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XEL
July 13th, 2010, 06:25 AM
True.. Then I'm afraid Pokemon has several generations left... They have yet to introduce this "America." I feel these are simply minor details that Gamefreak and Nintendo are going to overlook however. And If you knew this piece of info, why didn't you just present it as your argument earlier?

Lt. Surge = From America
America=/=Isshu

Heart's Soul
July 13th, 2010, 06:28 AM
It's around Tokyo, I can show it to you when I get the computer.

rocky505
July 13th, 2010, 06:29 AM
It's around Tokyo, I can show it to you when I get the computer. kanto already used the Tokyo area so no it isn't Tokyo.

Iceman3317
July 13th, 2010, 06:35 AM
I think it may be America now. Look at the new scans.

areas very in the game you get. 1 looks futuristic and the other looks like stone building which is what Native Americans had.

Oh ya.

The Japan Theroy is now smashed in to pieces.
and

"Pikachu, I don't think we are in Japan any more........."

XEL
July 13th, 2010, 09:42 AM
Well, considering rocky's arguments, I doubt it'd be America now. There'd be no reason to call it Isshu if it was since they've already stated a gym leader was from this so-called "America."

BeachBoy
July 13th, 2010, 09:54 AM
Just a thought: with Hoenn's real world representative, was there a dessert in the same area? What other region features do their real world counterparts also have?

Kirbychu
July 13th, 2010, 10:00 AM
Just a thought: with Hoenn's real world representative, was there a dessert in the same area? What other region features do their real world counterparts also have?
I found this (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world) Bulbapedia page interesting.

I agree with the Isshu region being based off New York. Hiun City, the shape of Isshu, and another Route 1 just do it for me.

And about America already being mentioned in the games, it's not like they can't retcon that. Isshu isn't even America, technically it's only a part of America if it's based off New York.

BeachBoy
July 13th, 2010, 10:07 AM
I found this (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world) Bulbapedia page interesting.

I agree with the Isshu region being based off New York. Hiun City, the shape of Isshu, and another Route 1 just do it for me.

And about America already being mentioned in the games, it's not like they can't retcon that. Isshu isn't even America, technically it's only a part of America if it's based off New York.Brilliant, thanks Kirb.

What I was thinking with that question, was, say the feature-similarities weren't abundant: outline does match New York, but some features don't exactly match up. Which makes Isshu interesting.

MistahDude
July 13th, 2010, 10:07 AM
True.. Then I'm afraid Pokemon has several generations left... They have yet to introduce this "America." I feel these are simply minor details that Gamefreak and Nintendo are going to overlook however. And If you knew this piece of info, why didn't you just present it as your argument earlier?

Lt. Surge = From America
America=/=Isshu

Lt. Surge lives in Kanto but it doesnt mean he is from there. Isshu is seeming more and more like America. Heck the American pokemon (wooguru) is native there.

Well, considering rocky's arguments, I doubt it'd be America now. There'd be no reason to call it Isshu if it was since they've already stated a gym leader was from this so-called "America."

It seems like "Regions" and "Countries" could be different in the Pokemon World. Kanto and Johto are Regions but they are part of the Country of Japan.

America could be a country in the pokemon world with the region of Isshu inside of it.

Magic
July 13th, 2010, 02:26 PM
I don't get why people are saying Kanto and Johto are part of Japan in game. They do resemble their real life counterparts a lot, however that doesn't mean they make up the same country (and overall landmass shape) as the real world.

America (Lt Surge) was probably mentioned simply for the stereotype of his character, saying he was from [insert another place in Pokéworld] would have been meaningless.

Fantina is stereotypically French in the anime, but I really doubt we'll be getting a french region any time soon.

Therefore I still think that Isshu is NOT America. It has influences from lots of different places, just like the other regions.

-----

Interestingly, LaRousse City (From the Deoxys movie) is based on Vancouver. However it is situated north of Hoenn, not far far away in 'America'.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 13th, 2010, 04:15 PM
They just renamed the areas, besides this is in a unknown time...maybe their is no USA anymore...

Zackraa
July 14th, 2010, 12:32 PM
..to Shanghai, China it seems

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8121/1279106273236.th.png (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/1279106273236.png/) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9204/1279105841189.th.png (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/1279105841189.png/)

every theory about new york is dashed with 2ch figuring this out

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1638/1279104707795.th.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/1279104707795.jpg/)

so this "region that is far from the other regions" looks awesome =D

Jerme
July 14th, 2010, 12:34 PM
hmm maybe right

but what about the native american bird?

Dillon_68
July 14th, 2010, 12:35 PM
Yeah, this is more believable than New York.

Bloothump
July 14th, 2010, 12:35 PM
I wouldn't say that every chance is dashed, there will certainly be people who will always and forever say it is New York because AMERICA IS THE BEST.
This certainly looks more similar though, I'm going to have to say that Isshu is most likely Shanghai. I'm a little disappointed, but oh well. I'm glad we're at least getting a possibly-American-super-awesome-eagle pokemon.

hmm maybe right

but what about the native american bird?

Just because we have a pokemon with (possible) American influences doesn't mean that the region is based of the US. Many say Ludicolo has Latin influences, but Hoenn is still based of part of Japan.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 12:39 PM
hmm maybe right

but what about the native american bird?Well we had Zapdos in Kanto and that's Japan. Zapdos is based on the Thunder bird for those who do not know which is a native American legend

Zackraa
July 14th, 2010, 12:52 PM
I am Native American and I was hoping it would be in America but that doesn't seem to be the case also now that each game is entirely different it seems to show off the industrial/country side of china

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3573/a818chinesepaintingeagl.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/i/a818chinesepaintingeagl.jpg/)

a scroll painting depicting a Chinese eagle

BeachBoy
July 14th, 2010, 12:53 PM
The back and forth is really getting old, actually. There's images that favor New York, there's images that favor Shanghai. This is crazy: GO AMERICA!

Oh, and merged your thread here.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 12:55 PM
I am Native American and I was hoping it would be in America but that doesn't seem to be the case also now that each game is entirely different it seems to show off the industrial/country side of china

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3573/a818chinesepaintingeagl.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/i/a818chinesepaintingeagl.jpg/)

a scroll painting depicting a Chinese eagleOh so Wooguru is based on the Chinese eagle only with british/america color :P

Zackraa
July 14th, 2010, 12:57 PM
Oh so Wooguru is based on the Chinese eagle only with british/america color :P
China doesn't like America or Britain and Japan doesn't like China so.. lol hidden insults

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 12:59 PM
China doesn't like America or Britain and Japan doesn't like China so.. lol hidden insultsI know, Poor china, the Japanese creators are so mean to it :P

Ninja Caterpie
July 14th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Oh my god, Shanghai.

The water and the shape and this is just so much more obvious than New York! The bridges in Shanghai are a lot more like the ones see-able from the Isshu map, too. :D

asdfghjkl i love this game if it's in Shanghai.

Although, technically, it's "shanghai area", as shanghai is only in, well, exactly in the position of Hiun City.

MistahDude
July 14th, 2010, 05:32 PM
Oh so Wooguru is based on the Chinese eagle only with british/america color :P

Ugh NO. Wooguru/Wargle is a Bald Eagle with a native american headdress on his head.

China doesn't like America or Britain and Japan doesn't like China so.. lol hidden insults

Another problem with Isshu being in China is that Isshu is supposed to be far away. China is right next to Japan. All the previous generations were in Japan.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 05:37 PM
Ugh NO. Wooguru/Wargle is a Bald Eagle with a native american headdress on his head.



Another problem with Isshu being in China is that Isshu is supposed to be far away. China is right next to Japan. All the previous generations were in Japan.Shanghai is in still farther from any other region is to one another. Well look at the picture of the Chinese eagle posted here :)

Ninja Caterpie
July 14th, 2010, 05:38 PM
Another problem with Isshu being in China is that Isshu is supposed to be far away. China is right next to Japan. All the previous generations were in Japan.

Er derp could mean in the Pokemon world? In other words, where they're situated in the Pokemon world.

Like so:

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JK
H..........................................................I

See what I mean? FAR AWAY.

MistahDude
July 14th, 2010, 05:40 PM
Shanghai is in still farther from any other region is to one another. Well look at the picture of the Chinese eagle posted here :)

it doesnt look like a Chinese Eagle. it is a Bald Eagle. It wouldn't make sense for them to give a chinese eagle a native american headdress and American colors.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/194/4/7/5th_Gen__Pokemon__Wooguru_by_Ultimatepkmnfan.pnghttp://www.tobinphoto.com/images/photos/bald_eagle.jpghttp://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/150/a/7/Native_American_Indian_STOCK_by_Lady_Timeless_STOCK.jpg

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 05:47 PM
I am Native American and I was hoping it would be in America but that doesn't seem to be the case also now that each game is entirely different it seems to show off the industrial/country side of china

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3573/a818chinesepaintingeagl.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/i/a818chinesepaintingeagl.jpg/)

a scroll painting depicting a Chinese eagle
This is the Chinese Eagle it doesn't need a headress to look like it :)

Ninja Caterpie
July 14th, 2010, 05:49 PM
Here's the full-sized Chinese Eagle.

http://chineseartstore.com/catalog/images/medium/a818-chinese-painting-eagle-sunset-ocean-detail.jpg

I wonder.

And it doesn't make sense to make a land slug pink, either, but they've done it. They also set a pig and chicken on fire and they don't taste nice. Not to mention that giant 100ft green dinosaur that breathes fire and shoots lightning bolts from its fingertips.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 05:51 PM
Here's the full-sized Chinese Eagle.

http://chineseartstore.com/catalog/images/medium/a818-chinese-painting-eagle-sunset-ocean-detail.jpg

I wonder.
Yup that sure looks like our Eagle :). Maybe they only gave in american colors to piss of the Chinese like the person how said it was based on Shanghai said :P

Ninja Caterpie
July 14th, 2010, 05:55 PM
And nobody notices the yellow thing around Wooguru's tail. That makes it red/white/blue/yellow. =| It's just a colour scheme, it doesn't have to be America.

Its shiny form sure won't be. >D

Kirbychu
July 14th, 2010, 05:57 PM
I wouldn't say that every chance is dashed, there will certainly be people who will always and forever say it is New York because AMERICA IS THE BEST.

People's theories on what a Pokemon region is based off does not determine if they favor a certain country. >.>

Shanghai is plausible, but I'm sticking with NY.

You have distort the whole shape of Shanghai just to make it look close to Isshu. Manhattan matches up a lot better, Shanghai is way to round and triangular Manhattan has the rectangular look. The lake means nothing, Pokemon regions are always altered from their real-life counterparts.

Now here's the biggest flaw in the Shanghai theory.
Even though both NYC and rotated Shanghai land masses look similar to Isshu, Huin City is strong evidence that its based of NYC..
http://www.visitingdc.com/images/manhattan-skyline-picture.jpghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5e/Hiun_City.pnghttp://img709.imageshack.us/img709/2227/shangia.png

Top is Manhattan, bottom is Shanghai,, you tell me which one is a better fit.

Not to mention that Junichi Masuda's blog is Black and White and has the New York skyline at the top of the page. Hint, hint?
http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/index.php

"Shadow Lugia"
July 14th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Isshu could easily be based on NYC or Shanghai:

NYC:http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/Eman477/NYC.jpg?t=1279158802

Isshu:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9204/1279105841189.png

Shanghai:
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8121/1279106273236.png

Right now there's no completely solid evidence showing which is more likely, and Isshu could easily be based on some other location that nobody has thought of.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 06:03 PM
Well the rivers are shaped more like those of Shanghai than those of NY actually, interesting.

