PC Clone Boards

[Rukario]

PC Memebers, Users, and Fans watch out for and report any messages, PM's and so on you get to join these new Pokemon Boards springing up all over the place..

they are rip-offs of PC and are trying to steal you away by offering you modship, admin or whatever.. THEY think they (will) have a better board then PC yet they won't stand on their own.. they have to come here and spam to get members..

I suggest you all ignore those types of messages, and just go on about your posting, etc. here at PC.. the #1 Pokemon web based community!

Comments and experiences about this topic welcome..

[Carlito-san]

thanks for the warning steve...they told me i coul be a praetor if i joined.now i wont.

[riginality Fails]

i saw other sites with th e same type of layout, never tried to log in though looked dogdey

[Rukario]

anyone offering 'Praetor' or any variation of that is infringing on PC's copyright.. steer clear of them..

PC INVENTED the Praetor posistion as a half smod, half admin to allow those users to do more admin jobs.. any other forum using it is stealing from PC.

[Shiney]

I'm cheating to be online, so don't expect me to post in this thread again.

I made a forum myaelf, where some friends of mine from pc and other places could relax and have some pointless fun with no rules, but that was a while ago, and the forum is long dead. I'd just like to add that not all of those "clone" forums are trying to steal from PC.

[Brittany]

I have joined some of the other boards, but they will never remove my loyalty to PC

Yea, and I have noticed the simularities between PC and some other forums. People need to get some originality....

[Gardy]

If I get any pms with an invite to join I'll report. and anyways I wouldn't join I already have my home.

[FauxCivility]

Ummm...I have my own forums which are Pokemon, and so can everyone else. I agree PM invites aren't good, but are you scared of a little competition?!?! Come on now!


Little forums usually die quick anyway, unless they are actually on vB or something, but I don't think this is an uber important issue. =/

[Rukario]

this isn't about other Pokemon forums.. it's about 'cloning PC' (copying the idea, topics, and so on) and the little messages posted here at PC to help them get new members.. PC isn't afraid of competition at all.. in fact we encourage it (anything that help teh Pokemon community helps PC)

[Claire]

Pokejungle, using someone elses forum to advertise your own is wrong. Try to get members by your own merits, not using the popularity of another forum :P

[Rukario]

Pokejungle, using someone elses forum to advertise your own is wrong. Try to get members by your own merits, not using the popularity of another forum :P
exactly my point!

if these clones wanna exist, more power to them.. but get your own members.. stop bugging ours!

[FauxCivility]

Everyone gangs up on me ~_~

I use the PC format for my forums....XP It works......Except I didn't include a nasty TDome. *GLARE*

[I didn't make "my" forums. bug tmbjr about it!]

[Rukario]

hmmmm, no one is ganging up on you.. u can make ur own forums.. but the PC format... hmm thats a bit iffy..

What?? No TDome? bad, bad pokejungle..

j/k :P

[Hiroshi Sotomura]

It's best that people get ideas off the names of our forums. Sure, maybe I seem like that, although mForums is quite onto it's own business.

We BAN PMing of FORUMS, and posting of it here at PC. It's stressed well and anyone who thinks about it WILL BE BANNED TEMPORARILY OR INDEFINITELY.

[FauxCivility]

I have never used PMs to get members for my board...that's good. [Hint: More rep! J/K]

Anyway.....

On my boards, we actually have a forum advertising board. I really don't mind, it lets people advertise, and keep annoying PMs away.

[xCloudx]

I hate clone boards,never think of their own things. I'll never join a board a board that's exactly the same as another one.

[ravenstorture]

I have a question to Steve. How exactly did PC Copyright the word/position of 'praetor' exactly?

[PichuSecretBase]

We made it up. We can't copyright a word but if we made it it's copyright. If i draw a stick person and name him kdaj;dskf;k then he's mine and you cant take him and make another one named kdaj;dskf;k. See? Other wise it's cloinin'

[AZSupraT]

I just posted somthing on one of the 'clone boards' (Pokeboards, lol, how origional)

I dont think they will like it ;)

[PichuSecretBase]

Go K-... I forgot how to spell your name

Anyway, you showed 'em!

[AZSupraT]

lol, its 'Casey'

But, really i think my post was pointless, but whatever, atleast they know now that there being watched..

[Arcanine]

anyone offering 'Praetor' or any variation of that is infringing on PC's copyright.. steer clear of them..

