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Muffin™
April 29th, 2010, 10:55 AM
Have you ever seen Subliminal messages/ads/ect.? Personally, I remember some Spongebob ones and when a McDonald's ad flashed across the screen on the show Iron Chef. So, have you seen subliminal content anywhere?



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Yusshin
April 29th, 2010, 12:10 PM
There's subliminal messages everywhere, in every show, on billboards, in pretty much every popular song nowadays.

But because they're subliminal, you don't see them or their effects.

Bluerang1
April 29th, 2010, 12:16 PM
I NEVER notice any until it's pointed out. Do product placement count? I see loads of them in music videos etc.

EmeraldSerenade
April 29th, 2010, 02:23 PM
I've seen so many of them in tv shows and music videos -.-
Its not that difficult for me to notice xD

Yusshin
April 29th, 2010, 02:33 PM
I've seen so many of them in tv shows and music videos -.-
Its not that difficult for me to notice xD

Then we are alike, you and I.

I search for them specifically, just so I don't absorb their hidden meaning by accident. I want to reject it all :< and I search to do just that!

Really, subliminal messaging shouldn't be allowed to troll us to badly. It changes your personality over time, and it hits you when you're most vulnerable generally - as kiddies. It's like morphing the brain.

EmeraldSerenade
April 29th, 2010, 02:36 PM
Then we are alike, you and I.

I search for them specifically, just so I don't absorb their hidden meaning by accident. I want to reject it all :< and I search to do just that!

Really, subliminal messaging shouldn't be allowed to troll us to badly. It changes your personality over time, and it hits you when you're most vulnerable generally - as kiddies. It's like morphing the brain.


I know, its like they're brainwashing you .-.
A bit freaky if you ask me. I see no purpose of subliminal messaging since most people don't even notice them..

Yusshin
April 29th, 2010, 02:39 PM
I know, its like they're brainwashing you .-.
A bit freaky if you ask me. I see no purpose of subliminal messaging since most people don't even notice them..

They don't notice them.

But their subconscience does << and it takes a hard impact, changing your personality completely in some cases. Most subliminal messages I've seen are sexual and/or violent. For example, there was an ad for an MMORPG. It was a woman dressed in rags, chained to a wall, and a message saying "Come play!" It's a subliminal message for rape. It disgusted me thoroughly. It should be illegal to show these kinds of things :|

It actually promotes the brain to think that showing women in such a manner and thinking them as sexual objects is correct. You might not think it when you see the ad at first, but if you see the same message over'n over and not realize it, you're going to base your judgment of females on it sooner or later.

Of course, it's not just females that are targetted. Alcohol, sex, violence, drugs... They're all floating in subliminal messaging, changing our youth and boosting the pornography / alcohol / similar markets cash quota. It's just for cash. It's to control the population and where they spend their money. Not to mention, if men and women treat each other like crap, get married, and keep getting divorces, where does all of that money go? To the government and into the hands of a lot of creeps.

Some messages are really obvious, and people still don't see it as brainwashing. Especially song lyrics. Those are the worst o0

I want to make something to give a subliminal message of kindness, charity, and truth, but I don't know how to do it lol I want to fight fire with fire. I doubt mine would be very popular, though :| Not just because good morals and values seem to be already hopelessly lost, but because of what I'd be up against. I've got my conspiracy suspicions of all governments, especially that of the US. Among them, I find that the majority are against the good morals and values. I just call the people behind subliminal messaging and who are against the greater good of humanity satanists now (most would find this extreme, but I have other reasons to declare them as such).

Throat
April 29th, 2010, 02:59 PM
Sometimes I do notice, but I doubt they work.

donavannj
April 29th, 2010, 03:10 PM
I tend to ignore subliminal messaging... though I see it (and hear it in radio commercials - rarely in music, because I already know to ignore the lyrics of quite a few songs I like for the instrumentals) all the time. Especially in Adult Swim's self-deprecating advertisements... there's a lot in those.

Esper
April 29th, 2010, 06:01 PM
I don't think 'suggestive' messages count as 'subliminal' since they're pretty obvious even if their meaning is somewhat obscure.

I read that subliminal advertising doesn't actually increase the sales of whatever is being advertised and that 'mind control' with it is impossible.

Illekn
April 29th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Well, if you have ever seen any ads for those cheap text based MMORPGs, they usually have a bunch of live, near nude women on them... does that count?

Yusshin
April 29th, 2010, 06:16 PM
Well, if you have ever seen any ads for those cheap text based MMORPGs, they usually have a bunch of live, near nude women on them... does that count?