Kirbychu
July 14th, 2010, 06:03 PM
Isshu could easily be based on NYC or Shanghai:

NYC:http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/Eman477/NYC.jpg?t=1279158802

Isshu:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9204/1279105841189.png

Shanghai:
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8121/1279106273236.png

Right now there's no completely solid evidence showing which is more likely, and Isshu could easily be based on some other location that nobody has thought of.
Look at all the docks Manhattan has, they match up with Hiun. New York's shape is also a much better fit, and it didn't have to be distorted. The New York area is also the same relative size as past Japanese regions used.

Ninja Caterpie
July 14th, 2010, 06:05 PM
Where do the bridges in NYC go?
Look! To more city.

Where do the bridges in Shanghai go?
Look! To some rural area.

Where do the bridges in Hiun go?
Look! To some rural area.

Oh well, it's just the actual area around Shanghai is more like that of Isshu, although Hiun City is definitely more like New York. The docks, and the bridge sort of just sticking out to the side. That picture Kirbychu gave us was perfect. Hiun is almost definitely New York. The thing is, the area around it isn't. Around Manhattan is, well, more city. Around Shanghai is, well, no city. You also have to keep in mind there's no desert in either of them.

"Shadow Lugia"
July 14th, 2010, 06:07 PM
Look at all the docks Manhattan has, they match up with Hiun.
I'm well aware of that, since I've lived in NYC all my life. I originally thought that Hiun City greatly resembled Lower Manhattan when i first saw Hiun's artwork.

While I hope that Isshu is based off NYC, I still think it's a good idea to look over all of the options.

Where do the bridges in NYC go?
Look! To more city.

Where do the bridges in Shanghai go?
Look! To some rural area.

Where do the bridges in Hiun go?
Look! To some rural area.

Oh well, it's just the actual area around Shanghai is more like that of Isshu, although Hiun City is definitely more like New York. The docks, and the bridge sort of just sticking out to the side. That picture Kirbychu gave us was perfect.The Brooklyn Bridge (The bridge that's in the same spot as the Sky Arrow Bridge in Isshu) actually leads to Brooklyn, which, despite being part of the city, has just as many rural areas as (If not more than) urban areas. The only part of NYC that's completely urban is Manhattan, with all of the other Boroughs having a mix of rural and urban. In addition, the entire area west of Manhattan is part of New Jersey, which is very rural.

Kirbychu
July 14th, 2010, 06:11 PM
Where do the bridges in NYC go?
Look! To more city.

Where do the bridges in Shanghai go?
Look! To some rural area.

Where do the bridges in Hiun go?
Look! To some rural area.

Oh well, it's just the actual area around Shanghai is more like that of Isshu, although Hiun City is definitely more like New York. The docks, and the bridge sort of just sticking out to the side. That picture Kirbychu gave us was perfect. Hiun is almost definitely New York. The thing is, the area around it isn't. Around Manhattan is, well, more city. Around Shanghai is, well, no city. You also have to keep in mind there's no desert in either of them.
Wouldn't it be kind of boring to just travel from a city to more city? Just sayin' that Pokemon regions are always altered from their real-life counterparts.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 06:13 PM
I'm well aware of that, since I've lived in NYC all my life. I originally thought that Hiun City greatly resembled Lower Manhattan when i first saw Hiun's artwork.

While I hope that Isshu is based off NYC, I still think it's a good idea to look over all of the options.


The Brooklyn Bridge (The bridge that's in the same spot as the Sky Arrow Bridge in Isshu) actually leads to Brooklyn, which, despite being part of the city, has just as many rural areas as (If not more than) city-like areas. In addition, the entire area west of Manhattan is part of New Jersey, which is very rural.
Same here we should look at all of them. Oh wait the Geography could be that of shanghai while Huin city is based on NYC just like Sootopolis is based on a city in greece so they both are right ;). So the rest of Isshu is based on Shanghai while only the City is based on NYC :)

Ninja Caterpie
July 14th, 2010, 06:16 PM
Wouldn't it be kind of boring to just travel from a city to more city? Just sayin' that Pokemon regions are always altered from their real-life counterparts.

That argument can work for Shanghai, too. Actually, that works better for Shanghai, because they usually only change the physical characteristics of the region. Compare Kanto region to Kanto in Japan. They can warp the physical aspects of the region, but rarely do they make a change as big as smothering a whole load of city and making up a mountain range.

Kirbychu
July 14th, 2010, 07:36 PM
That argument can work for Shanghai, too. Actually, that works better for Shanghai, because they usually only change the physical characteristics of the region. Compare Kanto region to Kanto in Japan. They can warp the physical aspects of the region, but rarely do they make a change as big as smothering a whole load of city and making up a mountain range.
But the mountains on the eastern side of Isshu don't seem to match up with Shanghai either, and Manhattan has a rectangular shape that matches up to Isshu as is. Shanghai has to be distorted just to fit.

Here is Shanghai's real position and shape.
http://i28.tinypic.com/11qgvbr.png
New York is rectangular, Shanghai is like a triangle.

Ninja Caterpie
July 14th, 2010, 07:53 PM
"Pokemon regions are always altered from their real-life counterparts."

Fact is, both are equally likely. New York with its physical shape, Shanghai with its urban-ness shape.

valor555
July 14th, 2010, 07:57 PM
yeah but there is a difference between "altered" and Distorted, altered you make a few tweaks here and there (NYC), distorted you need to completely reshape it (Shanghai)

Haza
July 14th, 2010, 07:59 PM
I was doing my best to avoid coming into this thread and saying this but Isshu is most likely largely influenced by America and our cites. Keep arguing it MistahDude and MRAS!

Ninja Caterpie
July 14th, 2010, 07:59 PM
Nintendo's distorted every area they've based a region off, bar Sinnoh. Go compare Kanto region with Kanto in Japan, then Johto with the block of land next to it. I honestly don't see much of a resemblance, especially with Johto.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 08:17 PM
I was doing my best to avoid coming into this thread and saying this but Isshu is most likely largely influenced by America and our cites. Keep arguing it MistahDude and MRAS!Yeah well America has been influencing china ;)

rocky505
July 14th, 2010, 08:19 PM
Also about Wooguru you can see a red star around the head dress so that must make it a bald eagle for sure.

Haza
July 14th, 2010, 08:20 PM
America influences the entire world more than anyone wants to admit... anyway, this region starting at Route 1? It's apparent that they really were going for a rebirth of the franchise.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 08:21 PM
Also about Wooguru you can see a red star around the head dress so that must make it a bald eagle for sure.
That isn't much of a star but if it was it would be a sign of China which is represented by a red star...

Haza
July 14th, 2010, 08:26 PM
That isn't much of a star but if it was it would be a sign of China which is represented by a red star...

On a Native American headdress, thats likely :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Well don't forget that they made Jewish based pokemon those being : The 4 Regis, The weather Trio oh and Shaymin which is named after one of the heavens... That doesn't mean that Hoenn and Sinnoh were in Israel does it?

Kirbychu
July 14th, 2010, 08:28 PM
I was doing my best to avoid coming into this thread and saying this but Isshu is most likely largely influenced by America and our cites. Keep arguing it MistahDude and MRAS!
What about meh? D: (http://thelaughbag.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/sad-cat-sad-funny-animals-kitty-d0bad0bed182-animals_large.jpg)

Nintendo's distorted every area they've based a region off, bar Sinnoh. Go compare Kanto region with Kanto in Japan, then Johto with the block of land next to it. I honestly don't see much of a resemblance, especially with Johto.
Trusting the information from this page (http://heisstack.blogspot.com/2007/02/google-earth-pokemon.html) they look like they've haven't had such a drastic alteration as Shanghai to Isshu, Kanto's probably the biggest change.

I still think the New York skyline at the top of Masuda's blog has some relevance to Black and White. 3:

rocky505
July 14th, 2010, 08:29 PM
I thought China was a Yellow Star?

Haza
July 14th, 2010, 08:31 PM
Well don't forget that they made Jewish based pokemon those being : The 4 Regis, The weather Trio oh and Shaymin which is named after one of the heavens... That doesn't mean that Hoenn and Sinnoh were in Israel does it?

Lol, but Wooguru is blatant symbolism of America, besides, there is no star to even talk about :P

Oh, and Kirbychu!

BeachBoy
July 14th, 2010, 08:32 PM
Yeah, agreeing with Kirbychu.

Personally, I think the developers heard Jay-Z and were hooked.
bm61weFrK4c
Waiting for the Isshu parody. >_>

Haza
July 14th, 2010, 08:33 PM
Yeah, agreeing with Kirbychu.

Personally, I think the developers heard Jay-Z and were hooked.
bm61weFrK4c
Waiting for the Isshu parody. >_>

This post is a everything! Lmao... "In Hiuuuuuuuuuun!"

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 08:33 PM
What about meh? D:


Trusting the information from this page (http://heisstack.blogspot.com/2007/02/google-earth-pokemon.html) they look like they've haven't had such a drastic alteration as Shanghai to Isshu, Kanto's probably the biggest change.

I still think the New York skyline at the top of Masuda's blog has some relevance to Black and White. 3:

Maybe they just based Huin on NYC like they based Sootopolis on a greek city whose name I forgot...but the Geography is that of Shanghai similar to Isshu also the rest of the region is based on Shanghai like how the geography of Hoenn is based on Kyushu but Sootopolis isn't based on a Japanese town :)

flight
July 14th, 2010, 08:35 PM
Yeah, agreeing with Kirbychu.

Personally, I think the developers heard Jay-Z and were hooked.
bm61weFrK4c
Waiting for the Isshu parody. >_>

Jay-Z? In my pokemanz? Impossible. :(

Just curious Beachy, would you actually get these games if they literally had jay-z music in them?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 08:37 PM
Haha Jay-Z that's funny :P

valor555
July 14th, 2010, 08:37 PM
NO JUST NO! NO NEED FOR JAY-Z (Alicia Keys was great though) He would have ruined it for us -.-. They were obviously listening to the piano man himself Billy Joel.

Kirbychu
July 14th, 2010, 08:39 PM
Maybe they just based Huin on NYC like they based Sootopolis on a greek city whose name I forgot...but the Geography is that of Shanghai similar to Isshu also the rest of the region is based on Shanghai like how the geography of Hoenn is based on Kyushu but Sootopolis isn't based on a Japanese town :)
This is possible, but I don't think they'd showcase a city like that so early, and Santorini Greece is the place you were thinking of. :3


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Look at what those guys are wearing. They either have really bad taste in clothing, or they're hinting something.

rocky505
July 14th, 2010, 08:42 PM
They should start making region flags for each of the regions that would be cool.

Haza
July 14th, 2010, 08:43 PM
All of this New York talk has me listening to Nicki Minaj right now, and I'm gonna hit you with a Massive Attack if you talk bad about her! :P

Anyway, Isshu could be just like Hoenn, with towns and cities from places other than just Asia. The focal point is still New York IMO! #ArrogantAmerican

valor555
July 14th, 2010, 08:47 PM
I would love it to be set in NYC but i'm just happy for some kind of change. So i am ok with where ever it is set ^^

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 14th, 2010, 09:21 PM
All of this New York talk has me listening to Nicki Minaj right now, and I'm gonna hit you with a Massive Attack if you talk bad about her! :P

Anyway, Isshu could be just like Hoenn, with towns and cities from places other than just Asia. The focal point is still New York IMO! #ArrogantAmerican
Yeah I don't mind if it's in Shanghai but I also want to see NYC it's would be great if we got both :)

Zet
July 15th, 2010, 01:29 AM
ITT: Isshu isn't based on NYC


Because Isshu doesn't have an island in the middle of it, while NYC does. So logically speaking, Shanghai is the best candidate right now.

Hard to the face the facts, y/y?

