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tehGDS
March 20th, 2010, 07:19 PM
I'm a vegetarian and I join PETA. And what about u.

Feign
March 20th, 2010, 07:25 PM
I eat everything! (title is misleading and/or biased though). XD :P

I don't see anything wrong with eating animals, and in fact would even encourage the mastication of lesser known meats such as kangaroo.

tehGDS
March 20th, 2010, 07:27 PM
I eat everything! (title is misleading and/or biased though). XD :P

I don't see anything wrong with eating animals, and in fact would even encourage the mastication of lesser known meats such as kangaroo.

rofl

I can't look at the animal after I eat the steakI'm such a sissy :(

Feign
March 20th, 2010, 07:29 PM
I wished I had tried crocodile whilst in Australia as well.

Chicken is one of the classic meats I like. I don't like fish too much, unless if it has been heavily spices or raw (sushi). Kangaroo steak tastes sort of like beef, but it is slightly tougher. The meat on their tail (there isn't much) tastes a bit like lamb.

tehGDS
March 20th, 2010, 07:31 PM
I wished I had tried crocodile whilst in Australia as well.

Chicken is one of the classic meats I like. I don't like fish too much, unless if it has been heavily spices or raw (sushi). Kangaroo steak tastes sort of like beef, but it is slightly tougher. The meat on their tail (there isn't much) tastes a bit like lamb.

steps back scared, jk I should rename I wish I can eat, I vomittttttt when I eat it

Hatenko
March 20th, 2010, 07:32 PM
I'm not especially a vegetarian or a carnivore. I don't eat from fast food chains, does that count for something?

tehGDS
March 20th, 2010, 07:34 PM
I'm not especially a vegetarian or a carnivore. I don't eat from fast food chains, does that count for something?


Omnivore True man ^^ but do you like meat

Yoshimi
March 20th, 2010, 07:38 PM
Oh god, I'm sorry that you had to join PETA ;;
They're terrible at everything except getting girls to strip.

As for me, I'm an omnivore. Personally, I believe that many diets are easier to sustain because of meat even though it is possible to live a full life as a vegan/vegetarian.

tehGDS
March 20th, 2010, 07:39 PM
rofl strip go pamela anderson

IceSage
March 20th, 2010, 07:52 PM
I'm a vegetarian and I join PETA. And what about u.

You joined PETA, or you plan to join? Also, you can be a vegetarian without joining known terrorist groups. Yes, you read right. PETA is classified as a terrorist organization. They also don't care about animals as much as you might think... but rather they perform mass publicity stunts for attention. If they honestly cared about animals, they wouldn't falsify their "reporting" nor would they cause harm to animals. (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/)

They're an organization that saps suckers out of their money to gain a profit, by claiming it goes to a "good cause" when really, they're exploiting their tax-exempt status. This is not me pulling things out of thin air, mind you; please do some research.

I'm not sharing this to pop your air balloon, to shatter your hopes and dreams, but rather to protect you and make sure you're informed that they're not as nice as you might think. So, if you honestly care for animals, I'd reconsider your affiliation with such an organization.

Moving on, my status on eating animals, basically consists of a rather long explanation in which I would have to cite a large ton of sources to make my point, especially to a vegan/vegetarian. In a nutshell, however, I do not believe that eating animals is wrong, and the way we process and treat livestock is actually beneficial to our environment, as well as humane for the animals themselves.

You may be thinking, "Beneficial and humane?" Yeah, a normal reaction. That's why I said I'd have to cite sources to explain. Something that's not really worth the effort at the moment for this thread, but my reasons hold water.

twocows
March 20th, 2010, 07:56 PM
http://petakillsanimals.com/
I hate PETA because they are hypocrites. I am tolerant of vegans unless they try to tell me that my way of doing things is immoral; then I get a bit annoyed.

Kura
March 20th, 2010, 08:13 PM
Dudes.. this thread is about vegetarians and vegans.. not organizations :/

I eat meat just because I am so picky about food and I wouldn't be able to get proper protein or nutrition intake if I were a vegetarian or vegan. I respect those who are, though.

Sometimes I would like to try being one.. but I know I couldn't last :/ I'd be too tempted to eat meat.

