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Noah Ridgewood
May 15th, 2010, 08:29 PM
A new generation means new Pokémon, new gym leaders, new... everything! I know of a few people who are aiming to avoid any information on this generation like the plague and wanting to experience the game without any prior information, without any information on where to get something or how to accomplish a task, and without the use of any outside materials such as walkthroughs and guides.

I can't remember the last time I was actually around for the start of a new generation enough for me to actually get access to information beforehand. So with that I have a question for you all.

Come the time the game is released, do you plan on using any outside pieces of information, such as guides and walkthroughs, to beat the main game? Or do you want to be surprised throughout the entire game and go into the world that you haven't a clue how to navigate? Will you try to find out everything you can about the game before you get it, or are you one of those people who want to be surprised when you finally do reach the champion or spot a Pokémon that you think is possibly the greatest Pokémon since Cherrim?

As for me, I'm not exactly sure. In a way, I would really like to learn all I can about the Pokémon, the region, the characters, and everything else. But on the other hand I would really like to enjoy the game without spoilers. I think that's the main thing that affected Generation IV for me and impacted me so greatly that I actually found it to be boring. After all, I never did complete Platinum yet. I find that I'd more than likely play the game without using anything outside of what pieces of information the game gives me.

What about you?

PiPVoda
May 15th, 2010, 08:31 PM
I don't use strategy guides. Mainly because I always thought what the point was in paying an extra $20 dollars, and I have the internet free to look up anything I need. In genearl I'm the type of person who likes to experience things as I go. I did this in Hoenn and Sinnoh and will in Isshu too. I might get tempted to watch videos of black and white once they pop up on YouTube when the game comes out in Japan--like I was with SS/HG--but I try not to watch them because I don't want to spoil the excitment for me.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
May 15th, 2010, 08:32 PM
I will not use much outside info other then the types of pokemon there are in these games but other than that I will just go with the flow.

Dillon_68
May 15th, 2010, 08:33 PM
I will start fresh and advance through the game thoroughly, no guide whatsoever, absorbed every detail in. I have a feeling that this world will be MUCH harder to navigate through, but I'm excited to explore it!

PiPVoda
May 15th, 2010, 08:35 PM
I will not use much outside info other then the types of pokemon there are in these games but other than that I will just go with the flow.

ahhh, you made it over! well off-topic, but yeah I agree. Though I will probably pop up around PC to see how other people are doing in their game.

Waffle-San
May 15th, 2010, 08:35 PM
Spoilers have never bothered me personally, I still get just as excited going, "ZOMG I remember reading about this!! Time to see what this puppy can do!!" as I do going, "Holy crap is that a Bibarel on steroids!?" cause in reality I do that anyways when the Pokemon is released. The thing that make the Pokemon games for me are the little things that alot of people won't even find worth reporting. A good example would be on route 120 in Hoenn there's a little pond with an island with a cave on it. Inside it is TM Sunny Day. I love that cave just cause I get that sense of finding something for myself. Finding Hiun city just isn't the same. Plus I get a whole new feeling when I discover something in game compared to when I see it on the net. On the internet it's a dream basically and finding it in the game is realising that dream which is just awesome so for that reason I'll look at as many outside sources as I want and still adore the games!

Guy
May 15th, 2010, 08:36 PM
I always enjoy a game the less I know. However, knowing myself pretty well, I know I couldn't resist certain spoilers that are to be released prior to the release of the game. I'd like to keep somethings at reserve so the fun of the game isn't entirely ruined, but at the same time I want to know enough in which I know I'll enjoy it when I get it - if this makes any sense at all.

I don't use walkthroughs though. They never really interested me as I rather play through a game and come about an obstacle and figure it out myself. It's always more fun that way anyway. With Pokémon though, this isn't always something that's too difficult to come by as the games are pointed to more of a younger audience. Which is why I'm hoping for a more difficult game this generation.

I think what I'll do like I've done with every game so far is that I'll know what there is to know, without ruining the experience and fun of the game. I knew just enough about DPPt when it was released to enjoy it and still have surprising moments, which I anticipate to do the same here.

Haza
May 15th, 2010, 08:36 PM
I actually started playing Pokemon with Yellow version but then I went to Red version. Ever since, I have played the main versions and the 3rd installments as well and I plan to do the same with this generation.

PiPVoda
May 15th, 2010, 08:42 PM
Spoilers have never bothered me personally, I still get just as excited going, "ZOMG I remember reading about this!! Time to see what this puppy can do!!" as I do going, "Holy crap is that a Bibarel on steroids!?" cause in reality I do that anyways when the Pokemon is released. The thing that make the Pokemon games for me are the little things that alot of people won't even find worth reporting. A good example would be on route 120 in Hoenn there's a little pond with an island with a cave on it. Inside it is TM Sunny Day. I love that cave just cause I get that sense of finding something for myself. Finding Hiun city just isn't the same. Plus I get a whole new feeling when I discover something in game compared to when I see it on the net. On the internet it's a dream basically and finding it in the game is realising that dream which is just awesome so for that reason I'll look at as many outside sources as I want and still adore the games!

