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Gaga For Gaga
April 15th, 2010, 03:33 AM
Gutted.
My mate's sister was supose to be going back to America today, ouch :/

Link to BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8621407.stm)

Cassino
April 15th, 2010, 04:36 AM
The funny part is, I bet flights in Iceland are continuing mostly as normal.

My father once said "that's the thing I like about modern Britain — everyone's lazy".
Dont' take this the wrong way like Gaga For Gaga did below.

Gaga For Gaga
April 15th, 2010, 04:50 AM
The funny part is, I bet flights in Iceland are continuing mostly as normal.

My father once said "that's the thing I like about modern Britain — everyone's lazy".

No offence, but he is wrong.

Everyone lazy in Britain? Pfff.

Fox♠
April 15th, 2010, 11:45 AM
In fairness we're a welfare state now, but that's a different topic.

I didn't even know about the ash clouds until my friend told me. Kinda unnerving though.

KingCharizard
April 15th, 2010, 12:12 PM
And they say amricans are lazy, we are usually the first ones to take action in the moment of need...

"So others may live" USCG
"Never let your friends down" Former US Army National Guard Soldier
"No one deserves to die, NO ONE" My best friend USMC Soldier

Bottom line to sacrifice your life so others may live is the greatest thing anyone no matter where they are born or what they look like can do. I hope everything works out if the worse does happen...

Captain Fabio
April 15th, 2010, 01:03 PM
And they say amricans are lazy, we are usually the first ones to take action in the moment of need...

"So others may live" USCG
"Never let your friends down" Former US Army National Guard Soldier
"No one deserves to die, NO ONE" My best friend USMC Soldier

Bottom line to sacrifice your life so others may live is the greatest thing anyone no matter where they are born or what they look like can do. I hope everything works out if the worse does happen...

WTF?

Anyway, it is a little unnerving, but it should be alright.

Fox♠
April 15th, 2010, 01:28 PM
And they say amricans are lazy, we are usually the first ones to take action in the moment of need...

"So others may live" USCG
"Never let your friends down" Former US Army National Guard Soldier
"No one deserves to die, NO ONE" My best friend USMC Soldier

Bottom line to sacrifice your life so others may live is the greatest thing anyone no matter where they are born or what they look like can do. I hope everything works out if the worse does happen...

World War 2 would love to say hi.

Angela
April 15th, 2010, 03:36 PM
You guys do know UK isn't the Only country.. Most of Northern Europe has had their flights canceled, Spain even had to cancel some flights.. :P

Yus... Icelandic Volcano go be really angry at UK... UK's gonna pay along with the rest of Europe who just stood by.. xD




Anyway.. I feel this thread is lacking in info..


Ok, so the friendly see-able volcano in Iceland stopped.. And instead another one started erupting under a glacier which is about 10-30 times stronger then the one that just ended.. So thus.. Your flights got canceled, and do to the Volcano's convenient location there are now hughes monstrous floods coming from the glacier, it has already torn some bridges and destroyed roads..

Yuoaman
April 15th, 2010, 05:47 PM
And they say amricans are lazy, we are usually the first ones to take action in the moment of need...

"So others may live" USCG
"Never let your friends down" Former US Army National Guard Soldier
"No one deserves to die, NO ONE" My best friend USMC Soldier

Bottom line to sacrifice your life so others may live is the greatest thing anyone no matter where they are born or what they look like can do. I hope everything works out if the worse does happen...

HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA HAHA

I thought you were serious for a couple of seconds there.

But really it's a bummer. Darn volcanoes not considering our schedules. :(

Samme!
April 15th, 2010, 05:55 PM
I have to agree with Angela on this as I find it trivial how the media is more concerned with canceled flights instead of how this eruption is affecting the environment and people of Iceland and the surrounding area :/

Talli
April 15th, 2010, 11:53 PM
who cares about cancelled flights, I am more worried about people breathing in these fumes. Couldn't that be dangerous ?

Fox♠
April 16th, 2010, 07:25 AM
who cares about cancelled flights, I am more worried about people breathing in these fumes. Couldn't that be dangerous ?