Yeah. That's suggestive and a bit obvious, but it remains subliminal. The real message isn't advertised by words; it's to be thought over by the brain. The message? Women are objects. Treat'em like ****s.

Death_Mande
April 29th, 2010, 06:22 PM
I laugh my arse off really badly at the Chowder ones. xD" But yeah, I do see them everywhere. It's only normal where I come from. Hell, my Friends are all pervs. They talk about weird things with fruits o-o"

I still find myself the same though, no changes in Violence nor in anything else. o-o

Sneeze
April 29th, 2010, 06:24 PM
When people hear the term "subliminal advertising" they always assocciate it with the 1/4 second long images you hear about, this isn't the case. Most, if not all advertising is subliminal, see any advert on TV and everything will place placed in a such a way it appeals to the audience, mixtures of colours, sounds, anything. On the consious level it may not effect you, on a sub-concious if definitely does, you can deny it and say "advertising doesn't effect me" all you like, chances are it does, you just don't know. See an advert for Coca Cola think "What's the point in them advertising, everyone knows about their product", few days later maybe you need to choose between Coke and Pepsi, assuming you are neutral in the Coke v. Pepsi debate chances are you'll go for the former, completely unaware. A recent one I've noticed is all these adverts that use 70s/80s songs, you see it alot, come to associate that song with that advert, maybe hear that song on a radio a while later and "randomly" get the urge for what ever the advert was.

Subliminal advertising is a powerful force, don't even try to fight it, you can't, unless you force yourself to only by "no frills" products, and even then you'll be influenced over which shop to buy them from.

donavannj
April 29th, 2010, 06:51 PM
Subliminal advertising is a powerful force, don't even try to fight it, you can't, unless you force yourself to only by "no frills" products, and even then you'll be influenced over which shop to buy them from.

Some of us can fight subliminal advertising because we already have addictions hobbies that eat most of our money. ;D;

Galukxy
April 30th, 2010, 11:16 AM
Yes, I'm sure I've seen some on shows like The Simpsons and Spongebob before >_>
I do tend to ignore them though because they don't make any sense at all to me.

Gary, the Magic Fairy
April 30th, 2010, 01:30 PM
I love how you all think marketing ploys are "Subliminal Messages".
Subliminal stimuli are any sensory stimuli below an individual's absolute threshold for conscious perception.
Someone drinking a diet coke on your TV show isn't subliminal messaging. Flashing the words "DRINK COKE" on the screen for a quarter of a second is... and as far as I know, no one does that. You're all paranoid.
Yes, I'm sure I've seen some on shows like The Simpsons and Spongebob before >_>
I do tend to ignore them though because they don't make any sense at all to me.lol, "Yvan eht nioj"

Yusshin
April 30th, 2010, 01:35 PM
Subliminal messaging is also showing something that isn't perceived consciously in its obvious manner and requires some thought / your subconscious to see it. For example, the advertisement for that MMORPG I was talking about. Consciously, it's saying to play the game. Subconsciously / subliminally, it's saying that women should be treated like *****s.

So it's not just flashing an image for a split second across the screen - it's also "hidden meanings" to phrases, situations, and pictures seen on TV, heard in music, etc.

"Subliminal" means "hidden" or "hard to see". Subliminal messaging is a message that isn't perceived easily / consciously.

SIN1488
May 1st, 2010, 11:49 AM
There is no choice you must give sin all your moneez such thing as subliminal messages you guys, that's silly.

piece of something
May 1st, 2010, 12:07 PM
im not sure we don't mold our own subliminal messages from what we see...

and, how would one go about fighting subliminal messages anyway? avoid all media and advertising? actually it stretches further than that as everything you come into contact with can have embedded subliminal messages...

if u don't pick up on subliminal messages because they are subliminal then how is it possible you know they exist since they were meant to be subliminal in the first place? surely the second someone points out a subliminal message it stops being subliminal? wouldn't the person who picked it up have formulated it with their own thought process then? i mean two people can hear the same lyrics, see the same ads, yet interpret them differently, and come to different conclusions. would that mean there were several subliminal messages in the lyrics/ads and they each just "subconsciously" picked one?

if there were really subliminal messages out there than none of us would know because they would be subliminal...

Subliminal messaging is also showing something that isn't perceived consciously in its obvious manner and requires some thought / your subconscious to see it. For example, the advertisement for that MMORPG I was talking about. Consciously, it's saying to play the game. Subconsciously / subliminally, it's saying that women should be treated like *****s.