Esper
March 20th, 2010, 08:14 PM
I'm a vegetarian and I join PETA. And what about u.
What a stereotype. You make us other vegetarians look bad.

I am not and have never been a member of PETA.

Having said that, I still somewhat admire the bravery/insanity of those people who disable whaling ships even though it gives ammunition to anti-environmentalists who try to paint every vegetarian as a crazy PETA member.

IceSage
March 20th, 2010, 08:15 PM
Dudes.. this thread is about vegetarians and vegans.. not organizations :

While that's true... The OP felt the need to share his affiliation with PETA, in which also adopts the subject of people's choice to eat or refrain from eating meat.

Aureol
March 20th, 2010, 08:15 PM
http://petakillsanimals.com/
I hate PETA because they are hypocrites. I am tolerant of vegans unless they try to tell me that my way of doing things is immoral; then I get a bit annoyed.

I agree completely with you.

Well, I don't think anyone take People Eating Tasty Animals seriously, but as far as vegans and vegetarians go, I think that so long as the animal isn't tortured or something, it's alright to eat. There are a few inhumane things amongst the farmers that raise pigs and stuff that I'd like done, but there's nothing wrong with balancing our diet with a little meat. Besides, if we weren't here, they would only be eaten by something else. I'll tolerate those that disagree, so long as you don't jump all over me constantly about it.

IceSage
March 20th, 2010, 08:19 PM
I agree completely with you.

Well, I don't think anyone take People Eating Tasty Animals seriously, but as far as vegans and vegetarians go, I think that so long as the animal isn't tortured or something, it's alright to eat. There are a few inhumane things amongst the farmers that raise pigs and stuff that I'd like done, but there's nothing wrong with balancing our diet with a little meat. Besides, if we weren't here, they would only be eaten by something else. I'll tolerate those that disagree, so long as you don't jump all over me constantly about it.

This goes in part with what I was trying to say would require a long explanation in my post. Basically, which would you rather have?

A) A cow that lives out it's live in peace, with unlimited food, large protected fields, and shelter.

B) A wild cow that has no shelter, probably has come down with several diseases, and will most likely be mauled violently by a pack of wolves and every animal with sharp teeth in the general area.

I'm going for A myself.

Cassino
March 21st, 2010, 12:32 AM
As a person who values any given life form equally, I find it odd how vegetarians will refuse to eat animals yet are perfectly willing to eat plants. As for people who simply don't like meat, I don't call them vegetarians as it's misleading — the word implies one has a sort of personal crusade going.

I'm going for A myself.
B is not nice, but it's normal, natural and therefore for me at least preferrable; A is artificial.

Feign
March 21st, 2010, 12:59 AM
You forgot to mention free run vs. prison (more or less).

Like for chicken, they're force fed all the time (to get fat and plump), and medicated heavily. They just stand and eat. That is what the vast majority is eating. So you'd want to make sure you're eating the right kind of meat.

Companies like monsanto, might say otherwise.

Throat
March 21st, 2010, 03:30 AM
It's impossible to have the right amount of protein being vegetarian, unless you spend money on supplements. Honestly, vegetarians are so silly.

Kon~
March 21st, 2010, 06:22 AM
I'm pescatarian, but I don't not eat meat for some stupid, noble reason. I'm just really not keen on eating something that I know was once alive. My initial vegetarianism came about of me being given a chicken leg that still had a couple of feathers on it. I took one look, threw up and I couldn't face eating meat again. I started eating fish about a year ago because I was getting ill from lack of protein.

And I hate PETA.

Anti-Hero
March 21st, 2010, 07:27 AM
I have a vegetarian friend, and a vegan one. I don't know how they do it. I did it for about a week, then realized that I needed meat.

Rokusasu
March 21st, 2010, 08:22 AM
I used to be a vegetarian, until my body started to disagree with the lack of protein (and supplements didn't help me very much). Since I reverted back to omnivorism, I am very picky with what meat I eat.

IceSage
March 21st, 2010, 09:12 AM
B is not nice, but it's normal, natural and therefore for me at least preferrable; A is artificial.

If you're up for things that are "natural," never take medication again, ever. It's unnatural for you to ingest medication, that's not how we humans would survive in the wild.

Going by your logic, the world, including the animal world, would be in mass chaos. The environment would be damaged greatly.