PC INVENTED the Praetor posistion as a half smod, half admin to allow those users to do more admin jobs.. any other forum using it is stealing from PC.Steve the word Praetor is not PC's. Yes PC might have been the first to have it as the first Sub-Admin spot but Praetor is a real word.

An annually elected magistrate of the ancient Roman Republic, ranking below but having approximately the same functions as a consul. I just posted somthing on one of the 'clone boards' (Pokeboards, lol, how origional)

I dont think they will like it ;) PokeBoards is not a PC clone V-Road.
A PC clone is a forum that made a copy of all/some/most the forums on PC (same names same descriptions and everything). And PokeBoards is not a copy.

[AZSupraT]

there and Idea getter... sorry.

[Claire]

Pokeboard has similar games and everything -hurt and heal, the one above, and everything..plus pair-ups and more..

[Koroku]

Pokeboard may have used a similar forum structure to PC, but it's common to group similar forums together in categories, no?

And I find it quite rude when people join just to say "You copied us! And HERE (http://myforumlink.com) is the forum you copied from!"

That's getting rather low.

Edit: Claire, that's called "Forum Games" you'll be able to find them everywhere.

[ravenstorture]

Very unprofessional, don't you think?

[AZSupraT]

Pokeboard has similar games and everything -hurt and heal, the one above, and everything..plus pair-ups and more..
thanks! cuz thats what I meant

[Koroku]

That's stuff that members put at any board they want. SPPF has a Pair-Up thread... does that mean they're copying you? (Or you copied them?)

[ravenstorture]

Just because it is on your board does that mean that you own it and no one else?

[Toothache]

Just because it is on your board does that mean that you own it and no one else?

Actually, for certain things like logos, it does. But for the actual forum content, such as the other games, there's nothing legally wrong with duplicating it in another forum. Why not enjoy the same games in every forum you go to? Why not debate points with two different sets of people.

Honestly, if duplicating threads in different forums was a crime, I'm sure most of the people who post in more than one forum would be guilty in some form or another.

[AZSupraT]

Actually, for certain things like logos, it does. But for the actual forum content, such as the other games, there's nothing legally wrong with duplicating it in another forum. Why not enjoy the same games in every forum you go to? Why not debate points with two different sets of people.

Honestly, if duplicating threads in different forums was a crime, I'm sure most of the people who post in more than one forum would be guilty in some form or another.
There not(well i wasnt atleast) talking about threads, go ahead, make any type of thread you want ,there is no crime in that. The thing what I saw was how it was layed out.

[Arcanine]

Pokeboard has similar games and everything -hurt and heal, the one above, and everything..plus pair-ups and more..
Well that's threads, there is no copyright on threads. Like JK said SPPF has a pair-up thread (I am kind of sure we started our pair-up thread first) but we can't stop the making of threads.

[Koroku]

There not(well i wasnt atleast) talking about threads, go ahead, make any type of thread you want ,there is no crime in that. The thing what I saw was how it was layed out.
Look at it again: do we have the same layout as PC?

I grouped my forums quite differently. -_-

[ravenstorture]

I understand, Toothache. I was talking about threads in my post. Kinda thought that was understood.

[Toothache]

Look at it again: do we have the same layout as PC?

I grouped my forums quite differently. -_-

Actually, I've been to have a look for the first time... and the layout does seem somewhat similar. It's not an exact duplicate of PC. But then, when you're talking about two forums with exactly the same topics and content, you have to expect some similarities. So, the way PC and Pokeboards are layed out is different, because that's the only thing that can really be different, since you're both dealing with exactly the same content and subject matter.

[AZSupraT]

Look at it again: do we have the same layout as PC?

I grouped my forums quite differently. -_-
wasnt talking about the layout, but I have come to realize that NONE OF THIS is ever going to get anywhere. Might aswell stop posting in the thread and let whatever forums do whatever.

[Toothache]

wasnt talking about the layout, but I have come to realize that NONE OF THIS is ever going to get anywhere. Might aswell stop posting in the thread and let whatever forums do whatever.

That's actually the smartest thing that's been said in this post.

[Koroku]

wasnt talking about the layout, but I have come to realize that NONE OF THIS is ever going to get anywhere. Might aswell stop posting in the thread and let whatever forums do whatever.
Sorry, meant forum layout. As in what forums are where. :/


But yeah... let the forums be... if they want to copy PC *Which I know some are* then let 'em.