The thing though is when I watched spoilers it just makes me want to play the games even more. Then I realize that I have to wait months and yeah the mix of sadness and anger set in. Like 'ahhh, Japan is so lucky they have the games already' and 'I hate Nintendo why do they take so long to release the games in America? Are we less important than the Japanese?!' :laugh:

JP
May 15th, 2010, 08:43 PM
I can't remember the last time I was actually around for the start of a new generation enough for me to actually get access to information beforehand. So with that I have a question for you all.

Same thing here. I would love to avoid all possible information to maximize the surprise, but it's almost impossible for me to do that. I'd cave in within a day or two. With that said though, I don't use guides or walkthroughs for the main quest of the games. The only time I get around to using those is if I'm looking for something and have absolutely no idea where to go (which is hard to do in a Pokemon game if you ask me, it all seems pretty obvious.)

I think that once the games are released, I'll try and avoid all spoilers about it... though that will certainly prove to be difficult being on a Pokemon forum. :P

Chaos Rush
May 15th, 2010, 09:12 PM
I'm not going to either bother getting Black or White, and I'm going to wait until the 3rd version comes out. I mean, I never play my Diamond version. Platinum is far, superior than Diamond/Pearl, and looking back, I wish I never played D/P so that the first time I play through Sinnoh was the awesome epicness of Platinum. And as each generation passes, the 3rd versions get more and more creative/better in comparison to the paired versions.

Originally, in Japan, the first games were Red & Green. The 3rd version was Blue (which was the version translated for the international releases of Pokemon) and the only differences was slightly better graphics, new sprites, different wild Pokemon, different in-game trades, and that's about it. (In Japan, Yellow is just a "side project", while Yellow is the 3rd version in places other than Japan).

Crystal had slightly better graphics than G/S, animated Pokemon sprites, Battle Tower, and that's about it.

Emerald had slightly better graphics than R/S, Battle Frontier, revised plot, animated sprites, many random aesthetic changes to match FR/LG, plus many random new features, and overall, a more "complete" Hoenn experience.

Platinum had much better graphics than D/P, and the list of things changed is too long for me to list. Basically, to be honest, I think Platinum is the perfect Pokemon game. It is truly the Pokemon game I have been the most satisfied with (yes, I like Platinum more than HG/SS), and in my opinion, it outclasses D/P very prominently.

I want my first adventure through the new region to be as awesome and epic as possible, so I'm going to pass on Black & White and wait for the 3rd version. (Grey?) There's no point in getting Black & White, since it will eventually become obsolete due to a 3rd version.

EDIT: And don't think I don't like what they've shown us. Black & White looks AWESOME so far, but just think, the 3rd version is gonna be AWESOME-ER.

Kirbychu
May 15th, 2010, 09:21 PM
^I've considered doing what you posted as well, but I can't wait that long. D:

I'm going to spoil Pokemon and anime info, but I'm keeping the region and plot a secret like I did last gen. I will use online strategy guides to make sure I don't miss anything. It's not like you can hide from the Pokemon, you'd have to leave anything Pokemon-related on the internet for a few many months.

Waffle-San
May 15th, 2010, 09:27 PM
The thing though is when I watched spoilers it just makes me want to play the games even more. Then I realize that I have to wait months and yeah the mix of sadness and anger set in. Like 'ahhh, Japan is so lucky they have the games already' and 'I hate Nintendo why do they take so long to release the games in America? Are we less important than the Japanese?!' :laugh:

True, true. I'm already getting that with Black and White but that's part of the excitement for me. The longer the wait the more worth it it is. I mean if Christmas was ever two weeks it wouldn't be the same would it? It's a love-hate relationship I have with this sort of thing. :P

GoldvsRed
May 15th, 2010, 09:29 PM
I've always used spoiler-heavy guides and walkthroughs. I know that it ruins a lot of the story and general effect of the game, but this is an RPG; sometimes, you just don't know where to go to get that one item, or where to go to meet that one guy. Plus, I just like looking at maps.

Beyerful
May 15th, 2010, 09:43 PM
Once the game is released in Japan I am stopping looking up anything and that is going to be very hard to do. Of course before the game is released I will be relishing in every last pixel of art, every last frame of video that they give us.