.little monster
March 21st, 2010, 09:13 AM
I am an omnivore. However I eat more vegetables because I don't like a lot of meat.

LOL @ PETA

Fox♠
March 21st, 2010, 03:12 PM
I love meat, so much. I'd happily kill an animal myself and eat it.

Bluerang1
March 21st, 2010, 03:20 PM
I only eat chicken, beef, pork and fish. I'm NOT venturing into duck, rabbit, lamb etc. urgh. I'm sure I've had duck with chinese food though D:

Beckie
March 22nd, 2010, 02:01 AM
I only eat meat from where I know the animals have had a good life. And with a good life I mean; been able to go outside, not been sitting in a box with 20 others all it's life, have been slaughtered in a good and quick way etc etc. It's expensive to buy this kind of meat, but I rather spend some extra money on good meat than meat from a sad pig.

I'm a vegetarian in school though, since I have no idea where their food comes from.

Ninja Caterpie
March 22nd, 2010, 02:46 AM
I only eat chicken, beef, pork and fish. I'm NOT venturing into duck, rabbit, lamb etc. urgh. I'm sure I've had duck with chinese food though D:

Sam Kekovitch would like to speak with you. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Sam+Kekovitch&search_type=&aq=f)

OT: I'm an omnivore. I eat pretty much anything. except eggplant. uuhgh

Talli
March 22nd, 2010, 09:55 AM
Vegans annoy me- they are probaby the main reason the great apes are dieing, the tree get cut down for soya..can't vegan drink Rice/oat milk and leave my monkeys alone..

I eat meat and drink rice milk.

Captain Hobo.
March 22nd, 2010, 05:35 PM
No, I am not a vegetarian I hate vegetables.

tehGDS
March 23rd, 2010, 03:35 PM
I didn't know peta is terrorist O( I'll stop, I drink milk, I don't drink soy I only eat soy, dang I'll cut down on the tofu because I don't want to kill it.

fox....wtf? :( cartman :)

Porygon-Z
March 23rd, 2010, 03:54 PM
I'm a veggie because I hate animals! I'd never put one of those dirty creatures in my mouth! Meat is icky!
Leather is about the most I can manage.

Fish is ok though! It's yummy!

Theodore Bruno
March 23rd, 2010, 03:57 PM
Ew, how could anyone not be able to eat meat? Would be missing out on so much delicious food. Like my mama's fried chicken! Also, PETA is evil.

Gumball Watterson
March 23rd, 2010, 04:07 PM
Really... No offense but I think Vegans have something wrong going in their mind. They are either insane or hypocrites at heart. If you were stuck in an island with only poisonous plants and cute bunnies that eat the plants which one would you eat?...

I, like every normal human, would eat the bunny. I'm wouldn't starve to death just because I think meat isn't meant to be eaten. Sorry kids, if you don't eat meat you are gonna seriously screw up your figure and you life. The only reason vegetarians exist is because of modern medicine. Even then you are nowhere as healthy as a meat-eater.

As for the best conclusion in the world: I sent PETA a Happy Meal through the mail.

Porygon-Z
March 23rd, 2010, 04:10 PM
Ew, how could anyone not be able to eat meat? Would be missing out on so much delicious food. Like my mama's fried chicken! Also, PETA is evil.

Meat makes my skin crawl! Animals are gross! Xp

I agree about PETA! Do you see how the abuse innocent models by locking them up in cages!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2z2lTUR5Ao

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljBPbHLmwK8&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOvklfZjpeA

http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/book.asp

Oh Peta...how silly...

Anyways sea Kitties sure are yummy!!

tehGDS
March 25th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Meat makes my skin crawl! Animals are gross! Xp

I agree about PETA! Do you see how the abuse innocent models by locking them up in cages!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2z2lTUR5Ao

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljBPbHLmwK8&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOvklfZjpeA

http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/book.asp

Oh Peta...how silly...

Anyways sea Kitties sure are yummy!!