Haza
July 15th, 2010, 01:47 AM
ITT: Isshu isn't based on NYC


Because Isshu doesn't have an island in the middle of it, while NYC does. So logically speaking, Shanghai is the best candidate right now.

Hard to the face the facts, y/y?

It was said before that Hiun City is based on Manhattan... that was the most solid to me when they had the picture to picture comparisons. as an entire region I guess it could kind of resemble Shanghai but Shanghai looks extremely dull in all of the pics I just googled.

Zet
July 15th, 2010, 01:48 AM
It was said before that Hiun City is based on Manhattan... that was the most solid to me when they had the picture to picture comparisons. as an entire region I guess it could kind of resemble Shanghai but Shanghai looks extremely dull in all of the pics I just googled.

It was speculated, and not proven from a legit source.

Haza
July 15th, 2010, 01:53 AM
It was speculated, and not proven from a legit source.

Obviously, I surely didn't mean it as fact since I went on to mention Shanghai. This entire thread is speculation... I know what's fact and established and what's not.

Random Question: Do they ever even really reveal where each region is based on?

Magic
July 15th, 2010, 04:11 AM
I don't see why there's still an argument for NYC XD.

There are big buildings and docks?

Is it just me who realises most cities have tall buildings, and most cities by the sea have access to water? The fact it resembles NYC is just because you want it to, in reality Hiun City is very generalised and could be almost anywhere in the world.

The shape of the region makes me inclined to Shanghai, it just looks right. It's also "Far away" from the other regions but not too far.

Introducing Pokémon to an 'american' region would be a bit weird to be honest :\ the culture is totally different and it would just feel odd.

In the case of a bird, it's a bald eagle with an item of interest from it's habitat. It isn't a sign that Isshu MUST be America in anyway.

Ninja Caterpie
July 15th, 2010, 04:57 AM
I forget to mention that one American thing doesn't make the region American.

Wooguru is an eagle with what looks like a native american headress. Complete speculation.
Lt. Surge is an American.

That doesn't make Kanto in America, does it?

So yeah, just trying to knock down "AMERICAN EAGLE MEANS REGION IS AMERICAN!!!!!!!111"

Magic
July 15th, 2010, 05:04 AM
I forget to mention that one American thing doesn't make the region American.

Wooguru is an eagle with what looks like a native american headress. Complete speculation.
Lt. Surge is an American.

That doesn't make Kanto in America, does it?

So yeah, just trying to knock down "AMERICAN EAGLE MEANS REGION IS AMERICAN!!!!!!!111"

Also Bidoof = Beaver = American :3 Maybe that's the secret symbol in Pokémon for the US XD

Resultz
July 15th, 2010, 05:08 AM
I'd like to see More than 8 gym tows and have Maybe Huin have multiple gyms, or districts, each the size of a regular town.

I'd also like to see a region map.

Cjdamon042
July 15th, 2010, 05:56 AM
I think parts of the region look very American, such as the bridge coming off the east side of Huin City, along with Huin City itself looking very NYC-ish IMO, and also there's Wooguru that also looks like it belongs to America.

The shape of the region though looks to be a mix of NYC and Shanghai, so it's difficult to pin-point exactly where Isshu is based on. I'm not too bothered either way what Isshu's shape is based on, as it really doesn't excuse the fact the region as a whole looks completely random and here, there and everywhere.

rocky505
July 15th, 2010, 07:21 AM
ITT: Isshu isn't based on NYC


Because Isshu doesn't have an island in the middle of it, while NYC does. So logically speaking, Shanghai is the best candidate right now.

Hard to the face the facts, y/y? ITT: Isshu isn't based on Shanghai.

Zackraa
July 15th, 2010, 07:35 AM
ITT: Isshu isn't based on Shanghai.

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8121/1279106273236.th.png (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/1279106273236.png/) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9204/1279105841189.th.png (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/1279105841189.png/) http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1638/1279104707795.th.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/1279104707795.jpg/)
just to get the point across again =P

rocky505
July 15th, 2010, 07:38 AM
Wow pictures -_- well guess what New York has just as much to prove it is Isshu.

Zackraa
July 15th, 2010, 07:42 AM
Wow pictures -_- well guess what New York has just as much to prove it is Isshu.

you have pictures of bridges matching new york to isshu? pictures of the overhead geography matching new york to isshu?

Isshu is based in China and Hiun city is Shanghai

rocky505
July 15th, 2010, 07:46 AM
you have pictures of bridges matching new york to isshu? pictures of the overhead geography matching new york to isshu?

Isshu is based in China and Hiun city is Shanghai Remember it is far away not the next country over. And there is nothing confirmed where Isshu is so you can't just say it is Shanghai. Remember it is FAR away so that pretty much takes Shanghai off the list.

Zackraa
July 15th, 2010, 07:50 AM
Remember it is far away not the next country over. And there is nothing confirmed where Isshu is so you can't just say it is Shanghai. Remember it is FAR away so that pretty much takes Shanghai off the list.

far away in the Pokemon world not far away in our world =\

valor555
July 15th, 2010, 07:51 AM
you do realize there are real world countries in the pokemon world. They have mentioned South America in the games and the anime. I believe they also mentioned Antarctica.

they also straight mentioned NA in the first movie, but that might have just been for localization :P "Vikings come from Minnesota"
no one really no knows unless they work at nintendo which i doubt anyone here does -.-

Magic
July 15th, 2010, 07:54 AM
Remember it is far away not the next country over. And there is nothing confirmed where Isshu is so you can't just say it is Shanghai. Remember it is FAR away so that pretty much takes Shanghai off the list.

There are several HUNDRED miles between Shanghai and "Hoenn" in the real world. I'd say that's pretty far away.

Just googlemapped it :) Over 900km

rocky505
July 15th, 2010, 07:55 AM
far away in the Pokemon world not far away in our world =\ If it isn't the real world then why is South America and North America mentioned in the games and Anime?

Zackraa
July 15th, 2010, 07:58 AM
If it isn't the real world then why is South America and North America mentioned in the games and Anime?

bad localization everyone knows watching the anime in Japanese is superior

There are several HUNDRED miles between Shanghai and "Hoenn" in the real world. I'd say that's pretty far away.

Just googlemapped it :) Over 900km

japan is far enough away from china for japan to have believed for the longest time that they were alone in this world

rocky505
July 15th, 2010, 08:00 AM
bad localization everyone knows watching the anime in Japanese is superior

Again read what I said they are mentioned in the GAMES and the anime. South America is mentioned on Cinnabar Island and North America is mentioned by Lt. Surge.

Kirbychu
July 15th, 2010, 08:57 AM
you have pictures of bridges matching new york to isshu? pictures of the overhead geography matching new york to isshu?

Isshu is based in China and Hiun city is Shanghai
Are you seriously trying to convince me that these triangular shaped peninsula is Isshu?
http://www.willgoto.com/images/Size3/China_Shanghai_Region_map_89880b588c8a4d08bcf31c925e86c0ed.jpg

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2010/163/4/1/Isshu_is_New_York__New_Jersey_by_KyogreMaster.png

No, I am not biased against America, that assumption is so stupid that I have no idea why I'm even addressing that.

Anyways, back to the Shanghai vs. New York thing, New York has that nice rectangular shape, while Shanghai has to be tilted and its shaped like a triangle. To be honest, the bridges are the only thing the Shanghai theory has going for it. :/

Zackraa
July 15th, 2010, 11:11 AM
ITT: Americans in denial that Isshu is based in China, Hiun is Shanghai and that Wooguru is a Chinese eagle

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 11:18 AM
ITT: Americans in denial that Isshu is based in China, Hiun is Shanghai and that Wooguru is a Chinese eagle
I know, seems like me and you are the only Americans not in denial of Isshu being based on China, and not the New York area :D

Kirbychu
July 15th, 2010, 11:19 AM
ITT: Americans in denial that Isshu is based in China, Hiun is Shanghai and that Wooguru is a Chinese eagle
This is clearly the case. I will just die if a place in a video game doesn't take place completely across the country from me. >.>

Do you happen to have any information disproving the New York theory, or anything supporting Shanghai for that matter?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 01:02 PM
This is clearly the case. I will just die if a place in a video game doesn't take place completely across the country from me. >.>

Do you happen to have any information disproving the New York theory, or anything supporting Shanghai for that matter?
Well 2ch was the one that showed the Shanghai theory...

SehCure
July 15th, 2010, 01:04 PM
The starting town, like all pokemon games, is a rustic, rural type of area which I think is great.
Its like a tradition of sorts...
The city looks really cool and detailed, as does the cave.

I cant wait ;oo

valor555
July 15th, 2010, 01:09 PM
hmmm if it is in NYC and the starting town is to the north east near some mountains i can pretend it's my home town ^^

Magic
July 15th, 2010, 01:19 PM
hmmm if it is in NYC and the starting town is to the north east near some mountains i can pretend it's my home town ^^

The starting town is the bottom right :) Theres a labelled map on one of the Corocoro scans showing it.

valor555
July 15th, 2010, 01:21 PM
now i am sad ;-; i'll never get to be a pokemon master now

Kirbychu
July 15th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Well 2ch was the one that showed the Shanghai theory...
I believe it popped up on Bulbagarden first. I've seen Shanghai theories there and on Gamefaqs for a couple weeks now. I really don't see the resemblance and Junichi Masuda's blog (http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/) has to be somewhat relevant.

Haza
July 15th, 2010, 02:58 PM
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8121/1279106273236.th.png (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/1279106273236.png/) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9204/1279105841189.th.png (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/1279105841189.png/) http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1638/1279104707795.th.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/1279104707795.jpg/)
just to get the point across again =P

Best case for Shanghai presented yet, but it's just as good a the one for Manhattan posted by Kirbychu...

Oh, nevermind, Kirbychu giving the pic to pic comparisons makes mean lean towards Manhattan more... its more spot on with rivers an bridges!

Storm_has_formed
July 15th, 2010, 03:07 PM
why is the place that it is based important? I wonder if the map revealed so far is the full map?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 03:10 PM
Well the rivers are shaped more like those of Shanghai though maybe they really did put NYC with Shanghai like I said and put the bridge from NYC into Shanghai :)

Kirbychu
July 15th, 2010, 03:12 PM
why is the place that it is based important? I wonder if the map revealed so far is the full map?
It doesn't matter at all, doesn't mean we can't have a nice little debate about it. There's no real point in all this speculation in general, but we do it anyway.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 03:16 PM
It doesn't matter at all, doesn't mean we can't have a nice little debate about it. There's no real point in all this speculation in general, but we do it anyway.
yeah it's fun to compare the pokeworld to the real world :)

Astinus
July 15th, 2010, 04:37 PM
why is the place that it is based important?
Because Pokemon is serious business. Because Pokemon fans can argue about everything.

I'm still leaning towards Isshu being based on America because I'm American and we're that egotistical! because of the geographical makeup of Isshu. It has a lot of features in common with America, like the desert, two mountain ranges, the lake, two rivers, etc.

But really, it doesn't matter to me where the region is based on.

Storm_has_formed
July 15th, 2010, 04:41 PM
It doesn't matter at all, doesn't mean we can't have a nice little debate about it. There's no real point in all this speculation in general, but we do it anyway.
true, it's probably just one of the fun facts about a game that people love to know

TrainerShane
July 15th, 2010, 04:41 PM
far away in the Pokemon world not far away in our world =\

I'll agree with this.
Just like I'll agree that geographic similarities mean absolutely nothing atm.

It doesn't matter in the damn slightest if it is based on America, China, my grandmother's wrinkles or the dreams of a Hypno.

What I do want to know is where we think the routes would take us, from start to end.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 05:01 PM
Because Pokemon is serious business. Because Pokemon fans can argue about everything.