Apparantly the plume of ash is too high to do any damage to humans, however North Scotland is being warned to prepare itself for a possible downpour of ash.

Some good news though fellow brits, watch the sunset tonight, experts are saying the ash is gonna make it look really special.

The Fame Monster
April 16th, 2010, 10:53 AM
Apparantly the plume of ash is too high to do any damage to humans, however North Scotland is being warned to prepare itself for a possible downpour of ash.

Some good news though fellow brits, watch the sunset tonight, experts are saying the ash is gonna make it look really special.
if the ash comes down then it would be a health risk because when the ash gets in your lungs it mixes with the fluids and turns into a cement like substance causing suffacation. of course youd have to breath in a lot though.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/19179131

finally someone not talking about just the planes. hes also the first reporter ive heard to attempt to say the name of the volcano. lol

Eyjafjallajokull anyone?

Magik?!
April 16th, 2010, 11:59 AM
One of my friends from Scotland has been texting me nonstop yesterday and today, saying things like 'THERE'S A VOLCANO CLOUD', 'I swear a piece of ash just hit my nose' and 'I think I'm suffocating.' It's pretty funny (he's perfectly fine, and in a low-risk area).
Unfortunately I'm supposed to be flying to Scotland on Monday, from Ireland... and the airspace is going to be opened (providing that this other volcano beside it doesn't erupt o.o ), so I'm kinda hoping that the engines don't blow up or anything. 'Cause that would be bad.

Apparently the health effects, for anyone who has asthma or bronchitus or anything, are basically the same as if you went into a slightly dusty room - coughing and stuff, perhaps some wheezing. If you have any reaction, it's advised that you stay indoors P:

Did anyone see the 'I hate Iceland' guy on Scottish news? xD Youtube him. (My internet's being weird, otherwise I would get a link)

KieronGames
April 16th, 2010, 12:40 PM
well its only gonna be about 2-6 days what chaos could happen

Ayselipera
April 16th, 2010, 01:04 PM
I feel really bad for people who were counting on going on April vacation trips over to Europe or out of Europe. If I was in Europe right now though I couldn't help, but take complete advantage of this and spend all my extra time enjoying more then I would have already.

On Another note I did hear that the volcanic activity going on right how could possibly melt a glacier that's been capping another volcano in Iceland. Supposedly if that glacier is to melt and the other volcano erupts it could possibly launch the Earth into a mini ice age. I thought that might be an interesting tidbit of information to share.

Code
April 16th, 2010, 02:21 PM
I think 1/4th of all Norwegian flights are grounded...or more. I dunno.
I live in Norway.

Kotowari
April 17th, 2010, 12:59 PM
Can I find it awesome? :X Don't get me wrong, but Vulcanoes interest me a lot.
I quote a little of what I wrote in my dA Journal earlier today:

"As background information, Iceland is tectonically active. Situated on the Mid Atlantic Rift, new oceanic (continental on the island) crust is constantly added. This implies breaking the old crust and pushing it aside so magma from the Earth's mantle can rise and harden as new crust.
The eruption of the Eyjafjallajökull (coffee pasta people, coffee pasta) shows that the Atlantic Ocean is still alive.
Did you know that there's no oceanic crust older than 200 milion years (Ma)? At that age, it reaches the other side of the ocean where it undergoes subduction under the continental plates. Older oceanic crust can, however be found on the continental plates where obduction has found place. This explains why oceanic crust can be found in Canada (Burgess Shale, one of the sites where a lot of Cambrian fossils have been found), Cyprus and even on top of Mount Everest!

But back to our vulcanic activity. Last weeks eruption was quite big, sending and ash cloud in the direction of (North) West-Europe. There wasn't much wind (High Pressure Area), so its crossing was very slow. But it's path was closely monitored by the Weather Institute. Though it would take litterally houres to reach the European shore, Air Traffic was kept on the ground for obvious safety measures. At least 'till 10 am today the Air would be closed.


I find this all very interesting, of course. Though it bugs me that they haven't let a geologist talk on the radio/tv. :B (At least not that I've heard)"

Yes, I study Geology, and part of me wants to go study Vulcanology, the other part wants to study other stuff.