OMG! They're evil, also meat is nasty :( The aftertaste is disgusting. >:)

NarutoActor
March 25th, 2010, 04:30 PM
I grow up with meat in almost all my meals. I really could care less about how there treated(it would be nice if there allowed to rome, but if there in caged I don't care. The only thing I care about is the taste in my mouth. :D)

Also I never went hunting, but if I was given the opportunity, I would take it.
Pork chops <3

Sneeze
March 25th, 2010, 06:11 PM
Not vegetarian, I like meat to much. Chicken, beef, duck, bacon (Can't imagine a life sans bacon), don't care for fish or lamb though because I just don't like the taste. I honestly don't see the point in being vegetarian, we have evolved to eat meat, we're predators by nature and we are designed to be omnivorous but maybe it's me. If you wanna be vegetarian that's up to you though, just don't start lecturing me or being condescending or high and mighty about it. As for vegans, I really don't get, if you don't milk a cow it's going to get ill, surely by milking it you're doing a good thing. That being said, I try to eat good quality meat where I can, low quality for one, tastes bad and two the animal has had a poorer life, certainly don't agree with battery farming.

On the PETA note, I really hate them. With a passion. Bunch of hypocritical violent abusive and all around unpleasant people. I mean opposing the use of guide dogs, police dogs, rescue dogs (Why train dogs to save lives when they could be roaming the streets stray eating leftover... soya burgers)? Even pets? Zoos? (That's a great idea, lets release all elephants, loins and hippos into the wild, what could go wrong?). Medical testing (Lets be fair, it's kinda needed). They are deluded, power hungry and well, a bit dim if you ask me.

I wonder if they play Pokémon...

bendrawslife
March 29th, 2010, 01:38 PM
I've been a vegetarian for a little over 8 years. I can see both sides of the argument, but my reasoning is a bit complicated. There are tons of factors. So, right now, let's just say a little civil disobedience mixed with economical thinking and value of sentient life.

Also, I definitely encourage everyone to stay away from PETA. Like many morally-founded organizations, they took a good idea, and twisted and corrupted it. Not everyone, mind you, but you can't have tons of people in a group without someone not quite understanding the big picture.

Slyfy
March 29th, 2010, 01:55 PM
I don't eat meat.

Not for any "Nobel" reason.

Eating meat just seems... gross.

What if you cut a steak and you find a vein in there? X_X

Zeph.
March 30th, 2010, 08:35 AM
I'm wierd when it comes to food - I dislike a lot of fruit and vegetables but eat lots of meats o.O

But surely eating other animals is perfectly natural?

Eating meat just seems... gross.

Lots of things in life are gross, but they ensure our survival and welfare.

What if you cut a steak and you find a vein in there? X_X

Umm... meats are cut from the body in such a way to ensure things like that don't happen. That's just like saying what if you're eating a vegetable and find a root? Or a caterpillar crawling all over it - after all, it's been in the ground.

ILoveDragonite
March 30th, 2010, 11:01 AM
I'm a vegetarian and I join PETA. And what about u.
I'm a carnivore and i eat meat. It's a slow yet ingenious plan to evolve me into a dinosaur.

Nanaboo
March 30th, 2010, 04:10 PM
I've been vegetarian for 3 years now... but I can't say I support PETA because of all the animals they euthanize.
I'm all for animal rights though. I wouldn't even step on a snail on the sidewalk, or squish a spider in my house.

ILoveDragonite
March 30th, 2010, 09:26 PM
I've been vegetarian for 3 years now... but I can't say I support PETA because of all the animals they euthanize.
I'm all for animal rights though. I wouldn't even step on a snail on the sidewalk, or squish a spider in my house.
Erika really suits you then.

I don't see why i shouldn't eat meat and i'm glad to see no one is pressuring people to become vegan (Like what usually happens in these threads.)

Esper
March 30th, 2010, 09:57 PM
I don't see why i shouldn't eat meat and i'm glad to see no one is pressuring people to become vegan (Like what usually happens in these threads.)
I'd be happy to show you some of the reasons you shouldn't eat meat, or should at least cut down, but since that would be "pressuring" I won't, but I will say I'm open to talk with anyone who wants to know some of what goes on inside a veggie's brain. 'Cuz there be lots of different reasons.

ILoveDragonite
March 30th, 2010, 09:58 PM
I'd be happy to show you some of the reasons you shouldn't eat meat, or should at least cut down, but since that would be "pressuring" I won't, but I will say I'm open to talk with anyone who wants to know some of what goes on inside a veggie's brain. 'Cuz there be lots of different reasons.
Don't you wreck my blissful ignorance you tyrant.