I'm still leaning towards Isshu being based on America because I'm American and we're that egotistical! because of the geographical makeup of Isshu. It has a lot of features in common with America, like the desert, two mountain ranges, the lake, two rivers, etc.

But really, it doesn't matter to me where the region is based on.
Well china has a desert too(the Gobi desert), two rivers and mountains, a lake,etc. so it's still not settled...
Yeah I want to know who many routes we will have too.

Iceman3317
July 15th, 2010, 05:10 PM
Just looking at the map we have. I am goign to say we ahve approximantly 25.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Just like Gen I and III kanto :)

Iceman3317
July 15th, 2010, 05:24 PM
It's hard to tell. There is still a lot of possable routes around the mountains and northern part of the map. Plus if the docks do go to another island then that even more.

rocky505
July 15th, 2010, 08:25 PM
ITT: Americans in denial that Isshu is based in China, Hiun is Shanghai and that Wooguru is a Chinese eagle Why the heck would a red white and blue white headed eagle with a head dress by a Chinese eagle. It is a bald eagle. Bald Eagle were worshiped by native americans which explains the head dress and it is red white and blue which explains it being a bald eagle and it's head is also white just like a bald eagle. USA all the way. (Also I see no great wall of China so it can't be in China) jk.

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 08:37 PM
Why the heck would a red white and blue white headed eagle with a head dress by a Chinese eagle. It is a bald eagle. Bald Eagle were worshiped by native americans which explains the head dress and it is red white and blue which explains it being a bald eagle and it's head is also white just like a bald eagle. USA all the way. (Also I see no great wall of China so it can't be in China) jk.

Reasons why Wooguru/Wargle screams America:
1) Bald Eagle is the symbol of America
2) Red, White, and Blue are the colors of America
3) Native American Headdress is on his head
4) Name is a fusion between War and Eagle. Americans are known for devastating war power.
5) Has the same build of a Bald Eagle
6) PICTURE:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/194/4/7/5th_Gen__Pokemon__Wooguru_by_Ultimatepkmnfan.pnghttp://www.tobinphoto.com/images/photos/bald_eagle.jpg


Well china has a desert too(the Gobi desert), two rivers and mountains, a lake,etc. so it's still not settled...
Yeah I want to know who many routes we will have too.

Why would Nintendo possibly put a American bird in China? It makes no sense.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 09:26 PM
Reasons why Wooguru/Wargle screams America:
1) Bald Eagle is the symbol of America
2) Red, White, and Blue are the colors of America
3) Native American Headdress is on his head
4) Name is a fusion between War and Eagle. Americans are known for devastating war power.
5) Has the same build of a Bald Eagle
6) PICTURE:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/194/4/7/5th_Gen__Pokemon__Wooguru_by_Ultimatepkmnfan.pnghttp://www.tobinphoto.com/images/photos/bald_eagle.jpg



Why would Nintendo possibly put a American bird in China? It makes no sense.
The Geography matters more than that pokemon and Shanghai's geography matches more that of Isshu than of New york , like I said beforethe Regi's are a Hebrew symbol did that mean that Hoenn was in Israel? No Hoenn was in Japan :P

Yamikarasu
July 15th, 2010, 09:32 PM
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Pokemon-NYC.jpg

So why do people not think it's based on New York after seeing this? Huin City is exactly where the big, iconic financial district of New York City is located. There are corresponding islands in the Issue region for the real-world islands off the coast.

As if this were an issue of "OMG I'M AN AMERICAN SO F-YEAH GO AMERICUH!" If someone else can present better evidence then this then so be it.

EDIT: Sorry, I wasn't aware of the possibility it could be Shanghai. Still, I think that Isshu being "far away" makes it more likely to be New York City, and Wooguru does look a lot like a bald eagle.

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 09:37 PM
The Geography matters more than that pokemon and Shanghai's geography matches more that of Isshu than of New york , like I said beforethe Regi's are a Hebrew symbol did that mean that Hoenn was in Israel? No Hoenn was in Japan :P

Isshu fits ALL of america more than just New york. Heck it could be all of North America.

Also, it could be BASED off of America. It doesn't mean everything has to be where it is supposed to be. Hiun city is obviously Baltimore. Baltimore is the greatest port city in America.

There is the Golden Gate bridge in Isshu, and thats in San Francisco, California.

There is a large desert which is Arizona or even Mexico. The towns near the Mountains could be Montana and Idaho.

There are two mountain ranges. Those could be the Rocky Mountains and the other could be the Appalachian Mountains.

The carnival area could very well be Coney Island.

Wooguru being based off of American symbols adds to this theory.

Zet
July 15th, 2010, 09:37 PM
Reasons why Wooguru/Wargle screams America:
1) Bald Eagle is the symbol of America
2) Red, White, and Blue are the colors of America
3) Native American Headdress is on his head
4) Name is a fusion between War and Eagle. Americans are known for devastating war power.
5) Has the same build of a Bald Eagle
6) PICTURE:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/194/4/7/5th_Gen__Pokemon__Wooguru_by_Ultimatepkmnfan.pnghttp://www.tobinphoto.com/images/photos/bald_eagle.jpg


Why would Nintendo possibly put a American bird in China? It makes no sense.

What about the Americanized creatures that are already in the regions that are based on Japan? Your theory has now been disproved, please stop screaming "HELL YEAAAHHH!!!11!1 ISSHU IS AMERICA BECAUSE OF THE EAGLE WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN AMERICA AND A FEW OTHER COUNTRIES BUT SCREW THEM WE ARE BETTER111!!!!!!". And geological makeup says it's Shanghai, but despite the fact that it's far away it could indicate that it's really England or some other place in Europe.

Isshu fits ALL of america more than just New york. Heck it could be all of North America.

Also, it could be BASED off of America. It doesn't mean everything has to be where it is supposed to be. Hiun city is obviously Baltimore. Baltimore is the greatest port city in America.

There is the Golden Gate bridge in Isshu, and thats in San Francisco, California.

There is a large desert which is Arizona or even Mexico. The towns near the Mountains could be Montana and Idaho.

There are two mountain ranges. Those could be the Rocky Mountains and the other could be the Appalachian Mountains.

The carnival area could very well be Coney Island.

Wooguru being based off of American symbols adds to this theory.

You're really in denial that it isn't your low technology Country, aren't you?

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 09:38 PM
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Pokemon-NYC.jpg

So why do people not think it's based on New York after seeing this? Huin City is exactly where the big, iconic financial district of New York City is located. There are corresponding islands in the Issue region for the real-world islands off the coast.

As if this were an issue of "OMG I'M AN AMERICAN SO F-YEAH GO AMERICUH!" If someone else can present better evidence then this then so be it.

I dont think its just New York. Its more likely to be all of America, sort of like the Orre region.

What about the Americanized creatures that are already in the regions that are based on Japan? Your theory has now been disproved, please stop screaming "HELL YEAAAHHH!!!11!1 ISSHU IS AMERICA BECAUSE OF THE EAGLE WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN AMERICA AND A FEW OTHER COUNTRIES BUT SCREW THEM WE ARE BETTER111!!!!!!". And geological makeup says it's Shanghai, but despite the fact that it's far away it could indicate that it's really England or some other place in Europe.



You're really in denial that it isn't your lower class Country, aren't you?

Lower class country? You cant just say all of a country acts or lives in the same way. Dont start flame wars.

I never said "HELL YEAAAHHH!!!11!1 ISSHU IS AMERICA BECAUSE OF THE EAGLE WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN AMERICA AND A FEW OTHER COUNTRIES BUT SCREW THEM WE ARE BETTER111!!!!!!"

Zet
July 15th, 2010, 09:42 PM
I dont think its just New York. Its more likely to be all of America, sort of like the Orre region.



Lower class country? Dont start flame wars.

I never said "HELL YEAAAHHH!!!11!1 ISSHU IS AMERICA BECAUSE OF THE EAGLE WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN AMERICA AND A FEW OTHER COUNTRIES BUT SCREW THEM WE ARE BETTER111!!!!!!"

I'm not starting flame wars, merely stating that your technology isn't that great, seeing as how China makes everything for you. And I know you didn't say that, it's pretty much that you're in denial that there's a very high chance that Isshu isn't based on America.

rocky505
July 15th, 2010, 09:44 PM
China doesn't make everything. Taiwan Mexico and Japan do as well heck even America makes things.

Kirbychu
July 15th, 2010, 09:46 PM
Is bashing America the "cool" thing to do in third-world countries? Isshu simply doesn't look like Shanghai. :/

If you can find a place in the world that actually resembles Isshu, I'll take that into consideration as well.

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 09:47 PM
China doesn't make everything. Taiwan Mexico and Japan do as well heck even America makes things.

Those places make things for us but we give them the designs and specifications most of the time.

Anyway back on topic:

Isshu could just be random and made up geography wise.

Haza
July 15th, 2010, 10:03 PM
I'm not starting flame wars, merely stating that your technology isn't that great, seeing as how China makes everything for you. And I know you didn't say that, it's pretty much that you're in denial that there's a very high chance that Isshu isn't based on America.

That would easily start a flame war, someone could easily comeback at you mentioning how insignificant Australia with its Kangaroos and boomerangs is. Don't be nasty, you need us. :)
Also, the reason we have things made overseas is because we can pay them a lot less to make them... not design them.

Anyway, Isshu could easily be based on nothing, or it could be a place that we have not considered.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 10:09 PM
Wow I read an article about BW in the site of troops and it had the category: Internet Backdraft and it seems that's what's happening here sadly...
OK I'll stop saying it's based on Shanghai if people stop saying it's based on America let's just ignore that for now and talk about the cool mountains they have.
I can imagine finding Snorunt and Snover there :)

Ninja Caterpie
July 15th, 2010, 10:10 PM
Why would Nintendo possibly put a American bird in China? It makes no sense.
Lt. Surge is in Kanto. Your point is irrelevant.

There's too much city in New York for Isshu to be based off it, too much land in Shanghai. It is not America in general, they don't do something like that. They build it off areas, not giant landmasses.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 15th, 2010, 10:14 PM
Lt. Surge is in Kanto. Your point is irrelevant.

There's too much city in New York for Isshu to be based off it, too much land in Shanghai. It is not America in general, they don't do something like that. They build it off areas, not giant landmasses.Well Hoenn is based on a huge land mass as far as Islands go...

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 10:17 PM
Lt. Surge is in Kanto. Your point is irrelevant.

There's too much city in New York for Isshu to be based off it, too much land in Shanghai. It is not America in general, they don't do something like that. They build it off areas, not giant landmasses.

Hmm that makes sense man.

Ninja Caterpie
July 15th, 2010, 10:23 PM
Well Hoenn is based on a huge land mass as far as Islands go...

Well, not really. It's based on Kyushu, Japan's southern-most main island.

It's probably either New York or Shanghai, but both have equal points going for and against it, we're at a complete standstill here. Let's just move on, yeah?

The world map looks stupid. A hexagon?

Haza
July 15th, 2010, 10:27 PM
Lt. Surge is in Kanto. Your point is irrelevant.

There's too much city in New York for Isshu to be based off it, too much land in Shanghai. It is not America in general, they don't do something like that. They build it off areas, not giant landmasses.

That's why Manhattan was specified had you been reading... and looking at the pictures.
Anyway, since the city (Hiun City) is surrounded by water I wonder if the surrounding Pokmeon will be somewhat urban, and DEFORMED from pollution! :P

Also, I'm watching The Wiz right now and Emerald City could be the basis of Isshu with it's tall buildings and bridge :O #sarcasm

Bloothump
July 15th, 2010, 10:29 PM
Wow. Why would a children's game cause people to insult each other's intelligence and places of origin in a blatantly rude manner? Oh yeah, because we're pokemon fans. Guys, chill out. This is nothing more than a game, and whether it's based off of New York City/USA/North America or Shanghai/China, the quality of the game won't decrease in any way. Personally, I find both arguments very valid after considering both sides.

