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Muffin™
March 29th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Do you think toys, games, movies, ect. are getting TOO kid-friendly?




Discuss

ILoveDragonite
March 29th, 2010, 05:06 PM
No.

Discussion over. ^_^

.Gamer
March 29th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Yes, its ridiculous, for instance in HG/SS "OMG NUU GAMBLEENG KIDZ R GUNA GO 2 VEEGAS AND SP3ND MONEES!!!1!!" ~___~ Raise your kids you lazy parents.

Discussion NOT over.

Tree_x
March 29th, 2010, 05:27 PM
Haha :3 Depends on what your watching our playing our etc :3
Personally i do not care if it is good its good not my job to raise the worlds children to some factious moral standard there children of the Internet they i have seen worse

zhfac
March 29th, 2010, 05:30 PM
Well, I know that some people let T.V baby sit their kids, but I'm kinda on the fence on this question; aren't toy's and kid's shows meant to kiddy?

Throat
March 29th, 2010, 05:32 PM
There're toys, movies and games exclusively for adults and there're the ones for kids, surely.

SIN1488
March 30th, 2010, 01:41 AM
No, haven't you ever heard of the vibrating Harry Potter broomstick? I'm not even joking either, it was a real toy. :O

sgspacemonkey
March 30th, 2010, 03:57 AM
Kids have their own stuff and so do adults. I like to think of games however, as an adult medium. The consoles/PC's and software costs a lot and it's pretty delicate. I don't think I'd be happy letting a kid mess about in my room, lol. (Actually, I forbid my cat from going in, and she acts a lot like a toddler. I can just imagine the claw marks in the shiny exterior of my PS3... eek!) Games as well are sort of a way to allow adults to continue to enjoy playing after feeling forced to abandon their childish toys. Anyway, there are equivalents in both movies and games, but I reckon more adult titles do exist in these genres. Toys on the other-hand, is a word I associate with things like Barbie and My Little Pony. >>

Sneeze
March 30th, 2010, 04:08 AM
Remember the good old days when games used to come under the toys section of the Argos catalogue, eh? ;) How times have changed. :P

sgspacemonkey
March 30th, 2010, 04:10 AM
Remember the good old days when games used to come under the toys section of the Argos catalogue, eh? ;) How times have changed. :P

Heh, yeah, I use to buy them from Toyz R Us.

Heart's Soul
March 30th, 2010, 05:57 AM
Heh, stuff is now evil because of parents getting rid of good. They love to make innuendo.

Jolene
March 30th, 2010, 08:58 AM
No. I think that the opposite is happening. Pop songs are now full of sexual references. TV shows are also full of sexual references. Videogames are violent and depressing.

Heart's Soul
March 30th, 2010, 09:07 AM
Yes, but we're meaning non-prime time basic television and E-rated video games. But, I agree, we have too many M-rated games now.

Prince_of_Light
March 30th, 2010, 09:09 AM
No. I think that the opposite is happening. Pop songs are now full of sexual references. TV shows are also full of sexual references. Videogames are violent and depressing.

I question your choice of media if you put all this stuff in a blanket statement like that. =/

zhfac
March 30th, 2010, 09:53 AM
No, haven't you ever heard of the vibrating Harry Potter broomstick? I'm not even joking either, it was a real toy. :O
Uh, what the heck..? Oh how that "industry" never ceases to amaze me.

Muffin™
March 30th, 2010, 10:53 AM
I made this because I got a nostogic blast of candy ciggerettes... [They changed it to "Candy sticks." WHAT. A. FAIL.]

General Bravo
March 30th, 2010, 12:37 PM
MW2 is beast. Don't be hatin on them M-rated games.

An obvious example would be the Pokemon anime(used to be awesome, now it sucks poké-balls)and HGSS(all that bs with real game corners being replaced with that annoying-ass Voltorb flip game.
But then again, kids may be getting exposed to more crap earlier. I once had to babysit a kid who was like 7. I was trying to tell him to stop chugging soda(mainly because it was mine), and he said "f*** you" and punched me in the, um, area.
Clearly, stuff intended for children is getting more and moar shielded, but kids are getting more violent and profane, as well as doing stuff that teenagers do(ex: sex, drugs, drinking, gun using). It's all just ****ed up.