And i mean really you call me out on that, but not him on this.
Really... No offense but I think Vegans have something wrong going in their mind. They are either insane or hypocrites at heart. If you were stuck in an island with only poisonous plants and cute bunnies that eat the plants which one would you eat?...

I, like every normal human, would eat the bunny. I'm wouldn't starve to death just because I think meat isn't meant to be eaten. Sorry kids, if you don't eat meat you are gonna seriously screw up your figure and you life. The only reason vegetarians exist is because of modern medicine. Even then you are nowhere as healthy as a meat-eater.

As for the best conclusion in the world: I sent PETA a Happy Meal through the mail.

Xebelleon
March 30th, 2010, 10:04 PM
I'm pescetarian.
Would be a boozetafarian if I could, LOL.

Esper
March 30th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Don't you wreck my blissful ignorance you tyrant.

And i mean really you call me out on that, but not him on this.
I want to believe you're jokingly-angry. I really do.

You brought up the whole pressuring thing so I figured I could say "Hey, this is sort of a thread about vegans and vegetarians, so does anyone want to actually hear from a vegetarian?"

I thought the point of this part of the forums was to, ya know, chat about things.

ILoveDragonite
March 30th, 2010, 10:31 PM
I want to believe you're jokingly-angry. I really do.

You brought up the whole pressuring thing so I figured I could say "Hey, this is sort of a thread about vegans and vegetarians, so does anyone want to actually hear from a vegetarian?"

I thought the point of this part of the forums was to, ya know, chat about things.
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Patchisou Yutohru
March 31st, 2010, 12:26 AM
Funny how this thread shows up now. For me, anyway.

I wouldn't call myself a vegetarian just yet. I have been practicing the life of a vegetarian for a few days now, though, through a lacto-vegetarian diet. I want to see if I will be able to last a month or so before I consider myself to be a vegetarian. It'd be hypocritical of me to reply with "Oh yeah, I'm a vegetarian" and then, unknowingly to myself now, three days later break and eat meat. Though I doubt I will that early, if at all. I'm pretty dedicated to this, despite what people I know are telling me. But the majority of my friends are vegetarians and I'm sure I'll be able to cope with it through their help and guidance.

...I've never had as much trouble understanding the words people are typing (and butchering completely) until this thread. Spell check anyone? :/

Zet
March 31st, 2010, 12:36 AM
While I don't have anything against vegetarians(and vegans), the only downside I see to this group of individuals is the mass consumption of every green plant(that's edible) which would damage the Earth itself and it's inhabitants. So who is the real murderer? meat eaters or the green eaters?

Though lately at dinner the meat is kind hard to eat because butchers usually soak the meat with water to rip people off for their money and it's really horrible to eat since it's all watery. Though sometimes the meat is too dry and is bleh to eat. D:

TheUltimateSacrifice
April 1st, 2010, 02:46 AM
I eat anything that moves and breathes.

silverdreams92
April 8th, 2010, 06:55 PM
I`ve been a vegetarian since November. It isn`t too hard, chicken sometimes tempts me, though.

Shiiny Pikachu
April 8th, 2010, 07:12 PM
Yum...nice tasty meat. vegetarians don't know what they're missing out on

shookie
April 8th, 2010, 08:16 PM
It's impossible to have the right amount of protein being vegetarian, unless you spend money on supplements.
Very common misconception. It's a matter of eating the right foods correctly and adjusting your diet, in most cases you don't have to buy any extra supplements.

I've been a full-fledged vegetarian for almost six years now, but I stopped eating red meat about eight/nine years ago. I didn't do it for ethical reasons, not that it isn't a concern of mine, it was more for health reasons and some others that I won't really divulge in. I'm not a fan or supporter of PETA, either.

Honestly, I do miss some dishes, like the tuna casserole my dad used to make, and turkey burgers. I absolutely hate when people try to taunt me with a cheeseburger and expect me to tear it out of their hand once they hear I'm a vegetarian.