The Shanghai area is closer to Japan in proximity and culture, and it has the circular lake which looks very similar to the pokeball lake in Isshu. Likewise, Isshu's skinny and rectangular shape matches that of Manhattan a little more than the Shanghai area's, and the red bridge resembles the Golden Gate quite a bit.

I do not think Woogoru supports the America theory in any way, but I am almost positive he is a bald eagle as opposed to a Chinese eagle.

And I don't think the American PC users here are suggesting Manhattan only because they think they're the greatest, or they want it for selfish reasons or egotistical notions. In fact, the users supporting America seem to be more respectful than the Shanghai supporters, and well, Team Shanghai seems to be stating their views as fact when nothing is confirmed yet. (If anything, it seems to me, a lot of people supporting Shanghai because they DON'T want it to be America).

As it's been said, people only see what they want to see, and it works on both sides of the spectrum. So again, nothing is confirmed, both sides are equally plausible, let's all be respectful. Kthx.

Kirbychu
July 15th, 2010, 10:31 PM
That's why Manhattan was specified had you been reading... and looking at the pictures.
Anyway, since the city (Hiun City) is surrounded by water I wonder if the surrounding Pokmeon will be somewhat urban, and DEFORMED from pollution! :P
I'll love this game forever if they throw Pokemon like Koffing and Grimer in Hiun. They should have a new type of Pokemon like shinies. There can be two-headed Grumpigs, and Mareeps with 5 legs.

rocky505
July 15th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Lt. Surge is in Kanto. Your point is irrelevant.

There's too much city in New York for Isshu to be based off it, too much land in Shanghai. It is not America in general, they don't do something like that. They build it off areas, not giant landmasses. There's too much city in Tokyo to fit in kanto but guess what it did.

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 10:34 PM
Well, not really. It's based on Kyushu, Japan's southern-most main island.

It's probably either New York or Shanghai, but both have equal points going for and against it, we're at a complete standstill here. Let's just move on, yeah?

The world map looks stupid. A hexagon?

We haven't seen the actual in game map, only the concept art.

Bay Alexison
July 15th, 2010, 10:44 PM
Wow. Why would a children's game cause people to insult each other's intelligence and places of origin in a blatantly rude manner? Oh yeah, because we're pokemon fans. Guys, chill out. This is nothing more than a game, and whether it's based off of New York City/USA/North America or Shanghai/China, the quality of the game won't decrease in any way. Personally, I find both arguments very valid after considering both sides.

The Shanghai area is closer to Japan in proximity and culture, and it has the circular lake which looks very similar to the pokeball lake in Isshu. Likewise, Isshu's skinny and rectangular shape matches that of Manhattan a little more than the Shanghai area's, and the red bridge resembles the Golden Gate quite a bit.

I do not think Woogoru supports the America theory in any way, but I am almost positive he is a bald eagle as opposed to a Chinese eagle.

And I don't think the American PC users here are suggesting Manhattan only because they think they're the greatest, or they want it for selfish reasons or egotistical notions. In fact, the users supporting America seem to be more respectful than the Shanghai supporters, and well, Team Shanghai seems to be stating their views as fact when nothing is confirmed yet. (If anything, it seems to me, a lot of people supporting Shanghai because they DON'T want it to be America).

As it's been said, people only see what they want to see, and it works on both sides of the spectrum. So again, nothing is confirmed, both sides are equally plausible, let's all be respectful. Kthx.
Seriously, couldn't have said better. To me, Isshu has similarities to Shanghai and New York, but I didn't really care. All I care about is Isshu being a good region and having interesting locations. In fact, it already peaked my interest with the news of White Forest and Black City.

We haven't seen the actual in game map, only the concept art.
True, but it could be the chance the actual in game map will look more/less so like the concept art. And hexagon is a good shape! D:

Haza
July 15th, 2010, 10:45 PM
I'll love this game forever if they throw Pokemon like Koffing and Grimer in Hiun. They should have a new type of Pokemon like shinies. There can be two-headed Grumpigs, and Mareeps with 5 legs.

OMG! Three Horned HOUNDOOMS! Lol

but yes, I agree that we've reached a standstill, and as usual it became another excuse to bash us Americans...

Kirbychu
July 15th, 2010, 10:47 PM
Thank god for America. =P

We haven't seen the actual in game map, only the concept art.
We've actually seen the top half of it.

http://pokebeach.com/news/0710/corocoro-passing-by.jpg

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Thank god for America. =P


We've actually seen the top half of it.

http://pokebeach.com/news/0710/corocoro-passing-by.jpg

I severely doubt thats the actual in game map. There are so many areas left out.

Bloothump
July 15th, 2010, 10:52 PM
Thank god for America. =P


We've actually seen the top half of it.

http://pokebeach.com/news/0710/corocoro-passing-by.jpg

From the looks of it, I would say that the region map has a system where you can zoom in on different areas. they left out the left and right sections of Isshu.

Kirbychu
July 15th, 2010, 10:52 PM
I severely doubt thats the actual in game map. There are so many areas left out.
I believe that the map has something to do with High Link. Maybe it demonstrates the places you can teleport to help out friends?

Bay Alexison
July 15th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Thank god for America. =P


We've actually seen the top half of it.

http://pokebeach.com/news/0710/corocoro-passing-by.jpg
Like MistahDude I doubt it too. On the other hand, it could be the chance the game enhance the map feature. Too bad CoroCoro didn't say anything if that pic is the game map, as far as I can tell. >.>

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 11:29 PM
Like MistahDude I doubt it too. On the other hand, it could be the chance the game enhance the map feature. Too bad CoroCoro didn't say anything if that pic is the game map, as far as I can tell. >.>

I somehow think they would keep the same in game map style that previous games had. The orange bars being land routes, red squares are cities and blue rectangles are water routes.

Ninja Caterpie
July 15th, 2010, 11:35 PM
I somehow think they would keep the same in game map style that previous games had. The orange bars being land routes, red squares are cities and blue rectangles are water routes.

Well, the didn't really keep that for HGSS, did they?

With all the big changes, I actually don't think they'll do a grid-map. I think it'll be a dynamic map, with you just tapping a spot on the map and zooming in like that. or something.

MistahDude
July 15th, 2010, 11:51 PM
Well, the didn't really keep that for HGSS, did they?

With all the big changes, I actually don't think they'll do a grid-map. I think it'll be a dynamic map, with you just tapping a spot on the map and zooming in like that. or something.

its still basically the same thing.

Swolligator
July 16th, 2010, 12:54 AM
Well, with this so called "Master Document" coming out in CoroCoro next month, is bound to have a full map of Isshu on it.



Wow. Why would a children's game cause people to insult each other's intelligence and places of origin in a blatantly rude manner? Oh yeah, because we're pokemon fans. Guys, chill out. This is nothing more than a game, and whether it's based off of New York City/USA/North America or Shanghai/China, the quality of the game won't decrease in any way. Personally, I find both arguments very valid after considering both sides.

The Shanghai area is closer to Japan in proximity and culture, and it has the circular lake which looks very similar to the pokeball lake in Isshu. Likewise, Isshu's skinny and rectangular shape matches that of Manhattan a little more than the Shanghai area's, and the red bridge resembles the Golden Gate quite a bit.

I do not think Woogoru supports the America theory in any way, but I am almost positive he is a bald eagle as opposed to a Chinese eagle.

And I don't think the American PC users here are suggesting Manhattan only because they think they're the greatest, or they want it for selfish reasons or egotistical notions. In fact, the users supporting America seem to be more respectful than the Shanghai supporters, and well, Team Shanghai seems to be stating their views as fact when nothing is confirmed yet. (If anything, it seems to me, a lot of people supporting Shanghai because they DON'T want it to be America).

As it's been said, people only see what they want to see, and it works on both sides of the spectrum. So again, nothing is confirmed, both sides are equally plausible, let's all be respectful. Kthx.



like bay, couldnt have said it better myself. does it really matter where it is? as long as the gameplay is good, it could be based on Congo for all I care.

Iceman3317
July 16th, 2010, 04:52 AM
That's not the complete map.

This is. Bottom is hard to see.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/iceman3317/Map.png


Also what do you mean Hoenn was based ona a island? Hoenn is also in Japan.

Ninja Caterpie
July 16th, 2010, 05:16 AM
Also what do you mean Hoenn was based ona a island? Hoenn is also in Japan.

Yes. The southern-most large island of Japan.
http://www.tanarmy.com/image/manchuria/kyushu.gif

Iceman3317
July 16th, 2010, 05:21 AM
Oh ok. Guess I read it wrong. Sorry for getting off topic.

Kirbychu
July 16th, 2010, 07:44 AM
I believe that the map has something to do with High Link. Maybe it demonstrates the places you can teleport to help out friends?
I'm quoting this because I might have accurately predicted something that's real for once. Serebii says that you can't enter places like Route 1 and Hiun with High Link, so this very well may be just the High Link map.

Bay Alexison
July 16th, 2010, 07:54 AM
I'm quoting this because I might have accurately predicted something that's real for once. Serebii says that you can't enter places like Route 1 and Hiun with High Link, so this very well may be just the High Link map.
Yeah, I just notice the update. You're right, that map is most likely something to do with the High Link feature. Also, I notice the area looking like a pokeball, like how in the concept art there's an area that looked like a pokeball: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/medi...2/20/Isshu.png.

MistahDude
July 17th, 2010, 03:08 AM
Isshu Region Map:
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/june23rpgscans04.jpg

Nanpu Bridge:
http://www.edwardburtynsky.com/WORKS/China/Large_Images_Book/CHNA_CITY_02_04.jpg

The Nanpu bridge is marked as 12 on the Isshu Region Map. The Nanpu bridge is in Shanghai China.

Even though I was stubborn earlier, the shanghai area looks almost exactly like Isshu.

Yin and Yang seems to be a constant theme in the games so far, and Yin and Yang are Chinese symbols.

So I admit that i was wrong, Isshu = Shanghai China.

Zeta Patchouli
July 17th, 2010, 03:19 AM
(Now watch as everyone who said Shanghai gloats to everyone who said America. For the record, I was neutral over the whole thing, so yeah.)

Ahem, anyway, so far, I think Isshu is a great region with some varying climates, and the map that Iceman showed makes the picture of the hexagonal route system look like the actual map. It's much simpler then I thought, personally.

MistahDude
July 17th, 2010, 03:27 AM
(Now watch as everyone who said Shanghai gloats to everyone who said America. For the record, I was neutral over the whole thing, so yeah.)

Ahem, anyway, so far, I think Isshu is a great region with some varying climates, and the map that Iceman showed makes the picture of the hexagonal route system look like the actual map. It's much simpler then I thought, personally.

I doubt its the actual map because there are so many things that are left out of it.

Zeta Patchouli
July 17th, 2010, 03:31 AM
True, maybe my lack of vision and it being night time, along with the bad quality, made me see it differently, now that I take a closer look at it, it seems as though it isn't. Hm... Ah well, if you could go to all of those places with the High Link, then it's definitely more expansive then what I originally thought.

Iceman3317
July 17th, 2010, 03:59 AM
That is what I have said. There is no way that can be the real in game map. The Mountains are left out. The northern part of the map is left out. Maybe it was just a concept map,but I don't know.