Objection!
March 30th, 2010, 12:53 PM
Yes. You know what I think? Companies make their shows, games, ect. several times kiddier than they were years ago, perhaps to make up for all the bad things. Kids that are intended to watch these shows get bored, fast, and turn to what older people are watching, especially when they have older siblings.

Older people watch more mature shows, and thus the wet clay (children) is molded. Sometimes it can be undone, but other times the clay hardens.

MW2 is beast. Don't be hatin on them M-rated games.I once had to babysit a kid who was like 7. I was trying to tell him to stop chugging soda(mainly because it was mine), and he said "f*** you" and punched me in the, um, area.

Yeah... I used to babysit a kid six years younger than me, and he always liked to get on my nerves. He knew that the only way to hurt me was to hit me there, and he was about waist-level. My reflexes are pretty admirable now.

Muffin™
March 30th, 2010, 01:20 PM
Nickelodeon is now what I call "Teendramalodian."

Jolene
March 30th, 2010, 01:27 PM
Yes. You know what I think? Companies make their shows, games, ect. several times kiddier than they were years ago, perhaps to make up for all the bad things. Kids that are intended to watch these shows get bored, fast, and turn to what older people are watching, especially when they have older siblings.

You seem to be suggesting that "kid-friendly" is synonymous with "bad". Which isn't true at all.

I'm willing to bet that most normal adults would rather watch something kid-friendly like Star Wars than some deep psychological drama.

.little monster
March 30th, 2010, 03:02 PM
^ That.

Yes, its ridiculous, for instance in HG/SS "OMG NUU GAMBLEENG KIDZ R GUNA GO 2 VEEGAS AND SP3ND MONEES!!!1!!" ~___~ Raise your kids you lazy parents.

Discussion NOT over.
Way to not even know why they don't have it. Most countries where they sell the game have made gambling illegal. And the law extends to gambling in games. Thus, it would be cheaper to remove it all together.

I don't think things are getting too kid-friendly, I think we are all just growing up.

Yoshimi
March 30th, 2010, 04:21 PM
I actually think more video games are becoming more violent with the advancement of technology, due to them doing it just cause they have the opportunity to do so.
Just look at the top 10 games on the Xbox 360, and look at the top 10 SNES games and tell me what you see.
As for movies, I definitely think so. Most movies back then usually had nudity; it was actually much more common since people saw it as a normal thing rather than something to be shocked by.
Toys? I don't even understand. Toys are meant to be childish in the first place, so I don't know how they can get more childish.

But, not that it matters in the first place. I find childish themes to be much more enjoyable than mature themes; I don't care about social segregation, the disturbing impact of war, and political corruption as much as catching them all.

twocows
March 30th, 2010, 06:39 PM
You seem to be suggesting that "kid-friendly" is synonymous with "bad". Which isn't true at all.

I'm willing to bet that most normal adults would rather watch something kid-friendly like Star Wars than some deep psychological drama.
That misrepresents a number of things. People don't like Star Wars because it's kid friendly (which, in itself, is arguable; there's a lot of violence in that movie). People like it because it tells a great story and has great characters. Likewise, if said psychological drama manages to be entertaining, many people will like it. And I'm sure you could find many adults that dislike Star Wars and would rather watch something else; I find the implication that these adults are "abnormal" rather offensive (I'm not one, though; I love Star Wars).

That's not to say kid-friendly is synonymous with bad, though; nobody said or implied that. The problem is when developers are too afraid to touch sensitive themes out of fear of some sort of backlash. A classic example of this is sex; you'll find all sorts of TV shows with people shooting, bleeding, and even dying, but you'll never see sex or even nudity on TV. I dare you to try to find a commercial that mentions the word "penis;" none of them do, not even the ones selling products FOR that organ. In Pokemon, the example is "Gamblers;" they changed them to "Gamers" to avoid a potential backlash from people that might think "gambling" is an inappropriate theme for children.

Mattysaurus
March 30th, 2010, 07:46 PM
I live in Vegas and I don't have the urge to go gamble. I mean, blah. I'd much rather spend it on a.. show or something. Something to go and hang out with my friends. But that's just me. I don't know how the other kids here are and I don't know how the kids where you guys live are.

Åzurε
March 30th, 2010, 09:12 PM
It seems lots of people have messed up priorities, and that may be part of the dissonance.