[Rukario]

this thread isn't here to flame any other boards... it's her to serve notice to PC members that they need to be aware of spammers and that some of these boards are trying (very hard, i may add) to get members.. including spamming other forums.

nothing is wrong opening another forum, or having 'similar' topics.. but a direct copy of our 'ways' and specific topics is ummm well, too much.

just be aware and all that..

[Zapchu]

If the others boards have PC members on it, it is like PC is growing and spreading out everywhere. People come here to advertise because PC is home to a lot of friendly members. Someone has told me about other boards before, but they aren't as fun as PC and they are usually emtpy and it is annoying to make new friends especially when everyone ignores you. Also, I would never leave PC, I'm attached to it. @_@; Don't worry about copycats, they are bound to die out anyways, people will join...then see that there is no one online usually and the topics are slow...then they will eventually stop posting.

I say just let the other boards be, you guys can't be saying "YOU COPIED ME". This is a free country, well ...at least the United States is. If you have no signifigant copyrights on things, you can not say you own it.

Ending Statement:
As long as I am alive, PC will always exist and I will always be a member of it.

[Kylie-chan]

We made it up. We can't copyright a word but if we made it it's copyright. If i draw a stick person and name him kdaj;dskf;k then he's mine and you cant take him and make another one named kdaj;dskf;k. See? Other wise it's cloinin'

If you followed copyright laws, e.g. for writing and book titles, etc., you made it up, you have to copyright it legally.

There ain't no unspoken law it's copyrighted.

Just means either ya love PC's ideas and wish you'd thought of them, or are a copycat. Not necessarily.

And yeah I got the idea for my boards - both - from other boards. Mine are different.

and I let people advertise their forums on my board. It DOES help keep the 'noying PMs and posts away.

Also, most of us don't use PMs to advertise our forums.

I say I'll give them a mod possie if they want when they join because I need mods.

Not because I'm a lurer.


Ahem, we aren't all perfect or terribly iniquitous.

Also, Zapchu, the way some of these "friendly members" treat me, I'm going back to Serebii if they don't back off.

Friendly members... not all are friendly... The only reason I stay here is cos of Moonlight Shadow and Ninetales_001 (can't log in to his Serebii account)...

[Illyria]

If the others boards have PC members on it, it is like PC is growing and spreading out everywhere. People come here to advertise because PC is home to a lot of friendly members. Someone has told me about other boards before, but they aren't as fun as PC and they are usually emtpy and it is annoying to make new friends especially when everyone ignores you. Also, I would never leave PC, I'm attached to it. @_@; Don't worry about copycats, they are bound to die out anyways, people will join...then see that there is no one online usually and the topics are slow...then they will eventually stop posting.

I say just let the other boards be, you guys can't be saying "YOU COPIED ME". This is a free country, well ...at least the United States is. If you have no signifigant copyrights on things, you can not say you own it.

Ending Statement:
As long as I am alive, PC will always exist and I will always be a member of it.
*sigh* I'm getting kinda annoyed. Here is something I posted on PB...
Hey guys, I just thought this was rather important, after reading this thread. I hope you members of PC will see this.

Look, I have nothing against PC. The only people I know of who do are Greg and Kimi. But anyways, that doesn't mean we're trying to be rivals to PC. We have similar forums, so what? Satoshi-kun's forum is also similar.

Another thing, we're not trying to steal members, especially not by offering them power. I asked Greg if I could help out, and he let me be a moderator. As far as I know, most of the people invited are friends with their referrers.

Also, we don't have Praetors. And if we did, what's wrong with the name? It's an official word in the English dictionary.

And finally, please don't come over here spamming. Do we do that to you? No we don't. As I said before, the only people who we invite (as far as I know) are friends of the referrers.

I'm sorry about this guys, but I'm just trying to end the flame war before it gets any further out of hand. If Greg or anybody else here has anything helpful to add, don't hesitate. Thanks for reading.

- Kyo

P.S. The main reason for this thread is that the one on PC was locked. Sorry again. :(
In short, I wish you guys would stop saying how the board is going to die. I still respect you guys, but I wish you would chill out and realise that we're not commiting hate crimes against PC. There's no law saying that Greg isn't allowed to own a Pokemon forum.