But even Serebii says it is the in game map. Here: http://www.serebii.net/archive/July-2010.shtml

Ninja Caterpie
July 17th, 2010, 04:12 AM
Isshu "might" = Shanghai China. Keep in mind that the Nanpu Bridge is technically not in the right spot compared to the Sky Arrow Bridge. However, the Nanpu has a sister bridge, the Yangpu which, although it is also a suspension bridge and not a lifty-bridge thing, is red. That and Nanpu is a shiny white, like Sky Arrow, whereas Brooklyn is more of a concrete grey.

And, y'know, Sydney also has two rivers, and the Harbour Bridge in the same place as Sky Arrow. It's also surrounded by mountains, which can (albeit rarely) get snow/frost during winter. DOES SYDNEY HAVE A CHANCE OF BEING ISSHU? DESERT PSH, AUSTRALIA IS ALL DESERT ANYWAY >D

This is Yangpu:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Yangpu_Bridge.jpg

MistahDude
July 17th, 2010, 04:23 AM
That is what I have said. There is no way that can be the real in game map. The Mountains are left out. The northern part of the map is left out. Maybe it was just a concept map,but I don't know.

But even Serebii says it is the in game map. Here: http://www.serebii.net/archive/July-2010.shtml

Serebii is known for talking out of his ass and just assuming things. its not confirmed.

Iceman3317
July 17th, 2010, 06:52 AM
Also if you notice it isn't formed like the others.

Bluerang1
July 17th, 2010, 07:22 AM
*le sigh*

I saw this on another thread and I agree:
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But then someone said this:
Said bridge could always be the Brooklyn Bridge (http://wirednewyork.com/bridges/brooklyn_bridge/images/brooklyn_bridge_wtc.jpg), or one of the other thousand bridges in New York.

Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York.

Also, a good few of the species in the region are New York natives; pigeons, eagles, chipmunks, blue jays...

But then Pigeons in China:
http://silentlistening.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/takeoff.jpg

Looks like that Mamepato evo we saw, the Blue thing.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 10:56 AM
Don't worry I won't gloat for being right :D
Yeah that pigeon does look a lot like the blue one we saw!

Sora's Nobody
July 17th, 2010, 11:39 AM
*le sigh*

I saw this on another thread and I agree:
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/8dLNZWejhqE&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/8dLNZWejhqE&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

But then someone said this:


But then Pigeons in China:
http://silentlistening.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/takeoff.jpg

Looks like that Mamepato evo we saw, the Blue thing.All this is amazing. the guy in the video came with so much proof, that you would have to have gotten out of the mental institution to denie this.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 11:50 AM
All this is amazing. the guy in the video came with so much proof, that you would have to have gotten out of the mental institution to denie this.
Yeah that is true, the bridge proves it :P

Bloothump
July 17th, 2010, 12:14 PM
Don't worry I won't gloat for being right :D
Yeah that pigeon does look a lot like the blue one we saw!

Isn't that exactly what you're doing right now?

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING IS CONFIRMED.
DO NOT STATE SPECULATION AS A FACT.

Can you guys maybe tell what my pet peeve is?
Yes, with the Sky Arrow Bridge resembling Nanpu? bridge, Shanghai has a lot going for it, and yes, I do personally think that it has a high chance of hosting the Isshu region. However, it may not. It. is. not. con. firmed. Honestly, when is it going to get into your heads that you are not correct if the information hasn't been released?

Also, the pokemon that live in the region don't support its origins at all. Are beavers, giraffes, elephants, scorpions, and armadillos native to Japan? No, they aren't. We have a bald eagle in Isshu. For those who say that doesn't mean it's New York, well, your pigeon doesn't mean it's Shanghai. Again, say it with me, this is all speculation, and not fact. It is not fact. Don't treat it like fact. Don't state it as fact.

Besides, if that blue bird is a Mamepoto evolution, to me that seems like the perfect link between Mamepoto and Woogoru.


Yeah that is true, the bridge proves it :P

You just love to fill me with murderous rage, don't you?

that's a joke, by the way...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 12:19 PM
Isn't that exactly what you're doing right now?

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING IS CONFIRMED.
DO NOT STATE SPECULATION AS A FACT.

Can you guys maybe tell what my pet peeve is?
Yes, with the Sky Arrow Bridge resembling Nanpu? bridge, Shanghai has a lot going for it, and yes, I do personally think that it has a high chance of hosting the Isshu region. However, it may not. It. is. not. con. firmed. Honestly, when is it going to get into your heads that you are not correct if the information hasn't been released?

Also, the pokemon that live in the region don't support its origins at all. Are beavers, giraffes, elephants, scorpions, and armadillos native to Japan? No, they aren't. We have a bald eagle in Isshu. For those who say that doesn't mean it's New York, well, your pigeon doesn't mean it's Shanghai. Again, say it with me, this is all speculation, and not fact. It is not fact. Don't treat it like fact. Don't state it as fact.

Besides, if that blue bird is a Mamepoto evolution, to me that seems like the perfect link between Mamepoto and Woogoru.No I'm not gloating, I can gloat a lot more than that...
Also no one has actually confirmed the other 4 regions either being based in Japan, it's only a fan theory that is very convincing, more convincing than some scientific theories in my eyes :P

dieter57
July 17th, 2010, 12:23 PM
i still think it's NEW YORK CITY!
the city so nice, they named it twice.
but it really could be either or.
i mean pigeon pokemon? along side a bald eagle pokemon?
it screams red, white and blue!
and central park is like, right there. (central park=pal park? i hope not)

i'm sticking with it until game freak says otherwise.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 12:24 PM
Well GF never tells us what the regions are based on :P

Bloothump
July 17th, 2010, 12:26 PM
No I'm not gloating, I can gloat a lot more than that...
Also no one has actually confirmed the other 4 regions either being based in Japan, it's only a fan theory that is very convincing, more convincing than some scientific theories in my eyes :P

Considering you haven't played the game, you don't know any of the dialog, you haven't seen all the characters, or places yet, you have absolutely NO IDEA. We haven't seen any of the culture. No, you can't state it as fact, because you've only seen 8% of the game anyway.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 12:28 PM
Considering you haven't played the game, you don't know any of the dialog, you haven't seen all the characters, or places yet, you have absolutely NO IDEA. We haven't seen any of the culture. No, you can't state it as fact, because you've only seen 8% of the game anyway.
Yeah that's true, I'm only basing it on the Geography...

dieter57
July 17th, 2010, 12:33 PM
in all complete honesty.................i dont care where it's located.
as long as it's fun to play, and has a bunch of cool features, im good.

Bloothump
July 17th, 2010, 12:35 PM
Yeah that's true, I'm only basing it on the Geography...

And it's not just you. It's countless people over countless threads over countless different topics. The way I was taught in school was that you needed solid proof is you're going to say something. So when that doesn't happen, I get really pissed off. I try really hard to make my point and have solid evidence to back it up, and when others just throw around statements willy-nilly (wow, who says that? I swear I am the oldest 15 year old alive... >.>) I just get frustrated.
Besides, I like to see respect and kindness in these threads and "NO YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT" just isn't very respectful.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 12:49 PM
And it's not just you. It's countless people over countless threads over countless different topics. The way I was taught in school was that you needed solid proof is you're going to say something. So when that doesn't happen, I get really pissed off. I try really hard to make my point and have solid evidence to back it up, and when others just throw around statements willy-nilly (wow, who says that? I swear I am the oldest 15 year old alive... >.>) I just get frustrated.
Besides, I like to see respect and kindness in these threads and "NO YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT" just isn't very respectful.
Yeah I don't tell people that they were wrong directly as that's mean :(.
Well the other regions use Geography as well, though I do want to see more proof to back up the Shanghai theory and more proof from the NYC side other than pokemon origins :)

Bloothump
July 17th, 2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah I don't tell people that they were wrong directly as that's mean :(.
Well the other regions use Geography as well, though I do want to see more proof to back up the Shanghai theory and more proof from the NYC side other than pokemon origins :)

Well by stating "I'm right" it's the exact same as saying "you're wrong".
Also, as I said in the route thread, dialog could change this. What if someone were to refer to Hiun as "the big apple"? That changes things. Also, it's harder to determine this time around because all the previous regions were in Japan. They only needed to look to Japan to find the region. This time, we have the other 98% of the world in question.

Zackraa
July 17th, 2010, 12:57 PM
But then Pigeons in China:
http://silentlistening.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/takeoff.jpg

Looks like that Mamepato evo we saw, the Blue thing.

and here is a chinese eagle
http://i32.tinypic.com/2nm1jp.jpg
looks just like Wooguru

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 12:58 PM
I hope Isshu has many fun places to go to, I am interested in the water fall by the mountain:)

Bluerang1
July 17th, 2010, 02:13 PM
Isshu is based of Nigeria :laugh:No but seriously, it has a Delta with two rivers and a huge long Bridge and desert... It uses the track rail system. One's right outside my house there :cheeky:

Anyway, Isshu can't just be based on one City, it should be a country... Oh wait, it's the cities/towns themselves that are based on different places.

The thing is, one person said New York, everyone agrees and then it sticks. When the possibility that it's Shanghai comes up, it's hard to adjust o that. Personally, I want it to be Shanghai because Americans will gloat bad and that won't be as expected as New York would be. Though, the Protagonists point to New York, Cheren and Beru point to Asia (Shanghai).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 03:01 PM
Isshu is based of Nigeria :laugh:No but seriously, it has a Delta with two rivers and a huge long Bridge and desert... It uses the track rail system. One's right outside my house there :cheeky:

Anyway, Isshu can't just be based on one City, it should be a country... Oh wait, it's the cities/towns themselves that are based on different places.

The thing is, one person said New York, everyone agrees and then it sticks. When the possibility that it's Shanghai comes up, it's hard to adjust o that. Personally, I want it to be Shanghai because Americans will gloat bad and that won't be as expected as New York would be. Though, the Protagonists point to New York, Cheren and Beru point to Asia (Shanghai).
Nigeria, for reals show us a map of where :P
I don't see how the characters point to NY or Shanghai is it their clothing? Or looks?

Bluerang1
July 17th, 2010, 03:03 PM
Nigeria, for reals show us a map of where :P
I don't see how the characters point to NY or Shanghai is it their clothing? Or looks?

Black and White look like American kids, maybe just White. Cheren definitely has an Asian feel to him, so does Beru. N also. And Prof. As Assistant. Prof. A does look American though.

EDIT:
http://www.wordtravels.com/images/map/Nigeria_map.jpg
That's the whole country, Nigeria xD

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 03:07 PM
Black and White look like American kids, maybe just White. Cheren definitely has an Asian feel to him, so does Beru. N also. And Prof. As Assistant. Prof. A does look American though.

EDIT:
http://www.wordtravels.com/images/map/Nigeria_map.jpg
That's the whole country, Nigeria xDOh I found the delta that could be Isshu :P
Really? they don't look any more American than Red,Crystal/Lyra, Brendan or Dawn to me:\

Bluerang1
July 17th, 2010, 03:11 PM
Oh I found the delta that could be Isshu :P
Really? they don't look any more American than Red,Crystal/Lyra, Brendan or Dawn to me:\

Nah, they all looked Asian, yeah, all of them, to me. :\

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 03:34 PM
Nah, they all looked Asian, yeah, all of them, to me. :\Huh, I found Red the most "American" out of all the characters as of yet:\

Bluerang1
July 17th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Huh, I found Red the most "American" out of all the characters as of yet:\

Oh yeah, him. And Gold I guess. But not Ethan.. oh I dunno xD

Dawn, Leaf, May, Brendan, Lucas, White, Cheren - All seem very Asian to me.

Ninja Caterpie
July 17th, 2010, 04:24 PM
Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?

IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR.

Silver25
July 17th, 2010, 04:43 PM
Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?

IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR.