So it's not just flashing an image for a split second across the screen - it's also "hidden meanings" to phrases, situations, and pictures seen on TV, heard in music, etc.

"Subliminal" means "hidden" or "hard to see". Subliminal messaging is a message that isn't perceived easily / consciously.

i know the MMORPG adverts you are talking about and i've never once thought women should be treated like *****es because of them (i believe *****es should be treated like *****es for being *****es tho)...so my question to you is does the subliminal message really exist if only some people pick it up? if i see the ad a million times and go on to live my life without treating women like *****es, does the subliminal message really exist? and if does, why wouldn't it have altered my behavior? the fact that you noticed it and i didn't surely shows its a product of your own making and not a constant thing that's in actual existence, like say air for example, that affects everyone?

anyway...i don't think anyone can blame any of their actions on "subliminal messages" as i believe in most cases those are things we create on our own to begin with...the only thing that's "subliminal" is our forming those opinions from things we see :P i mean sure you can be influenced but ultimately the decision is ours!

Gary, the Magic Fairy
May 1st, 2010, 12:30 PM
Subliminal messaging is also showing something that isn't perceived consciously in its obvious manner and requires some thought / your subconscious to see it. For example, the advertisement for that MMORPG I was talking about. Consciously, it's saying to play the game. Subconsciously / subliminally, it's saying that women should be treated like *****s.

So it's not just flashing an image for a split second across the screen - it's also "hidden meanings" to phrases, situations, and pictures seen on TV, heard in music, etc.

"Subliminal" means "hidden" or "hard to see". Subliminal messaging is a message that isn't perceived easily / consciously.lol Feminazi propaganda. How is showing a near-nude woman supposed to subconsciously tell people to treat them like objects? You have to already have serious issues if it has that effect on you.

As has been said, that's an obvious marketing ploy, not a subliminal message. Sex sells — it's common knowledge. I've yet to hear a good, specific example of an actual subliminal message, except the McDonald's one mentioned in the first post, which was likely just a glitch, as the network stated. People are acting like every slightly manipulative advertisement is a subliminal message.

Rich Boy Rob
May 1st, 2010, 12:38 PM
I remember the Derren Brown thing on a while ago about subliminal messaging. He tried to fix people to their chairs at home through the tv by (supposedly) using a certain sound to hold you there. While I wasn't I heard of a lot of people who were. He also tried this thing where he set up an entire shopping centre to subliminally encourage generosity. He then dressed up in prosthetics etc as a beggar and made £300! One of the examples of generosity was a poster of a man giving a child a shoe, and this apparently caused a man to give him his shoes!

ANARCHit3cht
May 1st, 2010, 09:15 PM
I've heard a lot about movies like Disney have a lot of homosexual subliminal messaging.. but I think that it is poppycock. xD I'm never using that word again.

Sneeze
May 2nd, 2010, 02:15 PM
I remember the Derren Brown thing on a while ago about subliminal messaging. He tried to fix people to their chairs at home through the tv by (supposedly) using a certain sound to hold you there. While I wasn't I heard of a lot of people who were. He also tried this thing where he set up an entire shopping centre to subliminally encourage generosity. He then dressed up in prosthetics etc as a beggar and made £300! One of the examples of generosity was a poster of a man giving a child a shoe, and this apparently caused a man to give him his shoes!

I remember that, didn't quite work but my arms felt really weird after, felt all heavy and stuff. There was the one about the advertising guys designing a taxidermist name/slogan/logo and such which he got almost completely right, and the women in the toy store with the giraffe. Just proves it works.

Why yes, I am a Derren Brown fan, how did you tell?

robobbiebob
May 3rd, 2010, 11:28 AM
I remember that, didn't quite work but my arms felt really weird after, felt all heavy and stuff. There was the one about the advertising guys designing a taxidermist name/slogan/logo and such which he got almost completely right, and the women in the toy store with the giraffe. Just proves it works.

Why yes, I am a Derren Brown fan, how did you tell?


i watched the derren brown thing too it didnt work at all. but it still freaked me out.

i know of a sprite or tango ad ages ago being banned cos it had the bottle and logo popping up all the time and was said it was banned cos of the subliminal messages it was giving after watching it i do admit it made me want the drink.

and as for the disney thing i dont see why they would wonna advertis homosexuality sence they refuse to have gays in there shows or anything.
good example high school musical clearly gay but not allowed to say.

Muffin™
May 4th, 2010, 02:40 AM
I've heard a lot about movies like Disney have a lot of homosexual subliminal messaging.. but I think that it is poppycock. xD I'm never using that word again.