Sorry if this post seems at all harsh, but as I said before, I'm just trying to end the flame war before it goes too far, because I love both forums. :(

[aaaaaa]

I wish I was immature enough to leave because I can't boss the admins around.
Sorry, but it had to be said. You wanna go make your own forum? Go do it without leeching off of PC, and if you say you're gonna leave, just do it instead of lingering only for the purposes of advertising -_-
After all PC did for you, to stab it murderously in the back is just..low.
That's my piece on ONE of the particular forums.

As for the others, well...soon enough people will realise that they can't just paint their own Mona Lisa, and will come back.

[クリス]

Kyogre-Chan, I think the issue had already been brought to a close. =\

[Professor Oak]

I cannnot believe that the creators of the "clone boards" would be brazen enough to come to the Pokemon Community to try and gain members, and that they are even utilizing the private messaging system to attempt to do so. However wrong I may feel this is, I still find that there are certain liberties that the creators of these "clone boards" still have...

If they are stealing pure, copyrighted content (such as the layout) then what they are doing is more than wrong. It is illegal. However, you must keep in mind that an idea may not be copyrighted. Therefore, the "pair-up" idea and "similar" games should not be included in this issue. Especially if the games are word based (We cannot do anything about those). We, as a community, should just think them when it comes to things such as these. Let us create better games and formulate new, inovative ideas (some which we may then copyright, if they are of physical nature ). If we stay at least one step ahead of the competition (and I know we can stay farther ahead then that ;) ) and expose the culprites (by reporting them, for instance), then it won't matter. After all, we are the strongest Pokemon based community on the web. I wouldn't be bothered by the actual competition.

As for me, the emergence of these "wannabe boards" has revitalized my commitment to the [i]only real Pokemon Community :). After the boards went down (or were hacked...I cannot remember which), I got a tad bit discouraged and my visitation of the board became limited (as you can see by my extremely low post count). Now I plan to be more active (whenever possible....CET school work can be intense). So the "clone board" have actually had the adverse effect on me.

Please read and consider what I have stated above. Thanks you.

Professor Oak- Proud member of the PC since at least the year 2000

[Imakuni?]

I found a forum that was JUST like pc, sept it was invision.
it was called "The PoKeCoMmUnItY"
pretty cheesy eh?

[ravenstorture]

Incase you two didn't read before, there is no need to post in here anymore. The problem has been taken care of.

[Geometric-sama]

An annually elected magistrate of the ancient Roman Republic, ranking below but having approximately the same functions as a consul.

There you go, Abby can be a consul if she can't think of anything else :P

[Kylie-chan]

Well that's threads, there is no copyright on threads. Like JK said SPPF has a pair-up thread (I am kind of sure we started our pair-up thread first) but we can't stop the making of threads.

Right... Well, we are talking about clone boards, not threads...

Also well I might be leaving (talking to kairi? I think) because of the mods... so I must be immature... but the things they say... also cos this board suffers from mega ONLINE SLOTH...

Perhaps to stop spammers (I. Am. Such. A. Hypocrite.) they should lock this and do something helpful... sorry but some of their "constructive critiscism" ain't that constructive...

[Illyria]

Guess I misunderstood. I was just kinda annoyed by what Casey did, sorry.
Also well I might be leaving (talking to kairi? I think) because of the mods... so I must be immature... but the things they say... also cos this board suffers from mega ONLINE SLOTH...

Perhaps to stop spammers (I. Am. Such. A. Hypocrite.) they should lock this and do something helpful... sorry but some of their "constructive critiscism" ain't that constructive...
Uh, don't mean to be rude, but what does that have to do with other boards? O_o

[Cool Cr@cker]

Well Lottaa other boards come up copying Pc and all but anyway they never last????
And steve praetor is not copyright.OK!butu guys got the idea first.
DP seriously dont spam and lets get back on topic!

[Arcanine]

There you go, Abby can be a consul if she can't think of anything else :P Was that just a little edited from my post on the last page? XD



But anyway I am going to lock this thread because now it just turned into a thread to flame other boards.
All Steve was pointing out was that the past month we have been getting lots of Clone PC Boards (I am not talking about PokeBoard, I mean clones as in all the forum names was the same and all the descriptions was the same everything was the same). And PC has also been getting lots of people joining just to send PMs to members saying "Join my forum, the link is ...".
That is the reason why Steve started this thread. There was no other reason.
It will stay sticked to leave a note saying look out for all this PMing links to members and stuff.
*Closed*