Also, when I get the game, I have told myself to not go catching every pokémon I see and exp.share training them to get the pokédex done. All you end up with is heaps of unwanted pokémon that you have no real bond with and the shame of having gotten so many pokémon. (I am already full of shame from having completed the gen4 dex, imagine if I complete Gen5)
I will catch what I like though and train what I want. No planning out my team before I start the game.

OH but two things I will be looking up. The starters evolutions and the game mascots (which are usually shown before release date but yeah)

Massai
May 15th, 2010, 09:53 PM
I'm going to devour any and all information about the game I can before it comes out - drool over the new pokedex that Japan is enjoying before we get it and possibly even get a copy with fan translated menus to give a spin before the American release.

As for when I'm playing the game, I want to experience and enjoy it with the missus as we play through our copies and will most likely avoid guides and just want a list of which pokemon are on which route so I can plan out what I may want to catch.

Akeraz
May 15th, 2010, 10:46 PM
My first experience of Black and White will be fumbling through the game in Japanese.
With my limited knowledge of the language, I'm sure it will be fun.
Then again, I do have the internet to help me when it comes to that.

Daydream
May 16th, 2010, 01:11 AM
I'll not be using any strategy guides or anything, I never really have with Pokemon games. I might look at one or two bits of spoiler info (evolutions of existing pokemon, the legendaries) but generally I just want to play the game and see for myself how everything pans out.

Bluerang1
May 16th, 2010, 01:17 AM
Graet Thread. Gen IV was a tad surprising to me as I just got it without spoilers of anything. I plan to see the new Pokemon they show before the game release, and get a sneak peak at the PokeDex to sort my Team. But the story I want to be a surprise to me :)

JAK3
May 16th, 2010, 05:25 AM
No, the way I see it, you use anything to guide you throughout the game, and it's a speed run. I want to be able to experience the game the way I want to, without the creators telling me how to do it, that's what makes Pokemon games fun, when you explore the whole region by yourself and come across things that you didn't even know existed! That's why I don't use walkthroughs, unless I want a portable Pokedex, :D

seeker
May 16th, 2010, 05:47 AM
I've been anticipating the 5th generation for a long time. Unlike a lot of fans, I've actually like pokemon more with each generation and I enjoyed the 4th gen more than I did any of the other games. From what I've seen from B&W, it's all I've ever wanted in a game.

I'll be really taking my time progressing through the region, without looking to any guides as I want to really enjoy this game without speeding through to see the big events. I imagine that this game will be very different to what we're used to but on a positive side, at least it's not just another RPG like all the other games. From what I've seen it looks a little like TWEWY with the city, and a mix between the two games is something like I've always wanted.

I want to actually explore the game and learn about as many things as I can without the aid of google, or looking up the solutions. This may be the last time I get to play a pokemon RPG as I'm getting older and somewhat less interested in the series. That said, B&W is high on my expectations. So far I've loved what I've seen and I'll be taking in every aspect of the game as I explore Isshu, I'll also try to catch all the new pokemon I can, I've always loved catching pokemon I've never seen before.

So all in all, I should be taking it pretty slowly, exploring everything, solving as many mysteries as I can alone, and pretty much just getting my monies worth.

BeachBoy
May 16th, 2010, 05:58 AM
It took me over 70 hours to beat the Elite Four in Heart Gold, to give you any hint as my style for these games, it should take even longer. I love taking my time along the way, seeing what other people do, and yes, buying the strategy guide and reading it. Not for spoilers or anything, but just for fun. It's all a part of the process.

Zeph.
May 16th, 2010, 06:00 AM
I want to see all the new pokemon, moves etc before the games get released. I won't look at any guides though - I like figuring things out for the first time, not knowing what pokemon will appear where :)

Cherrim
May 18th, 2010, 05:38 AM
I'm not 100% sure how I'll be experiencing the game yet. :O

Right now, I'm thinking I'll probably import the Japanese version... and this will be the very first time I'll play a Pokémon game all the way through in Japanese. (Assuming I, you know, can get through it since there's no kanji which throws me off. XD) So it'll be an interesting experience regardless, if I do this, because I'll have to get used to attack/item names in Japanese. But aside from that, it should be pretty typical.

At any rate, whenever I play a new game (not even just Pokémon), I'll keep up with anything and everything I hear about up until... maybe a month before the release date when I totally shut down and stop paying attention. Then I play through the game on my own, with no outside help. I'll do the same with Black, whether I play it in English or Japanese. :)

Though I will probably skim the new Pokémon real quick when they're finally leaked, just to check if Cherrim or any of my other favourites get an evolution of sorts. u_u

Conor
May 18th, 2010, 05:57 AM
I won't be able to resist checking out all the new pokemon before I get it but I don't wanna know all the ins and out of the game, when I get my hands on it I'll be searchin' for every nook n cranny before I resort to the internet, checkin' every house, catching every pokemon, the lot ;D