This is off-topic, but, eh. There is this daycare teacher who says if you are talking about a gay person she thinks it's inappropriate. I was talking with my friend saying "Why do gay people get made fun of all the time and they don't sho--" Then the teacher comes in and says "Don't say that in here. There's little kids in here and they don't want to know about that stuff." (BTW we were walking down the hallway and I live in a school that goes from K-8) I'm like to my friend "Jeez... she must be a homophobic xD" Annd the fact was, we were talking soft, not ALL CAPS!11!!. People these days need to learn...

Anyway, have you seen the Bush ad when it said "RATS" That was pretty subliminal.

SIN1488
May 4th, 2010, 10:53 PM
This is off-topic, but, eh. There is this daycare teacher who says if you are talking about a gay person she thinks it's inappropriate. I was talking with my friend saying "Why do gay people get made fun of all the time and they don't sho--" Then the teacher comes in and says "Don't say that in here. There's little kids in here and they don't want to know about that stuff." (BTW we were walking down the hallway and I live in a school that goes from K-8) I'm like to my friend "Jeez... she must be a homophobic xD" Annd the fact was, we were talking soft, not ALL CAPS!11!!. People these days need to learn...

Anyway, have you seen the Bush ad when it said "RATS" That was pretty subliminal.

Subliminal, or coincidental? Hrmm.....

And that teacher is stupid and homophobic. Acting like she knows what the kids want to know, I guarantee if they overheard that conversation they would be like: "What's a homoseckswal??".

Sneeze
May 5th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Keeping homosexuality hidden from view until children are like 12 is the very reason we have homophobia, by that point it seems weird and unusual and not natural et cetera, if it was introduced at the same time as heterosexuality then there'd be far less of an issue.

Muffin™
May 5th, 2010, 04:25 PM
I guess they said it because they don't want parents to let their child say that, and soon the whole Kindergarten will learn about homosexuals...

Or, the parents don't want the boy/girl to become gay when their older :/

Meh, where I live, people are REALLY fussy about things, so if one kid (this is true) is alergic to peanuts, our stupid principle TOM DANIELS comes and bans it from the school. No more cut fruit, Dunkin Doughnuts, or things with peanuts

SIN1488
May 7th, 2010, 12:12 AM
Or, the parents don't want the boy/girl to become gay when their older :/


This is most likely why.


I was thinking about the subliminals some more, and I though maybe we should do an experiment. You know how you see those sigs that say "If you a part of the ___% of the population that does/doesn't _____, put this in your signature.

Well I thought of one that might be funny and a little experiment at the same time: "If you are part of the 5% of the population that is not affected by mind control, put this in your signature."

XD I would put it in mine but I don't think it will fit. I'll try though.

Ninja Caterpie
May 7th, 2010, 01:12 AM
I guess they said it because they don't want parents to let their child say that, and soon the whole Kindergarten will learn about homosexuals...

Or, the parents don't want the boy/girl to become gay when their older :/

Meh, where I live, people are REALLY fussy about things, so if one kid (this is true) is alergic to peanuts, our stupid principle TOM DANIELS comes and bans it from the school. No more cut fruit, Dunkin Doughnuts, or things with peanuts

Be a rebel, make the whole school (except that poor kid, of course) bring peanuts.

Haza
May 7th, 2010, 01:25 AM
Haha, if you guys are believers in it, look up the New World Order and Illuminati, Free Masonry, and Satanism. Supposedly everything you see on the television or hear on the radio is meant to make you think and feel a certain way. Beyonce, Jay-Z, Lady GaGa, Britney Spears, Madonna, Kanye West, Rihanna, all of your favorite artists are brainwashing you with their lyrics and music videos for Satanic or sinister purposes. Have you noticed all of the similar themes in Pop, Hip-Hop, and Rick videos lately? It is all Robotic, Dream Worlds, Military War themed, monster, religion based, and end of the world like videos and the are all supposed to have meaning. Even if you don't believe in satan or God it would still have relevance because it is still meant to control you regardless. I am so fascinated with these things right nows. When you get as deep into it as I am it gets a little scary.

Demigod
May 7th, 2010, 02:19 AM
There everywhere.. you just don't always notice it and they actually work.. for example you see a Mcdonalds add somewhere and like an hour later you will want Mcdonalds.

SIN1488
May 7th, 2010, 03:32 PM
Haha, if you guys are believers in it, look up the New World Order and Illuminati, Free Masonry, and Satanism.
:laugh:

;)

Nothing more needs to be said.