Dude chill out. No need to get frustrated over this stuff. Anyways, how does Sydney have the right topography? I just looked thorough Google Earth and I disagree.

I will say that now Shanghai is on MY list of possible areas Isshu is based off of. (U.S, Shanghai, Hiroshima area) But then again we'll just need to wait and see.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 17th, 2010, 04:52 PM
The Hiroshima area is close to Johto and it Japan though (makes confused face)

Silver25
July 17th, 2010, 04:54 PM
The Hiroshima area is close to Johto and it Japan though (makes confused face)

I posted some information on it a few pages back. Take a look at it.

Yeah it is part of Japan but like many have said on here we don't know how all the regions are placed in the pokemon world. Isshu could be based off of it and be placed away from the other regions, we just don't know...

Bloothump
July 17th, 2010, 05:24 PM
and here is a chinese eagle
http://i32.tinypic.com/2nm1jp.jpg
looks just like Wooguru

It really doesn't. Wooguru has an Indian headdress. Wooguru has white feathers on it's face and some on it's head, supporting bald eagle theory. I really don't see how one can deny that.

MistahDude
July 17th, 2010, 05:54 PM
It really doesn't. Wooguru has an Indian headdress. Wooguru has white feathers on it's face and some on it's head, supporting bald eagle theory. I really don't see how one can deny that.

No one calls Indians by that anymore, their proper name is Native American. Non Americans might get confused if you say Indian.

And Wooguru is obviously a bald eagle as you said.

Forever
July 17th, 2010, 06:08 PM
Also, as I said in the route thread, dialog could change this. What if someone were to refer to Hiun as "the big apple"? That changes things.

I'm not sure whether that's likely, since Pokemon seems to be more...subtle, rather than anything.

orange discontent
July 17th, 2010, 06:22 PM
I'm not sure whether that's likely, since Pokemon seems to be more...subtle, rather than anything.

Perhaps they will refer to Hiun City as "The Big Orange"?

Ninja Caterpie[/B]]Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?

IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR.

Because Australia's lame :P Isshu is clearly Nunavut. Don't push your luck.

Forever
July 17th, 2010, 06:26 PM
...Surprisingly that's what I thought. XD;

Though I don't think the city in-game looks like an orange which could confuse children D:

Heart's Soul
July 17th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Nunavut... and how is it high-tech?

Ninja Caterpie
July 17th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Image proof then.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/351/sydney.png

As you can see by the picture I've just posted, there are two main rivers, and, get this, look at the stuff at the top, left and right sides of the image. MOUNTAINS. Closer to Isshu than New York City, I think. Also, you might notice there's a funny blue splot thing in the middle of the map. That's Prospect Reservoir, in the exact same place as Pokeball Lake in Isshu. I'll admit, the shape of the area between the Parramatta and Georges Rivers is shaped a bit more like a hammer than a rectangle, but the area's shape is always altered when turned into a Pokemon region.

So, how's it with the evidence for Sydney = Isshu? New York has the shape, Shanghai has the city size and landmarks, Sydney has the topography. I've absolutely no idea where that Nunavut argument came from.

I was only kidding around at first, when I said Sydney, but now, I'm quite serious. You could say that I've been convinced by my own evidence.

So, how many is that now? New York, Shanghai, Hiroshima, Sydney, Nunavat.

Myles
July 17th, 2010, 08:59 PM
Image proof then.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/351/sydney.png

As you can see by the picture I've just posted, there are two main rivers, and, get this, look at the stuff at the top, left and right sides of the image. MOUNTAINS. Closer to Isshu than New York City, I think. Also, you might notice there's a funny blue splot thing in the middle of the map. That's Prospect Reservoir, in the exact same place as Pokeball Lake in Isshu. I'll admit, the shape of the area between the Parramatta and Georges Rivers is shaped a bit more like a hammer than a rectangle, but the area's shape is always altered when turned into a Pokemon region.

So, how's it with the evidence for Sydney = Isshu? New York has the shape, Shanghai has the city size and landmarks, Sydney has the topography. I've absolutely no idea where that Nunavut argument came from.

I was only kidding around at first, when I said Sydney, but now, I'm quite serious. You could say that I've been convinced by my own evidence.

So, how many is that now? New York, Shanghai, Hiroshima, Sydney, Nunavat.

I think you're just joking, but anyway: Sydney isn't built up as much as Huin City. And I can't even see what part of that map you're talking about...

Ninja Caterpie
July 17th, 2010, 09:04 PM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8971/sydneys.png

Mountains are circled in red, Prospect Reservoir in yellow, rivers in green.

Esper
July 17th, 2010, 09:24 PM
I'm not sure what all the fuss about that bridge in Shanghai is. Lots of bridges have spiral ends, like this one:

http://ksan.sakura.ne.jp/N/NDB/data/N800/822-11hakuchoA1000.jpg
I admit I thought Isshu was based on NYC when I first saw it because Hiun City is placed right where the big skyscrapers would be and the similar shapes. It can see how it could be based on Shanghai, though the map looks a bit like both. The only thing that gets me is that in terms of geography the last two regions (Hoenn and Sinnoh) don't just resemble the places they're based on, they're close to identical. Shanghai is on a triangular piece of land and I don't have any reason to think that the game creators are going to pick this moment to so drastically change the shape of the real-world place that's the basis for this region. They might, but it would be a break from what they've done in the past.

Silver25
July 24th, 2010, 05:48 PM
I just wanted to point out that a "possible" Isshu = US hint is the Liberty Ticket that will be obtained through Wi-Fi in order to obtain the new legendary Victini on Black and White. I'm not saying anything major, it could just be a subtle hint though.

dieter57
July 24th, 2010, 06:16 PM
for all the non believers out there

isshu has two small islands to the bottom left of the screen and several others to the bottom right.

in the new york picture there are two islands to the left and liberty island to the right.

it's not an exact match but hey, neither are the rest of the regions.
plus the new liberty ticket event was just announced.
liberty ticket=boat ride to liberty island????

now does shanghai have islands in the same location?
no, i didn't think so.

Zet
July 24th, 2010, 06:19 PM
Maybe Isshu is based on both NYC and Shanghai, that possibility hasn't been ruled out.

Swolligator
July 24th, 2010, 06:21 PM
On the liberty ticket, there is a picture of a lighthouse. although i dont care where it is, it could lead to "Liberty Island", another hint at NYC.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
July 24th, 2010, 06:23 PM
On the liberty ticket, there is a picture of a lighthouse. although i dont care where it is, it could lead to "Liberty Island", another hint at NYC.
yeah it's a hint for NYC :)...

Swolligator
July 24th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Bikutini is shown using the peace sign (two fingers in the shape of a 'V'), V was broadcast in morse code from the liberty statue on D-Day and at the end of WW2. - it is a big coincidence.
but note also that the peace sign is a common gesture in Japan.

dieter57
July 24th, 2010, 06:31 PM
i think it's just a coincidence. pokemon, is after all, Japanese. so i just thinkthe 'V' with his ears is just a coincidence. besides, lots of pkemon have three spikes on the top of their heads.
does that mean pokemon is under the study of wumbology?
(recently saw spongebob)

rocky505
July 24th, 2010, 06:31 PM
When was there Hippie's in Japan?

Zet
July 25th, 2010, 05:58 AM
When was there Hippie's in Japan?

Clearly none, because hippies only live in America.

orange discontent
July 25th, 2010, 08:14 AM
Since when where there hippies in BW?

Calder
July 25th, 2010, 09:40 AM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8971/sydneys.png

Mountains are circled in red, Prospect Reservoir in yellow, rivers in green.

Oh I see IT MUST BE SYNDEY NOW LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

It looks almost nothing like that the Mountains look small, no islands nearby, rivers too close together and the only thing that matches is the lake thing shaped like a circle...

DarKnighT_0_9
July 25th, 2010, 11:30 AM
I didn't read all 19 pages but I don't think anyone has said this yet. After Victini was revealed yesterday I got to thinking. The item you need in order to get him/her is called the "Liberty Ticket" and liberty, as far as I know, is really only associated with the United States. More so than it is with any other real life place anyway. Also New York city has the original Statue of Liberty. I know there are others around the world but New York has the biggest and the original one. I say this is one more point for those who think it is New York/United States.

Calder
July 25th, 2010, 01:46 PM
I didn't read all 19 pages but I don't think anyone has said this yet. After Victini was revealed yesterday I got to thinking. The item you need in order to get him/her is called the "Liberty Ticket" and liberty, as far as I know, is really only associated with the United States. More so than it is with any other real life place anyway. Also New York city has the original Statue of Liberty. I know there are others around the world but New York has the biggest and the original one. I say this is one more point for those who think it is New York/United States.

As I said before... We mentioned this already <.<

latios123
July 26th, 2010, 09:17 AM
i hope the battle frontier is there again. it was fun in the previous games!

dieter57
July 26th, 2010, 11:59 AM
new generation means:
new gyms/ gym leaders
new elite four
new champion
and new battle frontier/ frontier brains.

but the battle tower will still be there but it will just have a new brain.

MistahDude
July 30th, 2010, 02:41 AM
The Isshu map was shown during the July 30th Oha Suta Trailer:

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx264/MistahDude/IsshuRegionMap.png?t=1280486344

It shows the Isshu map with 14 Towns or other major landmarks and 19 small green dots indicating other smaller areas.

MistahDude
July 30th, 2010, 02:51 AM
The region looks kinda small to be honest. D:

I guess I need to emphasize the "19 green dots indicating other small areas". This region is actually huge if you keep the small areas in mind.

Haza
July 30th, 2010, 02:53 AM
umm yeah its huge... can't wait to embark on a completely new Pokemon journey...

MistahDude
July 30th, 2010, 03:13 AM
umm yeah its huge... can't wait to embark on a completely new Pokemon journey...

It might actually be just like the Giratina route. Until you get on the route it is hidden on your map. The actual paths to the green dots arent shown until you take them!

Either that or they want you to explore more.

Pokestick, good times.
July 30th, 2010, 03:16 AM
I thought it looked quite weird at first, actually.
The art looked quite.. plastic almost, and it also looked like there wouldn't be much to see there, just a few towns and things placed in an unnatural circle.

I look forward to this now, though :3
As long as the graphics stays as good as it hints. :P

Zet
July 30th, 2010, 03:22 AM
When I first saw that image, I thought it was fake, but at a second glance, the black taskbar with the buttons doesn't really fit in well and I wonder if those arrows means to navigate from town to town or.... different areas of Isshu.

Ninja Caterpie
July 30th, 2010, 04:44 AM
I'm sorry, but the first thing I thought of when I saw that was "HAH! New York's right landmass thing isn't so thin! Shanghai's, however..." and then I realised that was already on the map we had before. This argument is getting to my head.

But it looks cool. (b'-')b

loliwin
July 30th, 2010, 05:00 AM
Looks like a worm holding a diamond.. :O
or its just my imagination lol

GFA
July 30th, 2010, 06:51 AM
You know, it doesnt really look like anything? I was thinking it could be moddled after France because of Jaun and Fatina, but France lacks a desert ...

Zackraa
July 30th, 2010, 07:06 AM
I was hoping for shanghai

but after seeing the liberty ticket I could go either way then I saw the footballer now its new york without a doubt no other country in the world wears that gear for sports

I are sad faced its not shanghai

RedFan
July 30th, 2010, 08:11 AM
i dont know but i could be new york

Yams
July 30th, 2010, 01:56 PM
I say the subway further helps in making it like New York. Also there one of the screen shots looks similar to Grand Central Station.

orange discontent
July 30th, 2010, 02:28 PM
The Isshu map was shown during the July 30th Oha Suta Trailer:

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx264/MistahDude/IsshuRegionMap.png?t=1280486344

It shows the Isshu map with 14 Towns or other major landmarks and 19 small green dots indicating other smaller areas.