Outside of the Geological box however, Vulcanoes are dangerous things, and I know that. Doesn't mean I can't find it awesome, no?
The economical damage will probably be significant.
I heard yesterday on the radio that people who couldn't work because of the vulcanic ash cloud could get rights of payment. Those who work for the Flight Bussiness can't, since 'it's a risk of the job'. I don't know if I find that completely fair. =/

Ezio Auditore da Firenze
April 17th, 2010, 01:08 PM
Volcanoes interest me too...although I'm still in school, so I don't know that much.

I find it brilliant how empty the sky is, and how there're no RAF jets flying over just generally being noisy (I wouldn't mind if it was a Typhoon Eurofighter, or one of those F35 JSF that we're meant to be getting, but Harriers and Tornados have irritated me after I saw them 20 times. By which time I wasn't even 2).

I just hope that ash cloud never drops, or we're all screwed, especially as most of the people I know and like, including me, are ashmatic (I think that's how you spell it)

mondays suck
April 17th, 2010, 02:33 PM
I read about this in the newspaper today, it said all flights in Frankfurt have been cancelled. Since it's a regional newspaper, there wasn't much about other places, though.
Well, apparently, they now have to bring all the people to hotels (because most stuff from help organisations is still in Haiti), I wonder who is going to pay for that...

As for myself, I didn't see any changes in the sky yet, but since quite a few kilometres from Iceland away, I shouldn't be expecting it anyways...

Ragrappy99
April 17th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Luckily for me, I avoided that Volcano by a few days. I was in Iceland until Friday, and we got pretty close to the volcano (well, close to a volcano, not sure if it was the errupting one..). Got a good picture of it with smoke coming out the top. Would post it, but this is only my 2nd post -. -'

Danick
April 18th, 2010, 09:22 AM
If you guys would like I could post the images, awesome awesome looking eruption

Toblerone
April 18th, 2010, 10:59 AM
My GF is stuck abroad because of the Volcano, she may be stuck until next month! Still, good to see the necessary precautions are being made.

Esper
April 18th, 2010, 11:22 AM
Angela's post is the first I've heard about how the volcano is affecting people in Iceland. I hope damage to roads is the extent of the damage there and no one's lives and homes are in danger.

On the positive side there should be lots of data for geologists and the like to study. Maybe they'll learn something new.

Lt_Nite
April 18th, 2010, 01:54 PM
This whole thing was a mess for my schools France trip =[ incredible to think that something like this could cause trouble all over Europe.

robobbiebob
April 18th, 2010, 02:03 PM
the whole thing might of actually did alot for the enviroment stopping all the planes killing the earth.

Opiie
April 18th, 2010, 02:32 PM
its natural, get over it.

Ivysaur
April 18th, 2010, 11:43 PM
Well, some tidbits of info: all airports in Europe are closed, save for a few in South Portugal, Spain and Italy. There is a massive chaos and most companies are losing about 120 million per day.

Yesterday, some German airlines did some flying tests to see if they could fly under special caution measures, so maybe this can be solved soon.

The volcano is still producing ash so Europe can suffer a big blow on its economy.

Captain Fabio
April 19th, 2010, 12:37 AM
I think there will still be loads of delays, as Europe is painfully bad at dealing with unusual and unforeseen problems.

Most recent example was the snow we all had. It was only snow and England was brought back to the ice ages.

This problem with the volcanic ash is a huge problem for the economy. Doesn't help as we are already in trouble, due to the recession and our pointless government.

its natural, get over it.

Really? It might be caused by a 'natural' thing, but the situation is not natural.
You wouldn't be saying "get over it" if you were stuck in another country, having to pay more and more for your hotel costs.

Crap troll is crap.

Peeky Chew
April 19th, 2010, 12:53 AM
To all the people saying it's lazy to not fly through it, watch this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8627956.stm?ls).