Really... No offense but I think Vegans have something wrong going in their mind. They are either insane or hypocrites at heart. If you were stuck in an island with only poisonous plants and cute bunnies that eat the plants which one would you eat?...
If it was a life or death situation, I'd obviously pick the bunny. I'd feel stupidly guilty afterwards, but it's better than being dead.
I have a friend who's been a vegan for 15 years that would say the same thing. He, too, doesn't do it for ethical reasons, it's just how he was raised.

bugcatcherjason
April 8th, 2010, 08:54 PM
I have a question:

Why are some vegetarians (not vegans) allowed to eat fish? Is it a rule or more of a personal, ethical choice?

Gyarados Girl
April 9th, 2010, 12:37 AM
I've been vegan for the last five or so years and it's been going great.

I just can't justify contributing to the harm of other beings when I'm just in a situation where I don't need to harm them. Considering the only thing that I've even had to go out of my way to get is vitamin B12 and that problem is solved very easily, there's really no argument for anyone who lives with modern day conveniences besides themselves liking the taste of animal products, and that just doesn't do it for me.

Really... No offense but I think Vegans have something wrong going in their mind. They are either insane or hypocrites at heart. If you were stuck in an island with only poisonous plants and cute bunnies that eat the plants which one would you eat?...

I, like every normal human, would eat the bunny. I'm wouldn't starve to death just because I think meat isn't meant to be eaten.

The entire point is that we're not on the island. If you're clinging to life and don't get much choice in available meals, you've got justification. When you call us hypocrites because of what the vast majority of us would undoubtedly do in the extreme situation you described, you completely fail to take into account any sort of context. The fact that we're not trapped on the island with a very limited selection of food changes what is ethically justifiable.

When you live in modern society and can choose between pretty much anything, and still choose to harm another sentient being because you like the taste then I'd argue that's not so justified. Especially when the very fact that raising animals for food and food production is a much less efficient use of land especially when you consider that the animals eat more food than they produce.

Sorry kids, if you don't eat meat you are gonna seriously screw up your figure and you life.

No, you're not. You have to pay attention to what you eat, but if make sure you get your B12 and Omega 3, and eat a multitude of different fruits, vegetables, and grains your diet is going to be more healthy than one that consumes animal products. The fact of the matter is that the only vegans who have health issues are the ones who are only eating a couple different things which is going to be a problem for anyone.

The only reason vegetarians exist is because of modern medicine.

Not so much medicine as much as other modern advancements. The meat eaters generally benefit more from medicine with their enhanced cancer risk and whatnot. Veganism certainly wasn't practically possible centuries ago and isn't for most individuals in third-world countries and some of the less fortunate ones in modern countries, but that argument doesn't change anything for the vast majority of people who are able to regularly access the internet such as ourselves.

Even then you are nowhere as healthy as a meat-eater.

Incorrect. Maybe if they ignored the wonderful family of beans and lentils that would be the case, but as long as a vegan pays attention to their diet they're generally going to be quite healthy. I'd argue vegetarians don't even really have to pay *that* much attention because B12 is easier to get when you include dairy products and such.

Sneeze
April 9th, 2010, 04:47 AM
Quick question for vegetarians/vegans, do you own anything made of leather? Belt/Wallet/Hat/Et Cetera?

Lucy Lu
April 9th, 2010, 06:58 AM
Well as for me I am semi-vegetarian. I will eat some meat on occasion, but not all the time. I stay away from red meat. I eat mostly chicken, fish, and turkey. I been eating veggie burgers as well. I am doing this because I need to lose weight(also maintain it) and red meat has a lot of fat and cholesterol. While the others don't have that much. I know eating red meat can be good for you if you look for leaner cuts, but I am used to eating chicken and turkey anyway. So I really don't need red meat as part of my diet. And I love veggies. I eat them with all my meals I make.

Yamikarasu
April 9th, 2010, 07:09 AM
I have a friend who's vegan. I made her cookies for her birthday, made the effort to find a replacement for eggs, etc., and then found out I had used some obscure dairy product somewhere in the recipe a few days later. Oh well. She'll never know :P

I'm not a vegetarian. I like meat, and I'm not going to have someone guilt me into not eating steak. I'm all for not being a jerk to animals, but frankly, they're just animals, and so are we. Animals eat other animals, and humans have evolved to eat meat. Sure, we probably eat a lot more meat than is ideal to be healthy, and I do think it's a good idea to cut back for that reason.