I thought that was the High Link map since the character sprite isn't one of the PCs.

dragon0fangz
July 30th, 2010, 03:36 PM
I thought that was the High Link map since the character sprite isn't one of the PCs.

:O you are an genius.

Also, they mentioned once, high link is only available in the upper part of isshu.
which means...
MORE BELOW?!

Swolligator
July 30th, 2010, 04:09 PM
:O you are an genius.

Also, they mentioned once, high link is only available in the upper part of isshu.
which means...
MORE BELOW?!

there is nothing below isshu, just water cause the starting town is the bottom most big dot. also the up arrow thing is lighter than the down arrow, is there more to the north of Isshu?

MistahDude
July 31st, 2010, 04:46 AM
- America is the only country that plays American Football, thus the gear we wear for this sport is only here in America.

- Game Freak picked now to make an American Pokemon. Wooguru/Wargle is Red, White, and Blue and is a Bald Eagle. Both are symbols of America. He is also wearing a Native American Headdress, which points to the heritage of the country of America.

- Victini's name is a cross between Tini and Victory. He is found by using the Liberty Ticket. He is also showing the peace scene, also known as the victory sign.

- When Pokemon Sunday showed off the starters the three people doing it were dressed in special outfits. They were dressed like old New York paperboys.
http://www.clker.com/cliparts/3/7/e/8/12375612871622595821johnny_automatic_newsboy.svg.hi.png

- America is farther away than Shanghai in comparison to Japan.

- Three new pokemon were shown all at the same time and they had something relatively strange in common. They were all disney-like. We got Alvin, Bambi and a Disney Swan. You may deny it but Disney is a big part of the American culture.

- America has been referenced in games before and part of America has been used for the Orre region (Arizona). I am pretty sure China hasn't been a base for any regions yet.

- China is communist and would freak out if Game Freak didn't represent them as positively as possible. Any negativity would get the games banned.

- There is a Royal/Medieval theme going on for the plots of Black and White. This means that an evil team is trying to institute a Royal system on the people of Isshu. This is most likely a reference to when Great Britain tried to do the same to the people of America a hundred or so years ago.

- Having Black people in the games sort of helps the New York theory because there are almost no Black people in Japan.

- Shanghai is Triangular shaped. New York is not and neither is Isshu.

- New York fits on to Isshu more so than Shanghai.
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Pokemon-NYC.jpg

Zet
July 31st, 2010, 05:17 AM
I say the subway further helps in making it like New York. Also there one of the screen shots looks similar to Grand Central Station.
You do know that a lot of countries have subways?

- America is the only country that plays American Football, thus the gear we wear for this sport is only here in America.

- Game Freak picked now to make an American Pokemon. Wooguru/Wargle is Red, White, and Blue and is a Bald Eagle. Both are symbols of America. He is also wearing a Native American Headdress, which points to the heritage of the country of America.

- Victini's name is a cross between Tini and Victory. He is found by using the Liberty Ticket. He is also showing the peace scene, also known as the victory sign.

- When Pokemon Sunday showed off the starters the three people doing it were dressed in special outfits. They were dressed like old New York paperboys.
http://www.clker.com/cliparts/3/7/e/8/12375612871622595821johnny_automatic_newsboy.svg.hi.png

- America is farther away than Shanghai in comparison to Japan.

- Three new pokemon were shown all at the same time and they had something relatively strange in common. They were all disney-like. We got Alvin, Bambi and a Disney Swan. You may deny it but Disney is a big part of the American culture.

- America has been referenced in games before and part of America has been used for the Orre region (Arizona). I am pretty sure China hasn't been a base for any regions yet.

- China is communist and would freak out if Game Freak didn't represent them as positively as possible. Any negativity would get the games banned.

- There is a Royal/Medieval theme going on for the plots of Black and White. This means that an evil team is trying to institute a Royal system on the people of Isshu. This is most likely a reference to when Great Britain tried to do the same to the people of America a hundred or so years ago.

- Having Black people in the games sort of helps the New York theory because there are almost no Black people in Japan.

- Shanghai is Triangular shaped. New York is not and neither is Isshu.

- New York fits on to Isshu more so than Shanghai.
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Pokemon-NYC.jpg

Just because something shows a "V" sign does not mean it is American. And Disney like you say? You do know that Disney animals are based off real life animals? Besides, those "Disney like" animals also live in a few different countries around the world.

MistahDude
July 31st, 2010, 07:10 AM
You do know that a lot of countries have subways?



Just because something shows a "V" sign does not mean it is American. And Disney like you say? You do know that Disney animals are based off real life animals? Besides, those "Disney like" animals also live in a few different countries around the world.

They are drawn like Disney characters.

Yingxue
August 14th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Honestly, whether people like it or not, Isshu's looking more and more like it's based off NYC, not Shanghai. I was sold when they revealed the Liberty Island thing.

King Gumball
August 14th, 2010, 04:43 PM
I can't wait what the battle frontier is! I hope it is even better than the previous ones. I still think the Emerald battle frontier is the one to beat.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 14th, 2010, 04:54 PM
They are drawn like Disney characters.
Not really our deer doesn't have long legs like Bambi, and it has diffrent color schemes. The "chipmunk" looks more like a Meerkat than a chipmunk,even if it was more chipmunk like it doesn't look like Alvin...

dieter57
August 14th, 2010, 04:58 PM
i think the Disney thing is just a coincidence.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 14th, 2010, 04:59 PM
i think the Disney thing is just a coincidence.
Yeah I think so too, I don't think a Pokemon's design should be used to find where a region is based on.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to say this, Sinnoh was kind of French in culture so culture can be misleading as well, good thing the first four regions we had Geography to help us :)

PiPVoda
August 14th, 2010, 05:03 PM
You know, it doesnt really look like anything? I was thinking it could be moddled after France because of Jaun and Fatina, but France lacks a desert ...
what if this desert is larger than all of France? :D

Swolligator
August 14th, 2010, 08:41 PM
- America is the only country that plays American Football, thus the gear we wear for this sport is only here in America.

- Having Black people in the games sort of helps the New York theory because there are almost no Black people in Japan.



Im sorry dude, this made me laugh. There are many black people in japan, at least where i live. My friend is black too. I see black people here all the time.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 14th, 2010, 09:51 PM
Im sorry dude, this made me laugh. There are many black people in japan, at least where i live. My friend is black too. I see black people here all the time.
I thought that was the case :), There are people with dark skin almost anywhere in the world now in days :)

Forever
August 14th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Just a note, if you'd like to discuss where Isshu is based on, do it here (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=226184), otherwise carry on with other Isshu discussions :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 14th, 2010, 10:51 PM
Opps I misread the thread...
Well I wonder if the Isshu map changes every season?

Livewire
August 14th, 2010, 10:58 PM
Opps I misread the thread...
Well I wonder if the Isshu map changes every season?

like what do you mean? well if there are seasons in the game, im guessing certains routes/towns/whatever will look different in different seasons.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 14th, 2010, 11:05 PM
like what do you mean? well if there are seasons in the game, im guessing certains routes/towns/whatever will look different in different seasons.
Yeah like that, I mean will the map show snow routes in winter ?

MistahDude
August 14th, 2010, 11:07 PM
Yeah like that, I mean will the map show snow routes in winter ?

I thought you meant that if there would be optional routes that changed based on the season.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 14th, 2010, 11:09 PM
I thought you meant that if there would be optional routes that changed based on the season.
nope I just wanted to know if the way the routes turn white when there is snow on them :P

Angelroid
August 15th, 2010, 12:52 AM
We won't know till the games are out.

Resultz
August 15th, 2010, 04:54 AM
We won't know till the games are out.

I like posting constructive comments aswell ¬¬


Id like it to change with the seasons.
Id also like to see a full region map like the one ingame.
Then we'd be able to speculate a lot more..

However i like the look of the bridges and the carnival thing etc, aswell as the desert.

Dragonika
August 15th, 2010, 01:34 PM
This region looks huge !

Also the various areas look awesome such as Black city , White forest , Hiun city bay and the bridges look amazing <3

Although I don't like the idea of there being no berry's :(

dieter57
August 15th, 2010, 07:15 PM
This region looks huge !

Also the various areas look awesome such as Black city , White forest , Hiun city bay and the bridges look amazing <3

Although I don't like the idea of there being no berry's :(

no berries? what?
since when?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 15th, 2010, 07:42 PM
no berries? what?
since when?
Yeah we can't grow berries in Isshu :(, only in the Dream world.

austy14
August 15th, 2010, 08:48 PM
So what, berries have been proven to not exist and only appear in dreams!?!? Lol jk, I know what ya mean. But with season's I think it would be interesting if some routes opened up/closed for seasons. Like a water route being able to walk upon in winter, closed in spring (for all the excess water in case you don't know why it would be), then a peaceful river in Summer and fall. A sidenote, I would like for YOU to be able to swim, at least a little in some places. And I also wonder... if you climbed a snow bank to a cliff during winter, was inactive till "summer," would you be stuck till winter again? Or would there be an alternate way off? Not including fly.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 15th, 2010, 09:23 PM
So what, berries have been proven to not exist and only appear in dreams!?!? Lol jk, I know what ya mean. But with season's I think it would be interesting if some routes opened up/closed for seasons. Like a water route being able to walk upon in winter, closed in spring (for all the excess water in case you don't know why it would be), then a peaceful river in Summer and fall. A sidenote, I would like for YOU to be able to swim, at least a little in some places. And I also wonder... if you climbed a snow bank to a cliff during winter, was inactive till "summer," would you be stuck till winter again? Or would there be an alternate way off? Not including fly.I'm thinking that you might be dropped down to the ground below the bank, it's the most likely thing to happen or it's going to be like the trees that could be cut in gen 1...where you are on top of a tree! Oh so I read in Bulbapedia ( about the tree thing).

austy14
August 15th, 2010, 09:45 PM
I'm thinking that you might be dropped down to the ground below the bank, it's the most likely thing to happen or it's going to be like the trees that could be cut in gen 1...where you are on top of a tree! Oh so I read in Bulbapedia ( about the tree thing).

The tree thing works. I figured out in Yellow I saved next to one and then my Pikachu was on it, so I saved with me on it. Nothing special, just a tree behind you and when you step off everything's normal. But I hope there is some way (that looks cool, not a series of hop along ledges) to get off cus I once saved behind a Pokemon Center desk after using my friends AR and forgot I did so when he left, game crashed and I was stuck for a couple months.

Red1530
August 16th, 2010, 04:29 PM
More then likely there will be a way off the season exclusive areas otherwise a lot of fans will not be happy.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
August 16th, 2010, 07:48 PM
Are we getting off topic by talking about seasons, shouldn't we use the Season thread for that :/?
Well Isshu seems pretty cool, I hope it's funner than Sinnoh was :)

Sora's Nobody
August 16th, 2010, 09:44 PM
Well it does look alot of fun. With the amusement park e.g but the region d´those seem awfully small.

coolnick37
August 17th, 2010, 07:02 AM
Soo guys, take a look at this ingame pic on Isshu:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2cp6tqr.jpg

Do you see the arrows near the bottom that go up and down, could this mean that Isshu has more land up, or do we see more land on the north in the next edition?

Forever
August 17th, 2010, 07:05 AM
Merged with the Isshu Region thread :)

~Wind~
August 17th, 2010, 07:28 AM
Hmm...
Thats some nice spotting there, coolnick, maybe that airportish thing we saw at the side of the map takes us over a mountain range to the second part of isshu.
and isshu does seem kinda small.
I'm gonna say, yes; I do think theres more of isshu!

Wind