You know, a kid may shout "f*** you", flip you the bird and kick you in the balls, but more often than not it's because he wants his fire truck back. It's just repeating what he's exposed to. I don't think it's toys that are the issue- kids are supposed to be naive to a point- it's them getting exposed to the stuff that isn't really meant for them, but they have access to it anyway.

Anxiety.
March 31st, 2010, 06:32 PM
I think there's too much for kids. I mean, they need all of this stuff, but we're sheltering them far too much. I don't think they should see sex at that age, or serious violence, either, but maybe you should... hint onto it as they get older? Ease them into it?

Oh and, yeah, I'm one of those people who would much rather watch some physcological movie, filled with great twists and one that really squeezes your brain up until the end when its all explained and you kinda go 'Ahhh... wait, I need to watch it again' and then, even knowing the twist, you can still enjoy it just as much.
That's my kind of movie.

Melody
March 31st, 2010, 06:41 PM
I agree that SOME companies which make kid-aimed products, productions and games tend to overstep their authority and enforce conservative values too strongly.

Nintendo of America is guilty of this and so is Apple.

Honesly, I don't think these companies should care if the minority of parents/conservative whackjobs are *****ing about something in what they're making to be 'wrong'. If the parents don't think it's good for their kids, they have the power to not let their kids have/see that stuff. The company won't lose much revenue. >_>

Bluerang1
April 1st, 2010, 02:19 PM
No. Let's all stop growing too fast already.

I Laugh at your Misfortune!
April 1st, 2010, 03:34 PM
I think in movies, there's often a blurring of the line between "for kids" and "for the whole family".

Weatherman, Kiyoshi
April 2nd, 2010, 01:30 PM
Looking back at original series/etc.,
I think yes, Pokemon has gotten a tad bit more kid friendly then we remember it.

The anime especially.

So until the anime gets to be like:
'"OH MY GOODNESS, LET'S GO TO SUNYSHORE CITY AND GET THE BEACON BADGE BY BEFRIENDING THE POKEMON WITH GUMDROPS THEN GO HAVE A TEA PARTY WITH BIG DODRIO YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY"

We really have nothing to fret about.

Raichu1988
April 2nd, 2010, 01:45 PM
I think in some senses maybe there's more kiddie stuff. But, at the same time as others mentioned, there is also more M and more adult themed things as well. Just look at even teen programming.. compare the sexual content from Gossip Girl back to Dawson's Creek or the old 90210 to the new one. I guess it really depends on what you're talking about here, too.

Pokémon becoming more kiddie is not so unusual since most people tend to think of it as a 'kids' thing anyway. I wouldn't say music is very kid friendly anymore since everyday pop music and R&B is becoming very sexual and provocative as compared to the 90's like early Britney Spears or Backstreet Boys. Movies are a different story because sometimes you can be watching a family friendly movie and hear a random curse word thrown in or some nudity, and other times there will be completely over done family movies where there's nothing provocative or bad in them at all for kids.

As for kids being more disrespectful, or people worrying kids will gamble.. that has nothing to really do with what they play on a video game or see in a cartoon. I think it more has to do with the fact that adults expose them to violence with M games already (my cousin who's 5 has played Grand theft Auto...) and R movies or they have older siblings who like to listen to rap and swear all day long as long as they're breathing. I really think it all depends on what that particular child is around at times and how the parents affect the behavior by teaching them not to pick up those bad habits at a young age.

DXrobots
April 5th, 2010, 12:56 AM
Being a toy collector I have noticed toys have become a lot more kid friendly like dulling down sharp edges for no reason kids aren't stupid they not going to purposely jam things into their eyes

loliwin
April 5th, 2010, 01:42 AM
The Wii is getting games that are kid-friendly. Like the only new games that I see on the Wii are Party games. :(

Pokemoerules
April 5th, 2010, 01:43 AM
What do you mean TOO kid friendly?

loliwin
April 5th, 2010, 01:46 AM
What do you mean TOO kid friendly?

Well maybe I just mean kid-friendly, not too kid-friendly. :nervous: I should edit my post.

Blue Nocturne
April 5th, 2010, 06:29 AM
I think that the norm is becoming more kid-friendly and what is considered 'for kids' is what i would consider 'for todlers' a few years ago.