My mom is a vegetarian, but only because of the supposed health benefits. Look, humans have eaten meat all throughout their existence because we have evolved on diets with meat, and it is natural to eat meat. Forcing yourself to not eat meat is unnatural. That's all there is to it. There's nothing bad about that at all, and like I said I'm good friends with vegans and vegetarians so I don't mind it at all. It takes discipline, and I do admire that aspect of it.

ShinyTreecko
April 9th, 2010, 09:52 AM
I don't really like eating animals, but when I'm down in Tuamotu Archipelago in French Polynesia, the only fruit you can find are coconuts, although some people grow other vegeteables and fruit in their garden :) So there are places in the world where you are forced to eat animals! When I am in Luxembourg, I avoid eating meat as much as I can, but I am still not a vegetarian! :)

shookie
April 9th, 2010, 12:49 PM
Why are some vegetarians (not vegans) allowed to eat fish? Is it a rule or more of a personal, ethical choice?
It's not a matter of being allowed to eat or to not eat fish, it's a personal choice. Most "true" vegetarians say that those who eat white meat (chicken, turkey) and fish aren't really vegetarians, though. If you still eat fish but no other meat, then you'd be a pescetarian, iirc.

Quick question for vegetarians/vegans, do you own anything made of leather? Belt/Wallet/Hat/Et Cetera?
I don't, or I at least try to avoid anything made out of leather, mostly for the sake of irony. I love the smell, though. >_>

Izzy_
April 9th, 2010, 12:51 PM
I'm a pesco vegetarian and have been for about 4 years? I don't see it as a problem really :/

I just can't stand eating poor chickens, pigs, etc. I had a pet chicken and my uncle has pigs so I have attachment reasons

Serene Grace
April 9th, 2010, 12:57 PM
I eat meat and love it. Being a vegetarian/vegan doesn't even tempt me.

Mattysaurus
April 9th, 2010, 01:28 PM
I'm an omnivore too. But I like meat more than vegetables. I don't like the taste. Ughh.

mondays suck
April 9th, 2010, 01:29 PM
I am a carnivore, and don't think that's ever going to change. Just because it happens to taste a lot better to me. I've never been a big fan of vegetables, and when I once tried this vegetarian meat substitute stuff, I found it horrible. Of course, there is some cruelty behind it, but isn't cutting off plants cruel to them as well? There is just no way to survive without cruelty against other forms of live, so why not choosing the tastiest meal out of them?

Esper
April 9th, 2010, 05:15 PM
There is just no way to survive without cruelty against other forms of live, so why not choosing the tastiest meal out of them?
Things have to die, and it's cruel, yes, but killing 10 chickens is less cruel than killing 100. That's still significant.

Quick question for vegetarians/vegans, do you own anything made of leather? Belt/Wallet/Hat/Et Cetera?
I have a leather belt. I'm actually wearing it right now. But I bought it used so no additional harm done.

Sneeze
April 9th, 2010, 07:39 PM
I have a leather belt. I'm actually wearing it right now. But I bought it used so no additional harm done.

Going by that, what if someone like bought a burger, ate half and then decided to leave the rest, would you eat it? No additional harm, right?

Esper
April 9th, 2010, 08:00 PM
Going by that, what if someone like bought a burger, ate half and then decided to leave the rest, would you eat it? No additional harm, right?
Aside from the fact that eating someone's leftovers is pretty nasty and people shouldn't order more food than they can eat, yes, you have the right idea. I can't speak for other vegetarians or vegans, but I think it's stupid for an animal to be killed and then have part of it go to waste. The cow is already dead; the damage is done. For me it's about relative harm. Of course there would be even less harm for that burger not to be made in the first place.

If someone made me food and didn't know I was vegetarian (which I work hard to keep from happening) and there was meat in it I might eat it if there wasn't someone else I could offer it to or some other way to keep it from being wasted. This has only happened once that I can remember in all the years I've been vegetarian though.

The Cynic
April 10th, 2010, 04:56 AM
I have a question:

Why are some vegetarians (not vegans) allowed to eat fish? Is it a rule or more of a personal, ethical choice?

They are called Pescetarians. They eat fish and other seafood but exclude other meat and poultry.