Trope
April 19th, 2010, 07:44 AM
Planes will crash if they fly through it, simple as that. I'm not entering any plane right now, even though they're testing with flying at low altitudes and are saying that it's 'safe'. >_>

Shakespeare
April 19th, 2010, 07:49 AM
I've just discovered that it has caused floods to. Too much to handle, eh?

Trope
April 19th, 2010, 08:51 AM
I've just discovered that it has caused floods to. Too much to handle, eh?
Iceland + hot lava = not good. There's serious danger of one big gletsjer melting, and if that happens, Iceland will have a lot of trouble, even more than it has already.

I Laugh at your Misfortune!
April 19th, 2010, 09:16 AM
I'm not entering any plane right now, even though they're testing with flying at low altitudes and are saying that it's 'safe'. >_>

I heard they weren't going to bother flying at low altitudes? Apparently, because of the way the planes are designed, it burns a lot more petrol to fly at a low altitude, so it costs ridiculous amounts.

Fox♠
April 19th, 2010, 10:07 AM
Apparantly British airspace will be open again from tomorrow onwards.

Trope
April 19th, 2010, 01:47 PM
I heard they weren't going to bother flying at low altitudes? Apparently, because of the way the planes are designed, it burns a lot more petrol to fly at a low altitude, so it costs ridiculous amounts.

KLM and Lufthansa are flying, and many countries are planning on opening the airspace again tomorrow, even though the planes will be flying on lower capacity. At least, that's what I heard on the radio 2 hours ago. Belgium's airspace too will open up tomorrow, so I guess Zaventem and Oostende will open up again as well.

Flying at high costs and making little profit still beats grounding planes and making no profit whatsoever. =/

The Fame Monster
April 19th, 2010, 02:01 PM
Iceland + hot lava = not good. There's serious danger of one big gletsjer melting, and if that happens, Iceland will have a lot of trouble, even more than it has already.
i love how you think its an icy place because it has ice in its name. oh how wrong you are. volcanoes are usually mountains. now what are mountains covered with usually? oh yeah, snow and ice. what happens when molten rock contacts it?

greenland is icy.
iceland is green, for the most part.

iceland (http://www.easypedia.gr/el/images/shared/b/bd/Satellite_image_of_Iceland_in_September.jpeg)
greenland -- you can also see iceland (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Greenland_42.74746W_71.57394N.jpg)

both pictures taken during this time of year. dont judge things by the name

Trope
April 19th, 2010, 02:14 PM
I know how Iceland looks, I've been there more than once. I know it isn't all deep frozen. But you can't deny the fact that the active volcano is a gletsjer volcano, lying under the ice. Ice which is melting at the moment. Last news I heard about it, there is a crack in the gletsjer already. So there's a high flood risk.

Which is what I was pointing out, but obviously in the wrong way.

The Fame Monster
April 19th, 2010, 02:40 PM
I know how Iceland looks, I've been there more than once. I know it isn't all deep frozen. But you can't deny the fact that the active volcano is a gletsjer volcano, lying under the ice. Ice which is melting at the moment. Last news I heard about it, there is a crack in the gletsjer already. So there's a high flood risk.

Which is what I was pointing out, but obviously in the wrong way.
no. you were simply putting out it was causing flooding because it was called iceland. you even italicized the word ice in the name.

now your trying to just defend yourself rather poorly at that

Magik?!
April 19th, 2010, 02:46 PM
no. you were simply putting out it was causing flooding because it was called iceland. you even italicized the word ice in the name.

now your trying to just defend yourself rather poorly at that

Well, I don't know whether this is what they were talking about or not, but in all the news reports that are about the enviornmental stuff rather than just the planes, they have been talking about flooding, and the ~700 people that were evacuated, were evacuated because of flooding risks more than anything. And considering the volcano is beside/under Iceland's fifth biggest glacier or something, it would kind of make sense.
I dunno, maybe they were being stupid, but what they were saying was completely correct. There are major flooding risks at the minute, and it's the ice that's causing the ash clouds in the first place.

Plus... Irish airspace is open tomorrow too :D Yay!