Final Fantasy is a great example of how much tighter we have gotten about what is acceptable for young children. FFVII was 11+ (in the UK) and contained violence, blood, swearing, you name it. FFXIII contains only one of those things, Violence, and yet is a 16+.

The anime has also become less hardcore (not that it ever was) in an attempt to prolong childrens naivety. In the early series we had very violent fearows and pokemon hunting, among other (albeit rather unexplored) themes such as the use of pokemon for food. it was kid-friendly for the time, today that would probably be an 18+ for show only after midnight. The villainous teams in the games have become increasingly more far-fetched. Team Rocket seemed a bit like a threat because their goal was plausible. To go from a lust for money or whatever to wanting to make the sea larger to wanting to reshape space and time makes the games more cartoony, and more light-hearted as a result. Even the rivals have become less threatening, Silver looks nowhere near as menacing as in Generation II, and Petrel (the rocket executive) looks about as threatening as a bathroom sponge.

Yet we have rappers and R&B singers bragging about their money and their boy/girlfriends and themselves in a rather sexual way, yet they don't have one of them sticker things.

To be honest, its not the rating that affects me, i make my own judgement about TV and have done since i was about six. It's when companies change things that were once good to fit these stupid guidelines. What im trying to say is that the bbfc or OFCOM or whomever should lay off a bit, and let parents and children make their own judgements, because they're more responsible than what they get credit for

Captain Hobo.
April 5th, 2010, 09:12 AM
No, the movies arn't getting to kid friendly. They toys are in the middle. The game aren't to kid friendly anymore.

SIN1488
April 6th, 2010, 03:12 PM
Being a toy collector I have noticed toys have become a lot more kid friendly like dulling down sharp edges for no reason kids aren't stupid they not going to purposely jam things into their eyes

Maybe not their own eyes, but....... (x_o)

Alseatao
April 9th, 2010, 10:19 PM
Thats the exact reason I din't last 1 gym leader in HGSS :(...... wish I'd pushed further though.

Im anticipating the new Black and White ones to be atleast a bit more mature themed.

♣Gawain♣
April 9th, 2010, 10:29 PM
^ I'm already fretting all over it.

Not all though, but we can all send our comments to the different movie and toy companies. -_-'

Druid
April 9th, 2010, 10:39 PM
Not really. All the little kids I know want to play violent video games instead of watch Looney Toons. Of course, things that are supposed to be kid friendly are going a bit to far, like the guy in Pokemon no longer saying "ha, this gym is full of girls. :3" (I think they changed that). Sometimes you have to expose a kid to something that might have a little bit of an impact on them, as it makes them have a more realistic perception of the world as well as less surprise when they learn, at age ten, that you can't go into a casino and expect to play minesweeper.

I am being a bit harsh, though. Kids shouldn't be scared when they're little, and they should be able to have fun before they have to deal with the sad parts of our world. With all the exposure they get from the world around them, I'm personally glad that they don't have to see that on TV and in their games.

SIN1488
April 10th, 2010, 06:59 AM
like the guy in Pokemon no longer saying "ha, this gym is full of girls. :3" (I think they changed that).

It seems to me like they should have just changed it so a kid NPC was saying it, that way it might not offend people. But I mean, come on, the dirty old man joke and stereotype is something they are going to most likely be exposed to some day anyway. And it's not like it's hurting them, it's text some character in a video game says, big deal.

I think with a lot of these things, we notice them because we are familiar with what's considered "dirty" and too old for kids. But the kids themselves don't really see them that way most of the time.

Twisted Cuteness
April 10th, 2010, 07:12 AM
I don't really consider pokemon to be turning kid friendly as it is already a KIDS GAME :B

Åzurε
April 10th, 2010, 08:33 AM
Final Fantasy is a great example of how much tighter we have gotten about what is acceptable for young children. FFVII was 11+ (in the UK) and contained violence, blood, swearing, you name it. FFXIII contains only one of those things, Violence, and yet is a 16+.

Ehh, that may have more to do with the graphical capabilities and the fact that the rating systems were still pretty screwy back then.

the guy in Pokemon no longer saying "ha, this gym is full of girls. :3" (I think they changed that).

Yeah. I still think he should have stuttered or something.

"I love this Gym. It's full of... uh, strong trainers! Riiight. That's the ticket."