Hyper Beam is like a no-no for all Pokemon since it wastes precious time. Slaking is different because it wastes a turn anyways XD But... yeah... keep Body Slam on your Kyogre and get a Slaking to teach it Hyper Beam. ^_^

Toothache
October 28th, 2004, 04:51 PM
I wouldn't even keep Body Slam on Kyogre. Actually, this should be moved to Movesets since the question is about moves.

As for Hyper Beam, Slaking is your Pokemon of choice, as covered by the earlier post.

Slaking@Lum Berry
EV: 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 Def
Nature: + Att, - Sp Att
Hyper Beam
HP Ghost
Brick Break
Rock Slide

Kyogre@Leftovers/Petaya Berry
EV: 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
Surf
Ice Beam
HP Grass
Calm Mind

Oh, and

Moved

Ian
October 28th, 2004, 06:20 PM
*laughs* I dont even have a Slaking. :P I see, thanks for the tips Mr Cat Dog

Lol Hariyama has surf... AHHH!! I need to switch/change some moves around... eep.

Calm Mind? Hmm... I dont even think I have that. What's HP Grass. :P Heh... -_-

DayDreamer
October 28th, 2004, 06:53 PM
*laughs* I dont even have a Slaking. :P I see, thanks for the tips Mr Cat Dog

Lol Hariyama has surf... AHHH!! I need to switch/change some moves around... eep.

Calm Mind? Hmm... I dont even think I have that. What's HP Grass. :P Heh... -_-
HP Grass basically means "hidden power grass". I think you should have thunder instead though due to the constant rain effect. Didn't Kyogre have calm mind to start with?

Frostweaver
October 28th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Kyogre so SHOULD NOT have calm mind. It does boosts your sp.atk, but risking a round to be weakened (therefore, weakening the possible water spout or a status attack hitting Kyogre especially thunder wave results in "gg Kyogre") is not worth it. Also, Kyogre will lose to "something" out there unless it got all 4 moves of water, electric, grass and ice. This will only fail against Shedinja, to have thunderbeam+spout+HP GRass.

Refer to advanced trainers' guide for more details.

Ian
October 28th, 2004, 07:52 PM
My Manectric will learn Thunder. Do I really need 2 pokemon that have learned Thunder?

Toothache
October 28th, 2004, 08:05 PM
Actually, Thunder is not a bad move to have if you're in a Rain Dance themed team (since you have Kyogre, why not take advantage of Drizzle?). Electric moves are only resisted by other Electric types, Grass types, and are completely resisted by Ground types, but that still gives a nice overall type coverage, especially since you have a never-miss move with base power 120 :-)

And in case you didn't understand frosty's suggestion:

Kyogre@Lum Berry
EV: 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
Nature: + Speed, - Att
Surf
Ice Beam
HP Grass
Thunder

cigarettes
October 28th, 2004, 09:03 PM
Replace body slam for hyper beam

Cigarettes :chinese:

Ian
October 28th, 2004, 09:04 PM
My Hariyama knows Surf... Eep *confused*

Hmm Ciggaretes....

DayDreamer
October 28th, 2004, 10:30 PM
My Hariyama knows Surf... Eep *confused*

Hmm Ciggaretes....
The reason they mention Kyogre having surf cause it's a decent water attack for him. If you don't want it to learn surf then maybe concidering water pulse since theres a chance of confusion.

Ian
October 29th, 2004, 12:24 AM
I have Water Pulse, now which one? Hyper Beam or Water Pulse?

Mullet
October 29th, 2004, 01:50 AM
In my opinion Surf is better than both Hyper Beam and Water Pulse!

Ice demon
October 29th, 2004, 01:53 AM
He's playing Ingame so HP grass is not an option
use rest..........
If he doesn't want spout he could try surf or hydro pump
No hyper beam......except on slaking
water pulse < surf so if anything use surf for a water move

best i can think of presently.