Trope
April 19th, 2010, 03:28 PM
no. you were simply putting out it was causing flooding because it was called iceland. you even italicized the word ice in the name.

now your trying to just defend yourself rather poorly at that

No. Ice was italicized because the vocano is lying underneath a gletsjer, which is made of ice (a word which coincidentally also appears in the name of the country, so I played with that), which melts if it comes into contact with hot stuff. Like lava. I did never say that Iceland is 1 one huge ice clump. That's what you read out of my words.

But of course, I can not force you to belive what I type, and you obviously know better.

Tho I have to admit, Iceland was warmer than I expected it to be. Still too cold for my liking, but... I expected it to be way colder.

/drops the matter.

@Magik: Yep. A volcano erupted in Iceland in 1996 as well, and most damage was not caused by the eruption itself, but by the floods following it. =/

Katalyst
April 19th, 2010, 03:41 PM
Heh, even us had to cancel flights due to this. The airports were in a total pandemonium in the last days. Trains and international buses were always full.

Well everybody's concerned about the flights being canceled, but what about the eruption itself? Has it caused severe damages (material or human) or not? That's a more important question, I think.
I've read here that the volcano was lying under the ice... That's a big problem then, depending on how much ice there is.

Captain Fabio
April 20th, 2010, 12:31 AM
Apparantly British airspace will be open again from tomorrow onwards.

It keeps being put back! XD

TYPICAL England.

Peeky Chew
April 20th, 2010, 08:09 AM
It keeps being put back! XD

TYPICAL England.Yeah, typical England. They should let people fly again! Who cares when a plane crashes killing 500 people, we've got places to go!

Liliana Vess
April 20th, 2010, 08:15 AM
More like typical france, a bunch of people tried to go over there in boats (for Free aswell!) to bring people stuck in europe back to england and the french authorites stoped them for no reason!

sabapple
April 20th, 2010, 09:09 AM
This is been all over the news lately.. =/ Someone in my class is stuck in Europe and I'm a bit concerned because I currently have a french exchange student living in my house and she is suppose to go back this week... I dunno if she's gonna end up staying at my house a bit longer... This dang volcano... The economy for some countries that rely on exports is going to be suffering..

Netto Azure
April 20th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Well this has been going on for days now. :(

I just hope they safely resolve this...

Captain Fabio
April 20th, 2010, 10:55 AM
Yeah, typical England. They should let people fly again! Who cares when a plane crashes killing 500 people, we've got places to go!

I was referring to the fact they can't get an actual date correct.

If you feel that way, regardless of if you are being sarcastic or not, you should be the first to fly.

Peeky Chew
April 20th, 2010, 10:56 AM
More like typical france, a bunch of people tried to go over there in boats (for Free aswell!) to bring people stuck in europe back to england and the french authorites stoped them for no reason!Maybe because they had no permit? For all the French authorites knew, they could have been ilegally transporting imigrants, not British citizens.

@Caption Fabio: It's hard to predict weather patterns. This eruption may go on for years, we'll only be able to fly when the wind keeps the ash away. This isn't going to be over for a while yet.
"sarcastic", you contradicted the rest of your post by saying that.

The Darkest Gale
April 20th, 2010, 11:08 AM
Apparantly the plume of ash is too high to do any damage to humans, however North Scotland is being warned to prepare itself for a possible downpour of ash.

Some good news though fellow brits, watch the sunset tonight, experts are saying the ash is gonna make it look really special.

whoo xD I'm in the west of scotland thank goodness >.>


anyway my friend is stuck in florida, lucky!
Personally I think the thing ain't as bad as people say it is lol xD like people are panicing as if its the apocalyse
the airplane companys are losing like millions a day :O not good for the credit crunch! lol

oh well at least my english teacher is stranded :D I am so happy

also is there meant to be another ash cloud? if so YAY! more over reacting >.>

Captain Fabio
April 20th, 2010, 11:34 AM
@Caption Fabio: It's hard to predict weather patterns. This eruption may go on for years, we'll only be able to fly when the wind keeps the ash away. This isn't going to be over for a while yet.
"sarcastic", you contradicted the rest of your post by saying that.


I wasn't being sarcastic.